the bad rap: 4 unnecessary and undeserving villains of the black community

by The Champ on July 13, 2009 · 316 comments

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tyra

“…and fake b*tches like beyonce and tyra banks need not apply”

–seen on a friend of a friend’s facebook profile last weekend, sandwiched somewhere between a “set it off” movie poster and an excessively airbrushed photo of benjamin bratt.

while we’ve already documented the peculiar feelings born from the idea 0f beyonce, the animus many hold towards tyra banks seems to be just as intense, and i’ve never really understood it.

although her tendency to store perished placental mammals on her head is a bit unnerving, she’s always struck me as altruistic, genuine, sincere, and blessed with such unbelievably spectacular boobage that i’ve actually individually named her breasts “genuine” and “sincere“…definitely not a person worthy of such miscellaneous hate.

thinking about tyra made me think of a few other things wrongly vilified by many in our community, and to further our commitment to crime fighting, i’ve decided to name three more.

black republicans

although a sizable percentage of them have less soul than pro-wings, i can’t fault the colored conservatives too much because their mere existence is proof that we’re not a monolithic mass of single-minded men and women. sure, we all love fried chicken, warm weather, and justin slayer, but thats where our blanket similarities end.

i can’t automatically discredit and discount someone who shares my complexion but disagrees with my views about taxes, capital punishment, and the reasoning behind affirmative action as long as they asses voted for obama

broken windows movie download kim kardashian

being suffocated with news about the homeless woman’s kim kardashian for the last week has made me much more appreciative of the real thing. so what if she has a thing for athletic looking black men with earning potential? so does michelle obama. and your mom.

as long as she continues to make laughably lethargic sex tapes instead of murking them in their sleep, she’s cool with me.

herpes

time bandits online download

tomorrow, somewhere between two and three thousand different people will probably read this entry. if the cdc’s stats are correct, twelve to sixteen hundred of them will have some form of herpes. although i’ll probably give their nasty asses their own seating section at the vsb bbq, i can’t continue to place the herp on the same mental mating monster list as the monster if half of the vsb-er’s have that sh*t. plus, with treatment and sh*t you can still ride horses, and who doesn’t love a nice horse?

diddy

along with paul mooney, ron artest, and my dad, diddy baron cohen makes the cut as the most entertaining black men in america, and the main reason why i can’t take him as seriously as many others seem to

is that i dont believe he takes himself seriously either.

the worlds a better place with diddy and diddy’s teeth in it.

i’m sure i’m missing a few. any additions?

—the champ

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1 overit July 13, 2009 at 12:27 am

another reasons hoodrats shouldn’t have FB accounts, profile names like “Candace “LetMeUpgradeYou” Williams and “Lamont “TymeToTurnItUpANotch” Jones.

Why???

I would add Britney. Now, I rarely get worked up re: anything a celeb does (except Mariah and her Kello Kitty room/guitar/pajamas/microphone/drapes/lamp/toothbrush ALLINONEVIDEO) but I really don’t understand the Britney hate. I have heard super long rants on everything from her parenting to her post concert snack choice, I mean dang! Who really cares all that much? I get more annoyed with Mariah Carey flying her dogs by private jet (I wanna sic Bono on her) than Britney’s….ways. I feel sorry for her if anything.

That’s all I have to say for now, night night smart owls:)

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2 Nicki Sunshine July 13, 2009 at 7:29 am

@overit, Mariah makes me itch.

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3 V Renee July 13, 2009 at 8:55 am

@overit,

I have to agree with you on Britney. People didn’t understand why she was breaking down, when it was extra clear why she was.

Thank goodness for her daddy. He came in and shut sh*t down.

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4 AngelicNastyness July 13, 2009 at 9:43 am

A licking of the lips and lustful sigh for JUSTIN SLAYER. . .
that is all for now. back to work

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5 8th Wonder July 13, 2009 at 9:50 am

@AngelicNastyness,

Yes. Jesus.

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6 miss t-lee July 13, 2009 at 9:52 am

@AngelicNastyness,
Yes ma’am.

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7 klysha July 13, 2009 at 10:16 am

@AngelicNastyness, ummm who is Justin Slayer??

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8 miss t-lee July 13, 2009 at 10:20 am

@klysha,
Wait til you get home and google.
Seriously.

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9 The Lioness July 13, 2009 at 9:09 pm

@miss t-lee, Just hopped in to co-sign on Justin Slayer. In the past, I would have said Mr. Marcus but I met him in person and he came up to my navel.

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10 The Champ July 13, 2009 at 10:11 am

@overit,

“another reasons hoodrats shouldn’t have FB accounts, profile names like “Candace “LetMeUpgradeYou” Williams and “Lamont “TymeToTurnItUpANotch” Jones.”

says the person who has “reupandoverit” as their middle name on facebook

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11 overit? July 13, 2009 at 1:20 pm

@The Champ, lol, please. IF I were doing Wire nicknames, I’d def be “Z don’tplaythoseawaygames.

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12 The Champ July 13, 2009 at 2:32 pm

@overit?,

i’d go with “40degreeday”

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13 overit? July 13, 2009 at 4:07 pm

@The Champ, lol, that prob would’ve been in my top 5.

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14 Stuff Ghetto People Like July 13, 2009 at 12:38 am

Vanilla Ice: He’s done no worse than the next guy (Rick Ross) at making up who he really was and covering up his past to get over. Besides “Ice Ice Baby” was rocked to by everyone before the story broke. He didn’t exactly wreck Hip-Hop.

Kobe: Decided to beat everyone else to mentioning him because he’s treated like the guy who invented AIDS-infested nukes and aimed them all at Africa. People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones IMO. Sure he’s said things he shouldn’t have (plenty), married a non-Black woman (at least she ain’t a 2520), and dared to go after the altar of a canonized player (himself noways a saint IMO), but the man’s done feats on the court that we are here to remember right now and tell about for years to come, especially when we start up with the Michael Jackson-esque revisionism when he dies.

Jagermeister: Dammit, people, expand your horizons and your minds!! It’s like black licorice, only it gets you nice. Ninjas were sipping on cough syrup and dare to turn their noses up at something meant to be drank that tastes exactly like it (OK, I’m not helping my case, but still)….

More later to be sure, I just had to compete for first comment on this post (Damn you, overit! Oh well, #2 will do).

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15 Nola Darling July 13, 2009 at 12:46 am

@Stuff Ghetto People Like,

Black liquorice ( pun intended) is gross. Drop by around halloween and you can also have my Good & Plenty candies (no pun/double entendre /alternate meaning intended) because those are equally as gross to me.

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16 N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall.... July 13, 2009 at 9:54 am

@Nola Darling,

Who doesn’t like Good & Plenty candy? it’s called good AND plenty….what’s not to like….

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17 blackberry molasses July 13, 2009 at 10:51 am

@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….,

Speeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

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18 miss t-lee July 13, 2009 at 10:53 am

@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….,
I’d prefer my candy not to taste like dirt and tragic failure.

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19 blackberry molasses July 13, 2009 at 10:58 am

@miss t-lee and KindredSmile,

accurate assessments of the gastronomic abomination that is Good ‘n Plenty. What a misnomer that is. YECH!

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20 N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall.... July 13, 2009 at 11:01 am

ok

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21 N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall.... July 13, 2009 at 11:04 am

@miss t-lee,
ok, so i guess the name Good & Plenty is basically a jedi mind trick?

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22 miss t-lee July 13, 2009 at 11:11 am

@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall…. ,
“ok, so i guess the name Good & Plenty is basically a jedi mind trick?”

It’s good & plenty nasty…that’s all I know…lol

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23 The Champ July 13, 2009 at 2:36 pm

@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….,

true story: my nephew manages a cvs, and told me that good and plentys are so “unsought” that they were the only item in the entire store to have dust on them. lucky, those sh*ts never go stale, so all he did was wipe the dust off the packs and restock em

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24 N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall.... July 13, 2009 at 3:13 pm

@The Champ,
lol @ your nephew. it’s b/c i’ve never actually tasted good & plenty. i just figured it had to be good with a name like that…kinda like smuckers

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25 Kindred Smile July 13, 2009 at 10:52 am

@Nola Darling, I hate them. They taste like shoe polish and despair.

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26 An Island July 13, 2009 at 1:44 pm

@Kindred Smile

LMBAO!

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27 Cheekie July 13, 2009 at 2:04 pm

@Nola Darling,

UGH. HATE Black licorice. My mama loves that stuff and she never has to worry about me eating any of it. It is the epitome of failure in regards to candy. Candy is supposed to make the kids happy, not curl into a ball and cry.

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28 miss t-lee July 13, 2009 at 2:15 pm

@Cheekie,
LOL!!! It’s funny, my sister loves black licorice, when we were kids we used to give her all the black jellybeans because otherwise they were getting thrown away…lol

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29 Leila July 13, 2009 at 1:27 am

@Stuff Ghetto People Like, I’ve never seen so many guys get so worked up about someone they hated as much as Kobe. He can be selfish and arrogant, but which NBA player isn’t….

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30 Saule Wright July 13, 2009 at 1:55 am

@Stuff Ghetto People Like,

Jagermeister…goodness. This stuff right here. I was first exposed to it in a drink called Liquid Cocaine. Just as the name implies…it’s no joke.

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31 Dante_Alexander July 13, 2009 at 9:01 am

@Saule Wright,

Jager, 151 and Goldschlager?

I too, have drank from the cup of Cocaine. And it was good. tasted like a disgustingly cold piece of Big Red gum. Then I woke up the next Tuesday.

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32 blackberry molasses July 13, 2009 at 9:48 am

@Dante_Alexander,

I’ll take a Mind Eraser for $400, Alex.

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33 N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall.... July 13, 2009 at 9:52 am

@Dante_Alexander,
wow, that sounds a little dangerousinteresting. I may have to check that out….

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34 Saule Wright July 13, 2009 at 1:01 pm

@Dante_Alexander,

yep, just like I remember it.

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35 This Just In...Like Beyonce..Like Trinaaaaaaahhh July 13, 2009 at 9:48 am

@Saule Wright,

24th birthday + 6 or 7 shots of Liquid Cocaine = 1 full 24 hour hangover…..
therefore,
Liquid Cocaine = Death in a glass

I am NOT a fan.

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36 pgh muse July 13, 2009 at 1:25 pm

@This Just In…Like Beyonce..Like Trinaaaaaaahhh,

me neither. I’ve never had one… but just reading the ingredients makes me scared.

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37 V Renee July 13, 2009 at 11:15 am

@Saule Wright,

This is slightly off subject, but we made up a drink that we called Sweet Misery. It was a mixutre of Coke, 151 and Everclear. It was definitely a mind eraser.

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38 Saule Wright July 13, 2009 at 1:00 pm

@V Renee,

Lemme investigate…

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39 The BDay GEM July 13, 2009 at 11:35 am

@Saule Wright,

i don’t even remember what liquid cocaine tastes like. but i do remember my friend offering me a couple shots. what a nite!

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40 Saule Wright July 13, 2009 at 1:00 pm

@The BDay GEM,

Exactly….it’s not about the taste….

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41 miss t-lee July 13, 2009 at 8:14 am

@Stuff Ghetto People Like,
“Jagermeister: Dammit, people, expand your horizons and your minds!! It’s like black licorice, only it gets you nice”

This ish is nasty.
Good look with that.
That is all.

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42 blackberry molasses July 13, 2009 at 9:47 am

@miss t-lee,
co-FRIGGIN-sign.

I’ve never thrown up from being overly intoxicated, but I did gag, spit and dry heave after my first and ONLY Jagerbomb. No bueno.

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43 miss t-lee July 13, 2009 at 9:51 am

@blackberry molasses,
Yep…I don’t even eat licorice candy, so why would I wanna drink something that tastes exactly like it?
Dry heave is right…

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44 The Champ July 13, 2009 at 10:17 am

@blackberry molasses,

maybe i’m just a lush, but to me theres no discernible different between jagerbombs and dad’s root beer.

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45 blackberry molasses July 13, 2009 at 10:41 am

@The Champ,

methinks its time to refine your palate.

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46 N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall.... July 13, 2009 at 10:24 am

@blackberry molasses,

the first time i had a jager shot was in college, and i had no problem with the taste. then again, that’s probably b/c i was already wasted… but i have had it again, and when cold, the shot goes down smoother than some other liquors. at least for me it does.

@Champ,
it does kinda taste like a really strong root beer. kinda has the same after taste….

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47 N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall.... July 13, 2009 at 10:45 am

@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….,

on second thought, i was on my third drink the other time i had it…which is why i thought it was smooth…everything goes down smoother when you’re already drunk….

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48 miss t-lee July 13, 2009 at 10:48 am

@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….,
“everything goes down smoother when you’re already drunk….”

Exactly. This is why most people are convinced that Jager is good…they are already drunk when they are drinking that ish…lol

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49 Stuff Ghetto People Like July 13, 2009 at 9:59 am

@miss t-lee (and Nola darling for that matter), I do have to keep in mind how girls are about the taste of drinks (an American girl who appreciates brew is hard to find)…that’s why all the froo-froo stuff is aimed at y’all.

Strip away the syrups and puckers and soders and stuff…those drinks tastes like cold death with a screwface to match (yes, even Hennessy). Real talk, if I was to focus on the taste of hard liks, everything from gin to Hpnotiq is absolutely vile.

A chilled shot or two of Jager goes down smooth and has a pleasantly sweet and mildly spicy aftertaste.

And while Black folks are quick to say Jager is strictly for 2520s, it was an Ethiopian chick that put me on to it!

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50 blackberry molasses July 13, 2009 at 10:10 am

@Stuff Ghetto People Like,
I’m a chick who takes her liquor straight or mixes the most amount of potent shyt together as she can. Eff the taste, I’ve got a goal when I drink.

If I want to enjoy the taste of an alcoholic beverage, I’m drinking wine. Frou-frou drinks need not apply. Unless its Fat Tuesday’s 190 Octane Slushie. Grain alcohol+ whatever else they got in there= EXTREMELY HAPPY BBMo.

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51 Stuff Ghetto People Like July 13, 2009 at 11:52 am

@blackberry molasses,

If I want to enjoy the taste of an alcoholic beverage, I’m drinking wine.

It’s one thing if you mean white zinfandel or sangria….but your average dry wine is beyond vile. There’s nothing there worth tasting, it’s just a bitter *ss glass of tannins. Pure swill right up there with Lake Pontchartrain…

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52 blackberry molasses July 13, 2009 at 1:19 pm

@Stuff Ghetto People Like,

to each their own. I actually DO enjoy the taste of a delicious pinot gris or this argentinian cabernet someone put me on to recently. There are actually a myriad of complex flavors in a *good* wine that delight the palate. But your palate has to be trained. Not only that, but 60% of taste is actually smell, so if you can’t smell shyt, you won’t be able to taste shyt.
Moreover, not all wines are “dry”… I would say the vast majority have some residual sweetness, if that’s what you are looking for. Try a German Riesling or a Sauternes. Or h3ll a nice fortified wine like port. Get you good and DONE and tastes yummo.

White Zinfandel is the piss of wines (unless its from.. no, its still the piss of wines). Sangria isn’t wine. It is a wine based cocktail.

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53 Stuff Ghetto People Like July 13, 2009 at 3:06 pm

@blackberry molasses,
Yeah, I’m far from a wine guy as of yet. Dry wines are only worth it if that’s what I’m offered, because hey, why not get nice? But if I’m buying, it’s gotta be at least semi-sweet. Hence my preference for white zinfandel, Manischewitz (LOL@ the screwfaces made when people read this word!), Carlo Rossi (that’s the “sangria” I was referring to) and such…

I know the wine snob would see what I would buy and figure I may as well drink from a box.

I’ll go after what you noted…though “fortified” makes me think of Night Train and Thunderbird (definitely frightening prospect).

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54 blackberry molasses July 13, 2009 at 3:55 pm

get with the wine program. its a certified panty-dropper. I’m not ashamed to admit that game has been run on me through the use of a good bottle.

And ‘wine drunk’ is the best kind of drunk IMO. Everything is beautiful and feels delicious–you are the life of the party. And, (unless you had champagne or didn’t stick with one kind of alcohol) in the morning you just feel deeply rested.

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55 miss t-lee July 13, 2009 at 10:13 am

@Stuff Ghetto People Like,
” I do have to keep in mind how girls are about the taste of drinks (an American girl who appreciates brew is hard to find)…that’s why all the froo-froo stuff is aimed at y’all.”

Trust me, I know! I like my liquor to not taste like liquor. I need it to sneak up on me which is why I drink what I drink…lol My drink of choice, Mexican Martini made with Herradura silver tequila.

Have you seen those Jager coolers? I was at a 2520 party and they had one of those. My thought? Ya’ll doing too dayum much up in here.

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56 Stuff Ghetto People Like July 13, 2009 at 12:21 pm

@miss t-lee, drinking is probably the only arena where we can learn a lot from 2520s. Not saying we gotta overdo it like frat parties, but being up on varieties of stuff only helps more than harms….

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57 overit July 13, 2009 at 9:25 am

@Stuff Ghetto People Like, Damn you, overit! Oh well, #2 will do.

loll, my bad!

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58 K to the... July 13, 2009 at 10:05 am

@Stuff Ghetto People Like,

Jagermeister: Dammit, people, expand your horizons and your minds!! It’s like black licorice, only it gets you nice. Ninjas were sipping on cough syrup and dare to turn their noses up at something meant to be drank that tastes exactly like it (OK, I’m not helping my case, but still)….

That sh!t’s disgusting! I don’t enjoy eating black licorice, so I d@mn sure didn’t enjoy drinking it! Even though I was already inebriated. lol

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59 The Champ July 13, 2009 at 10:13 am

@Stuff Ghetto People Like,

if i wasnt already convinced that kobe was nicolae carpathia, i’d agree with you.

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60 OrangeStar616 July 13, 2009 at 10:29 am

@Stuff Ghetto People Like,

I um just wanted to add a better example would have been NWA ..folk act like Rick Ross the first dude to not exactly live the life he raps about LOL…So not the case and examples can be found all thru-out hip hop!!!

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61 puff July 13, 2009 at 12:42 am

supahead – ahem, i mean karrine steffans.

i may or may not change my mind after i meet her tomorrow, but having read her book, i really don’t think she deserves all the shi*t she gets. yes she “exploited” the celebrities she slept with for money, but who in hollywood hasn’t stepped on someone to get where they are today? after all she’s been through, i kinda respect her hustle.

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62 Brandon St. Randy July 13, 2009 at 12:49 am

@puff, Can you really respect that particular hustle though? Isn’t that part of our problem? We excuse every hustle as long as it makes a little cheese? Whore yourself out, tell kids to sell dope, snitch and then tell kids not to snitch? We’d do way better as a people if we learned to knock the hustle

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63 puff July 13, 2009 at 1:10 am

@Brandon St. Randy,

i respect it insofar as i respect, for example, jay-z’s hustle: both of them did morally questionable things (her: sleeping with men to support herself and her son, him: selling dope to make his way out of the hood and onto the charts) that enabled them to escape becoming statistics. defying a system that’s pretty much set up to make you fail is something i respect; the way they went about it, not so much. but then again, i’ve never been in the same position as they have, so i don’t feel like i really have the right to judge.

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64 Brandon St. Randy July 13, 2009 at 1:44 am

@puff, I question this whole set up to make you fail concept. Jay-Z’s sister has a square middle class job. There was nothing stopping Superhead from doing anything she wanted to do. People just make choices. Sure, Jay’s making a mint. What about all them dumb ass kids in jail who took “Friend or Foe” too seriously? And all them girls who just ended up pregnant and sidelined by, oh, say, Cassidy or Philly’s Most Wanted?

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65 Liz July 13, 2009 at 1:47 am

@Brandon St. Randy, ….or Weezy, even?

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66 puff July 13, 2009 at 9:13 am

@Brandon St. Randy,
i don’t think there being a black middle class automatically means that everyone can make it there… if that was the case, then there wouldn’t be people in jail/knocked by weezy f. baby. it sucks, and i wish it weren’t the case, but for some people i guess they just make the choices that, at the time, seem to make the most sense to them.

with supahead, the fact that she was sexually abused as a child i guess played a role in the choices that she made as an adult… not saying that every person who is molested goes on to be a video vixen, i’m just saying the odds were stacked against her from jump.

like i said before, i’m not going to hate on someone for being successful even if the way they went about it isn’t something i personally admire, it’s just not my style. i’ll just choose my role models elsewhere.

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67 Nicki Sunshine July 13, 2009 at 7:32 am

@Brandon St. Randy, co-signing.

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68 Liz July 13, 2009 at 1:34 am

@puff, i think I agree with you. On some level I sometimes think she is a lot smarter than people give her credit for, or even more than you might see versus what you hear about her. But she snapped on me on twitter once, and I lost all respect for her. She’s quick to snap on people it seems.

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69 Dante_Alexander July 13, 2009 at 9:13 am

@Liz,

I knew a woman like Supahead. She was a prostitute.

So I guess you’re no knocking THAT hustle, either?

Okelly Dokelly then…

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70 blackberry molasses July 13, 2009 at 9:53 am

@Dante_Alexander,

I heart you for the use of okelly dokelly. I tought I was the only one.

and as far as her being quick to snap on folks, its because she’s (like my e-chile overitey) suggested completely and utterly in a state of “defense”. All the freaking time. She expects people to attack her, and she probably lives by the “the best defense is a good offense” motto. Living your life defending a lifestyle and hustle that you know society has deemed shady will make you snippy.

I don’t even want to know what kind of mockery her son goes through on the daily. That kid probably lives in two places… with his mom and with their therapist.

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71 The Champ July 13, 2009 at 10:22 am

@Dante_Alexander,

“I knew a woman like Supahead. She was a prostitute.

So I guess you’re no knocking THAT hustle, either?”

LOL

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72 Liz July 13, 2009 at 12:09 pm

@Dante_Alexander, apples and oranges, and i never said i cant knock her hustle. i think i said shes a lot smarter than most people give her credit for.

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73 Dante_Alexander July 13, 2009 at 3:46 pm

@Liz,

I’d never call her stupid.

Slut, skank, whore, tramp, skeeo, skeezer, busto… these are words I’d use.

Keep in mind I love ALL of these nouns/adjectives in terms of my sometimes self destructive personal choices in women.

#youknowyouareahoodratwhen “You’ve ever used the phrase ‘Fook it girl, I needed the money’ when telling your homegirl about your last sexual encounter. Let alone your last… Hell, ALL of em.

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74 overit July 13, 2009 at 9:29 am

@puff, ahh, the ‘ho shyt and mo shyt” debate. tis a classic round these parts.

my thing is, whether or not she’s making money, i am sure a good chunk of that goes to a therapist. howe shyt is really not the business. i’ve only seen her speak once, and what i didn’t like about that was she never once said it wasn’t right, or even illustrate how men exploit weakened women. she was too busy being defensive. i understand being defensive, but if she had laid out the reasons that led to her choices: the abuse, esteem issues, etc so that many someone in the room working thruogh the same issues could relate, i’d be happy. no, she sat there and was on defense the whole time.

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75 The Champ July 13, 2009 at 10:25 am

@overit,

“howe shyt is really not the business.”

btw, this is also chapter seven in 8th wonder’s upcoming autobiography, “things ive learned through trail and error”

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76 blackberry molasses July 13, 2009 at 10:43 am

@The Champ,
*shots fired*

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77 8th Wonder July 13, 2009 at 1:33 pm

@The Champ,

I’m unfamiliar with TRAIL and error…what is it exactly?

Chapter 8 in my upcoming autoB is entitled, “The Humpty Dance-Should EVERYTHING on his body be the size of an egg?: My run-ins with the Chump”.

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78 blackberry molasses July 13, 2009 at 1:38 pm

@8th Wonder,

I call this battle in favor of Aif Wondra.

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79 The Champ July 13, 2009 at 2:38 pm

me too actually. she won this round. good job and sh*t

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80 overit? July 13, 2009 at 4:20 pm

@8th Wonder, I’m unfamiliar with TRAIL and error…what is it exactly?

LMAO. My girl.

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81 Brandon St. Randy July 13, 2009 at 12:59 am

Fruits and vegetables
Like real vegetables, not flavored carbonated drinks. Amazing how you people love every flavor of watermelon strawberry Mystic but wouldn’t eat a string bean not flavored with lard to save your life. Smoking blackberry cloves but hate tomatoes.

Snitching
I mean your neighborhood isn’t dangerous enough without a wall of silence to protect people that kill other black people, destroy the community’s economic interests, and generally wear down the quality of life so far that gay white gentrifiers can come in and buy up houses for next to nothing? Cause trust me, they snitching. Calling the gang force hotline every time they see a ni**a in a blue shirt walking a pit bull. And in three years, when your ass is priced out of the neighborhood, they’ll be laughing their snitch asses to the bank when they flip that house for $300k in profit.

Michale Steele
Naw, just kidding, but y’all started it with the Black Republican thing. That’s one of the three other blacks I honestly would not stand in the way of them being sold back into slavery. Ray-J and Chance, you boys have fun picking sugar cane.

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82 Stuff Ghetto People Like July 13, 2009 at 2:28 am

@Brandon St. Randy, I was gonna touch on snitching, but left it alone. It’s one thing to have issue with a criminal ratting out his partner in crime…but to have a problem with law abiding and innocent citizens telling the boys about crime that’s wrecking their town with the power of a bull (no one will get that reference) is what makes the Black community its own poison. As if they’re really doing something honorable by acting all shook in their homes.

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83 Nicki Sunshine July 13, 2009 at 7:40 am

@Stuff Ghetto People Like, I agree.

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84 Dante_Alexander July 13, 2009 at 9:15 am

@Stuff Ghetto People Like,

“It is forbidden to send a ninja to prison if you’ve been in it along with him and then snitch and become hidden” — Obie Trice

Thus ends the first (and last) time I quote the man they call Obie.

Cam wouldn’t snitch on a serial killer living next door.

Fookin idiot.

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85 Stuff Ghetto People Like July 13, 2009 at 10:20 am

@Dante_Alexander, that’s the thing though, tipping the boys about the serial killer living next door or someone who raped your sister isn’t snitching, it’s doing the right thing.

There’s a difference between that and what I see Obie means, e.g. some dude selling out his accomplice for less jail time or a jilted lover of a drug dealer mad because he didn’t buy her a $500 bag. That’s where these idiot hood and rap nookas get it twisted as they try to terrorize the community into a culture of letting every Tom, Dick, and Harry get away with foul crimes.

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86 The Champ July 13, 2009 at 10:30 am

@Dante_Alexander,

Cam wouldn’t snitch on a serial killer living next door.

when i heard him say that, i was secretly hoping that the cameraman would have peed in his face.

he’s a f*cking assclown, and i don’t even know what an assclown is, other than the fact that cam’ron is one

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87 miss t-lee July 13, 2009 at 10:37 am

@The Champ,
I watched that episode of 60 minutes when he said that…I was like Florida Evans when she threw that punch bowl.

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88 Chas July 13, 2009 at 12:46 pm

@The Champ, i heard he later said he was wrong for saying that. altho i didn’t actually hear it, i read it so i could be lying.

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89 Humble_One July 13, 2009 at 8:56 am

@Brandon St. Randy,

I agree with you on the snitching thing. People don’t even know what snitching is anymore. For example, if you are outside of MY HOUSE disturbing me and mines with your customers and I call the police I am not snitching. I am a civilian and what you do should have no bearing on me. I use to hustle and I know the rules. Dudes don’t know the difference b/w snitching and being responsible for your community.

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90 K to the... July 13, 2009 at 10:14 am

@Brandon St. Randy,

‘Bout time some recognize the true gangsta of vegetables!!! Chuuch!

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91 Nola Darling July 13, 2009 at 1:12 am

Enunciation – try getting your point across eloquently to a group of black folks ( read:ninja’s). The only question you’ll get in the Q & A portion is “Where you from?” and/or “Why you sound white?”

Education – reading, spelling, math, and all of the disciplines under the sun. I am saddened by a cashier that is stuck like chuck when the register isn’t working and they’d rather take 5 minutes to locate a calculator than do the math in their head. I am also saddened by kiddies who seem to have the metric system down thanks to gucci man and oj the juiceman but can’t do long division.

Saving money – Fools don’t get pensions and 401k’s don’t grow on trees. If you plan on getting old or at least being buried in something other than a shoebox you’d better save some dough. Living paycheck to paycheck or hustle to hustle is the anti-cute and you’d better have some money in a bank or mattress to see you through hard times and old age. We’d rather spend our money on rims, chains, and a fresh fit though.

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92 chaoticdiva July 13, 2009 at 1:41 am

@Nola Darling,

Agreed. On all three.

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93 WestIndianArchie July 13, 2009 at 7:26 am

@Nola Darling,

Yeah, you’d be sitting pretty if you had all your money in a 401K right now……oh wait

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94 Dante_Alexander July 13, 2009 at 9:16 am

@WestIndianArchie,

403(b) For the Win. Especially if your company has a matching program…

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95 The Champ July 13, 2009 at 10:33 am

@Dante_Alexander,

finding out that your company has a matching program is the adult equivalent of getting a h*nd job for the first time.

***btw, this made much more sense in my head. i probably should have kept in there***

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96 Dante_Alexander July 13, 2009 at 11:02 am

@The Champ,

Oddly, I knew EXACTLY what you meant, though.

It’s like, I could do this myself, and it’d be great… but I can get somebody to do this WITH/FOR me? Jeebus Cripes, that’s OUTSTANDING news!

I worked at the Y, and the matching program was 12% of my gross salary. That was not just a hand job in the Navigator outside the Manoogian Mansion, it was a double-handed super astroglide special during a movie with gratuitous chex scenes. Swedish.

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97 A Plus July 13, 2009 at 11:35 am

@The Champ, and you know there were fools in my company that wouldn’t participate! i’m like you idgit, it’s FREE MONEY!!!!

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98 The Champ July 13, 2009 at 2:41 pm

@The Champ,

That was not just a hand job in the Navigator outside the Manoogian Mansion, it was a double-handed super astroglide special during a movie with gratuitous chex scenes.

ummm…thanks for the imagery.

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99 pgh muse July 13, 2009 at 9:17 am

@WestIndianArchie, lmao.. just mean about the 401ks!

What goes down is bound to come back up. Now seems to be a good time to buy if you ask me. On the other hand – if there are folks out there who had pension funds that where absorbed by bankrupt corps – that’s straight BULLshyt.

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100 Nicki Sunshine July 13, 2009 at 7:40 am

@Nola Darling, CHECK!

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101 nia July 13, 2009 at 1:22 am

Tyler Perry.

That is all.

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102 Liz July 13, 2009 at 1:32 am

@nia, so you think Tyler Perry doesn’t get the respect he deserves?

I think he isn’t vilified enough. but i might be swayed in the other direction, after all he is helping fund my new favorite movie, Precious.

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103 overit? July 13, 2009 at 1:31 pm

@Liz, is Precious really your new favorite movie? I was in a book club a few years back, and we had to read Push by Saphire, the book its based on. TRAUMA! I am still traumatized, and I gave away the book.

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104 blackberry molasses July 13, 2009 at 2:47 pm

@overit?,
Were you in my book club? I ran a book club for a group of teens in SW philly and we read Push. It was like a train wreck. So ugly but couldn’t put it down.

TP is making a movie out of this? I wonder how he’s going to handle it. *thinks for a moment* I’se scurred.

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105 Dante_Alexander July 13, 2009 at 9:23 am

@nia,

Tyler Perry is another “Respect his hustle” thing, and I think it’s a crock.

All his movies are, in my humblest opinion, hot garbage on a roadkill platter, served with a side of black licorice.

The reason people enjoy his movies? We’re fooked up as a people. Laughing at our shortcomings and calling it good cinema when it has crappy dialogue, terrible actors (at least in supporting roles) and what not is fookin stupid. Again, in my most humble opinion.

There’s a reason why only the ninjas really dug the play “Don’t tell momma I’m pregnant by a thug, cuz that woman art loosed herself!” C’mon now…

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106 Chas July 13, 2009 at 12:50 pm

@Dante_Alexander,
“The reason people enjoy his movies? We’re fooked up as a people. Laughing at our shortcomings and calling it good cinema when it has crappy dialogue, terrible actors (at least in supporting roles) and what not is fookin stupid. ”

*stands up and starts slow clap*

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107 Liz July 13, 2009 at 1:29 am

i LOOOOVE tyra. even way before she was ANTM tyra or tyra show tyra. always did, always will, even if sometimes i catch a glimpse of tyra when she’s “off” and she looks a lil evil or snide. i might be too tho, if i were as badd as her. shoot.

diddy, i seriously think dude is really insecure but can’t wallow in it because he has goals and a show to keep up. ever since i started following him on twitter i have deduced that he (like some other celebs) just needs constant validation. it’s quite funny how this works, actually.

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108 Dante_Alexander July 13, 2009 at 9:25 am

@Liz,

You KNOW he’s insecure. Somebody told him he had a weak chin, so he grew a goatee.

Tuh. The nerve.

I despise Diddy, but it is what it is. He’s just the Baarry Gordy for the new millennium, minus the stones to dangle folks out of windows and kill first born children.

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109 Suga&Spice July 13, 2009 at 10:21 am

@Liz, It is that same constant need for validation that drives most of them to become so successful at their craft/profession.

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110 Liz July 13, 2009 at 12:08 pm

@Suga&Spice, agreed.

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111 Cheekie July 13, 2009 at 11:27 am

@Liz,

I think the thing with Tyrais that she tries a little too hard to be “down”. Like she extra-emphasizes it too much to actually be believable. And she has the uncanny ability to make every single interview about herself. I was cracking up when she gave Miley Cyrus a picture of herself when she was a teen.

The reason I can’t be truly mad at her, though is because when she’s crazy…she’s CRAZY. And it’s hilarious.

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112 Liz July 13, 2009 at 12:07 pm

@Cheekie, well i def agree Tyra is a big ole cornball. I can’t knock her hustle tho, and i love her for it.

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113 overit? July 13, 2009 at 1:32 pm

@Liz, co-sign, I love her too, always have.

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114 chaoticdiva July 13, 2009 at 1:50 am

Non-rap/R&B. There are a lot of great songs/artists that don’t fall under this genre that are listenable. For instance, Sara Bareilles. Soulful, plays piano, and is considered pop. I hate when my roommate will look at me for listening to “non-black” music like I’m an alien or a traitor or something.

Mixed Clubs Just because white people go there doesn’t make it a bad club.

Latinos. I have heard so many black folks say that “blah blah blah, Latinos haven’t struggled like black folks did, because we were once slaves”. Guess they forgot that it was the Portuguese and the Spaniards that raped and enslaved those south of the border. (Slavery didn’t end until 1888 in Brazil, not to mention, they’re 88% black in population. Know your history). Plus, it is possible to be Black and Latino (*cough cough*).

Tea. Dude, its a cure-all.

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115 Nicki Sunshine July 13, 2009 at 7:42 am

@chaoticdiva, AMEN. I feel you on the music and on the mixed clubs… me and my beau ended up at this Latino club in Chicago (albeit by mistake) but he b&tched A LOT.. talm’bout (wrck: MIK), “where are all the black people we saw before?” I wanted to knock him down the stairs.

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116 Legendary Dash July 13, 2009 at 9:24 am

@chaoticdiva,

Maybe these are not Southern negros. Where I am from tea is often the beverage of choice, even over red, grape, and the greatest KoolAid flavor of all, green.

I don’t like mixed clubs either. I am not attracted to snowbunnies, and reverse vitiligo sisters are the anti-fine. Plus the only club fights I have ever gotten into, and the worst dancefloor experiences I have ever had in my life occurred at mixed joints. The music sucks as well. I swear they will play about 30 remixes of Lil Wayne’s “Lollipop”. The original version sucked enough.

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117 klysha July 13, 2009 at 10:32 am

@Legendary Dash, in the south Sweet Tea (Iced) is the beverage of choice….they aren’t really up on hot tea down there…trust me I was once one of them

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118 Legendary Dash July 13, 2009 at 11:47 am

@klysha, I grew up drinking sassafras, green, and chamomile tea.

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119 The Champ July 13, 2009 at 10:39 am

@Legendary Dash,

lol, you can always tell a mixed club by the dj, who all seemingly have the exact same “what a 26 year old white woman who exclusively dates black men would listen to in her scion” go-to playlist.

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120 overit? July 13, 2009 at 1:34 pm

@The Champ, which is mostly Lil Wayne, lol.

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121 Chas July 13, 2009 at 12:59 pm

@Legendary Dash, two of my best club going experiences were in mixed clubs. better music than most black ones that still believe the gateway to southern music begins with “knuck if you buck” and ends with “lean wit it, rock wit it.” however, my mixed clubs were in vegas, so i really don’t know about regular ones.

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122 Legendary Dash July 13, 2009 at 5:29 pm

@Chas,

I haven’t heard “Knuck if you Buck” and “Lean Wit it Rock Wit It”. Florida clubs tend to give you more Island music and Miami and Tampa flavor.

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123 flamboyantchiq July 13, 2009 at 1:24 pm

@Legendary Dash,
thats funny

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124 miss t-lee July 13, 2009 at 10:18 am

@chaoticdiva,
Tea. Dude, its a cure-all.

I love tea. But then, again…I have to. :)

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125 Cheekie July 13, 2009 at 11:01 am

@chaoticdiva,

“I hate when my roommate will look at me for listening to “non-black” music like I’m an alien or a traitor or something.”

Yeah, I HATE that ish.

I always retort with, “Well, Black folks made every genre of music and the 2520s stole it so in essence, it’s still Black music”. lol

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126 A Plus July 13, 2009 at 11:41 am

@chaoticdiva, co-signing your entire post

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127 Saule Wright July 13, 2009 at 1:57 am

Hip Hop. Yeah, I said it.

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128 Stuff Ghetto People Like July 13, 2009 at 2:32 am

Especially the kind of Hip-Hop you won’t hear on 106 & Park or in the club.

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129 Saule Wright July 13, 2009 at 5:28 am

@Stuff Ghetto People Like,
exactly!

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130 Jamaicangirl July 13, 2009 at 4:31 am

Joe Jackson

I kid I kid, that man should be sentenced to life in jail wearing nothing but mama tina beddazled creations.

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131 The Champ July 13, 2009 at 10:41 am

@Jamaicangirl,

lol, i have something in store for mr. jackson later this week

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132 Cheekie July 13, 2009 at 10:59 am

@Jamaicangirl,

I need him to step off of this earth for saying he wanted to make MJ’s kids the “Jackson 3″. I pray to everything that is holy that his hot morning breath doesn’t even go near those kids.

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133 Beez July 13, 2009 at 4:15 pm

@Cheekie,

That pissed me off to no avail. He needs not be nowhere near those kids with his melted Jack O’ Lantern face. Scouting talent in your own grandkids?

*fumes*

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134 FreckleDiva July 13, 2009 at 7:22 am

Jesse Jackson.

Nuff said.

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135 Legendary Dash July 13, 2009 at 10:02 am

@FreckleDiva,

Joe Jackson:8 out of 9 kids sane. 3 Legendary musical acts. His family made it out of poverty, and Gary Indiana. Jermaine also discovered Switch, which led to hits by both Switch and DeBarge. So 5 legendary musical acts. He is also partly responsible for one of the two good episodes of Goodtimes, the Penny getting burned jawn. Joe Jackson is an underrated father. Sure he whipped his kids behinds, but he is just an old school cat.

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136 The Champ July 13, 2009 at 10:44 am

@Legendary Dash,

lol, after reading “switch” referred to as “legendary”, i’m beginning to question your legendary criteria.

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137 Legendary Dash July 13, 2009 at 11:23 am

@The Champ,

Switch’s argument for legendary status, or at worst cult status:

I Call Your Name

There’ll Never Be

The Best Beat in Town

Calling on All Girls

I Wanna Be Closer

Don’t Take Your Love Away

I Do Love You

Love Over and Over Again

Also I Call Your Name provided the sample necessary to put a rapper from Mobile, Alabama of all places on the map. It also got Polow the Don the session with Usher that produced “Love in This Club”, a song that for a short period replaced Coolio’s “Gangster’s Paradise”, as mixed club DJs favorite song.

PS:They also made sure that taco meat remained in style far into the 80s, and thus ensured that I was conceived.

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138 The Champ July 13, 2009 at 2:50 pm

@Legendary Dash,

i think cult works better. theres nothing wrong with cult. in fact, if i ever get tired of “the champ”, i’d probably change my name to “the cult”

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139 Dom July 13, 2009 at 10:51 am

@Legendary Dash,

Thank you thank you thank you! I got into a huge argument w/ my Grandma and Auntie about this! Joe did what he had to do to survive. If it wasnt for Joe, the world never woulda known Mike.

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140 Legendary Dash July 13, 2009 at 11:44 am

@Dom,

I can’t really blame him for Mike’s issues. He had rats for pets. That was a big red flag. Also a lot of people use the events in the movie as ammo to hate Joe. Similarly to how people use The Temptations movie to hate on David Ruffin, and The Five Heartbeats* movie to hate on the great Flash Turner. A lot of things in that movies did not happen.

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141 The Champ July 13, 2009 at 2:58 pm

@Dom,

If it wasnt for Joe, the world never woulda known Mike

lol, thats like saying, “if it wasn’t for hitler, germany wouldn’t have such a great economy today”

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142 Chas July 13, 2009 at 1:04 pm

@Legendary Dash, climbing thru your kids window with a mask on and scaring the shyt out of them while their sleeping to teach them the value of not leaving their window open at night…which leads to nightmares about being kidnapped sometime thereafter not does not qualify for “just an old school cat.”

That is of course, if that story is really true.

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143 TLC July 13, 2009 at 1:35 pm

@Legendary Dash,

8 out of 9 kids sane? Jermaine has been married four times, has 8 kids…2 of which are by the same woman Randy has 2 children by…so there are children who are siblings and cousins…and another thing…LaToya…no explanation needed….I think that sane count needs to be reevaluated

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144 Dom July 13, 2009 at 2:30 pm

@TLC,

I think Latoya was the 1 crazy sibling, thus 8 out of 9. Then again, I guess its all a matter of personal opinion.

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145 TLC July 13, 2009 at 7:37 pm

@Dom,

Love him….but c’mon you really think Mike was sane?…I am pretty certain he was a season ticket holder at some LA therapists office…or at least he should have been…

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146 Legendary Dash July 13, 2009 at 5:39 pm

@TLC,

Jermaine is just a bit of a man-ho. It does not really make him insane. LaToya’s new-age philosophies sometimes make her come off as kooky, but she has not really shown herself to be legitimately insane. Even though both her and Mike should have been evaluated for that “Say Say Say” video. Having LaToya play Mike’s love interest was very backwoodish to me.

@Chas,

That breaking into the house and scaring his kids into responsibility was very creative.
*adds to parenting playbook*

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147 The Champ July 13, 2009 at 10:45 am

@FreckleDiva,

welcome and sh*t

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148 Shakashawshow July 13, 2009 at 8:08 am

Black Republicans…thank you. All you need to know if you’re not one is that our concerns probably just dont concern you. I still live in the hood and went to Howard, I just dont wanna be double-taxed when I inherit my parents assets which they had to work like slaves to achieve. Reps just make more sense fiscally…socially, they’re idiots but Im not trying to marry a man or have an abortion any time soon, so it doesnt really bother me.

Oh and I love Kim Kardashian…
Justin Slayer’s cool but I hate Wesley Pipes with a passion. Why must he talk through every scene from start to finish? Anybody notice B. Pumper looks like Lloyd Banks? Oops, sidenote…sorry I got distracted and now everybody knows I watch too much smut lol.

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149 miss t-lee July 13, 2009 at 8:18 am

@Shakashawshow,
“Anybody notice B. Pumper looks like Lloyd Banks?”

I think he only slightly resembles Banks. :)

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150 V Renee July 13, 2009 at 8:51 am

@Shakashawshow,

Wesley Pipes aka 2 pistols??? How could you hate him? On second thought, nevermind.

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151 miss t-lee July 13, 2009 at 8:53 am

@V Renee,
*snickering*

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152 Shakashawshow July 13, 2009 at 9:27 am

@V Renee, nah the dude just talks way too much…just irritating. Im focusing on the girl…I dont need to hear him talking about “yeaaaah jsut like that, just like that. You got it, you got it” hes like a porn physical trainer…ill.

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153 pgh muse July 13, 2009 at 9:20 am

@Shakashawshow, Reps just make more sense fiscally

I disagree with this… and would have to write a book to tell you why. I don’t know if i can think that hard this morning. maybe i’ll come back to it. But really, republican fiscal policy is a flawed as they think liberal fiscal policy is.

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154 Shakashawshow July 13, 2009 at 9:25 am

@pgh muse, democratic fiscal policy borders on socialism, which I’m not with. I like all my money in my check or as much as is possible. Do for self. The Dems will have all your money being siphoned off to whoever doesnt feel like working or whoever decides to hop the border and have 18 kids.

Hate me now.

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155 pgh muse July 13, 2009 at 9:35 am

@Shakashawshow, Hate me now.

Hahahaha. I won’t hate u, bruh. Just disagree. Eight years of Bush fiscal policy was an example of deregulated, lasseiz (sp?) faire, republican economics. And the result? This ressecion! The republican machine d*mn near brought the country to it’s knees. The dollar is weak, and all these huge corporations that anchor our economy and way of life as we know needed corporate welfare (or money from the government / socialism) so that we didn’t slide full tilt into a depression. Don’t let ‘em fool u.

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156 Shakashawshow July 13, 2009 at 10:39 am

@pgh muse, totally agree…not a Bushite at all. Just not with all the bleeding heart liberal piss-our-money-away-on-the-lazy sentiment. And for the record (lol) I was with Obama and Id beat Alan Keyes like he stole something if I ever saw him on the street!

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157 T. Troy Stewart July 13, 2009 at 12:30 pm

@pgh muse, the way that some of these 2520s act, everything that we’re currently experiencing started on January 21, 2009.

And let’s not give the poor a dime because one of the best remaining strong industries in America is “The Poor” (and gospel choirs accompanying pop singers.).

If there were no poor people, there would be so many agencies and politicians out of work that it wouldn’t be funny.

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158 blackberry molasses July 13, 2009 at 1:09 pm

@T. Troy Stewart ,
If there were no poor people, there would be so many agencies and politicians out of work that it wouldn’t be funny.

Someone posted this before, but it bears repeating.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/17/AR2009051702053.html

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159 Humble_One July 13, 2009 at 11:01 am

@Shakashawshow,

“The Dems Republicans will have all your money being siphoned off to whoever doesnt feel like working or whoever decides to hop the border and have 18 kids wears a suit, makes more than 250K a year, or individuals h3ll bent at getting money by any means necessary.”

Fixed that for you.

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160 tempsoner July 16, 2009 at 12:43 pm

@Shakashawshow, and your repubs decided to DEREGULATE everything-so dead dogs get credit cards with 20% rates and then the bank that gave the dog the card sells that contract and several others-so they make money off a dogs debt…also repubs wanted this bare bones ship everything out to a foreign country economy-so we are left with service jobs and now yo got grown folk workin in fast food joint as if they real jobs…last repubs convinced all of society that rich ppl really care about trickling down and all that mess meanwhile wages have been froze since the 80′s …this is why credit got so easy to obtain, so I am glad you love the sloppiness the repubs have wrought which includes getting rid of usury laws so yes a dog can get a credit card and theres no regulation on loans so students get stupid loan offers with no other way to pay for school why? Cause the repubs gutted state aid from head to toes during the 80′s (something B. Cosby better start talking about cuz it was that move that jacked up the tuition and then the banks-ALL republicans then swooped in to offer loans that makes Tony Soprano shiver). but hey those guys did so well the country said you know its been 8 yrs why you guys take a break…a really long break.

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161 T. Troy Stewart July 13, 2009 at 9:38 am

@Shakashawshow, somebody explain the appeal of Kim Kardashian to me.

I think she’s done to black women’s asses what Elvis did to black music LOL. She flamboyantly black woman that one is LOL. Besides, she’s Ray J’s sloppy seconds. No thanks.

I like Khloe better…I know that some may say that she fits that profile of “what black men wind up with when they get with a Becky” but she doesn’t put up a front like Kimmy K, IMO…

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162 The Champ July 13, 2009 at 11:01 am

@T. Troy Stewart,

“somebody explain the appeal of Kim Kardashian to me.”

she’s physically attractive, and, despite her aforementioned trout-sack tendencies, looks like someone who’d basically let you do whatever the hell you wanted to in bed.

there’s really nothing else to it, and what separates kim from khloe is the fact that kim doesn’t look like a literal manifestation of the word “rotten”.

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163 T. Troy Stewart July 13, 2009 at 11:53 am

@The Champ, fair enough…but I bet Khloe would walk thru fire if somebody treated her the way dudes fall out over Kimmy.

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164 The Champ July 13, 2009 at 3:00 pm

@T. Troy Stewart,

“I bet Khloe would walk thru fire if somebody treated her the way dudes fall out over Kimmy.”

lol, what does this even mean?

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165 overit? July 13, 2009 at 1:42 pm

@The Champ, there’s really nothing else to it, and what separates kim from khloe is the fact that kim doesn’t look like a literal manifestation of the word “rotten”.

rude.

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166 Brandon St. Randy July 13, 2009 at 10:00 am

@Shakashawshow, If they make so much sense, why are we in the deepest recession since the depression? Why is California (A Republican controlled state) going bankrupt? Why re the financial and real estate sectors (the ones Repubs deregulated the most) in the toilet right now? Repub advocates have worse math than public high students. You refuse to cut entitlements but want to cut taxes. That’s not fiscal responsibility, that’s a recipe for disaster. Republicans opposed the stimulus on principle, even though almost every reputable economist in the world said that the package was too small already. Let’s quit pretending that because people who have homes to inherit will pay more in taxes that Republican fiscal policies are any smarter than their views on evolution. And I mean, do you really want to hang out with this crowd?

http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainment/Conservative%20Free%20Republic%20blog%20free%20speech%20flap%20after%20racial%20slurs%20directed%20Obama%20children/1782375/story.html

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167 The Champ July 13, 2009 at 10:48 am

@Shakashawshow,

“All you need to know if you’re not one is that our concerns probably just dont concern you.”

…and this is exactly the problem most non repubs have with the GOP

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168 The Champ July 13, 2009 at 10:51 am

@Shakashawshow,

“Anybody notice B. Pumper looks like Lloyd Banks?”

…and banks looks a bit like a younger, darker jay leno, which is odd because pumper and leno look nothing alike.

i think i just made myself cross-eyed again

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169 collegebunni July 13, 2009 at 8:28 am

White people?? Lol…jk. But really the naacp and older black leaders, it seems as if black people just don’t care about jesse and ‘em no more. Or do we?

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170 The Champ July 13, 2009 at 11:05 am

@collegebunni,

i just think the disconnect between your jesse’s and naacp’s and many of us is the fact that the needs of the black community have evolved…but they haven’t. its like they’re still hooping with peach baskets and no shot clock

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171 miss t-lee July 13, 2009 at 8:39 am

The South

From bad rap music to bad weather, we’ve become the scapegoat. It’s some bullish and you know it. Some of it is warranted (like my state executing folks like it’s going outta style), but don’t lump all of this nation’s phuckery on us, please and thank you.

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172 V Renee July 13, 2009 at 9:13 am

@miss t-lee,

It’s all Bush’s fault.

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173 miss t-lee July 13, 2009 at 9:42 am

@V Renee,
I can feel this. I’ve never liked that mofo.
I didn’t vote for him when he ran for governor, much less for Prez…LMAO

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174 pgh muse July 13, 2009 at 9:26 am

@miss t-lee,

I don’t know about the South being vilified Miss T – lol just the music… Actually, a lot of people that I know have and are trying to move south… like to the Carolinas, and VA. Those that have already transplanted love it. It seems like the South is where it’s at right now.

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175 miss t-lee July 13, 2009 at 9:43 am

@pgh muse,
“I don’t know about the South being vilified”

It’s going on…trust and believe. :)

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176 pgh muse July 13, 2009 at 10:33 am

@miss t-lee, lol. I had to read some of the comments to get it. And now I do :) Sharing is caring.

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177 The Champ July 13, 2009 at 11:15 am

@pgh muse,

Actually, a lot of people that I know have and are trying to move south… like to the Carolinas, and VA

while this is true, i dont know if charlotte or alexandria, virginia truly qualifies as being “south”. i’ve been guilty of this as well, but many non-southerners look at your dmv’s and carolina’s with the same type of backhanded “thats a safe south” sentiment that a prejudiced white might use when referring to a light-skinned black with a degree, but your florida’s, alabama’s, louisiana’s and texas’s are still the proverbial niggers in the basket.

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178 miss t-lee July 13, 2009 at 11:24 am

@The Champ,
I agree Champie.
Don’t start throwing stuff at me, but I don’t consider it the South either.
I can always go back to the “they owned slaves” (VA) arguement, but I still don’t think most of the country thinks of it as a southern region.
I know that I am more apt to look at it as the east coast. That’s just me though.

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179 pgh muse July 13, 2009 at 1:53 pm

@The Champ,

Good point.

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180 T. Troy Stewart July 13, 2009 at 9:32 am

@miss t-lee, I “love” when people diss The South as if the rest of the country is somehow a paradise for black Americans.

I’ve had the fortune of living in different sections of the country and (I don’t need to tell the VSB crowd this) but the majority of Black America needs to know that they hatin’ on Negroes from Bangor, Maine to Hawaii.

There are places “up north” that make you wonder if South Africa didn’t have suburbs on the North American continent

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181 miss t-lee July 13, 2009 at 9:44 am

@T. Troy Stewart,
Good comment, sir.

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182 T. Troy Stewart July 13, 2009 at 9:56 am

@miss t-lee, I know that this may come across as me bashing NYC again but let’s be honest, if you didn’t say the location of the place where somebody got shot at 41 times for reaching for his wallet, got plunger raped while under police custody and where the Mayor approved use of hollow point bullets, you would have thought that it was somebody going buckwild “down South”

and, just this past week, the swimming pool incident in Philly?

People trip on the black American all across this great nation, not just the South.

Hell, I don’t want the Rebel flag banned. Fly that mofo proudly. Makes it that much easier to identify who I need to stay away from.

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183 miss t-lee July 13, 2009 at 10:06 am

@T. Troy Stewart,
I’ve always appreciated the “in your face” racism of some of these little cities/counties down this way. Definitely lets ya know what time it is.

As you mentioned, racists are everywhere. Don’t get it twisted. Even in 2009.

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184 blackberry molasses July 13, 2009 at 10:16 am

@T. Troy Stewart,

As far as the Valley Swim Club incident, all I can say is I’m ashamed for my city. But not surprised. People want to vilify the south as the bastion of bass -ackwards racist ideologies… but there are parts of PA, NY, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois and even New Jersey that I wouldn’t be caught DEAD in. EVER. Cuz I’m not making it out. Alive, anyway.

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185 N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall.... July 13, 2009 at 10:08 am

@T. Troy Stewart,

great point. it’s funny to me when black folk who live in northern cities act like the south is the worst place for blacks. which is crazy when cops kill black men like it’s ninja hunting season in a lot of northern cities….

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186 Dante_Alexander July 13, 2009 at 9:38 am

@miss t-lee,

For real.

I lived in Atlanta for years, and heard a BUNCH of terrible songs that were made only for the neighborhoods from which the groups eminated.

Like, I went to the Poole Palace before it became a nationwide dance craze/cultural disgrace. The dance was already firmly entrenched. Everybody in the spot (yes, mostly hood ninjas/rats, but you’re not paying attention to the point of the story) loved the music. It made them feel good. Even the song who’s chorus was “Beetch I got Money”.

I digress here, but that last chorus was 6 years ago. Apparently Plies realized he could strike gold with this premise. Anyway…

I’m originally from Detroit. We have DJ Assault. I could only imagine the outrage of everybody in the Hip Hop community if “Azz and teetays” or “Gel and Weave” or “Let Me Bang” were to make it to the mainstream. Every Big City has a sound that is made by and for the local hood. Who’s fault is it that this makes the mainstream? I can’t STAND Go-Go, but if it were suddenly to become the new “in” thing, everybody would cry to the heavens! They did so with the Bay, They did it with Houston, they continually do it with Atlanta.

I’m just saying. Everybody in Detroit knows “bald headed bishes/that talk a lotta sheet/just bend over/and just take this deek/let me bang…”

I’m ashamed to type it, but I relish the hell out of it when I’m foolin at a club in The D. Until the fight breaks out. Dammit.

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187 V Renee July 13, 2009 at 9:41 am

@Dante_Alexander,

Gel and Weave – Is this Project Pat?

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188 Humble_One July 13, 2009 at 9:51 am

@V Renee,

No its a song called Gel and Weave. It goes Gel and Weave/Gel-and-Weave.

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189 Legendary Dash July 13, 2009 at 10:32 am

@V Renee, Project Pat does have a song of the same name. The hook goes:

She she she she got gel and weave, gel and weave
“She got gel and weave, gel and weave
She got gel and weave, gel and weave
Weave weave in they hair, weed in they purse, till Crunk! She got gel and
weave, gel and weave
She got gel and weave, gel and weave
She got gel and weave, gel and weave
Wit a big round *ss, I’m yo man to be”

I lost my “Real” Hip Hop Head card messing around with Hypnotize Minds.

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190 miss t-lee July 13, 2009 at 11:07 am

@Legendary Dash,
I’m so glad to know that there are two different songs pertaining to “Gel & Weave”.
I’ve only heard the Project Pat version though…ya’ll gotta link to the other one?

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191 miss t-lee July 13, 2009 at 9:47 am

@Dante_Alexander,
Gotta love the local faves!!! :)
Let me hear some early UGK or some June 27th right now and I’ma be gettin’ down at my desk. Mayne hol’ up!

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192 CPT Callamity July 13, 2009 at 11:19 am

@miss t-lee,

I got June 27th in the car right now along with Codeine Fiend, Bigtyme Records and a few other screw classics. I’m even riding UGK’s first one (re-released version) and DJ DMD’s joints.

I’m from the DMV so yeah I feel kind of odd bumping Screw but it’s the perfect tempo for riding…

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193 miss t-lee July 13, 2009 at 11:28 am

@CPT Callamity,
*daps*
You’re alright with me sir.

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194 Humble_One July 13, 2009 at 9:55 am

@Dante_Alexander,

You forgot

H**s take off your clothes/H**s get naked

You won’t find me playing this but in the club and at the ta-ta bar this is what I want to hear. It seems like only the South, Chicago, Detroit, and the DMV has music for women to dance freaky to in the club.

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195 Kindred Smile July 13, 2009 at 11:04 am

@Dante_Alexander, This is for you:

Aw sh*t, here we go
Hit it from the back, beat that h*e
Bishes betta show respect
Hear my name and snap yo neck

**bows**

My inner Wesssideeer is footworking her heart out. Chi City stand up!

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196 Dante_Alexander July 13, 2009 at 12:19 pm

@Kindred Smile,

Uh-Oh… You done got me started…

“Stankin arse bishes that need to wash up/Dont get mad when i dont want to fuuk/You need soap and water/soap and water/Soap and water/Soap and Water/Water, Water, Water, Water”

I feel dumber having actually typed those words that I somehow memorized, but there’s no way to forget them when they’ve been hammered into your brain in the middle of a severe innebriation when you’re 16 and the lady folk on the disgustingly disgusting dance floor bend on over in front of you whilst all you have to do is keep your balance.

I miss home at times.

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197 T. Troy Stewart July 13, 2009 at 10:24 am

@miss t-lee, I went to high school in Mississippi and although I hated every second, it was an interesting experience. On the weekends, the clubs on Saturday and the church on Sundays were the most segregated places to go. You knew not to go to the club right across the county line because you were black and you knew not to go to the church down on the highway because you were black. Yep, the “spirit” was segregated in more ways than one and that didn’t bother me at all. I don’t want to be where I am not wanted and neither should any one else, Justin Timberlake LOL

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198 miss t-lee July 13, 2009 at 10:28 am

@T. Troy Stewart,
Say word?
I’ve never spent anytime down in MS, but I’ve heard plenty stories. Parts of TX are like that as well, you know the whole “across the railroad tracks” syndrome…lol

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199 T. Troy Stewart July 13, 2009 at 10:47 am

@miss t-lee, the thing is, there are “across the railroad” joints all across this country. I’m here in Cleveland and I will never forget my first day on the job, we were in a meeting and the boss asked me to introduce myself and someone asked what side of town I lived on and I said “Westside” and they cheered. I hadn’t been in town long enough to know that “eastside” is the predominantly black side of Cleveland. I live on the eastside now LOL.

My point is, everywhere I’ve been, you knew where your people were and were they weren’t.

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200 miss t-lee July 13, 2009 at 10:52 am

@T. Troy Stewart,
LOL@ them cheering.

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201 T. Troy Stewart July 13, 2009 at 10:56 am

@miss t-lee, lol you know?

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202 Stuff Ghetto People Like July 13, 2009 at 4:08 pm

@T. Troy Stewart,
when folks say we can’t do this or that due to be Black….

Is it implied that 2520s can do absolutely whatever they want, and that in turn all non-2520s think that’s OK?

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203 Cheekie July 13, 2009 at 10:57 am

@miss t-lee,

“The South”

Ya’ll got bomb arse food.

Oh, and the bliss that is the infamous leprechan sketch.

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204 miss t-lee July 13, 2009 at 11:00 am

@Cheekie,
“the infamous leprechan sketch.”
That wasn’t my part of the South…lol

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205 klysha July 13, 2009 at 11:03 am

@miss t-lee, the south

totally agree with this…most of the music made in the south was made for the people who live there and can relate to it…it’s just a fluke really that so much of it went mainstream and people all over the country caught on…..it’s not the people in the souths fault that their music actually makes people want to get up and party and have a good time…at a PARTY….south haters make me itch….

I live in the DMV and there are plenty of south haters here who don’t know that they too are country as h*ll

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206 CPT Callamity July 13, 2009 at 11:16 am

@klysha,

No one from the DMV can really hate on the south. Most of the people here are from N. or S. Carolina and only separated from the styx by about 1 generation.

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207 Humble_One July 13, 2009 at 11:26 am

@klysha,

“I live in the DMV and there are plenty of south haters here who don’t know that they too are country as h*ll”

I always find that funny about the DMV. It is like borderline southern literally and people want to front like they ain’t. You can’t front to hard when you make Go-Go music and produce celebrities like Monique and Wanda Sykes.

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208 IVR July 13, 2009 at 12:31 pm

@Humble_One, “I always find that funny about the DMV. It is like borderline southern literally and people want to front like they ain’t. You can’t front to hard when you make Go-Go music and produce celebrities like Monique and Wanda Sykes.”

I consider the DMV to be the south . . . But I am a brooklynite . . . I consider Staten Island to be the south . .. really from DC down is the south to me . . . even though I have met plenty of folks from bum eff Maryland that sound like they are from Tennessee or some other backwards place (hate hate hate LoL) and I have met people from upstate new york (aka New York jr.) who I would consider to be country as hell . . . who knows, I think there is a mason dixon line involved in this argument somewhere.

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209 Stuff Ghetto People Like July 13, 2009 at 4:03 pm

New Yorkers swear they’re the only cosmopolitan, sophisticated, city people in the entire world.

This when I’ve met plenty of folks from NYC who are as rough around the edges, ill-mannered and ill-tempered as you could possibly get.

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210 IVR July 13, 2009 at 5:02 pm

@Stuff Ghetto People Like,

Nah, those of us that have travelled to other cities have a better understanding of the other sophisticated cosmopolitan centers in the country. The thing about New York is that you immediately take fire from other folks that aren’t from New York because they automatically assume that you are degrading their hometown subconsciously. As soon as someone asks where you are from and you say New York there is a look that they give you before you say anything else (unless they are also from NY).

A lot of the folks I went to high school with in NY are moving out and heading to these cosmopolitan centers because they are actually offering better opportunities for young educated black folks. . . can’t help but love where you are from though

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211 V Renee July 13, 2009 at 8:50 am

Paris Hilton, Ray J, Rain Pryor, O.J, Gucci Mayne, Souljah Boy, gold teeth, 28 inch rims .

I have nothing.

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212 Legendary Dash July 13, 2009 at 8:55 am

@V Renee,

Souljah Boy Tell Em is the American Dream, a viral marketing genius, and the king of stream of consciousness rap. British rapper The Streets received critical praise,and blumpkins for doing what S.B does. Now watch me you!!

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213 Cheekie July 13, 2009 at 10:56 am

@V Renee,

The one reason I like Soulja Boy Tell Em is because I like to play around with his name and make it all proper-like, such as:

Soulja Boy Inform Them
Soulja Boy Enlighten Them
Soulja Boy Declare to Them

And when all done with an English accent, it’s all the more fun. I desperately want to meet him just so I can call him one of the above three. Since, ya know, the idea to make your stage name an entire sentence is sort of absurd.

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214 Kindred Smile July 13, 2009 at 11:05 am

@Cheekie, me and you? >>>here<<<

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215 Legendary Dash July 13, 2009 at 9:09 am

TPain + Autotune, and in some circles DJ Screw.

These two men get an unfair amount of hate from a lot of people. I tend to give TPain a pass for most of his shenanigans because it is all done tongue in cheek. Apparently a lot of people are not in on the joke. I have heard from a lot of people that Chopped & Screwed music is an abomination. Those people and I are no longer friends. R.I.P DJ Screw. One of the worst things to happen in music for me, was actually hearing Mike Jone’s real voice.

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216 miss t-lee July 13, 2009 at 9:20 am

@Legendary Dash,
“Chopped & Screwed music is an abomination”

We refer to it down here as screwed and chopped.
Abomination my arse!! How could they say that? Especially the F-Action series.
I’m glad you de-friended some peeps over that, you’re cool with me. :)

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217 CPT Callamity July 13, 2009 at 9:41 am

@miss t-lee,

DJ Screw was a legend..nuff said. I haven’t heard it done the same since…but respect to O.G. Ron C and Mike Watts.

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218 miss t-lee July 13, 2009 at 9:48 am

@CPT Callamity,
True. OG and Watts come close, but they will never be able to top what Screw did.

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219 Humble_One July 13, 2009 at 9:48 am

@Legendary Dash,

I like T-Pain. The problem is everybody using a vocoder that aint T-Pain. He moved units using it then everyone else bit it.

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220 N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall.... July 13, 2009 at 10:12 am

@Humble_One,
exactly…i like him, but now i’m tired of hearing every other person using it. do your own thing.

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221 Cheekie July 13, 2009 at 11:22 am

@Humble_One,

Yup. I think that’s when the true hate of the auto-tune arrived. When everyone and their Mama started doing it on their tracks.

It’s funny because I used to HATE T-Pain when he came out with “I’m Sprung”. The do-do-do-do-do thang at the beginning of the sun used to make my teeth hurt it was so cringe-worthy. Then I eventually warmed up to him when he brought out “Buy You A Drank” because it was a damn hot song. Now, I like him a lot. It’s just so funny how extreme I used to feel about him back then. I still don’t like “I’m Sprung”, though.

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222 Humble_One July 13, 2009 at 9:10 am

black republicans

Although I don’t agree with their ideology I agree that they get a bad rap. At least they are honest about their ideology. You know they are about individuals getting the most money they can by any means. Some so called liberals front like they are for the people but they are about money.

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223 T. Troy Stewart July 13, 2009 at 9:33 am

@Humble_One, the older you get, the more “republican” you become, IMO.

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224 Cheekie July 13, 2009 at 11:18 am

@T. Troy Stewart,

“the older you get, the more “republican” you become, IMO.”

My sister has expressed the same sentiment. She has gotten more conservative as she’s gotten older. But, really, becoming older doesn’t mean you’re more likely to become conservative, by default. Maybe it’s difficult for me to imagine my young liberal self EVER becoming a conservative (which, this is everyone’s feeling when they’re younger but it happens anyway in a lot of cases), but folks are acting like there are no old hippies out there or something.

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225 Omar July 13, 2009 at 11:32 am

@Cheekie,

I think you just get less radical and start realizing the revolution ain’t coming.

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226 T. Troy Stewart July 13, 2009 at 12:31 pm

@Cheekie, there are old hippies out there, they work for the government, nowadays.

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227 kamakula July 13, 2009 at 9:42 am

Regarding herpes. . . about 90% of US people have herpes. Yep, 9/10. And people, that means adults and children, men, women, boys, and girls.

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228 blackberry molasses July 13, 2009 at 10:03 am

@kamakula,
I wouldn’t say 90%…. but its more common than most people think. Ever had a cold sore? You have herpes. Ever had chicken pox?? Guess what… herpes.

As long as it doesn’t make you miserable and make your peen or vag-n-kisses miserable, just keep it moving.

Brought to you by your friendly neighborhood epidemiologist.

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229 kamakula July 13, 2009 at 10:16 am

@blackberry molasses,

I’m not the one saying 90%. Doctors and other people who study this are the ones saying 90%.

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230 CPT Callamity July 13, 2009 at 10:22 am

@blackberry molasses,

I still don’t understand how something so common still has so much of a stigma. I see people walking around with cold sores and they act like it’s normal…which, according to the numbers it is. A friend who is a doctor says that it’s so common he stopped giving the test.

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231 Humble_One July 13, 2009 at 9:44 am

“Loose Women”

From my experience the majority of women that i’ve known that sleep with and get wild with any and every dude don’t do it because they are freaky. A lot of these women have SERIOUS emotional issues and need help.

“Muscle Cars and Sports Cars”

People think V8 and automatically assume bad gas mileage. I have a car with a 350 capable of doing high 12′s and still gets 22 mpg in the city.

“hip-hop heads or backpackers”

Just because we like MF Doom, The Roots, and beats by DJ Premier does not mean we’re not into car, clothes, and women. Dudes hear your taste in music and want to throw you in a box. We all don’t like Talib Kweli or have dreads and smell like nag champa or oils.

“hoodrats”

They can be wild and uncouth at times but, these chics can be some of the most down to earth women you can meet. What they lack in some areas they make up for it in being real.

“Fly-Over States”

Just because you are not from the west coast or northeast does not mean you are backwards. We all don’t chew tobacco, drive trucks, and breath through our mouths.

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232 T. Troy Stewart July 13, 2009 at 9:58 am

@Humble_One, I agree on the “hoodrats”…they love to cuddle

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233 blackberry molasses July 13, 2009 at 10:04 am

@Humble_One,
“Fly-Over States”

Just because you are not from the west coast or northeast does not mean you are backwards. We all don’t chew tobacco, drive trucks, and breath through our mouths.

Yes it does.

I keed, I keed.

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234 pgh muse July 13, 2009 at 10:15 am

@Humble_One,

***Stands up and claps for this WHOLE comment***

Good Stuff!

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235 CPT Callamity July 13, 2009 at 10:24 am

@pgh muse,

Gotta co-sign on:

Hoodrats – sometimes they are downright fun and you feel better knowing all it takes is a bottle of Hen to get the party started instead of faking it going to some damn wine tasting.

Backpackers – Doom is King.

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236 pgh muse July 13, 2009 at 10:29 am

@CPT Callamity, yeah.

I have someone really close to me who could be considered a “hoodrat” but I told her recently that I need to take a class or two from her on a couple things including how to treat a man. She has it down to a science.

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237 CPT Callamity July 13, 2009 at 11:14 am

@pgh muse,

The thing with hoodrats is this:
They know they don’t have a million dollar shoe budget and they know they might not have the best vocabulary in the world but they do simple shyt that makes a brotha feel good. Namely:
1. F*ck you like no other and you won’t hear them complaining about being “a good girl.”
2. They have no problems if you blaze one before getting down.
3. They’ll at least make you some cheesy eggs in the morning.
4. Their living rooms are made for f*cking. Why with no coffee table and a few inflatable chairs, it’s going to be a fun time!

There are some downsides though…

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238 pgh muse July 13, 2009 at 11:26 am

@ Cpt Callamity,
There are some downsides though…

lmao… definitely agreed.

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239 Cheekie July 13, 2009 at 10:49 am

@Humble_One,

“Just because you are not from the west coast or northeast does not mean you are backwards. We all don’t chew tobacco, drive trucks, and breath through our mouths.”

HAHA. I think the Chi in particular is a conundrum because we is in the midwest which has all the implications of arse-backwards living, but we’re also a fast-paced urban city.

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240 Humble_One July 13, 2009 at 11:16 am

@Cheekie,

It’s the same in Detroit. If you take the average person from Chicago or Detroit I don’t think they could tell you about cornfields, fetching water from the well, or driving on dirt roads.

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241 Cheekie July 13, 2009 at 11:40 am

@Humble_One,

*nods*

The cornfields thang, I can tell ya about because I went to college in hickville Dekalb, IL. And they had cornFESTS. lmfao

They were fun, though.

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242 Nicki Sunshine July 13, 2009 at 11:05 am

@Humble_One, ” breath through our mouths.”

Kid. U. NOt. I was sitting here with my mouth hung open, breathing and then I saw this.

That moment might have been the equivalent of a little boy’s mother catching him Master Kate.

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243 Humble_One July 13, 2009 at 11:11 am

@Nicki Sunshine,

“Kid. U. NOt. I was sitting here with my mouth hung open, breathing and then I saw this.”

You are from Kentucky. You are not an exception to the rule.

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244 kamakula July 13, 2009 at 11:59 am

@Humble_One,

What is this car?

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245 Humble_One July 13, 2009 at 12:37 pm

@kamakula,

Camaros, Firebirds, and Corvettes with a manual transmission made from the late 90s till know easily get 18-22 mpg in the city with normal driving

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246 CPT Callamity July 13, 2009 at 10:15 am

Hammer (formerly MC Hammer):
When he first came out, he made danceable music and videos. It wasn’t unheard of to copy his moves in order to take to the school dance next Friday. However, once he expanded his entourage to 100 people (Oaktown’s 357 was enough), donned genie pants and even took “When Dove’s Cry” and made a gospel track out of it…it was over. Most rapper’s at the time were mad because he was outselling them and booking way more shows but he got the attention of our parents who hated hiphop and enjoyed the happy footed spectacle. He wasn’t that bad…now his new stuff…it’s over dawg…over.

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247 Stuff Ghetto People Like July 13, 2009 at 11:00 am

He was no lyrical gymnast and he had plenty of corny tracks, but I can’t front on Hammer for the stuff I liked sonically.

“Pump It Up”
“Pray”
“Pumps And A Bump”
“Let’s Get It Started”

You just can’t get the uncool tag in rap…because no one will ride for you then.

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248 Cheekie July 13, 2009 at 11:14 am

@Stuff Ghetto People Like,

“Pumps And A Bump”

That DANCE he does during the hook never fails to crack me up and cringe simultaneously. That song is a sad, sad, mess.

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249 miss t-lee July 13, 2009 at 11:17 am

@Cheekie,
“That DANCE he does during the hook never fails to crack me up and cringe simultaneously”
While he was wearing the banana hammock.
Not. the. business.

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250 Nicki Sunshine July 13, 2009 at 11:06 am

@CPT Callamity, He had me doing the Chinese Typewriter (wherever did they get the name of that dance, anyway?)

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251 CPT Callamity July 13, 2009 at 12:25 pm

@Nicki Sunshine,

You’re showing your age Nick!
Here’s a picture:
http://collateraldamage.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/chinese-typewriter.jpg

You had to manually move the spool back over when you got to the end of a sentence. This was before electric typewriters and return buttons. So…he would dance around and tap his feet like the character keys going from side to side…

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252 Nicki Sunshine July 13, 2009 at 12:47 pm

@CPT Callamity, LMAO!!!!

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253 The Champ July 13, 2009 at 11:22 am

@CPT Callamity,

you know, there might have been a point in the champ’s early childhood where he begged his parents to let him get a short s-curl with 4 full moon parts exactly like hammer’s. he might have cried once when they told him “hell the f*ck no”, and he might have even tried to cut the parts in his head himself with a pair of construction paper scissors.

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254 CPT Callamity July 13, 2009 at 12:22 pm

@The Champ,

LMAO! I’ll admit that Pump it Up was my ish!

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255 Cheekie July 13, 2009 at 10:40 am

To tell ya the truth, I’ve always been pretty indifferent to Beyonce as a person. As a singer, meh. I never got the hype over a lady that hollers more than sings, but to each their own. She has a great pop voice, but other than that, she should’nt be the go-to girl for complex higher-octave-than-she-can-reach-in-her-6-inch-stilettos ballads such as Ave Maria. But, again, as a person…I’ve been sort of in the middle, thought she was a sweet and pretty girl. UNTIL.

I just now heard about her Elle mag comment regarding the Jacksons. Someone on a message board made a comment that they were glad that Beyonce wasn’t at a major event for ONCE (i.e. the MJ memorial) and said it was probably due to her beef with Janet. I’m all, “WHA?”. I have no idea where I’ve been (Pluto, apparently), but I haven’t heard of this. Anyhow, most uncouth and tactless comment I’ve heard in a while and it’s really colored my opinion of her. WOW.

Champie Lampie’s picks:

Black Republicans: I like when folks have diagreeing opinions. I’m a debater by nature. Judge Larry Elder? I will CUT him even have an engaging discussion with him despite how I vehemently disagree with him.

Kim Kardashian: I like her style and her great taste in the lust-factory that is Reggie Bush.

Herpes: I’m all for making a separate seating section at the VSB myth BBQ. Call it the Herp Hut.

Diddy: Completely justified. I disagree with this to an extent

“i dont believe he takes himself seriously either.”

YES. HE. DOES. Maybe when he’s joking and stuff he doesn’t take himself seriously, which is redundant since he’s JOKING, but other than that, I can tell that mofo thinks his sh*ts manna. He has this “I’m so tight” look about himself while he spits the lamest rhymes in DiddyBopLand. I can laugh with him at times, but when he gets on that ego-trippin’ ish just to get attention, then that’s when he loses me. Also, he wears sunglasses inside and no one can do that without looking like a supreme Summer’s Eve except for Jack Nicholson. I exclude Jack because I think his are surgically attached, thus he can’t help it.

And egomaniac that I actually enjoy is Kanye. Now THAT mofo knows how to exude outrageous ego that is so outrageous, you think he can’t possibly be serious. And he actually counters his ego with some humility in his songs. So, that’s my addition. Kanyeezy.

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256 OrangeStar616 July 13, 2009 at 10:44 am

@Cheekie,

P Shi**Y is an opportunistic DL womanizing parasite……

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257 Dom July 13, 2009 at 11:03 am

@OrangeStar616,

Yeah, homeboy is DEFINITELY Down Low…

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258 The Champ July 13, 2009 at 11:28 am

@OrangeStar616,

P Shi**Y is an opportunistic DL womanizing parasite……

lol, apparently we probably shouldn’t sit you next to diddy at the vsb all-white happy hour next month, huh?

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259 Cheekie July 13, 2009 at 11:38 am

@The Champ,

Actually yeah, go ahead, if only for the opportunity for everyone to hear OrangeStar tell him this, ceremoniously. I’d pay for that. lol

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260 OrangeStar616 July 13, 2009 at 3:08 pm

@Cheekie, LMAO, honey I’d do it too LOL, after a hard side eye grit LOL

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261 Nicki Sunshine July 13, 2009 at 11:07 am

@Cheekie, I love Kanye, I think he’s egotistical “self” is him having a little fun. It’s hilarious.

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262 The Champ July 13, 2009 at 11:24 am

@Cheekie,

I just now heard about her Elle mag comment regarding the Jacksons.

what comments? (since im too lazy to just goggle it)

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263 Cheekie July 13, 2009 at 11:33 am

@The Champ,

Alrighty, since you’ve obviously had a hard day at work and can’t Google. Either use this:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=beyonce+and+janet+jackson+beef

Or the direct link to the comment:
http://highbridnation.com/2008/12/26/janet-jacksons-beef-with-beyonce-is-official/

Her comment was most foul and she has no self-awareness about her OWN parents.

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264 blackberry molasses July 13, 2009 at 1:00 pm

@Cheekie,

wow… she’s talking MAD greasy. iCan’t with her.
her parents didn’t use her like the Jackson’s used their kids? Is that her point?
well….
Her manager is A Pimp Named DADDY KNOWLES. Bishop Don “Magic” Juan is either extremely proud of or hatin’ REAL hard on Papa Knowles. Pimp game PROPER he is. And Mama Tina is his bottom b*tch.

Yawnce… SADDOWN.

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265 Cheekie July 13, 2009 at 1:08 pm

@blackberry molasses,

Exactly! To Beyonce: Money ain’t the only way to use folks, genius! And even if you got some, there’s this little term called “greed”…look it up.

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266 The Champ July 13, 2009 at 3:09 pm

@Cheekie,

hmmm. while she probably shouldnt have said it, i don’t see the greasiness here. it seems like she’s just echoing what everyone else already believed to be true, and has already discussed ad nauseum.

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267 Cheekie July 13, 2009 at 3:37 pm

@The Champ,

But it seems like she’s condescendingly saying that she shouldn’t be compared to the Jacksons because HER perfect parents didn’t use her because they were a well-off family (and even mentions them owning a Jag, which…so?! lol). Except, that ain’t even true. She needs to put on her high-heels, climb a ladder, and get the eff over herself. Her parents uses her just as bit as much as the Jacksons, only they used different methods.

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268 Legendary Dash July 13, 2009 at 12:42 pm

@Cheekie,

What’s wrong with wearing shades inside. I am at the office with my shades on. The fluorescent lights are too bright for me, and I can sleep without anyone noticing.

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269 Cheekie July 13, 2009 at 12:57 pm

@Legendary Dash,

Because most folks do it in order to look cool, which is trying too hard, thus eliminating any chances of actually being cool.

i.e. folks who wear them AT THE CLUB where it’s dark and at awards shows where it’s also dark.

I felt it wasn’t necessary to add those who need to wear them for rational reasons. “Looking cool” is not a rational reason.

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270 Legendary Dash July 13, 2009 at 5:21 pm

@Cheekie,

Wearing shades in the club protects the wearers from the effects of strobe lights, smoke machines, and angry drink tossers. Shades also give the wearer an additional flirting tool, by providing the wearer with cover for the windows to his soul, and thus imbuing the wearer with some dash of mysteriousness. Looking cool is just the cherry on the top of the ice cream sundae.

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271 Cheekie July 13, 2009 at 5:35 pm

@Legendary Dash,

LOL, Mmmhmm, yeah I’m sure the majority of sunglasses wearers think of all that when they decide to wear them inside. Very complex! ;)

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272 OrangeStar616 July 13, 2009 at 10:43 am

Marriage
Monogamy
Personal Relationships with GOD, not church per say
Love

:-)

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273 T. Troy Stewart July 13, 2009 at 10:49 am

@OrangeStar616, totally agree on Monogamy and Love. And don’t let the fellas know you do something for your woman that may come off as “gay” or “henpecked” to them…you will lose your man card.

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274 Cheekie July 13, 2009 at 1:33 pm

@T. Troy Stewart,

LMFAO @ the perplexity that is ninjas thinking that doing something for your WOMAN is “gay”.

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275 miss t-lee July 13, 2009 at 1:41 pm

@Cheekie,
These are normally kats who wouldn’t have anyone look twice at they mangy azzes.

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276 pgh muse July 13, 2009 at 10:58 am

@OrangeStar616, Ooooo! Good list!

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277 T. Troy Stewart July 13, 2009 at 10:52 am

Christina Agularia doesn’t get the love she deserves. That lady can SING. If they would have cast her in something like THE WIZ as Dorothy, I would have gave the casting people the slow clap and would have bought ten tickets to hear her belt out HOME 10 times in a row.

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278 blackberry molasses July 13, 2009 at 12:33 pm

@T. Troy Stewart,

I don’t disagree with you. Her vocal talents are actually quite spectacular. I blame her label for attempting to market her as bubble gum pop a la Britney and Mandy. She rebelled with her whole Dirrrty persona (which looked dirty) but no one can deny that “Beautiful” is a terrific song.

Then she went pseudo hip hop with Black Barbie Doll Li’l Kim which was… weird.

I think she’s beginning to find her identity as a vocalist now. And adding 15 lbs to her frame didn’t hurt either.

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279 T. Troy Stewart July 13, 2009 at 12:38 pm

@blackberry molasses, lol @ “Black Barbie Doll” I still say that remake of LADY MARMALADE was unnecessary

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280 blackberry molasses July 13, 2009 at 2:03 pm

@T. Troy Stewart,
unnecessary and PAINFUL. My ears have yet to forgive me.

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281 N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall.... July 13, 2009 at 10:55 am

Black Republicans–yeah, they get a bad rap, but it’s mostly b/c the Blackwells, Williams, Steeles,and Thomas’ of the party won’t just call out some of the racist and ignorant BS that is perpetrated by some in the party. plus, Blackwell did some shady shyt in Ohio during the 2004 election. I can deal more with my local black republicans than i can with the one’s on the national stage who are just trying to remain relevant by repeating talking points instead of speaking the truth…. then again, the black dems on the national stage aren’t much better…

As for being fiscally responsible, most black people I know are fiscally responsible. We have legacy of doing for ourselves and our family and doing for everyone else and their family. Beleive it or not, we are the originators of that whole “picking yourself up by your bootstraps” thing. how else could we have lasted this long under these conditions?

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282 T. Troy Stewart July 13, 2009 at 11:01 am

@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall…., I met that Ken Blackwell once, I think he was jealous because there was more than one black person in the room.

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283 V Renee July 13, 2009 at 11:17 am

@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….,

I hate Ken Blackwell.

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284 Omar July 13, 2009 at 11:56 am

@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….,

Don’t forget Alan Keyes, he’s a Jackass too and what’s funny is they just keep him around to run in areas with a significant black population and he never wins.

Shout out to Colin “eff toing the party line” Powell though.

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285 N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall.... July 13, 2009 at 12:00 pm

@Omar, i forgot alan keyes…but he is so irrelevant, people in his on party don’t want anything to do with him. and i have soo much respect for Colin Powell…if he ran for president in 2012 (3rd party perhaps?), i would have to think long and hard about it.

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286 A Plus July 13, 2009 at 12:57 pm

@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall…., i’d vote for colin powell in a heartbeat. too bad his wife won’t let him run

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287 Cheekie July 13, 2009 at 12:09 pm

@Omar,

Oh yeah, that Alan Keyes mofo. He definitely brought on the hate in his heyday when running against Obama. He’s as relevant as payphones right now.

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288 Stank-0 July 13, 2009 at 11:01 am

I’ma step in it, but I’m a fan of controversy. …

Bill Cosby.

His method was flawed the message wasn’t.

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289 The Champ July 13, 2009 at 11:31 am

@Stank-0,

i dont disagree and sh*t

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290 Stuff Ghetto People Like July 13, 2009 at 11:27 am

I’m not mad at Black Republicans. At least they know why they’re Republicans and consciously chose to be such. Besides, at least they’ll admit they’re conservative. Yep, time for me to get on it.

Most Black Democrats aren’t progressive in the least. Most definitely didn’t consciously go with the Dems, or if they did, it was in a tradition sense or a lesser of two evils sense. Again though, not consciously progressives…especially not with the homophobic, church-fueled intolerance I see exhibited early and often.

Trust, Black people are the biggest Nazis about different spiritual and social thought. We all get side eyes for not being card carryin’, pig eatin’ evangelical Christians. When the reason most Blacks are Baptists and such is because they didn’t want Grandma to whack ‘em with a rolling pin. Our community doesn’t have all these babies out of wedlock because we wanted babies THAT bad…the above has a lot to do with it. Of course single mamas will never cop to it, because it’s not politically correct to do so.

Latinos suffer a similar communal Nazism that keeps most of them Catholic and subjugates women to crankin’ out kids by 21. Sad as hell.

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291 Humble_One July 13, 2009 at 11:37 am

“Trust, Black people are the biggest Nazis about different spiritual and social thought. We all get side eyes for not being card carryin’, pig eatin’ evangelical Christians.”

Cosign 100%. I think the lack of being educated as far as a wordly sense has to do with it. If black folks were truly progressive more of them would be in the hood instead of getting theirs and getting gone. Sometimes democratic voting black folks are no different than confederate flag waving republicans.

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292 Jez July 13, 2009 at 11:55 am

so true about diddy… ha!

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293 Omar July 13, 2009 at 12:01 pm

I had this one black republican who back around the time of the 2000 election had the audacity to say to me that “black peope act like if Bush get’s elected the whole country is going to go to hell”…

I’ve been looking for thie ninja for 9 years!

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294 Cheekie July 13, 2009 at 12:27 pm

@Omar,

“I’ve been looking for thie ninja for 9 years!”

LMFAO, he hidin’ with Bin Laden somewhere. I wish he WOULD show his face.

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295 miss t-lee July 13, 2009 at 1:10 pm

@Omar,
I don’t know if this is the kat you’re talking about but would it be JC Watts?

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296 Omar July 13, 2009 at 5:07 pm

@miss t-lee, Naw it was a friend of mine, nobody famous.

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297 SouthernGirl July 13, 2009 at 12:12 pm

seeing as how i am still infected with the plague *cough* i can’t really laugh at all the nonsense i’m reading here today. y’all are making my chest hurt.

i too think tyra gets a bad rap. i love her and her dramatic.pauses.for. emphasis. , gravity defying wigs and occasionally comical outfits.

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298 Monk July 13, 2009 at 12:18 pm

Haven’t gotten through all the comments yet, but just wanted to give a big “What Up Doe!!” to Dante_Alexander for mentioning those Detroit classics. Hahahaha…memories. I see you Humble One.

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299 Humble_One July 13, 2009 at 1:01 pm

@Monk,

What Up Doe!! What part of the D are you from?

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300 V Renee July 13, 2009 at 12:57 pm

Tiny .

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301 Dangerous July 13, 2009 at 1:07 pm

Co-sign on the Joe Jackson.

If it wasn’t for him they would be no Michael Jackson, Jackson 5 or Janet Jackson, literally.

Jackson 3 you said Joe? Yeah I feel that.

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302 Cheekie July 13, 2009 at 1:23 pm

@Dangerous,

“If it wasn’t for him they would be no Michael Jackson, Jackson 5 or Janet Jackson, literally. ”

I never understood this defense. Like this somehow erases what they had to suffer to in order to get to where they were. There’s really no way to prove they they wouldn’t have gotten to where they were had he not used the exact methods he used (i.e., the beating, the tramautizing, etc). Just because they were successful doesnt absolve him of any wrongdoing.

One has to ask themselves of MJ, “Yeah, he was a mega superstar, but at what cost?”

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303 Dangerous July 13, 2009 at 4:24 pm

@Cheekie, plenty of people got beats as a child, all the Jacksons got it. Only Michael turned out how he did, the rest are pretty normal (okay you can have Latoya). A lot of MJ fans act like he only did it to Michael.

He beat his children, “traumatized” them, 1 turns (sorry to say this) in to a freak, then you become the bad guy.

If Mike had turned out like Jermaine, people wouldn’t hate Joe so much. He’d be known for his strong back hand, that’s it. He pretty much gets blamed for what Michael became.

I feel you Joe, I feel you.

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304 Cheekie July 13, 2009 at 4:43 pm

@Dangerous,

“plenty of people got beats as a child”

Every child is different, though. Every child doesn’t react to it the same way.

“Only Michael turned out how he did, the rest are pretty normal (okay you can have Latoya). A lot of MJ fans act like he only did it to Michael.”

Nah, I realize he didn’t only do it to Mike. But, it’s very telling that MJ would vomit at the sight of him. That doesn’t sound like the reaction of a child who just got “whoopins” like any other Black kid. There was something else going on there beyond the beatings. Hell, MJ didn’t even get the worst of it as the other brothers were always told to “Do it like Michael”. Yeah, Mike is sensitive, but still… *side eye*

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305 Monk July 13, 2009 at 1:10 pm

*Video Models – These women are consistently referred to as hoes unjustly. The vast majority of these models are not hoes at all, just attractive, photogenic women who know how to work a camera and decide to participate in a project designed to sell music and give a visual interpretation of the music. Some do it as a stepping stone into the industry, others do it for part-time work because it’s fun while they pursue other endeavors. I’d be lieing if I said that some of them are NOT hoes, but that goes with any corporate profession and any field for that matter. Some teachers sleep with other teachers (and principals), but they’re not labeled a “teaching hoe”. Some church going women f*ck and suck the pastor and other clergy members off, but the term “church hoe” isn’t popular. Basically, the term “video hoe” comes from the stigma based on these women’s sex appeal, but in reality, like any other profession, the majority of them are not hoes, but society has branded them with the title nevertheless. Cast stones if you want.

*Paris Hilton – For some reason, I believe people when they say she just “plays” the dumb blonde, but she’s really pretty darn sharp.

*Hip Hop – As much as a bad rap (pun) hip hop gets, I couldn’t imagine my life without it. No disrespect to other genres, but they’re just not Hip Hop. I Love Her.

*Detroit – My hometown has been the butt of many jokes and with we’re in desparate need of good PR people. I just got back from there though and I must say that although the city can use a great make-over, the history and the impact of its people is truly priceless.

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306 Cheekie July 13, 2009 at 1:30 pm

@Monk,

“*Paris Hilton – For some reason, I believe people when they say she just “plays” the dumb blonde, but she’s really pretty darn sharp.”

Yeah, she’s definitely smarter than her pseudo baby voice leads one to believe. I remember when she was first blowing up, she used to go way too extreme by asking silly questions like, “Walmart? Don’t they make walls?” and I’m all, “Bish, stop playin’, no one is that far removed from reality that they don’t know about the hugest corp in the universe”. She used to play that cutesy dumb role a whole lot when she was younger, but I actually think she’s matured a bit. She seems to be able to make fun of herself, too, which I can respect.

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307 Omar July 13, 2009 at 5:12 pm

@Monk, “No disrespect to other genres, but they’re just not Hip Hop. I Love Her.”

I used to…

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308 SaneN85 July 13, 2009 at 1:58 pm

I’m gonna go ahead and add “white people’s shows” to this list. I don’t care, The Office is highlarious and nobody is going to tell me otherwise.

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309 miss t-lee July 13, 2009 at 2:04 pm

@SaneN85,
I don’t see how anyone could hate on the Office.
It’s hilarious!

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310 Dom July 13, 2009 at 2:54 pm

@SaneN85,

Add “How I Met Your Mother” to that list, and you’ve got yourself a co-signer! I love Neal Patrci Harris. He’s (wait for it, wait for it) AWESOME!

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311 Stuff Ghetto People Like July 13, 2009 at 3:22 pm

@Dom, one has to thirdly add Two And A Half Men, and that would be my list.

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312 Omar July 13, 2009 at 5:09 pm

@SaneN85, If we talking about good white shows the most underrated one was ‘Arrested Development’.

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313 Wood July 13, 2009 at 3:07 pm

As a Black Republican, I’d like to say I’m happy to see all the open mindedness in the building. Thank you. I can finally take off my Democrat costume and be free.

And since when have porn stars become so popular that you can mention ones name and everybody in here knows who they are.
They are like real life movie stars now. It’s crazy.

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314 puff July 13, 2009 at 4:11 pm

i just met her. she’s cool and shyt. i definitely respect her business hustle, if nothing else.

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315 OrangeStar616 July 13, 2009 at 5:01 pm

I gotta say some things should be frowned upon, you know, things like ignorance, greed, lack of integrity be it artistic or just the everyday brand, whoring oneself out for a dollar- be it under the guise of modeling or straight porn stars etc etc etc

One must be careful what one deems as acceptable thus appropriate, when EVERYTHING gets a pass, its gets internalized to a degree and right past whateva moral compass you may or may not have………….

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316 charli skipper July 14, 2009 at 4:07 pm

oh snap. why am i just seeing these formatting instructions? hmmm. i needs to go try this out on an old post.

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