Sweetmeat.
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People say that what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas. And I wholeheartedly agree with that statement.
I’ve been to Vegas.
Well, I also think that same logic applies to jail. What happens in jail stays in jail unless you were shanked by somebody, in which case the statute of limitations on returning the favor is pretty much unlimited.
However, given the circumstances of those men who are placed in jail for extremely long sentences, a question becomes evident to me:
Is it acceptable for a man to be gay in jail?
Umm…not that there’s anything wrong with that.
Think about this: people need personal interaction to live in this world. I don’t care how much of a loner you are; we all need some skin-on-skin action in our lives. That’s what prostitutes are for, to provide a service when you can’t get any skin-on-skin action from anywhere else. Much like video h*es, prostitutes don’t get enough credit for the service they provide to humanity.
Why would this change in jail? Especially when you have to spend years in a place where the only female might be a prison guard who is only sleeping with the death row inmates.
[***DISCLAIMER: Before we go any further, let me clear few things up. I'm not gay, nor do I live a gay lifestyle...not that there's anything wrong with living a gay lifestyle. I'm not even a metro-sexual. In fact, I'm still confused as to what a metro-sexual means since my take means almost gay, just doesn't know it yet. Once again, not that there's anything wrong with that. I have no problem with gay people, gay marriage, pink, flamingos, or John Legend. Nor do I plan on going to jail. I just think it’s an interesting topic. ***]
Of course, the other side of the game is this — what happens when he gets out? Would it be okay if he was gay in jail for, say, 7 years, and then wasn’t gay when he got out? Now, this is in direct conflict with the notion that people are born gay. Then again, jail is in direct conflict with the notion of a mixed genitalia world.
And what with EVERY woman thinking that EVERY man is either gay, gay-curious, or just DL anyway, the thought that its acceptable to say a black man can be gay in jail and come home and be un-gay might make me eligible to be incinerated at a Ponderosa Steak House — which is similar to being burned at a stake, only not at all.
But back to the point, is it even possible for a man to be gay in jail and actually come back out and live a heterosexual life? From a “desire” standpoint? I have no clue. And maybe that is where the answer lies. But…Donnie McClurkin was gay and he turned his life around.
Hmm…that was a judgmental statement that assumed that being gay means your life isn’t going in the right direction being as we only use the term “turned your life around” when referring to any negativity that you pursued prior. I mean when was the last time you heard somebody say, “wow, that Jim sure turned his life around” in reference to somebody going from being a God-fearing Christian to a Satan worshiping cat-screwer?
So, let me rephrase. Donnie McClurkin became — un-gay.
Do we believe that a gay man can become un-gay and not lust after the pleasures of the manflesh?
Like I said, I don’t know the answer.
However, for sake of argument, and assuming that a man could become ungay after leaving jail, assuming also that he would be eligible for parole at some point during his prison sentence, but not before at least 5 years…
…is it acceptable for a man to be gay in prison?
And to throw fuel on the fire, would you (women out there) date a man if you knew he was “prison gay”?
-VSB P aka THE ARSONIST
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to me, gay is a state of mind. so when a guy goes and f*cks other dudes in the can, i look at it as he had no other choice. when he comes out and f*cks women again, he’s just going back to his nature. you have to work with what you’ve got.
i wouldn’t want to date a guy who was “prison gay” because he’s probably got a higher risk of some STI. that would also be one hell of an awkward discussion… “soo umm who was your last partner…”
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Luvvie {August 13th, 2008 at 1:38 am}
“so when a guy goes and f*cks other dudes in the can, i look at it as he had no other choice.”
I beg to differ. Lefty & Righty are ALWAYS choices. If he gets creative, he could become a janitor so he’d have access to the prison vacuum cleaner. As Tim Gunn says, he could “Make it Work”.
P.S. Tim Gunn is one of my FAVE gays. I heart him.
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Alicia {August 13th, 2008 at 8:54 am}
Tim Gunn is AWESOME…”Holla at cha boy”:–season 5’s new catch phrase.
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ForReal {August 13th, 2008 at 9:45 am}
I love me some Tim Gunn too
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Dom {August 13th, 2008 at 11:11 am}
Glad to see Im not the only one waiting for tonight at 9!
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The Comeback Girl {August 13th, 2008 at 8:39 am}
I went to a catholic highschool (which could also be seen as a form of prison) and we had to take this class (when a few girls were coming up pregnant and being shipped away from “general population” to “pregnant school”.
The class was rather controversial for a catholic school. like sex ed on steroids. But in the beginning the class focused on sublimation.
This should be a prison requirement. If you have sexual urges: read a dam#n book, write a dam#n book,pray to Allah/God/Buddah, get a degree, make sandwich…the list goes on and on.
…but do not put your thag in ANY man’s Orifice.
Now if you are gay (and they should have to take a test). Please don’t ask me about the test. But it would be written by: The queer eye for the straight guys, Dolce and Gabana, Michael Kors, Ru Paul, and Neil Patrick Harris. And should they score 60% or better they go to special population.
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A Plus {August 13th, 2008 at 11:25 am}
wait? neil patrick harris is gay??
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The Champ {August 13th, 2008 at 11:31 am}
“wait? neil patrick harris is gay??”
you’re kidding, right? he’s gayer than christmas morning
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miss t-lee {August 13th, 2008 at 11:39 am}
He’s been gay…
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Luvvie {August 13th, 2008 at 9:56 pm}
There are rainbows who think Neil Patrick Harris needs to “man up”
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LeCyran0 {August 13th, 2008 at 12:05 pm}
Neil Patrick Harris was outed in the late 90’s by Perez Hilton i think. and he’s been in a monogomous relationship for the past 4 years. I think he’s in the lateste issue of Out magazine.
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Luvvie {August 13th, 2008 at 1:58 pm}
I was watching Sesame Street yesterday, and Doogie was on there playing a SINGING SHOE FAIRY. I kid you not. On my mama!
The shoe CLEARLY fit, and he put it on.
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Deviant {August 13th, 2008 at 5:25 pm}
he was funny in the Harold n Kumar movies
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Wow. Prison Gay? That’s new.
Yeahhhh. As much as I love Donnie, I don’t think I would really be itchin to go down the formerly gay path. That would take a very strong woman, and I am not so sure that woman is me? lol.
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miss t-lee {August 13th, 2008 at 8:34 am}
“That would take a very strong woman, and I am not so sure that woman is me”
I totally agree. I know the woman is not me. lol
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The Champ {August 13th, 2008 at 9:03 am}
‘Wow. Prison Gay? That’s new.”
lol, i’m still mad p titled the entry “sweetmeat”
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Leila {August 13th, 2008 at 9:27 am}
i’m still mad p titled the entry “sweetmeat”’
LOL
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Panama Jackson {August 13th, 2008 at 10:27 am}
LOL…i got that title from a Dolemite movie, Disco Godfather. One of the dudes in the movie’s name was Sweetmeat.
Just seemed appropos for today’s topic.
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miss t-lee {August 13th, 2008 at 10:43 am}
Wow…I haven’t seen that movie in years…lol
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Ummm….prison. man. + life = gay.
No, I dunno…here’s a question for you Panama; if you had life in prison and not a chance of seeing the the cold but enjoyable world again would you just masturbate and dream happy pornographic thoughts or how would you manage?
I think the men try to stay sane, but life….that’s hard rocks.
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The Champ {August 13th, 2008 at 9:06 am}
“but life….that’s hard rocks.”
exactly
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Panama Jackson {August 13th, 2008 at 10:28 am}
Count me in the “hand-le it myself system”.
Then again, i’m lightskint, skinny, and cute…its best for me to stay as far away from prison as possible.
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The Queen {August 13th, 2008 at 11:05 am}
LMAO that you just called yourself cute.
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Panama Jackson {August 13th, 2008 at 11:59 am}
“it’s called esteem of my mothersmurfin’ self”
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WuDaMan {August 13th, 2008 at 1:56 pm}
aaqaahahahahhaa
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GOODENess {August 13th, 2008 at 11:45 am}
Then again, i’m lightskint, skinny, and cute…its best for me to stay as far away from prison as possible.
calling yourself “cute” in prison will definitely have you holding some brotha’s pocket before you even get your inmate ID number!
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Panama Jackson {August 13th, 2008 at 11:58 am}
exactly my point.
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…is it acceptable for a man to be gay in prison?
If a man is gay in prison then he’s gay and there’s nothing wrong with. But, he can’t leave jail and just become hetereosexual. Its not a switch that you can turn on and off. I’m a woman and if I was sent to jail, then I would instantly turn celibate until my sentence was over. There’s no way that I would ever be with a woman just because I couldn’t be with a man.
And to throw fuel on the fire, would you (women out there) date a man if you knew he was “prison gay”?
Nope! Not happening. To me prison gay = gay. You can’t just be gay while you’re in prison.
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The Champ {August 13th, 2008 at 9:07 am}
“I’m a woman and if I was sent to jail, then I would instantly turn celibate until my sentence was over.”
what if your sentence never ended?
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shay {August 13th, 2008 at 10:20 am}
thats one of the things i would consider BEFORE i do some foolywang that’d get me put away indefinitely…
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Alise {August 13th, 2008 at 10:23 am}
‘foolywang’
kinda like tomfoolery huh? LOL
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Panama Jackson {August 13th, 2008 at 10:30 am}
you know, as much as i’d like to say “amen” to this…there have been WAY too many “mistakenly convicted and freed after 27 years” cats out there for me think i even really control this.
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miss t-lee {August 13th, 2008 at 10:49 am}
With the majority of them being in Dallas.
dayum shame.
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GOODENess {August 13th, 2008 at 11:46 am}
shay - “foolywang” my ni99a? you are definitely a TX representer…THANK YOU!!
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shay {August 13th, 2008 at 12:15 pm}
lol i would be glad to represent TX if i wasnt FROM BROOKLYN, NEW YORK. sorry, lol
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WuDaMan {August 13th, 2008 at 1:51 pm}
where you learn that one of the nake cowboy’s songs in time square? lol
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JBoogie {August 13th, 2008 at 12:38 pm}
foolywang…that’s my word for real right there!
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Not so sure I would be with an ex-con, period… (again)
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Leila {August 13th, 2008 at 1:09 am}
Good point!
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shay {August 13th, 2008 at 10:21 am}
hey, you would be surprised… i know people who haev been away for 10+ years and have adjusted so well you wouldnt know unless they told you… sheet happens.
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Alise {August 13th, 2008 at 10:26 am}
I’ve been with a ‘well adjusted’ “former state captive” and I figured it out without being told over time…. that is jsut not a piece of Samsonite I want to deal deal with, maybe the next chick, but not da kid!
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AroundHarlem.com {August 13th, 2008 at 10:45 pm}
LOL @ “former state captive”
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I am NOT sorry when I say Donnie McClurkin needs more people. Shoot, I think he needs the WHOLE million man march to verify that he is, in fact, UN-Gay (hmm…he would prolly like that).
Him & GAl Reynolds need to stop playing bald-headed games. How have you become a reformed hetero? Holy water aint THAT strong. Besides, although its easier said than done, I just wish people would embrace that part of themselves if that is the case.
Ok now that I’ve gotten that off my chest. I must say that one must expect that any man who has been in prison for a long period of time should be expected to have had some sexual contact with another man (whether willing or not). Shoot, murderers and rapists need love (i mean, SEX) too. Well, I’m sure the rapists helped themselves… *chuckles*
Umm… where was I going with this? Eh, I don’t remember.
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The Champ {August 13th, 2008 at 9:08 am}
“Shoot, I think he needs the WHOLE million man march to verify that he is, in fact, UN-Gay (hmm…he would prolly like that).”
**chuckling**
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I don’t think becoming an “ungay” like Donnie and ninjas that hit it in jail are the same thing and then are we talking about ninjas taking or giving it cause once you have been penetrated there is no coming back from that! On A side note f*Ck donnie! oh and I wouldnt date an ungay or jail gay
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Luvvie {August 13th, 2008 at 1:34 am}
Well the po’ souls that were forcefully penetrated need a “Pass Go & Collect $200″ Pass. They can’t be deemed “gay” now b/c they couldn’t fight off Bubba or Tiny (who is ironically huge).
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YAY for my shirt quote being voted on!!!! “I am an asshole and I’m okay with that”.
*shucks and jives in glee*
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genius khan {August 13th, 2008 at 8:02 am}
Luvvie me too…
“i’m an asshole and i ‘m ok with that.”
salute!
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“Donnie McClurkin became — un-gay.”
Lies always make me giggle!
Ahem, anyway, what is up with the lack of gay male commenters on VSB? Panama, you ain’t tell your Morehouse friends you had a website? ZING! BAM! BOOM! Hi-YO! HUZZAH!
I don’t so much see myself with a man who was incarcerated for more than a brief, BRIEF spell over something like a protest gone awry (though singer Steph Jones was in a French jail for a while longer and I want to have so many babies for him). And part of the reason for that would be the post-traumatic stress syndrome that would occur and CLEARLY someone who ended up in a “gay whilst away” situation would have that problem. I also wouldn’t date a man who fought in Iraq. Shoot, being Black In America is problematic enough.
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Luvvie {August 13th, 2008 at 1:36 am}
“ZING! BAM! BOOM! Hi-YO! HUZZAH!”
Ok I CACKLED at your bootleg sound effects. I immediately pictured the old Batman & Robin cartoon. “KABLAMO!! POW!!”
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Luvvie {August 13th, 2008 at 1:41 am}
“I also wouldn’t date a man who fought in Iraq.”
Shoot, why go all the way to Iraq. I’d BARELY date a guy from ATL. Unless he got references and I can do a background check that he ain’t been creeping w/ another meatpacker.
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V.E.G. {August 14th, 2008 at 12:03 am}
Add DC to that list…
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genius khan {August 13th, 2008 at 8:16 am}
Sister Toldus:
“And part of the reason for that would be the post-traumatic stress syndrome that would occur and CLEARLY someone who ended up in a “gay whilst away” situation would have that problem. I also wouldn’t date a man who fought in Iraq.”
so if you (Sister Toldya) suffered from post traumatic stress syndrome of any kind for any reason:
would u consider urself undateable for a person of ur current standard status etc.???????
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Sister Toldja {August 13th, 2008 at 10:30 am}
I would date a man who had PSTD from other issues (getting shot, assaulted, witnessing a killing, etc) but I think a prisoner who had served significant time would have probably experienced more than I could handle. And WHAT WAS HE DOIN IN JAIL IN THE FIRST PLACE? Mumia is a political prisoner, most n*ggas are not.
And my Iraq thing is as much a fear of war-induced PTSD as it is my pacificsm and disagreement with fighting for the USA.
So, to answer your question: if I went to jail or Iraq, yes, I would be undateable by MY current standard lol.
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The Champ {August 13th, 2008 at 10:59 am}
“Mumia is a political prisoner, most n*ggas are not.”
not to be excessively nitpicky, but mumia isnt a political prisoner.
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Sister Toldja {August 13th, 2008 at 11:43 am}
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEANT!
And, actually, wouldn’t we say that the fact that his conviction has not yet been overturned (despite a glut of evidence proving that he is innocent) is political? Whatever, you know what I meant!
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The Champ {August 13th, 2008 at 12:16 pm}
“Whatever, you know what I meant!”
lol…point taken, sister t
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miss t-lee {August 13th, 2008 at 8:37 am}
Ahem, anyway, what is up with the lack of gay male commenters on VSB? Panama, you ain’t tell your Morehouse friends you had a website? ZING! BAM! BOOM! Hi-YO! HUZZAH!
Holy ish…lol!!!!
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WuDaMan {August 13th, 2008 at 8:59 am}
hey sister toldja check it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DONNIE_MCCLURKIN
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Sister Toldja {August 13th, 2008 at 10:33 am}
Wu, I know what he SAYS. But I also don’t believe that homosexuality is 1) a disease or 2) “cureable”. I think he is a big old closet queen hiding himself amongst the shoeboxes and moth balls so he can get paid and hold his position in his church. A lot of self-hatred in that one.
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WuDaMan {August 13th, 2008 at 11:17 am}
So your saying he sold out on homocecsuality. To each their own. I wouldn’t put him in any diffrent a box as say a light skinned and darksined couple then.
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Sister Toldja {August 13th, 2008 at 11:44 am}
Huh?
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WuDaMan {August 13th, 2008 at 12:22 pm}
Follow me. Acknowledging the addage learn to love yourself first then learn to love someone else. Psychologically speaking should you choose someone diffrent from yourself would signify that the difference is what you would change about yourself. What you hate about yourself. i.e. we both got skin mine is dark yours is light I wish my skin were lighter you wish your skin were darker. Self Hatred
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Panama Jackson {August 13th, 2008 at 10:32 am}
“Ahem, anyway, what is up with the lack of gay male commenters on VSB? Panama, you ain’t tell your Morehouse friends you had a website? ZING! BAM! BOOM! Hi-YO! HUZZAH!”
i told them, but they’re too busy making Howard chicks their concubines and secretaries while they run the world and marry Spelman women.
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Sister Toldja {August 13th, 2008 at 10:34 am}
I think you mean making Howard MEN their concubines while marrying Spelman women.
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Panama Jackson {August 13th, 2008 at 10:57 am}
at least you admit that most men at Howard are on some “broken-wrist-syndrome”. glad you finally admitted that.
i guess the main point is, whether in the world or the bedroom, seems like Howard folks are constantly taking it up the poo-chute.
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The Champ {August 13th, 2008 at 11:01 am}
“i guess the main point is, whether in the world or the bedroom, seems like Howard folks are constantly taking it up the poo-chute.”
oh wow, lol. damn
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Sister Toldja {August 13th, 2008 at 11:46 am}
Man please. Y’all just mad because your two schools combined do not equal our one.
And I have never held back on commenting on the many closet cases at Howard University. As a loyal f*g hag, it breaks my heart. Come out and play with me, boys!
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Panama Jackson {August 13th, 2008 at 12:03 pm}
“Man please. Y’all just mad because your two schools combined do not equal our one.”
that’s the best comeback you got? boooooooooooo.
i’m disappointed in you. you embarrass me. you embarrass yourself.
A Plus {August 13th, 2008 at 11:32 am}
LMAO! Exactly!
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kamakula {August 13th, 2008 at 10:37 am}
I’m not a gay male commenter, but I’m not going to comment on this topic or any similar because pretty much the universal consensus here is:
If you’ve ever done anything that could be considered “gay”, you are gay - from then till eternity.
So, what’s the point of saying anything contrary?
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The Queen {August 13th, 2008 at 11:08 am}
“If you’ve ever done anything that could be considered “gay”, you are gay - from then till eternity.
So, what’s the point of saying anything contrary?”
Your statement kind of reminds me of how the established rule is if you have one drop of black blood you are black.
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Monk {August 13th, 2008 at 9:06 pm}
Sister Toldja, I respect where you’re coming from. You should definitely have your standards. By all means, stick to your guns.
Just don’t complain when you limit your own pool of good brothas.
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instead of jail gay how about circumstancial gay?
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The Champ {August 13th, 2008 at 9:11 am}
what do you mean?
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alright. so here’s ur gay male commenter. and NO i do not go to morehouse. ;P
now that the disclaimer is out of the way… onto the topic at hand:
way i see it if u weren’t creeping with other dudes before u got in jail, it doesn’t matter what happens in jail, chances are ur not gay. stuff happens. stuff happens when any group is in close quarters for extended periods of time (i.e. summer camp, boarding school). stuff happens when boys cant keep it in their pants and learn some self-control . and in today’s sex obsessed culture it just isn’t that far of a leap to see guys not knowing how to shut it down when they’re in the pen.
now if he wasn’t gay before he went to prison i’d say there’s a decent chance that he’ll never smoke sausage again if that’s not what he wants. now it’ll probably take him some time to readjust… but he should be alright if he knows that that’s not something he wants to continue doing.
lastly, personally i dont think i would date a guy who was prison gay. if it took incarceration for somebody to admit they’re gay chances are they’re not gonna be my type.
LeCyran0
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LeCyran0 {August 13th, 2008 at 2:31 am}
and i almost forgot. all this Donnie McClurkin mess about “change”? complete bullshit. as someone who’s been there, done that and knows others who’ve tried i can tell u right now that even if Donnie does not have sex with men (and that’s a big if) i can guarantee u he still enjoys the male form more than the female. u can modify ur behaviors all u want. u can watch more NFL, dress differently, hang around more “masculine” guys. and u may be able to lessen the desire, but at the end of the day when given a sausage and a taco ur instinctual preference is gonna be for the sausage no matter how hard u try to “pray the gay away.”
so if a prison gay comes out and starts having some serious dobuts about which team he plays for u probably need to give him some space. but if he was str8 when he went in chances are he’ll be str8 when he gets out.
LeCyran0
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The Champ {August 13th, 2008 at 9:15 am}
“but at the end of the day when given a sausage and a taco ur instinctual preference is gonna be for the sausage no matter how hard u try to “pray the gay away.””
this is very, ummm, descriptive. thanks for stopping through and sharing
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Sister Toldja {August 13th, 2008 at 10:37 am}
HELLO WORLD! Thank you! Shoot, Wesley Snipes is more likely to pray his Black away than Miss Donnie losing his gay.
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Intellectual Hedonist {August 13th, 2008 at 1:58 pm}
“pray the gay away.”
This is hysterical, something my pastor and my dad would say
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Luvvie {August 13th, 2008 at 11:09 pm}
Welcome LeCyrano!! Glad to hear your point of view. And THANK YOU! Donnie is full of ISH!
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miss t-lee {August 13th, 2008 at 8:41 am}
Thanks for breaking that down.
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ForReal {August 13th, 2008 at 9:51 am}
Good points LeCyrano.
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To me, there’s no such thing as “prison gay” WTH… I know I couldn’t get past the fact that a guy was another guy’s B!tch! The whole DL phenomenon is enough, please don’t add “prison gay” to the mix.
The way I see, if mofos would use their God given sense they wouldn’t be in jail in the first place.
But if you do end up in the can on some bullish, then just try your best to protect your booty-hole and say your prayers EVERY night!! lol
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The Champ {August 13th, 2008 at 9:18 am}
“The way I see, if mofos would use their God given sense they wouldn’t be in jail in the first place.”
****Proverbs 20:3****
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The Queen {August 13th, 2008 at 11:10 am}
Champ, I almost looked up Proverbs 20:3 thinking this was the comment of a biblical scholar…then I realized you were the one that left the comment. lol I had my desk bible out and everything.
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Panama Jackson {August 13th, 2008 at 12:04 pm}
so does that mean you didn’t look it up anyway? like all of a sudden b/c its the champ you decided that you shouldn’t find out what it was despite having your bible out?
the children have lost their way.
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The Champ {August 13th, 2008 at 12:19 pm}
…and whose to say that i’m NOT a bible scholar????
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The Queen {August 13th, 2008 at 3:54 pm}
Are you both challenging me? This seems somewhat like a challenge…I’m a lover, not a fighter.
Alright Panama and Champ…here you go. And the only reason I’m posting the verse is because it is fitting of you both with yall of your challenging my bible-researchingnessstuff. lol
Proverbs 20:3 - Avoiding a quarrel is honorable. After all, any stubborn fool can start a fight.
PS-yes, I put the Bible away when I saw it was Champ. Champ, you could be a bible scholar…if so, please let me know and I will start reading all the verses you write.
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Intellectual Hedonist {August 13th, 2008 at 2:02 pm}
I always look up whatever scripture quotes you leave, if anything just to see if you are BS’n.
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Elle_6 {August 13th, 2008 at 3:44 pm}
I have never literally spit anything out from reading something in my entire n*gganet career. Thank you.
LMAO!
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Leila {August 13th, 2008 at 9:32 am}
‘The whole DL phenomenon is enough, please don’t add “prison gay” to the mix’
Right!
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kamakula {August 13th, 2008 at 10:39 am}
Yeah, if the mofos would just hide whenever they saw anyone remotely looking like police regardless of whether they’d ever committed a crime in their life, they wouldn’t be in jail in the first place.
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The Comeback Girl {August 13th, 2008 at 10:51 am}
“Yeah, if the mofos would just hide whenever they saw anyone remotely looking like police regardless of whether they’d ever committed a crime in their life, they wouldn’t be in jail in the first place.”
That’s true…
but sometimes theres that pesky nuleic acid thing (DNA) containing stuff that can incriminate (or free you)..
other than that..yeah hide like a mofo.
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A Plus {August 13th, 2008 at 11:36 am}
i have a problem with the whole “DL” terminology, but that could be a post itself.
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The Champ {August 13th, 2008 at 12:22 pm}
“i have a problem with the whole “DL” terminology, but that could be a post itself.”
expound please
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A Plus {August 13th, 2008 at 12:30 pm}
basically i hate the term. if a ninja is gay, he’s gay, and if you can’t see that, then your either kidding yourself or need to get your gaydar readjusted. i really hate how someone wrote a book, coined that term, now it’s treated like another epidemic that single black females have to face. i just have a lot of strong feelings, or maybe their annoyances, about the whole “DL” thing, and my lunchbreak is almost over. i think you should write a post about it
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JBoogie {August 13th, 2008 at 12:44 pm}
DL=in the closet…dl is a bs term coined by a man that refused to just call himself what he is…homosexual…
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kj {August 13th, 2008 at 12:51 pm}
JL King just did a signing for his new book last weekend at the borders in Silver Spring…he’s still benefitting from the DL hype 4 sure.
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jail gays are using a homosexual act to satisfy a heterosexual need. Donnie claims to be completely cured of “gay”. I find this hard to believe. I can almost believe that he is satisfying a homosexual need with heterosexual act but Donnie is still bending over backwards for the gays… literally
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The Champ {August 13th, 2008 at 9:20 am}
“jail gays are using a homosexual act to satisfy a heterosexual need”
i’d substitute “heterosexual” with “human” and “need” with “want”
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shay-d-lady {August 13th, 2008 at 2:43 pm}
I think physical contact is a need not a want.
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The Queen {August 13th, 2008 at 3:57 pm}
Physical contact and sexual relations are different. I have to agree with Champ. Sexual acts are wants, desires. If they were needs, we would come out of the womb humping and die trying. (I hope to die trying.)
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shay-d-lady {August 13th, 2008 at 9:44 pm}
The whole existence of life is based on the need to procreate which is a direct result of sexual intercourse. While we do have mind over body and can control these urges there is a physiological need for sex. Maslow’s hierarchy lists the needs most important to survival as Breathing, Drinking, Eating, Excretion and Sex. So while those other needs are primary; sex is critical to survival thus making it a need.
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JBoogie {August 13th, 2008 at 9:26 am}
Nah, I’ve heard through the grapevine Donnie ain’t become “magically straight”…that’s that lie that was told in order to sell his book and isht. He still is suspect, will always be suspect, and I wouldn’t touch him or any other “I used to be gay, but now I’m not” dude. Do y’all remember that one character on “The Shield”…the black cop who claimed he was reformed…but he still had the urges? That’s what I think of when I hear about/chat with dudes who claim it was “just a phase” or they “turned their lives around”.
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kj {August 13th, 2008 at 12:55 pm}
I can’t say whether he’s been transformed or not but it can certainly happen….”Jesus said, “With people it is impossible, but not with God; for all things are possible with God.”
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Luvvie {August 13th, 2008 at 11:26 pm}
Donnie is LYING like a RUG!!
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Greetings beautiful people….
My take on the situation is that if a man constantly has sex with other men in prison what makes anyone think that he will just stop that behavior once he is out of prison? In my opinion homosexuality is a lifestyle choice that is mostly influenced by environment. If a man is having sex with other men, then wouldn’t that make him gay regardless of the circumstances? Let’s say allegedly a straight man goes to prison and starts having sex with other men to satisfy his need for physical contact, eventually he will grow to enjoy that type of contact. If he found having sex with other men disgusting then he would stop. So with that being said, I don’t buy the whole “I only had sex with men because I was in prison argument.” There were homosexual tendencies before; it just took a particular circumstance to get it out.
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The Champ {August 13th, 2008 at 9:22 am}
“In my opinion homosexuality is a lifestyle choice that is mostly influenced by environment. If a man is having sex with other men, then wouldn’t that make him gay regardless of the circumstances?”
these sentences contradict each other, ms. muse.
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Muse {August 13th, 2008 at 9:28 am}
Gosh you know you are right. Hmmm…um blame it on the plane. Okay lookie here, if a man has sex with another man, it makes him gay or at least bisexual whether he’s in or out of prison. Damn my point is that I don’t think being “gay” is biological but more of a behaviorial trait that is strongly influenced by one’s environment.
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The Champ {August 13th, 2008 at 10:08 am}
“Okay lookie here, if a man has sex with another man, it makes him gay or at least bisexual whether he’s in or out of prison. Damn my point is that I don’t think being “gay” is biological but more of a behaviorial trait that is strongly influenced by one’s environment.”
you’re still contradicting yourself, lol. i guess that jet lag was pretty intense
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Luvvie {August 13th, 2008 at 11:27 pm}
TREATED!! lol
Ok, I shall go grow up now.
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Kitsune {August 13th, 2008 at 6:26 pm}
“…my point is that I don’t think being “gay” is biological but more of a behaviorial trait that is strongly influenced by one’s environment.”
I’ll try not to turn this into 9th grade science class but if I’m not mistaken, behavioral traits are traits that are genetically influenced (and genes are inheritable traits.) And since Genetics is a discipline of Biology (the study of living organisms in their environment), it’s contradictory to state that something is not biological, yet is a genetic trait. Biology and behavior are connected, to some extent.
Ask someone who is gay if they are by choice & I bet they’ll tell you no. To take it a step further, some would say that if they were capable of changing, they would. Not being gay would make the lives of many in our society a lot easier.
However…drunk girls playing grab a** & kissing each other in a bar are influenced by their environment for sure! (We call them “barsexuals”.)
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“the pleasures of the manflesh” <—FUNNY!
Remember back in the days when folks would iron everything? Folks would even go as far as taking their jeans to the dry cleaners to be pressed with that incredibly sharp crease. Well, if you don’t, trust me when I say this madness was rampant in the south. The effect of excessive pressing on one’s jeans resulted in a permanent crease, in fact two parallel, white creases. Clearly they were evidence of a life of Niagara starch abuse.
So to answer your question…once prison gay, always gay.
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The Champ {August 13th, 2008 at 9:24 am}
“Remember back in the days when folks would iron everything? Folks would even go as far as taking their jeans to the dry cleaners to be pressed with that incredibly sharp crease. Well, if you don’t, trust me when I say this madness was rampant in the south. The effect of excessive pressing on one’s jeans resulted in a permanent crease, in fact two parallel, white creases. Clearly they were evidence of a life of Niagara starch abuse.
So to answer your question…once prison gay, always gay.”
vsb.com: where seemingly inane yet surprisingly fitting analogies happen
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Monk {August 13th, 2008 at 9:09 pm}
Word.
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miss t-lee {August 13th, 2008 at 9:29 am}
“Remember back in the days when folks would iron everything? Folks would even go as far as taking their jeans to the dry cleaners to be pressed with that incredibly sharp crease. Well, if you don’t, trust me when I say this madness was rampant in the south. The effect of excessive pressing on one’s jeans resulted in a permanent crease, in fact two parallel, white creases. Clearly they were evidence of a life of Niagara starch abuse. ”
Back in the day? This ish is still going on…lol
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Panama Jackson {August 13th, 2008 at 10:36 am}
yeah it is. i remember doing this as well. took like 10 minutes to put my Dickies on because they were so starched.
that was a bad time for fashion. i blame my parents for not telling me that i looked like a damn fool.
i also blame jim jones.
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miss t-lee {August 13th, 2008 at 11:08 am}
“i also blame jim jones.”
Here you go again…lol
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WuDaMan {August 13th, 2008 at 1:47 pm}
drat and double drat @ jim jones
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WuDaMan {August 13th, 2008 at 2:15 pm}
I say we get an effigy jim jones pinyata for the vsb picnic union
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JBoogie {August 13th, 2008 at 12:45 pm}
OKAY…I still folks who take those jeans to the cleaners religiously!
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Kitsune {August 13th, 2008 at 6:41 pm}
“Remember back in the days when folks would iron everything? Folks would even go as far as taking their jeans to the dry cleaners to be pressed with that incredibly sharp crease.”
“back in the day” = still happening today in California
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Gay = Gay.
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The Champ {August 13th, 2008 at 9:24 am}
lol…you can call monk many things, but longwinded isn’t one of them
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Monk {August 13th, 2008 at 8:55 pm}
I love simplicity. lol.
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oops!!! i didn’t realize i’d type that word… many apologies…
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I would not date a guy who was gay in prison. I’m leary of any man that’s been in jail longer than two years because doesn’t temptation start to set in, which would make it easier to get with a man on the inside? I’d be too paranoid once he got out that it would be easier to catch an STD: Are they using condoms in prison? I don’t feel confident that he would be forthcoming with the information, “hey, in prison I knocked off a couple of men.” See, just too many questions for me. So rather than have to deal with doubt, I just try to stay away from inmates because you never know. …
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V Renee {August 13th, 2008 at 9:25 am}
For some reason I do not think condoms are offered in prison. I think they use the same thought process as schools do with $ex education - if we talk about it or acknowledge that $ex happens, we encourage it. I call bulls*t.
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Leila {August 13th, 2008 at 9:35 am}
That’s real BS. That’s the reason that STDs are spreading because people are not protecting themselves.
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ForReal {August 13th, 2008 at 9:56 am}
Exactly Leila. And it is true bullsh*t that there are no condoms readily available in prison.
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The Queen {August 13th, 2008 at 10:22 am}
There are no condoms available in prison because it’s against the rules for men to have sex there. It just happens anyway. Not saying they should be able to protect themselves but those are the rules.
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V Renee {August 13th, 2008 at 11:33 am}
Well the prison system should be aware that just because it’s the rule doesn’t mean that it will be followed. Hell, why are prisoners in jail - because they broke the rules/laws. So makes them think they will follow jail rules….what are they going to do, lock them up?!?!?!?! LOL
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The Champ {August 13th, 2008 at 12:24 pm}
“Hell, why are prisoners in jail - because they broke the rules/laws. So makes them think they will follow jail rules….what are they going to do, lock them up?!?!?!?! LOL”
lol…this made me LOL. you make a good point though…if cats can smuggle cigarettes in there i’m sure they can sneak a few condoms in as well
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The Queen {August 13th, 2008 at 3:59 pm}
I feel you. I only said that because I’ve been watching Locked Up recently and they aren’t supposed to have s$xual relations at all. A lot of places they aren’t even supposed to have p_o_r_n_o pics either.
I’m also guessing the dudes doing the raping want the raw sensation. lol Locked Up teaches you things.
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AroundHarlem.com {August 13th, 2008 at 10:58 pm}
LOL
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LOL @ Well the prison system should be aware that just because it’s the rule doesn’t mean that it will be followed. Hell, why are prisoners in jail - because they broke the rules/laws.
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The Champ {August 13th, 2008 at 9:25 am}
“I’d be too paranoid once he got out that it would be easier to catch an STD: Are they using condoms in prison?”
what if he was std free, would your opinions change?
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Nicki Sunshine {August 13th, 2008 at 10:00 am}
I’d have to say no, my opinion wouldn’t change… cause every time he went out with “the boys,” I’d also be paranoid…. is he hitting one of them???? And such and such.
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The Champ {August 13th, 2008 at 10:09 am}
“I’d have to say no, my opinion wouldn’t change… cause every time he went out with “the boys,” I’d also be paranoid…. is he hitting one of them???? And such and such.”
so is it a trust issue, or a “if he’s cheating on me, at least cheat on me with a woman” issue?
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Nicki Sunshine {August 13th, 2008 at 10:33 am}
Me being paranoid is the issue! If I’m in a relationship, the trust has to be there, or else I’m not in one. I’m perfectly okay being single, so I’m not the type that will take anything just to have a man. And cheating, to me, that’s the ultimate. I’m extremely faithful, to friends, boyfriends, family, whomever, so I expect the same….ALL situations.
Oh God… sidetrack, Maury’s on and I came home from work early… so sad, how the girls ALWAYS run off the stage. Anywho, back to the subject (with my short attention span)……
Anyway, it all goes back to my previous “I’m leary of any man that’s been in jail longer than two years because doesn’t temptation start to set in, which would make it easier to get with a man on the inside? ” I just need to be honest and say I don’t want to date a man that’s been in prison. It’s hard to admit that because everyone has a story and a reason and what God has for me is for me and so on and so forth…. but I’d be scared.
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malaika {August 14th, 2008 at 2:23 am}
I can’t lie if he’s been in jail that’s a big hell no cause I would be thinking did he get it while there and if you think the DL thing is bad there, it’s catching up in Kenya where it’s still a crime to be homosexual. Doesn’t mean that rich cats don’t buy their biatches apartments and cars and set them up with weekly allowances and all. Honestly though I’m one of those who would rather you cheat on me with a woman than with a man. If you do and I will take you on holiday in Kenya near the Somalia border and kick your a$$ into Somalia whatever happens to you there remains with the gunmen and the hawks.
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P wants to know:
“…is it acceptable for a man to be gay in prison?”
i’m not qualified to judge what’s acceptable for someone else who is not in my care. all i can say is if you were screwing a man or men or getting screwed by a man or men in prison, just leave me out of it.
i don’t need to hear about it. don’t disrespect me by any outward or discovered and leaked attraction for me. that’s ur business, not mine.
1st i’m not doing shit to get a prison bid. 2nd they’ll never take me alive. …
…but let’s say hypothetically i went and had to choose a way to deal with my sex drive in prison, it would be thru conjugal visits, female prison guards and winning gold in the beat meet. i’m a crafty sum beach so i figure i could successfully negotiate for any creature comforts and privileges.
here’s my take on those who CHOOSE to participate sexually with the same sex. it’s gay. …and that’s on u. i could care less just respect me. if u can’t figure out what that is then tread careful or find out what respecting me means in a perhaps traumatic fashion, risk taker, ledge walker… rape is a whole nother issue. i pity the prisoner/s.
i believe there are guys in prison who have never had homosexual relations. go figure.
P if u got a bid to do homey, be scrong. …and uhhh u may wont to cut those curly locks off ur head, u don’t want to look to cute.
and i aint laughing cause aint a dam thang funny.
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WuDaMan {August 13th, 2008 at 9:16 am}
“1st i’m not doing shit to get a prison bid. 2nd they’ll never take me alive. …”
Word up GK. And seeing as how hundreds of people’s cases have been overturned by dna evidence. I don’t trust the system. I just don’t.
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sisanda {August 13th, 2008 at 9:20 am}
“P if u got a bid to do homey, be scrong. …and uhhh u may wont to cut those curly locks off ur head, u don’t want to look to cute.
and i aint laughing cause aint a dam thang funny.” - that’s true man, that shit aint funny, it happens, but it aint funny.
(Genius’s statement reminds me of 25th Hour by Spike Lee man )
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The Champ {August 13th, 2008 at 9:26 am}
“winning gold in the beat meet”
LOL
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Alise {August 13th, 2008 at 11:18 am}
That MUST be a t-shirt!
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genius khan {August 13th, 2008 at 3:52 pm}
Alise u can wear the tee shirt that says:
“i won gold in the beat meet”
yep ima let u wear that. ima take a pass on that 1.
i might however don the tee shirt that says:
“i aint laughing cause aint a dam thang funny.”
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miss t-lee {August 13th, 2008 at 9:32 am}
“1st i’m not doing shit to get a prison bid. 2nd they’ll never take me alive. …”
I believe you on both counts.
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genius khan {August 13th, 2008 at 3:54 pm}
t-lee knows:
“1st i’m not doing shit to get a prison bid. 2nd they’ll never take me alive. …”
and i might take a few trying to capture me to the great bye and bye.
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Panama Jackson {August 13th, 2008 at 10:39 am}
“P if u got a bid to do homey, be scrong. …and uhhh u may wont to cut those curly locks off ur head, u don’t want to look to cute.”
who you tellin’. i’m probably the only dude who got scared straight at the thought of being lightskint and skinny in jail. they didn’t even have to put me on TV.
then i saw Oz and it just solidified it.
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Luvvie {August 13th, 2008 at 11:33 pm}
Yeah P. You’d get “Adebisi’ed” in a HEARTBEAT!
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It would only be considered gay if he had any other choice. Granted he could have beat off or used a warm rubber glove and a towel, but the orifice of another person is desired at some point.
They only do it to satisfy their physical need without actually having an emotional or mental need to be filled by that man.
The bigger question is, what do you consider the guys that rape in jail as a way of gaining power?
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Nicki Sunshine {August 13th, 2008 at 8:14 am}
I consider them sick bastards. Seriously though, I think of them as the same guys who would take it from a woman or a child. They need to be helped or castrated, not in any specific order, and that would depend on the person. They’re taking something sacred from one person in order to satisfy their own desire.
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The Champ {August 13th, 2008 at 9:28 am}
“The bigger question is, what do you consider the guys that rape in jail as a way of gaining power?”
from what i understand, prison rape has nothing to do with sex and everything to do with establishing and/or taking power.
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miss t-lee {August 13th, 2008 at 9:32 am}
Exactly…remember American Me?
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WuDaMan {August 13th, 2008 at 12:43 pm}
I have heard that rape is all about rage. If that rage is the result of a power gradient then so be it… The rape is about power.
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V.E.G. {August 14th, 2008 at 12:57 am}
No rape has anything to do with sex. It is always about power, control.
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The Comeback Girl {August 13th, 2008 at 9:37 am}
“The bigger question is, what do you consider the guys that rape in jail as a way of gaining power?”
I consider them to be gay men who used a horrific and SEXUAL act to dominate another man.
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The Queen {August 13th, 2008 at 10:24 am}
Regardless of the motive (power or sex), rape is rape.
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WuDaMan {August 13th, 2008 at 12:49 pm}
The bigger question is, what do you consider the guys that rape in jail as a way of gaining power?
I think that these acts came about from old school war. If your village gets taken over in war 1. your women got stole w/ the land and riches i.e. spoils of war. If there was a plan to occupy and keep some of the indiginous people. A dominance is needed to be established raping a man would signify that the men of the indiginous land are as women of the invading nation.
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Luvvie {August 13th, 2008 at 11:35 pm}
“The bigger question is, what do you consider the guys that rape in jail as a way of gaining power?”
Adebisi
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LMAO!!!
My friends and I were talking about this this very weekend;
***flashback music** my best male friend (bmf) was telling me about a female friend of his that inquired weather she should be “concerned” because her man (in jail) allowed his cell mate to pierce his man wand~ yes I said pierce, (let me say it agian so the Champ can once again cringe in his seat)
PIERCE HIS MAN WAND.
She actually wondered if this was GAY? myself and one of my closest girlfriends looked at my bmf and said in unison as if we were singing for the Mississippi Mass Choir, “she has to wonder?” that is the gayest thing I had ever heard, my girl even went as far to say, I couldn’t be with no man that was some other man’s “butch” (u=i) in jail and you know what I have to agree…
There are a multitude of things that I could not do, date a man who had done some time, I’m talking hard time, acquiring prison tats and all that. But especially after I know he has had male on male relations, “not that there’s anything wrong with that”, primarily because I wouldnt be able to do one of the public services that I do (which is donate blood every 8 weeks, and continue to be on the bone marrow list; more people of color need to do this btw).
So to anwswer your question, not that there’s anything wrong with that but “Hell to the mutther froggin NAW! could’nt do it…
man with man = gay action, your masculinity in question, you can never be taken seriously again!
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The Champ {August 13th, 2008 at 9:30 am}
“let me say it agian so the Champ can once again cringe in his seat”
smh, and you wonder why you’re not getting an invite to the bbq.
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Intellectual Hedonist {August 13th, 2008 at 2:09 pm}
I don’t need an invite… I know an insider that will get me in under my other assumed identity.
And I am not above crashing a BBQ anyway!
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d-weezy {August 13th, 2008 at 9:41 am}
How does that conversation come about? Say dawg, if you’re not busy after yard time, you think you could pierce my man wand?
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The Champ {August 13th, 2008 at 10:10 am}
“How does that conversation come about? Say dawg, if you’re not busy after yard time, you think you could pierce my man wand?”
LOL
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Sister Toldja {August 13th, 2008 at 10:54 am}
HE GOT A D*CK RING IN JAIL?????
HE WAS A TOP!
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Intellectual Hedonist {August 13th, 2008 at 2:07 pm}
no not a D*ck ring (in the traditional sense), I asked the same question. he got a piercing in the skin right beneath the urethra (imagining the Champ writhing). I was like HOLY MOTHER FROGGER!!!
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miss t-lee {August 13th, 2008 at 2:15 pm}
“got a piercing in the skin right beneath the urethra ”
‘da hell?!
Evidence of nothing better to do in the clink…
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genius khan {August 13th, 2008 at 4:03 pm}
t lee says:
Evidence of nothing better to do in the clink… [in or around the dong or gems piercing]
it’s not that boring. get a degree. read a book. teach an illeterate. write a screenplay. etc. etc. etc. them triggers just wanted to do that kinky schtick for kink reasons. they weren’t bored so much as terd burgling horndogs.
Panama Jackson {August 13th, 2008 at 10:41 am}
yeah, id like to know this too. that’s not some ordinary conversation that just organically comes up.
it almost has to start with, “so i heard about this gay pr0n the other day…”
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Luvvie {August 13th, 2008 at 11:37 pm}
“There are a multitude of things that I could not do, date a man who had done some time, I’m talking hard time, acquiring prison tats and all that. But especially after I know he has had male on male relations, “not that there’s anything wrong with that”, primarily because I wouldnt be able to do one of the public services that I do (which is donate blood every 8 weeks, and continue to be on the bone marrow list; more people of color need to do this btw).”
I’m digging this VERY practical concern.
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Good topic Panama. btw I have heard people say the phrase “they got all turned around” in reference to leaving behind a “good” mindset. “Keisha went to school had a good scholarship n errthang ‘got turned around’ w/ that…”
And I can’t wait to hear what these double standard having women have to say regarding this preguntas. I mean for real all the “I can see why guys like women” comments and “I’d do it one time but not consider being a ‘thesbian’” not that there’s anything wrong w/ that. And a guy is just supposed to accept that from you. Why is it that women aren’t ‘thesbian’ suspect/curious/dl? I think I know why they have no macncheesemo. They can be artsy fartsy lick em low n then go holla @ a bro n think nothin mo about it. This may be because there is a more than likely dynamic of more women in a community than men. Therefore some of them may not get ‘chose.’ And like Panama said errbody needs some affection sometimes. For real how often you see a manwhore on the corner? A chick can slob down another chick n the club on a particular night and it’s aight. A dude goes to club fed and as far as divulging any of those acts he may as well be dead.
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Nicki Sunshine {August 13th, 2008 at 8:31 am}
Personally, I think the same applies to woman on woman. I’ve never been tempted to “slob on a chick in the club.” HA! So I don’t understand that desire. To me, if you’ve done it once, whose to say you won’t do it again???? I think some men are ok with it because it fulfills a fantasy for them. This guy that I dated kept asking me to have a threesome and I wouldn’t do it….. we broke up!. Every man that I’ve ever known likes the thought, which leads me to think the majority want it. Please correct me if it’s not true (give me some hope!!!!)
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WuDaMan {August 13th, 2008 at 8:40 am}
Through wisdom (i.e. heeding to the lessons learned of others who have gone through said sityo) I shat that 3some desire out of my brain. I only think it even entered my brain because of precocious ceksual desires. I wanted to experience all sorts of women and couldn’t get to them all fast enough. Therefore a 3some would be efficient. But no, not for me. I have heard stories that lead me to believe that someone would get left out. Cuz porn n action flicks are fake contrary to popular belief.
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Nicki Sunshine {August 13th, 2008 at 10:05 am}
You restored my faith (a little: There’s one in MILLIONS!) Ha. Thank you for the small ray of hope. *smile* I was hoping that “precocious ceksual desires” leaves as men get older. But seeing as this man was 32, NOTSOMUCH!!!!
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kamakula {August 13th, 2008 at 10:48 am}
I don’t know why I’m doing this but. . .
When was the last time you purposefully burned yourself (assuming that happened as a child)?
I have no intention of ever sticking my finders inside the moving blades of a hedge trimmer, ramming a nail through my hand, or any host of things that have happened in the near or far past. Doing something once is not an indicator of whether it will be done again.
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This is exactly why I live my life just like the Lawyer on the “Boondocks” . . . except without the nightmares of being anally raped, singing Usher’s, “Burn”, in the middle of the street, and being married to a white woman!
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The Champ {August 13th, 2008 at 9:32 am}
“This is exactly why I live my life just like the Lawyer on the “Boondocks” . . . except without the nightmares of being anally raped, singing Usher’s, “Burn”, in the middle of the street, and being married to a white woman!”
**chuckling again**
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Luvvie {August 13th, 2008 at 11:38 pm}
That episode made me cry b/c I laughed so hard.
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“And to throw fuel on the fire, would you (women out there) date a man if you knew he was “prison gay”?”
I’m gonna hafta go with a big fat absolutely not (shouts to Deborah Cox). How am I gonna go behind all the kats you just got done with in the clink? For real?!
Jesus is forgiving, me on the other hand, not so much.
I also believe that you can turn around from the lifestyle, if that’s what you’re trying to do. I’ve seen it happen. Anything is possible.
I’m just not trying to hook up with you , after the fact.
PS: Love how you threw John Legend under the bus…lol
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V Renee {August 13th, 2008 at 9:33 am}
“I also believe that you can turn around from the lifestyle, if that’s what you’re trying to do. ”
- So you think that people can turn “un-gay”. Expound please!
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miss t-lee {August 13th, 2008 at 9:45 am}
I’m a Christian, and I do believe that you can be healed from any affliction. That includes homosexuality (if you see it as an affliction). I’ve seen it for myself. I have a homeboy who was living the lifestyle for more than a few years. About a year ago he chose to not live that way anymore and from then on out he has been celibate. He told me that he realizes that it’s wrong and he doesn’t want to live that way anymore. I support him on his decision. I would have supported him on any decision because we are friends and I didn’t care which way he went. So since I’ve seen it for myself I believe that it can happen.
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V Renee {August 13th, 2008 at 11:36 am}
So do you think the desire to be with men has gone away, or that he just suppresses the urges?
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miss t-lee {August 13th, 2008 at 11:56 am}
I’m not real sure.
I don’t know if it ever truly goes away.
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Luvvie {August 13th, 2008 at 11:41 pm}
“I do believe that you can be healed from any affliction. That includes homosexuality (if you see it as an affliction).”
I hate to think of homosexuality as an “affliction”. You talking bout it like its 3rd stage brain cancer. It’s pretty degrading to think someone’s attraction preference is a disease.
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V.E.G. {August 13th, 2008 at 11:55 pm}
I believe that for men, there are two types of gay:
Real gay (born that way) and prison gay. Real gay is gay and cannot be ‘healed’. (And…why would we want them to be healed? Life is short! Too damn short to repress yourself and live in a closet). Prison gay is based on circumstances. I think men can walk away from that life.
Now, for women, I think there are three types of homosexuality:
Real gay, gotta be gay for now (i.e. she’s in the pen doing an 8 year bid and Big Bertha is her cell mate) and bored/tired of men gay. But, that is another subject.
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The Champ {August 13th, 2008 at 9:34 am}
“Jesus is forgiving, me on the other hand, not so much.”
this reminds me of one of the lines in “machete”, one of the fake “grindhouse” trailers.
i have nothing else to add.
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Kitsune {August 14th, 2008 at 12:52 am}
“This reminds me of one of the lines in “machete”, one of the fake “grindhouse” trailers.”
The line was “God has mercy…I don’t.” Very impressive Champ!
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Panama Jackson {August 13th, 2008 at 10:43 am}
“PS: Love how you threw John Legend under the bus…lol”
he threw himself under the bus with his choice of haberdashery.
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miss t-lee {August 13th, 2008 at 10:57 am}
Dayum…all because of the clothes?
I was gonna go with his mannerisms, but I guess this could work…lol
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Luvvie {August 13th, 2008 at 11:41 pm}
Yeah I went to one of his concerts and his vest was an XS. Johnnie boy looked like he was gon pop a button.
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“Well the po’ souls that were forcefully penetrated need a “Pass Go & Collect $200″ Pass. They can’t be deemed “gay” now b/c they couldn’t fight off Bubba or Tiny (who is ironically huge).”
With any rule there’s always an exception, and in this case if say “po’ soul” was forcefully raped and he liked it, he would be deemed gay.
On another note if a woman was focefully raped and actually liked it after it was all said and done, would that be considered rape?
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miss t-lee {August 13th, 2008 at 8:40 am}
I’m sorry…I don’t think anyone male/female who is raped actually enjoys it….
Hence the name rape.
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Dorian G. {August 13th, 2008 at 8:48 am}
Lil’ Wayne does, he said it in his song.
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miss t-lee {August 13th, 2008 at 8:54 am}
I must have missed that track.
Which song?
I’m not a huge fan of his…lol
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Alicia {August 13th, 2008 at 9:25 am}
Maybe its A Milli…”And I’d rather be pushin flowers
Then to be in the penn sharin’ showers “
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Dorian G. {August 13th, 2008 at 9:51 am}
No its on “Got Money”.
I wear 8 chains, I mean so much ice
They yell “skate wayne”
She wanna f&ck weezy
She wanna rape wayne
….and I’m a let her…
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miss t-lee {August 13th, 2008 at 10:12 am}
Funny…I can’t make it throught that song because of T-Pain…lol
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Luvvie {August 13th, 2008 at 11:43 pm}
Using Lil Wayne as your voice of reason is like having Britney Spears teach you how to be a good parent.
STOP IT.
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shay {August 13th, 2008 at 10:33 am}
if you like it its not rape.
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kamakula {August 13th, 2008 at 10:52 am}
Umm. No.
Just so that we’re clear, rape is a sexual assault carried out against your will.
Whether you liked it, enjoyed it, called out for God three times, is irrelevant. It is still rape.
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miss t-lee {August 13th, 2008 at 10:55 am}
“Just so that we’re clear, rape is a sexual assault carried out against your will.
Whether you liked it, enjoyed it, called out for God three times, is irrelevant. It is still rape.”
Thank you.
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shay {August 13th, 2008 at 12:19 pm}
something about the words “assault” and “against your will” in your definition are making the potential for pleasure in it muddy for me, sorry.
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