PSA: Love or Something Like It

by Panama Jackson on February 18, 2009 · 294 comments

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Mad shots to the homie Maverick for providing quality blog fodder yesterday.  Also, let’s all lick shots for Big Poppa in Heaven.

*licking shots*

One day while out, I happened across a Barack Obama bobblehead doll, so you know I had to cop me one.

Here’s a picture:

photo1Only a Black President could have me putting random Negro look-a-like bobbleheads in front of my flat-screen.

The first thing you may notice about my Obama bobblehead is that it doesn’t actually look like Obama.  I mean its clearly supposed to be Obama, evidenced by him being Black, having a mole, and looking Presidential, but other than that, it’s a random Black cat with the word Obama written out on the bottom.  I really have to wonder how that happened.  I mean, clearly, Obama heads were commissioned and somebody made them – badly – and yet, here we are, with non-look-a-like Obama bobbleheads garnering as much as $29.99.  I guess that by the time they made it to the final approval they were lacking on time and the person who headed up the process was just like f*ck it, send them out.

And I bought one anyway.

Which brings me to my point.  I think people  (actually, I KNOW) that people often have love f*cked the f*ck up for something else.  The whole Chris Brown/Rihanna thing brings this to light for me.  I’m not going to dwell on that situation, the other blogs will do that for us, but it does highlight one of quite a few things that folks often misconstrue as love.

1)  Laying of the Hands – and not in the religious sense. Anytime somebody has to lay your a** out in order to show you that they love you, there’s clearly something wrong with them.  Hell, I still feel guilty for beating up my little sister when we were 10 and 7 respectively.  I actually feel sorry for women (and to a lesser extent men) who get caught up in relationships where they are so far gone that they think its okay for their man (or woman) to put hands on them on a whim.  (And I’d like to point out that though I missed that convo last week, if a woman approaches you like a man, and wants to act like a man, she is well within her rights to get treated like a man). Bottom line, they don’t love you if they have to thump you to show you.  They love beating you.  Sad, but true.

2)  On a lighter note, just because somebody spends mad dough on you does not mean that they love you. I’ve spent mad luchi on chicks I KNOW that I didn’t love before.  I was dumb.  Sue me.  If I could do it all over again, I’d buy every random chick a box of Thin Mints and a Shoebox card that says, “you’re great, pull my thumb.”  Money and love aren’t the same thing and shouldn’t be construed otherwise.  Some of the best loves were made of people of simple means.  Like Aladdin and Apu.  Aladdin was broke as the f*ck.  He had a whole song about being broke and what they had was real.  Real love like a 1991 hip-hop soul song.

3)  Somebody who only sees you on their schedule doesn’t really love you. I’ve said this before but I can’t stress this enough.  Main tenet of a good relationship?  Time.  But you know what’s number 2?  WILLFUL AND EXUBERANT INCONVENIENCE. When you really love somebody, you LOVE to go out of your way.  I wrote about this a long time ago using Chappelle’s show “Cambodian Breast Milk” as my lynchpin (that’s a strange word, no?).  Look sister, if your dude only wants to see you when he has “time”, he’s married with 2 children and only likes you because you do that thing with your tongue.  You know what I’m talking about.

And um, keep that up.  It’s probably the only way you’ll keep a man.  Don’t get mad, I’m only being real.

Oh, and this one’s important.

4)  Just because a person makes YOU feel better about yourself doesn’t mean that they love you. Now, it might help you to love them, but truth be told, unless you make them feel better about themselves too, they’re clealry just filling some hole (no pun intended) you were missing on the inside.  To them, you could just be any random person.  They could be your lucky charms, but to them, you might just be some low-fat, low-sugar, fiber-filled cereal.  And best believe, NOBODY likes that sh*t.  If they tell you they do, they’re lying and will put a hit out on your mother in 2 years.

And OF COURSE:

5)  Just because they give you that good sacklovin’, doesn’t mean they actually love you. It means they love to see you naked, and they’re good at naked games.  Love and sacklove should be treated as mutually exclusive.  Trust me.

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So good people of VSB, with as much relationships experiences as we all have and have observed, and as a PSA for love-struck f*ckups everywhere, what are some things that people get confused as love?

-VSB P aka THE ARSONIST aka TANGLE JIG P

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1 Ms. Hall February 18, 2009 at 1:54 am

OMG, I’m first!

Now let me read the post.

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Luvvie Reply:

@Ms. Hall,

Ok, see??

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Yaa Reply:

@Luvvie, LOL! At first I didnt see what the issue was and thought some of you all were being mean. But I feel you Luvvie….I feel ya.

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2 puff February 18, 2009 at 2:02 am

when a person tells/shows you, however subtly, who they really are, and you find that something in your gut tells you that they’re not right for you, believe it. you cannot change someone into the “right” person for you, whatever that may mean. and if the person gives you signs that they’re gonna mess up, take two and walk it out before it becomes too late and you end up extra salty at them/life in general. cos that’s just ugly and unfortunate.

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Lili Reply:

A lot of ppl ignore that gut feeling and delude themselves because they just want to have someone, anyone. Ppl invest in situations and people that aren’t right for them because they don’t want to be alone.

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Luvvie Reply:

@Lili,

***Faith Tabernacle Light of Christ in Jesus’ Holy Hug & Safekeeping C.O.G.I.C.***

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Candace Reply:

@Lili,
So true and it’s sad. It’s like we miss the red flags totally. I am going through that now. You can’t make someone be something they’re not. It won’t end up well. Good bedding doesn’t always make for a great future.

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Shelia (on the Invisible Love Tour) Reply:

@puff, I agree. Accept folks for what they are and not try to make them be what you want them to be.

Panama you were on point.

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Panama Jackson Reply:

@Shelia (on the Invisible Love Tour), thanks. i try to be pointed. lol.

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Nicki Sunshine Reply:

@puff, Very well said…. gotta go with the gut.

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The Champ Reply:

@Nicki Sunshine,

gotta go with the gut.

not always. sometimes, wait, actually most times your brain needs to override your gut

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Suga&Spice Reply:

@The Champ, Reminds me of a statement I read once before and now have posted up in my cube, ‘Never put your heart in your mind’s position.’

Nikiloveli Reply:

@The Champ,

Not so. There are a number of times when you feel a certain way, but there’s no logical reason for it. Every time I’ve felt that, yet reasoned it away, I’ve lived to regret it.

That said, the instinct that we call “gut” and the emotional center that we call “heart” are two different things. Your “heart” can lead you all kinds of wrong. Gut, not so much.

The Champ Reply:

@Nikiloveli,

cant agree with this. sh*t, we’ve just had eight years of a president who made decisions solely on his gut. to paraphrase rob gordon from “high fidelity”, some people’s guts have sh*t for brains

Luvvie Reply:

@The Champ,

“some people’s guts have sh*t for brains” – This is my new favorite quote

Nikiloveli Reply:

@The Champ,

Poor example. We wouldn’t have had it much better if he’d used his brain. I stand by what I said, but if you have neither brains nor gut then just sitchoazzdown.

YGB Reply:

@Nikiloveli,

I’m with you on this one coz instinct is neither mind nor heart. Instinct is just that part of a person’s being that gives them a message that both the mind and the heart sometimes miss. I believe it’s God’s way of trying to tell me something and there have been instances in the past that I didn’t listen and boy did I regret it!

pgh muse Reply:

@Nikiloveli,

I’m witchu on the whole mind, gut, heart argument. You can rationalize your way out of a blessing (your mind), and you can follow your emotions down the path of destruction, but I think that the gut, instinct, intuition, third eye vision or whateva we call it is god’s way of communicating with us. Each and everytime I’ve had a gut feeling about someone/something, it’s the only thing I should have listened to…

Nicki Sunshine Reply:

@The Champ, lol… let me rephrase… your educated gut.

Panama Jackson Reply:

@puff, yeah, i’m one of those people that always believes you’ll get signs that you should bounce on somebody. folks will tell you everything you need to know if you ask the right questions.

some folks just choose to fore go that knowledge and pay for it later.

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Yaa Reply:

@Panama Jackson, I used to have A LIST of things that were reasons to bounce LOL. AN ACTUAL HANDWRITTEN LIST!! And every time things didnt feel right and I got signs or had that gut feeling that MAYBE dude aint the one, I would always review my list. Finally I just stopped being so technical and started following my heart and like you said started seeing signs that its time to roll out!

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3 Shay-d-lady February 18, 2009 at 2:19 am

Great Post PJ… someone has gotten some sleep or either gotten use to no sleep and flying high of the V day love…either way good topic. I totally agree with you on this one. Especially about the they make you feel good but you must return the favor…love is selfless and reciprical (?) and none of the other bull shyt…

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Panama Jackson Reply:

@Shay-d-lady, actually, i’ve not gotten any sleep. i’m operating on zombie-status.

i’m auditioning to be an understudy in the remake of Michael Jackson’s Thriller video next week. and i don’t need makeup.

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Luvvie Reply:

@Panama Jackson,

And THAT visual may haunt my hopes, dreams and future goals

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4 Shay-d-lady February 18, 2009 at 2:21 am

Imma pass on that obamahead.. but Iwas going to get the progress tie died joint to post up but apparently that joint is no longer available due to legal problems…WTF? mo money mo problems…oh and also I love the Da Band chappelle skit… I love to be at work and walk into my team meetings like “thats it Imma shut the studio down” LOL

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osyeP Reply:

@Shay-d-lady, I think Im gonna try that in a meeting one day

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The Champ Reply:

@Shay-d-lady,

somebody needs to do a ranking of the all-time top chapelle show skits.

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Dom Reply:

@The Champ,

Maybe for Friday fun?

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The Champ Reply:

@Dom,

hmmm. good idea and sh*t

Panama Jackson Reply:

@Shay-d-lady, my obama bobblehead is the sh*t. for one, everybody notices it and comments on it. it’s a guaranteed convo starter, an ice-breaker. in fact, if you have a date with a new person coming up and you’re looking for a way to get a convo going, buy an Obamahead, put it on your dashboard and watch the good times roll.

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miss t-lee Reply:

@Panama Jackson,
Poppycock.

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Nikiloveli Reply:

@Panama Jackson,

There are plush Obama and Hillary dolls in the little toy grabbing machine at my local grocery store. I covet them badly, but I suck at that game. I also bought some hideous Obama/Michelle shell earrings.

It is my intention to collect all of the tackiest, strangest, most off the wall Obama memorabilia that I can find, then compile it into a coffee table book. Your bobblehead is up for review.

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5 ofloveandotherdemons February 18, 2009 at 2:38 am

It’s not love just because the other person says, “I love you.” This phrase is so over used , it has secured itself a lifetime pass in tritesville.
I believe it’s really hard to have a litmus test that proves that someone actually loves YOU. Sometimes the person does all the right things: quality time, exuberant inconvinience (love the phrase!!!) ish and says all the right things and all they are really in love with is the idea of being in love, not you per say. They had already made up their mind to fall in love, your a** just happened to be the first one they saw when they rounded that corner.
As long as both parties know the situation, neither one is holding onto higher expectations/dreams of the releationship than the other, and the happy times far outweigh the dark ones in the set up, than I’m all for living in the moment. Enjoy having someone there for the rollercoaster ride, no need to put labels on everything.

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Shelia (on the Invisible Love Tour) Reply:

@ofloveandotherdemons, “It’s not love just because the other person says, “I love you.”

So true…words without action are dead in my opinion. Show me the love and then maybe I’ll believe it when the man says those three words to me….otherwise, those three words are meanliness without the action behind it.

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miss t-lee Reply:

@Shelia (on the Invisible Love Tour),
Yes ma’am!!!

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Nikiloveli Reply:

@Shelia (on the Invisible Love Tour),

Speak! I keep tellin’ these cats. Love is a verb, not an emotion.

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Dom Reply:

@ofloveandotherdemons,

I love this… “As long as both parties know the situation, neither one is holding onto higher expectations/dreams of the relationship than the other, and the happy times far outweigh the dark ones in the set up, than I’m all for living in the moment.”

I think this pretty much sums up my thoughts on dating, relationships, etc etc. Its nice to just go with the flow sometimes. I think the hard part is actually knowing when to step it up and when to move on though. If the vibe is right then eventually you’ll want more.

I also have to wonder why people are so opposed to titles if everything else is going well? Regardless of what you call your relationship, its still a relationship!

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Me fail english? Reply:

@ofloveandotherdemons,

Amen. I’d like to piggyback on this (I really do hate that phrase) and add that crazy, desperate declarations of love like begging you back in front of co-workers, playing his radio high above his head and pointed toward your window, crying to your mom (I’ll let you guess which two of these happened to me) is not an indicator that this man loves you. In fact, it’s usually your first clue that he’s a disingenuous (I really do love that word), manipulative a$$hole. Not that there’s anything wrong with that…

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miss t-lee Reply:

@Me fail english?,
“playing his radio high above his head and pointed toward your window”

You didn’t like the movie Say Anything did you?
LOL

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SouthernGirl is at work. Reply:

@miss t-lee,

i love that movie and i loved that part! and i must say, lloyd was a bit strange but he had all the actions to back up the ‘in your eyes moment.’ now if a ninja ain’t doing sh!t and then just pops up with a radio raheem ghetto blaster outside my window we might have a problem.

miss t-lee Reply:

@SouthernGirl is at work.,
Lloyd Dobbler!!!! :)
I think he’s the only one who could get away with that.
EVER.

SouthernGirl Reply:

@miss t-lee,

i think you’re right. lol.

The Champ Reply:

@miss t-lee,

say anything is on my list of movies i want to see but, for whatever reason. havent been able to

miss t-lee Reply:

@The Champ,
You should. It’s a good late 80’s flick. Plus it’s funny.

SouthernGirl Reply:

@The Champ,

you MUST see this movie.

The Champ Reply:

duly noted

Nikiloveli Reply:

@Me fail english?,

Girl, I had a grown man and his mom show up at my choir practice. Creepy stalker tactics are not romantic.

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miss t-lee Reply:

@Nikiloveli,
This is a throat punch situation.

SouthernGirl Reply:

@Nikiloveli,

well damn! and his mama?!?!?!

Nikiloveli Reply:

@SouthernGirl,

Yep. It caused quite a stir. My pastor called her pastor, etc. Heeeee! How you gonna tell somebody’s pastor on them? That’s so wrong.

SouthernGirl Reply:

@Nikiloveli,

woooooooooooow.

Luvvie Reply:

@Me fail english?,

“it’s usually your first clue that he’s a disingenuous (I really do love that word), manipulative a$$hole. Not that there’s anything wrong with that…”

Actually, there IS something wrong w/ ALL of that. Ol’ Brain from Pinky & the Brain Face.

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ofloveandotherdemons Reply:

@Luvvie,
They’re Pinky and The Brain
Yes, Pinky and The Brain
One is a genius
The other’s insane.
They’re laboratory mice
Their genes have been spliced
They’re dinky
They’re Pinky and The Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain
Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain
Brain.

Before each night is done
Their plan will be unfurled
By the dawning of the sun
They’ll take over the world.

They’re Pinky and The Brain
Yes, Pinky and The Brain
Their twilight campaign
Is easy to explain.
To prove their mousey worth

They’ll overthrow the Earth
They’re dinky
They’re Pinky and The Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain
Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain

Good God, I loveeed the Animaniacs. Sigh!!!!

Nikiloveli Reply:

@ofloveandotherdemons,

That does it. I am totally coming over to braid your hair.

Me fail english? Reply:

@ofloveandotherdemons,
Lol! I’m so mad you typed out this entire thing!

Sula for the kids... Reply:

@ofloveandotherdemons,

And with that, you have sealed our sisterly bond.

That’s one of the greatest cartoons ever made. :)

Panama Jackson Reply:

@ofloveandotherdemons, good one. i told a random person i loved them just yesterday.

okay, no i didn’t.

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6 superwoman February 18, 2009 at 4:46 am

Look sister, if your dude only wants to see you when he has “time”, he’s married with 2 children and only likes you because you do that thing with your tongue. You know what I’m talking about.

And um, keep that up. It’s probably the only way you’ll keep a man. Don’t get mad, I’m only being real.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!! Champ, bathong!!!! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, i’m killed. oooh wee!

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The Champ Reply:

@superwoman,

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!! Champ, bathong!!!! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, i’m killed. oooh wee!

vsb.com: where seizures while typing happens

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7 Foreigner February 18, 2009 at 6:07 am

We got more educated, more independent, more socially aware of what’s politically correct, more permissive and open, all the right things we’ve always wanted. But relationships have gotten worse leaving successful people unhappy. Divorce rates are at their highest. What did we do wrong? Did we miss something?

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Monk Reply:

@Foreigner,
Yeah, we missed love.

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Foreigner Reply:

@Monk,
I think love must be one of the most misunderstood words of all time. I feel good about you is translated to I love you. Gone are the responsibilities that go to back the feeling.

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The Champ Reply:

@Foreigner,

its not just relationships, its across the board. generally speaking, the more worldly and educated a human becomes, the less likely we are to be happy, because education changes expectations.

i could expound for at least 500 more words, but i need to finish this pizza.

welcome and sh*t, btw

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Foreigner Reply:

@The Champ,
Thanks for having me Champ

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Princess Duvet aka "The Princess Has Spoken" Reply:

@The Champ,

“generally speaking, the more worldly and educated a human becomes, the less likely we are to be happy, because education changes expectations. ”

does it change expectations..or other people’s perceptions of the the expectation?

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Panama Jackson Reply:

@Foreigner, What did we do wrong? Did we miss something?

i think people read too much. with knowledge comes sorrow. lol. the most liberated people on earth realize that true happiness is difficult to find in other people. only problem with that is its a realization that usually happens in retrospect.

folks just ain’t happy enough individually. i truly believe that.

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Foreigner Reply:

@Panama Jackson,
You ever been in a bad relationship before?

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Panama Jackson Reply:

@Foreigner, of course. i’ve been in a few.

Me fail english? Reply:

@Foreigner,

I think that we got so smart that we tricked ourselves into believing we could control/change things that we clearly cannot. And “beat” trends that we never will. Eg. If you have Jay-Z’s face but Maino’s money you WILL NOT snag a Beyonce. People try to rationalize their way to defying nature and wind up missing their blessings. But some stuff just is what it is. Just relax and let God take the wheel.

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YGB Reply:

@Me fail english?,
Eg. If you have Jay-Z’s face but Maino’s money you WILL NOT snag a Beyonce

LMAO! Oh Dayum!
But this is true though

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Panama Jackson Reply:

@Me fail english?, what if it’s JayZ’s face, with Maino’s money AND Yung Berg’s chain?

i think that would definitely snag Beyonce.

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Me fail english? Reply:

@Panama Jackson,
You mean Trick Trick’s chain?

SouthernGirl Reply:

@Foreigner,

welcome!!!

*shooting gold stars*

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Foreigner Reply:

@SouthernGirl,

Thanks lady

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pgh muse Reply:

@Foreigner,
I think that this is because the more a person has, more money, more education, better clothes, better food, more status all that good stuff… they think that their shyt don’t stink and that it’s all about them…every man/woman becomes their own island. People used to HAVE to work together and get along… now people don’t. So nobody tries to.

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Foreigner Reply:

@pgh muse,
It’s great that people put in a lot of effort and sacrifice to succeed. That’s truly wonderful, but then when it comes to relationships they expect things to just work, like magic. Just imagine what would happen if you slept in just because you didn’t feel like waking up to go to work, or didn’t study just because you were tired. You’d be in s**t for sure. Same with relationships. The number one problem for relationships is infidelity. People just do what “feels” good with whomever and pay the price for it the hard way. Nobody says no to those subtle situations that gets us in trouble all the time. We’re getting educated and sharper in everything except restraint and good old common sense.

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pgh muse Reply:

@Foreigner, We’re getting educated and sharper in everything except restraint and good old common sense.

Amen.

Cheekie Reply:

@Foreigner,

Welcome, Foreigner! *flashes cheeks* (take that as you will)

“But relationships have gotten worse leaving successful people unhappy.”

I think despite all of this success, we’ve still failed at one of the most basic functions known to man: communication. Despite learning how to do it properly while growing up and/or taking gen-Ed courses on it in college, we’ve still managed to poop all on that when the heart gets involved. That heart is a trip!

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Yaa Reply:

@Cheekie, I think that the overall idea of what love and relationships are is a bit warped. I think we get out ideas from these fantasy ideas fed to us from movies, tv, etc. Relationships have to be built and that takes time. We want it instantly and when we cant have it that fast we move on to the next “good” thing. People dont want to take the time to invest in getting to know a person. Often its all about the fire and the physical and when that fire dies people are ready to leave. Everybody tosses around the word love like its a greeting. For me love is almost indescribable, its a connection between two people that are down for each other no matter what (somebody to wipe your ass or nose when you get sick kinda thing!) Its a totally unconditional thing. So personally, until I find that with a person I dont throw the word around. I tell my family that I love them because I mean it and its based on what I feel love is. Outside of that….I may have a STRONG LIKE or YEAH I AM REALLY FEELING YOU is all that I can give.

And this isnt an angry black woman comment lol (hate those!!). I am just getting older, wiser and about substance.

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Foreigner Reply:

@Yaa,

That’s some really true insight you’ve got there, but why do the majority of people have to wait to find out the hard way? Usually, people who find this truth about relationships only do so after very many years in the game, and that in itself presents new issues about finding mates, etc.

8 kmplx February 18, 2009 at 7:04 am

just cos their mom/granny/5 sisters/3 dogs loves you, doesn’t mean they do!
and just cos someone says it, doesn’t mean they do.
loves the post as usual. :)

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Monk Reply:

@kmplx,
I totally agree with this.

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Shelia (on the Invisible Love Tour) Reply:

@kmplx, “just cos their mom/granny/5 sisters/3 dogs loves you, doesn’t mean they do!”

LOL…say it again.

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Panama Jackson Reply:

@kmplx, thanks for the postlove.

ya know, and this might be an entry at some point but i’ve never really felt that “meeting the family” was such a special treat. i’m close with my family. if you date me, you’ll probably meet them by default. there’s nothing grandiose about it for me.

i think “meeting the parents” is one of those other things folks tend overthink.

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SouthernGirl Reply:

@Panama Jackson,

i agree with your line of thinking, well, at least when i was home in NO but for some folks is it a big deal, a la the dude that never brings a girl home and then you come in and they’re looking at you like the second coming of BBJ and all you wanted was a piece of chicken.

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ofloveandotherdemons Reply:

@Panama Jackson,
I agree. If we are seeing each other on a fairly regular basis then you are bound to meet my friends and my sweet peach pie of a mother. It’s not some grand declaration of approval on my part, it’s simply a numbers game. These are people I’m with often, so you are going to be meeting them at some point.

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9 Monk February 18, 2009 at 7:39 am

Thorough list Panama.

I would add that just because someone introduces you to their parents or invite you to special family get-togethers, doesn’t neccessarily equate to love.

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Shelia (on the Invisible Love Tour) Reply:

@Monk, “just because someone introduces you to their parents or invite you to special family get-togethers, doesn’t neccessarily equate to love.”

Monk–thanks for that. Some men and women have no problem introducing you to everybody in the family. You’ll be one of many that the family has met. If you hear the words, “oh you’re cuter or nicer than the last one,” make a note and know that his or her introducing you is the norm.

Now as for me, if I introduce a man to my family, it means he’s something special to me. I don’t introduce guys I’m JUST dating to my family.

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Nicki Sunshine Reply:

@Shelia (on the Invisible Love Tour), “Now as for me, if I introduce a man to my family, it means he’s something special to me. I don’t introduce guys I’m JUST dating to my family.”

This is me too…..

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N.I.A. Ms.Alladatshyt.... Reply:

@Shelia (on the Invisible Love Tour), “Now as for me, if I introduce a man to my family, it means he’s something special to me. I don’t introduce guys I’m JUST dating to my family.”

I am the same way. I remember this guy I was seeing in law school introduced me to his parents when they came to visit, and all I could think was I hope he doesn’t think I’m going to introduce him to my parents. In order to meet my parents, a man has to be exceptionally awesome…and I haven’t met him yet….

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Lil'T Reply:

@N.I.A. Ms.Alladatshyt….,

Back in the day one of my FIRST stops was past my folk’s house – not that I wanted to rush the relationship, but my fam are good judges of character and not too overbearing. Not too much anymore – at some point they started clownin’ me for bringing a small parade. Some dudes were totally cool with it, some ran for the hills. My “keeper” was ok with swinging past mom’s house while were were out riding. My bro? He brought exactly ONE girl around – 2 weeks before he told us that he was going to propose, lol.

Sula for the kids... Reply:

@Lil’T,

Boys are really something ,aren’t they? :)

The Champ Reply:

@N.I.A. Ms.Alladatshyt….,

In order to meet my parents, a man has to be exceptionally awesome…and I haven’t met him yet….

obviously, you’ve never met the champ

miss t-lee Reply:

@Shelia (on the Invisible Love Tour),
“Now as for me, if I introduce a man to my family, it means he’s something special to me. I don’t introduce guys I’m JUST dating to my family.”

Exactly.

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Ro Reply:

@Shelia (on the Invisible Love Tour),

If you meet the family and by family I mean parents… you locked down.

My siblings… I’m around them all the time so meeting them is like meeting my friends.

Meeting mom and dad…. they already know if I bring you home you’re something special and they will commence to joke you about it until we break up.

Welcome to the family & Sh*t. *shrugs shoulders*

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Nikiloveli Reply:

@Shelia (on the Invisible Love Tour),

“I don’t introduce guys I’m JUST dating to my family.”

I actually have introduce my family in phases, in order relative to their insanity. There are some people that I didn’t introduce until the reception, and still others that he’s only heard stories about. Can’t have him thinking that ish runs in the family.

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Sula for the kids... Reply:

@Nikiloveli,

Bwahahahaha. That’s hilarious.

Nicki Sunshine Reply:

@Monk, I agree.

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Me fail english? Reply:

@Monk,

Hope this isn’t a double post. But yeah that’d be an interesting post…What do you do when you have a person that is “taking a step” in intro’ing you to the parents when you no damn well you have no intentions to intro them?? Always an awkward moment

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Dom Reply:

@Me fail english?,

I agree, this would make a good post. I think theres a fine line to introducing the new beau and the rents, other people not so much. I feel like I’ve always been introduced at wildly innapropriate times.

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Me fail english? Reply:

@Dom,

“I feel like I’ve always been introduced at wildly innapropriate times.”

Haha, that’s a ppost in itself. When I was a 19y.o. wild child my friend’s mom (that I had met twice) came into my bedroom at the buttcrack of dawn (read: about 11:30am) just to say wut up/good morning on a SUNDAY. She looked in my trash to find a used condom, blunt guts, and an empty bottle of 151. Luckily my bf had already left by that time. Here I was thinking I was all grown and sh!t, not caring about grown folks’ disapproving glares like, “Whateva. I do what I want.”

I was mortified.

Dom Reply:

@Me fail english?,

Thats a mess! I think I can top that though…

I was jumping off with a dude when I was 19. We had fallen asleep on the couch after doing the do, and when his mom came home early from her nightshift she was greeted by my thonged booty.

After I put some clothes on she made breakfast and proceeded to tell me her son was going to be a pastor. I think she was in denial.

Sadly, thats just one of my stories. It wasnt funny at the time, but I can kinda chuckle about it now.

Me fail english? Reply:

@Dom,

Heh heh, Yep that def. tops mine :)

Panama Jackson Reply:

@Dom, so um, did dude become a pastor or what?

Dom Reply:

@Panama Jackson,

No. He became a crack head. Like, a real true to life crack head.

Sad sad story.

The Champ Reply:

@Dom,

I was jumping off with a dude when I was 19. We had fallen asleep on the couch after doing the do, and when his mom came home early from her nightshift she was greeted by my thonged booty.

lol at the image of dom’s thonged booty answering the front door like it was a doorman

Dom Reply:

@The Champ,

Yeah, it was a mess. I tried to put some clothes on but but all I could find was the floss.

The Champ Reply:

@Dom,

No. He became a crack head. Like, a real true to life crack head.

Sad sad story.

so you f*cked a crackhead?

V Renee Reply:

@The Champ,

I can’t stop laughing at this…..but that’s what’s sounding like to me. :)

Dom Reply:

@The Champ,

He wasnt when I was with him. Eventually HE BECAME a crackhead, after we stopped dealing.

Reading is fundamental, Champ.

Yaa Reply:

@The Champ, dying!!!!

SouthernGirl Reply:

@Me fail english?,

i am confused by this story. is the bf the friend? but you were in your room and the mom came by? whaaaaa?

Me fail english? Reply:

@SouthernGirl,

Lol. My bf=my boyfriend. It was my homegirl/suitemate’s mom that came in.

And LMAO @ a dude coming thru with the Radio Raheem blasting some Ghostface. I think I’d have to take him back!

SouthernGirl Reply:

@Me fail english?,

lmao@ ghostface. eh, i think early meth would do it for me. ;-) hell, who i am fooling? he (meth) could still get it today.

i got the bf thing i was more confused/concerned with how the mama fit into the picture if it was your room and not your mama. i thought you were saying his mama came in. lol.

Panama Jackson Reply:

@Monk, thanks. i try to operate thoroughly.

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10 KingPine February 18, 2009 at 8:45 am

“1) Laying of the Hands – and not in the religious sense. Anytime somebody has to lay your a** out in order to show you that they love you, there’s clearly something wrong with them.”

Imma be livin this sh!t down forever…..smgdh lol

Love, in my world, is doin what needs to be done…. it’s an acknowledgement that we are all connected. it might be time….it might be money…it might be good skins….but it most definitely is self-sacrifice…..

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The Champ Reply:

@KingPine,

Love, in my world, is doin what needs to be done…. it’s an acknowledgement that we are all connected. it might be time….it might be money…it might be good skins….but it most definitely is self-sacrifice…..

its interesting how everyone has different definitions of love

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Panama Jackson Reply:

@The Champ, that’s very true.

i asked my grandma what she felt love was, and she said its never having to smack a b*tch

i think the definition changes daily.

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Luvvie Reply:

@Panama Jackson,

LMAO @ Granny. Ol’ folks are awesome b/c they truly dont give a damn what they say

YGB Reply:

@Panama Jackson,

LMAO – your granny sho is gully! I like her!

Nikiloveli Reply:

@The Champ,

I don’t think that people have different definitions. I think that we just all use different words to describe the same concept. Thing is, no matter the nomenclature, we know it when we see it. We really know it when we don’t. Some of us just like to delude ourselves.

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The Champ Reply:

@Nikiloveli,

I don’t think that people have different definitions. I think that we just all use different words to describe the same concept. Thing is, no matter the nomenclature, we know it when we see it. We really know it when we don’t. Some of us just like to delude ourselves.

i see what you’re saying, but i do think that the definition of love and the feelings/emotions accompanying it is variable. it seems like a cop-out answer, but it really does depend on the person

ofloveandotherdemons Reply:

@Nikiloveli,
I think we do have different definitions. Our experiences shape how we view the world and what we expect from it, including love, and since each person’s experiences are inherently unique, then so is our concept love. My granny, the third wife of a lout of a grandfather, probably had a widely different definition of what love (I’m pretty sure cattle provision was involved) was than I do.

11 Princess Duvet aka "The Princess Has Spoken" February 18, 2009 at 9:16 am

“what are some things that people get confused as love?

Pixie Love. The fantasy. That initial rush.

Fools Rush In.

Particularly women have problems really dating multiple men (no se!x) at the same time, in order to craft a frame of reference and getting to ALLOW men to uncover who they are..the stuff you miss, because pixie wants you to see something else and with one particular person, USUALLY the ONLY person on your radar.

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The Champ Reply:

@Princess Duvet aka “The Princess Has Spoken”,

Particularly women have problems really dating multiple men (no se!x) at the same time,

why do you think this is?

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Ro Reply:

@The Champ,

I would love to know the answer to that as well. If I have to tell one more home girl “you don’t have to sleep with every guy you date, girl chill out before you end up a baby mama and no longer my friend.”

I may just be a hermit!

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Dom Reply:

@Ro,

“girl chill out before you end up a baby mama and no longer my friend”

Well dam*! Cant believe you just come right out and say that! LOL!

Ro Reply:

@Dom, I have to. I am a believer of assimilation by association and I refuse to associate with wanna be/ fixin to be/ soon to be/thinking about being/already are/not quite reformed but jesus is working with me HOES!

Princess Duvet aka "The Princess Has Spoken" Reply:

@The Champ,

i sorta think it goes back to our barbie dolls as little girls..I don’t know if i was given the short end of the gender doll stick. But there were a host of different barbies (sunset barbie, RV barbie, City Barbie. I had them all…but I only had one Ken.)

what does that tell you?

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The Champ Reply:

@Princess Duvet aka “The Princess Has Spoken”,

absolutely nothing

Princess Duvet aka "The Princess Has Spoken" Reply:

@Princess Duvet aka “The Princess Has Spoken”,

I’ll answer my own question since I am pumped with 4 shots of a venti espresso..women are conditioned to not date around. To wait on the Prince while he sows his wild oats. The multi-task dat @zz discussion as it relates to women still has a whor@edom type of stigma associated to it..where I never introduced sleeping with all the men you date from the get go.

Deviant Reply:

@Princess Duvet aka “The Princess Has Spoken”,
I think you reading too much into how many Ken’s you had

Princess Duvet aka "The Princess Has Spoken" Reply:

@Deviant,

Imma wait to the starbucks wears off..that could be true..but I think its rather brilliant myself.

I think generally we are who we are even as kids. Some of our early play also shapes our relationship outlook.

***wonders if i should drink this much coffee everyday***

Deviant Reply:

@Princess Duvet aka “The Princess Has Spoken”,
Starbucks is dangerous. Thats why I don’t drink shoewater. (shoewater = coffee)

The Champ Reply:

@Princess Duvet aka “The Princess Has Spoken”,

women are conditioned to not date around. To wait on the Prince while he sows his wild oats. The multi-task dat @zz discussion as it relates to women still has a whor@edom type of stigma associated to it..where I never introduced sleeping with all the men you date from the get go

i agree and sh*t

Me fail english? Reply:

@Princess Duvet aka “The Princess Has Spoken”,

Not really related but this just reminded me. I had a very vivid imagination and more than 50 barbies, about 6 of them kens, all with different first and last names, life stories, occupations, etc.

Anyhow, once in a while there was a rumble at the pool, the Burger King or “the club” (a pile of berenstain bears books at the bottom of my bed over one of the men. We’re talking pirouetted, karate kicks and all that! But that’s probably cuz my mama had me watching the Young and Restless ever since I could speak.

SouthernGirl Reply:

@Me fail english?,

i just gonna go ahead and quit you for the day.

Me fail english? Reply:

@SouthernGirl,

Lol. DON’T LEAVE ME!!

SouthernGirl Reply:

@Me fail english?,

lmao! i’m trying but you are killing me today.

Nikiloveli Reply:

@Me fail english?,

“Anyhow, once in a while there was a rumble at the pool, the Burger King or “the club” (a pile of berenstain bears books at the bottom of my bed over one of the men.”

***DEAD***

(…the heavens open up, the now
translucent Nikiloveli sprouts wings and floats up to the skies, as a Tom N Jerry style sambo barbershop quartet harmonizes in the background,)

That said, can we go back in time and be bff’s? We’d get on famously. Also, were you an only child?

Me fail english? Reply:

@Nikiloveli,
Haha. I was actually the youngest. My older sisters used to torture me so I took to solitary play. Yea for retroactive BFF-ery!

swamii Reply:

@Princess Duvet aka “The Princess Has Spoken”,

How many dates, or how long, does it take for someone to “uncloak” so you can see their real self?

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Princess Duvet aka "The Princess Has Spoken" Reply:

@swamii,

“How many dates, or how long, does it take for someone to “uncloak” so you can see their real self?”

good question..my two favorite words organic and fluid fit here. People fall off the roster. People stay..there is usually some special rapport you build with one over time…

not an exact science..but it is emotionally protective for women, and allows for an even distribution of..”he’s cool.” “I really like him”.

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Panama Jackson Reply:

@Princess Duvet aka “The Princess Has Spoken”, but that early time is fun ain’t it? at least until you find out you’re dating a bi-polar axe murderer with a penchant for kicking babies and learning about the finer points of Satanism.

people need to ask more questions.

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Deviant Reply:

@Panama Jacksson,
I like kicking puppies and kittens and giving chimps anti anxiety pills

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WuDaMan Reply:

@Deviant,

ehahaha is that what happened when that chimpanzee attacked that woman. When animals attack priceless.

AkShone Reply:

Yo, that bus is never late.

Humans + Wild Animals + The assumption that the wild animal is human = News coverage at 11

In the words of Chris Rock, “That tiger didn’t go crazy…that tiger went TIGER!!!”

Deviant Reply:

@AkShone,
and the drugs helped that chimp turn back into a chimp.
Question: I’m no animal lover or PETA fanatic or anything but why when an animal attacks do they shoot to kill? Don’t animal control have tranq guns? That animal is just paying them back for the stupid people douchefying him. Everytime I see an animal mauling some idiot that got too close I cheer for the animal.

SouthernGirl Reply:

@Deviant,

i don’t think they called animal control though. i think they called the cops. at least that’s how i heard it on the radio this morning. and the people that called told them to bring guns because the chimp was that out of control.

idk. i ain’t one to gossip so you didn’t hear that from me….

Dom Reply:

@WuDaMan,

That ish was ridiculous! Those people had been feeding that damn thing, dressing it up like a human, feeding it from plates and cups, like he was a real person. I hate to say they deserved that, but they damn sure did ask for it!

Me fail english? Reply:

@Dom,

Haha, They were giving Bubbles a eulogy on the news this morning and among his hobbies was that he used to love to watch babies. smh@ some parents

AkShone Reply:

I personally think she was using that chimp as a pseudo – man kid. It’s sad really…

miss t-lee Reply:

@AkShone,
I saw a 20/20 special about that.
There’s a whole group of people who do that.
There’s also a group who have baby dolls and they treat them as real kids. Dressing them, feeding them, strollers, the whole 9.

AkShone Reply:

Oh, I saw the 20/20 special on the ladies with the dolls…that was just creepy. I felt even more sorry for their husbands. Like, d@mn…he’s gotta deal with this loony tune DAILY. Imagine having to explain that sh*t to friends and family!

miss t-lee Reply:

@AkShone,
Yeah I feel sorry for their husbands and anyone else who has to interact with them and spare their “feelings” about their “children”.

pgh muse Reply:

@AkShone,
prolly was…

Deviant Reply:

@WuDaMan,
Yeah they said this stupid woman gave the chimp Zanax or what ever cause he was jittery. She was unaware that the only thing keeping that chimp from mauling u and throwing boo all over everything was probly those anxieties. They said it got the key let himself out of the cage. The stupid woman called a friend to help her lock the chimp back up and the chimp wasn’t goin. How her friend has no face and they shot the chimp dead. Why do they allow people to have wild animals as pets?

miss t-lee Reply:

@Deviant,
“Why do they allow people to have wild animals as pets?”

This is what I always wonder. Then you wanna act all suprised when you get attacked. HELLO!!! It’s a wild animal.
MF’in Idiots.
That Chris Rock quote is the truth…thanks for reminding me of that AkShone.

Luvvie Reply:

@Deviant,

LMAO! Why the hell would the lady give the Chimp Xanax? Some 2520s are bananas (no pun intended)

Deviant Reply:

@Luvvie,
cause she is a stupid old woman. Too bad her friend got de-faced and not her dumb a$$.

Luvvie Reply:

@Deviant,

Yeah its always an innocent bystander gettin the brunt of their deadly animals’ rage. But I wonder if their friendship is over. I mean, I’d be a tad bit resentful if your damn chimp defaced me for life. BISH LOSE MY NUMBER! lol

SouthernGirl Reply:

@Luvvie,

see, why did ‘ol girl even go over there? d@mn it you gotta draw the friendship line somewhere and i think mine is firmly drawn at helping you get your wild animal pet back in its cage.

SwDee Reply:

this lady was giving the chimp wine and crackers before bedtime…
talking about she didn’t recognize my friend because she drove a different car and changed her hair color and length!!!!

blackberry molasses Reply:

** de lurks to say**

I need to go find this chimp story… sounds like a hot mess of hilarity.

Princess Duvet aka "The Princess Has Spoken" Reply:

@Panama Jackson,

more questions and BETTER ones too.

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WuDaMan Reply:

@Princess Duvet aka “The Princess Has Spoken”,
sometimes you got to have a good filter for the answers. I mean if you don’t know what to do with the information or what it means… It does you no good.

12 miss t-lee February 18, 2009 at 9:21 am

“Somebody who only sees you on their schedule doesn’t really love you”

Mayne hol’ up! This is what got the immediate ex nexted. I knew I was doing the right thing.

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Panama Jackson Reply:

@miss t-lee, you and Spike Lee.

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miss t-lee Reply:

@Panama Jackson,
You know what?
The title of this post made me think of Schoolly D. “PSK”
*chuckling*

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AkShone Reply:

D@mn, that’s ol’ school.

**Handing T-Lee some Cazal glasses and a tight @ss adidas track jacket**

miss t-lee Reply:

@AkShone,
Niiice. :)

13 N.I.A. Ms.Alladatshyt.... February 18, 2009 at 9:36 am

Great post Panama!

I would as an addendum to #2…

Just b/c you spend money on a lady, and she accepts all of your gifts, it does not mean she loves you. It means she loves your money and your gullibility, and is most likely a gold-digger. You cannot buy love…you can buy seccs, but not love.

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SexyCool Reply:

@N.I.A. Ms.Alladatshyt….,

so…there’s this dude who when it comes to naked games, it’s like 7up – he never had and he never will…and although i barely return his calls, clearly give him my leftover time and hardly remember his name…he chooses to spend his cash on me in an attempt to sway affect my affections…and i allow him to…i’m wrong?

my integrity is effed up? i’m the gold digger?

why can’t i just be a good money manager? better to let somebody else spend their’s while i stash mine, right? no use in me coming out the pocket when you’re pulling out cash like you picked it off the money tree…

(btw…this whole response is quite tongue-in-cheek or hand-in-wallet…)

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N.I.A. Ms.Alladatshyt.... Reply:

@SexyCool,

LOL!! Hey, as long as you’re not telling him how much you love him while you’re taking his money, then I say do you. We are in a recession and shyt…the stimulus was just signed yesterday, and who knows how long it will take to kick in….

Besides, he might think you’re poor, and is using the money he gives to you as a tax write-off for charitible giving…. lol!

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WuDaMan Reply:

@N.I.A. Ms.Alladatshyt…., -N- SexyCool,

Why cain’t I plimp hoez till I got money coming out my nose??? (just a little salt n sugar to go w/ the tongue-n-cheek $(insert fee here) btw)

The Champ Reply:

@SexyCool,

he chooses to spend his cash on me in an attempt to sway affect my affections…and i allow him to…i’m wrong

yup. :)

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Panama Jackson Reply:

@SexyCool, tongue in cheek or not, i think if you ain’t leading a cat on and he still chooses to blow his wad on you…well, sometimes you got to let dumb people do dumb sh*t. lol. like going out of your way for somebody who doesnt remember you when you’re not around.

then again, perseverance is a motherf*cker. he might be wearing you down.

you saw what happened to Laura and Steve Urkel.

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WuDaMan Reply:

@Panama Jackson,

eheheheehehehe you typed wad aaahahahahahaha

I appologize if I offend. My sense of humor is stuck in the elementary school.

pgh muse Reply:

@WuDaMan, this comment made me giggle… it’s ok, Wu.

SexyCool Reply:

@Panama Jackson,

see…panama…that’s what i meant…let dumb people do dumb shit…

i mean…if they’re going to blow their cash…why couldn’t i be the one getting the benefit from it?

however…i will say this…that’s really not my steel-o…i knowS about karma and ish like that…if i play on somebody who has sincere intentions regarding me…please believe that the Fates will deal my ass a hand of bytch-you-is-getting-played-back…

and more than my integrity (which i do possess a fair measure of)…that goes-around-comes-around truth is enough to keep my ass in line…

however…i LOVE debating and will often take an unpopular, politically-, socially-, or even morally-incorrect position simply for the love of discourse…

14 Me fail english? February 18, 2009 at 10:51 am

Willful and exuberant inconvenience can sometimes falsely classified as love. Just consider who’s getting on two buses, a train and a humpback llama to see you…

If it’s somebody who has a trillion better, more lucrative, more attractive pursuits to follow, you may be onto something. If it’s some random bum bitch/hoodrat, think again.

I think we’ve all lived by that “friend” who was willing to give anyone a ride anytime to anywhere just to be in the mix. I have nothing but the utmost contempt for those types.

P.S. Looks like Obama to me *shrugs*

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Panama Jackson Reply:

@Me fail english?, lol…good point. i think there’s a thin line between stalker nutcase and a person who you’re interested in doing what they can to show you how much they’re feeling you.

crazy folks will do all kinds of stuff. like track you down after 12 years. another PSA: people get married and get different last names. don’t just accept friends all willy nilly on facebook. lol.

panama makes mistakes so that others may learn.

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15 Ro February 18, 2009 at 11:19 am

One thing I can’t stand is how every dude thinks a home cooked meal is a sign I’m trying to wife you….. Uhm NEGATIVE!

It is a sign that I made dinner and I don’t want to eat it alone or with my greedy arse friends who’ll try to fix plates and take my leftovers home so I won’t have lunch tomorrow.

It doesn’t mean that I’m trying to find my way to your heart thru ya stomach. If I was, I would have made your favorite meal and your favorite dessert..the whole nine. And not something I threw together and some chips ahoys I had in the cabinet from 2 weeks ago.

And about that “time” statement… I have hella free time…lol. So me calling and saying let’s hang out…doesn’t mean anything to me, except I’m bored and want you to be bored with me or entertain me b/c everyone else I called was busy/working/night school/boo’d up/lived too far etc.

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Me fail english? Reply:

@Ro,

Yeah I love to cook but I’m always a little apprehensive about cooking for a dude for the first time. The guys I’ve dated don’t think I’m in love but they usually start to think they have the upper hand for some reason. Its really just a hobby of mine..

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Ro Reply:

@Me fail english?,

I don’t know why they figure they have the upper hand.

I’m not a heavy chick but I’m not stick figure either…you think all this came from mcdonalds? Uh big negatory on that one!

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Me fail english? Reply:

@Ro,

Exactly, I learned to cook because I’m not fond of “New York Fried Chicken”, “Crown Fried..” or any dining establishment that fries cheese, broccoli and “crabmeat” into a single stick.

It’s to the point that if a man asks if I can cook within the first couple of dates I get pretty feisty. What you think I’m a punk?! That’s none of your damned business and I’ll thank you to stay out of my personal affairs.

The Champ Reply:

@Me fail english?,

any dining establishment that fries cheese, broccoli and “crabmeat” into a single stick

ummm…where can i find such establishments?

Me fail english? Reply:

@The Champ,

Any hood in NYC! They’re usually called [Insert any word here] Fried Chicken and run by the only Arabs in the hood. As a bonus, your crabcolieese stick is probably halal!

If you can’t find it there I’m sure that they’re in the same places where they seel “Big AZZ Sandwiches”. You know, the ones with the tagline “They’re huge.” I always blush when I take my neices to the gas station and see that sign. smh

The Champ Reply:

@Me fail english?,

sadly, we dont have such joints in the burgh. we just add fries and coleslaw to everything

Me fail english? Reply:

@Me fail english?,

I took classes at CMU in a former life. U guys are good for a greasy spoon. Mayhaps that’s why you have so many hospitals

peachi Reply:

@Ro,

that food thing is major, lol. i was thinking the same thing

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Panama Jackson Reply:

@Ro, And about that “time” statement… I have hella free time…lol. So me calling and saying let’s hang out…doesn’t mean anything to me, except I’m bored and want you to be bored with me or entertain me b/c everyone else I called was busy/working/night school/boo’d up/lived too far etc.

hm…but would you willfully call a dude you KNOW wants to be with you to just hang? cuz if so, you’re a bad person. lol. to you you may just be bored…to them, you could be finally opening up the door to your heart.

this goes to the age old conundrum of whether or not you have to be responsible for other people’s feelings.

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Ro Reply:

@Panama Jackson, In all honesty…then I guess I’m a bad person. lol. I’ve done that before. Although in my defense I make sure to reiterate that said feelings are not reciprocated and I make sure my actions say the same thing.

Like, calling him my “brother from another” and talking on the phone to another guy I’m actually interested in…only to further drive the point that “you and me ain’t happening patna!”

I feel like I was being responsible enough for his feelings…I mean, I warned him. Right?

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Panama Jackson Reply:

@Ro, i’d need to see the transcripts of these “warnings”.

often times folks feel they’re saying enough to ward off feelings by not doing anything to encourage them.

just saying. i’ve been that luvstruck dumbf*ck who had a chick lead me on. sure i only saw what i wanted, but she sure didn’t want me to NOT feel the way i felt.

The Champ Reply:

@Panama Jackson,

sure i only saw what i wanted, but she sure didn’t want me to NOT feel the way i felt.

“signs that you’re leading someone on” is a potential future topic

Suga&Spice Reply:

@The Champ, i will be waiting on this topic. I struggle with this one from time to time.

pgh muse Reply:

@The Champ,

I don’t think I’ve seen one post on breaking up. I’ve seen posts on getting a date, being a good first date, beating your date (double entendre u like that)… but I have never seen a post on breaking up. Reasons for breaking up. How to break up efficiently… without skydiving off a bridge… u know stuff like that. Ya’ll should handle that. stat.

The Champ Reply:

@pgh muse,

since you’ve obviously never met my friend “archives”, i’ve decided to introduce you to her. she’s cool, really. you all should be good friends/

http://www.verysmartbrothas.com/vsbs-guide-to-a-successful-break-up/

http://www.verysmartbrothas.com/relationship-downfall-week-the-truth/

pgh muse Reply:

@ The Champ,

I had a teacher back in the day. I don’t remember the school (there were so many) … his name was Mr. Snodgrass… and he always said Mooch-a$$ grass-y-a$$ (being funny) he had a greasy grey ponytail in his hair and wore sweaters all year round. But today this just seems hilarious so I say this to you, The Champ. lol… mooch-a$$ grass-y-a$$ (like Muchos gracias – many thanks-if you don’t get it) Good stuff :)

Ro Reply:

@Panama Jackson, I’m usually very upfront with dudes I’m not attracted to. I’ll tell them off top… “you cool and all but I’m not feeling you like that. We can be friends, but that’s it. No passing go, no collecting $200, no get outta jail free cards, none, nada, zilch, zero….nothing!”

I mean, damn how else can I say I’m not interested!

I learned early on that always looking like you just rolled outta bed…not for me. And most guys are more attracted to the sweats/bball shorts and a tshirt anyway. So that was out. I got tired of them always thinking I meant something else…so flat out, God’s honest truth that this right here ain’t going no further than right where it’s at is all I can do.

Now if I’m making late night plans with you sitting there…and you still think you going past go…that’s on you. I done told yo’ behind!

But, I’m kinda mean and impatient so after a while of you not getting it….. I could give a good got da!mn about yo feelings…. f!luck yo feelings ninja. Betta suck that sh*t up and tell someone who cares.

ofloveandotherdemons Reply:

@Ro,
and talking on the phone to another guy I’m actually interested in…only to further drive the point that

I think I teared up a little over that one. Poor stranger I don’t know. I’ve been on a similar ride, and it just confused the s**t out of me, and made me very, very sad. I kept doing the angel and devil advocate scenarios with myself. Angel: Well he must like me. His called multiple times to hang out; there must be something there. Devil: Yeah, he calls, but he spends 40% of the time on the phone, and it always feels like he wants to be somewhere else. Oh yeah, and what about his ‘cousin’ he brought last time. Angel: Perhaps, I’m being oversensitive. He could just have poor social training (the cell phone habit) and really like his ‘cousin’. Cousins hardly look alike anyway.

Tear, tear, tear. Stop it!!! Emotional baiting suck a**.

16 peachi February 18, 2009 at 11:28 am

great list

how about:

Just because they qualify certain actions with “I’ve never done *insert action* for anyone before” or “Don’t laugh, but this is my first time doing *insert action*…” doesn’t mean that you’re paving your way into their heart. Though it could be a start, know that you are not his/her world…

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Panama Jackson Reply:

@peachi, usually they’re lying anyway. better not to believe them.

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17 pgh muse February 18, 2009 at 11:30 am

This is a good, thought provoking post. And real talk… i’m still learning about what love is. What it really is, giving and receiving. I know what it’s NOT… your list does that justice. But I’m still learning what it is. Being with someone and trying to work it out will do that. I think that real love of the romantic nature consists of a whole bunch of things. Lust, trust, friendship, selflessness, patience… that’s all I can think of off the top. And you have to be able to see yourself with that person for the next 30- 40 years. Living in the moment is great. But commitment is a teacher.

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Panama Jackson Reply:

@pgh muse, i think we’re all still learning what love is. everytime i think i know, something comes along to show me that i was either 1) wrong, or b) being shortsighted.

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18 CPT Callamity February 18, 2009 at 11:42 am

Love? Whassdat? Dictionary…Thesarus…something…

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Panama Jackson Reply:

@CPT Callamity, lol. even the 10 greatest love songs all have different definitions.

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19 SouthernCharm February 18, 2009 at 11:42 am

jealously doesn’t = love. it just might mean crazy.

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Panama Jackson Reply:

@SouthernCharm, word.life.

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20 Cheekie February 18, 2009 at 11:46 am

Sidenote: I actually don’t think that Bobblehead Barack is all that far off. I think the elongated head is what kills it, though. His head ain’t long. I’m bettin’ something else is, though.

Frontnote: Showing love is subjective. What one person might do to show love, another person may brush it off as just something they do. Like cooking, mentioned above. Some see that as a labor of love (for that someone) and others just see it as something they love to do anyway. I think the actions you hold special to your heart and don’t do for just any ol’ body are actions of love…or at least a bit more special that lust.

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Panama Jackson Reply:

@Cheekie, His head ain’t long. I’m bettin’ something else is, though.

well thank you for that inappropriately inappropriate comment. lol.

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Cheekie Reply:

@Panama Jackson,

LOL. I still a bit feel weird about thinking dirty about my president. I feel even weirder that I’ve quickly become so comfortable in expressing these thoughts. It’s my Mama’s fault. She’s fast.

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Ro Reply:

@Cheekie,

Not that it matters but I’m betting it is too. More like hoping seeing as how I don’t gamble.

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Cheekie Reply:

@Ro,

Oh, it is. I’d wager my Malcolm X DVD for that. Michelle wouldn’t settle for anything less. She ain’t the type.

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The Champ Reply:

@Cheekie,

Michelle wouldn’t settle for anything less. She ain’t the type.

i probably shouldnt ask you to expound, but i will anyway

Cheekie Reply:

@The Champ,

I’m not sure if I can actually go into an in-depth explanation since I don’t know her from Eve…I should’ve said she doesn’t seem to be the type. She comes across as having a go-getter, “by any means necessary”, pro-active, “take no mess” personality so it would make sense that this idea travels right into the Oscar Meyer regions.

21 Cheryl February 18, 2009 at 12:06 pm

Where was this post 2 years ago?

I have to agree with most of what I have read in the comments (I agree with the post itself, too). I’m a person that follows the heart, and tries to ignore my gut. I learned a painful lesson. My gut has my best interests at heart, while my heart … meh just likes to love. Had I followed my gut I would have dumped dude before I got to demon status.

Oh, and please include somewhere in here that post coital cuddling and pillow talk doesnt mean he likes you a lot, hes just cold and needed a breather before he falls asleep.

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Me fail english? Reply:

@Cheryl,

Preach! Ignoring my gut has usually left me bitter and crazy in the end. I’m a brainless romantic though

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Luvvie Reply:

@Me fail english?,

Unrelated, but everytime I see your screename, I think “thats unpossible!” Simpsons ROCKS!

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Miss Patterson Reply:

@Luvvie, i peeped that sh*t too. i love a good ralph wiggum quote.

22 SauleWright February 18, 2009 at 12:19 pm

I’ve been on the initial creation side of a bobble head before…it all looks JUST like who it is before it goes to the factories in China where they get paid 5 bucks a year to make as many of those as they can. It’s all downhill once it leaves the desk.

Oh, and love….so many things I got to tell you….

oops, sorry, I heard violins and such.

The only thing I have to add about that is that once they tell you that they love you, and you continue to treat them like you did BEFORE they told you…even if you say that you don’t feel the same…you are responsible for her breaking the windows out your car.

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Panama Jackson Reply:

@SauleWright, there’s never a good reason to break anybody’s windows out their car. lol. never.

and um, what exactly kind of job is it that you had where you were on the creation side? were you a Bobbleheader?

that sounds like porn.

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SauleWright Reply:

@Panama Jackson,

Hey, I never said it was a good reason…but you knew that ish was comin. LOL.

LOL@bobbleheader…thas nasty as hell. Graphic Designer thank you very much.

Although getting “fluffed” sounds….

what? huh? My momma callin’ me, I gotta go.

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The Champ Reply:

@SauleWright,

yeah. professional bobbleheader might be one of the worst named professions, right up there with “ballboy” and “grip”

SauleWright Reply:

@The Champ,

LMAO, those are quite terrible names. That’s damn near post worthy. lol

miss t-lee Reply:

@The Champ,
Let’s not forget “best boy grip”.
*chuckling*

23 pgh muse February 18, 2009 at 12:24 pm

I think that bobblehead looks just like Barack. Random, I know. But I had to put that on the table.

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Panama Jackson Reply:

@pgh muse, so, if somebody asked you to put them on the glass would you do it??!?

hmm?!?

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pgh muse Reply:

@Panama Jackson,

Absolutely.

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The Champ Reply:

@pgh muse,

***putting pgh muses name down for the entertainment portion of the vsb.com bbq***

pgh muse Reply:

@The Champ,

hahahahaha! yeah right. that was totally a joke.

The Champ Reply:

@pgh muse,

mmmhmmm

SouthernGirl Reply:

@Panama Jackson, lmao!

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Luvvie Reply:

@pgh muse,
Yeah methinks the bobblehead favors Prez O. Methinks P-Money is just too tired and has developed cataracts from fatigue.

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Voiceofreason Reply:

@Luvvie,

Or lil Pana-mama projectile peed in his eyes and he’s still recovering.

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Panama Jackson Reply:

@Voiceofreason, for your information, i’ve mastered the art of the bob-and-weave when it comes to projectile desecrations.

my cat though? she NEVER sees it coming.

Voiceofreason Reply:

@Panama Jackson,

LOL! The mental image of this is too funny. Poor cat.

Nikiloveli Reply:

@Panama Jackson,

She is clearly aiming for the cat. Which makes her my hero. I totally want a Panamette bobblehead.

pgh muse Reply:

@Voiceofreason, Pana-mama

I think of all the namings of Panama’s little bundle of joy, this is among my faves. Pana-mama… lil’ Pana-mama heeheehee that’s cute.

24 SwDee February 18, 2009 at 1:32 pm

can i just add…
just because they introduce you to their kids does not mean they love you. it just means that they’re irresponsible parents!

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WuDaMan Reply:

@SwDee,

ooh bravo. good call! Me likes the addvice.

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SouthernGirl Reply:

@SwDee,

hmmm…..i’d add the asterik that it depends on when they introduce you and what the status of your relationship is. but i guess you’re referring to random willy nilly i don’t even know your last name intros and the like.

and welcome!!! (i think)

or did i throw gold stars at you already? *sigh* the welcome wagon is getting crowded.

take some more anyway…

*shooting gold stars*

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SwDee Reply:

@SouthernGirl,

yeah, i mean the one that don’t wait to introduce the kids. that’s always been scary for me and a deal breaker!

btw, thanxs for the welcome wagon!

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blackberry molasses Reply:

@SouthernGirl,

you’ve noticed i’ve been missing from my welcome wagon duties… this Sparkly Sista is taking a “welcome” vacation!

be back in a few posts

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SouthernGirl Reply:

@blackberry molasses,

i was starting to wonder….i mean you could at least let a Sista know though. you can’t be scheduling vacays all willy nilly. i was about to send out the SSST (Sparkly Sista Search Team).

no worries. i will carry the welcome wagon banner (all by my lonesome) until you return.

*shuffles off leaving sad trail of gold star dust*

blackberry molasses Reply:

@SouthernGirl,

my bad…. here *hands you bag of Diva Dust v. 2.o ™*

you got me?

I’m using this vaycay to work on the newest version of sparkly goodness…. and keeping my eyes peeled for Lil’T

SouthernGirl Reply:

@blackberry molasses,

*checks over shoulder for Lil T*

i got you.

Voiceofreason Reply:

@SwDee,

So true. No one should meet children unless the relationship is S.E.R.I.O.U.S.

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miss t-lee Reply:

@SwDee,
I agree.
I start freaking out if you want me to meet your chirren and I just met you.

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Yaa Reply:

@SwDee, I AGREE!! A date is a date….you will never meet my kids after “a date”. Fool get outta here! I am always shocked at parents that do that. Having their kids calling some random person Uncle or Auntie.

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25 Voiceofreason February 18, 2009 at 2:13 pm

What I’m about to say has absolutely nothing to do with the subject but I don’t care…

My girl (one of country music’s rising stars) has a new show called Rissi Palmer’s Country. The 1st episode airs on the Travel Channel, Saturday Feb. 28 at 10:00PM. Show a sista some love and watch it. If you’re not gonna be home DVR it. If you don’t have cable find someone who does and watch it at their place. :)

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Voiceofreason Reply:

@Voiceofreason,

Oh, and she was born just outside of Pittsburgh, so certain VSBs and VSSs should be watching on GP. :)

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pgh muse Reply:

@Voiceofreason, Thanks for the heads up VOR.I will check it out!

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The Champ Reply:

@Voiceofreason,

i’ll check it out. rissi’s kind of banging

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Voiceofreason Reply:

@The Champ,

“rissi’s kind of banging”

We banging chicks usually travel in packs. J/k.

EVERY guy says that (and then tries to get me to hook him up with her)! She’s beautiful, but she also sings, plays the guitar, and writes for herself and other musicians.

Promise me you’ll watch the show with the sound ON. Lol!

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Nikiloveli Reply:

@The Champ,

You like country music? That’s it.

My long held desire has been officially upgraded. “Sniff The Champ’s Neckplace” is now on my Bucket List.

(***purrs***)

In fact, “The Champ” is so formal…may I call you “The”?

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Voiceofreason Reply:

@Nikiloveli,

LMAO!!!! Should I give ya’ll some privacy?

Me fail english? Reply:

@Nikiloveli,

In fact, “The Champ” is so formal…may I call you “The”?

LMBAO! That would be wonderfully perplexing for all the rest of us.

SouthernGirl Reply:

@Voiceofreason,

cool. haven’t heard a lot of her music but she does have a song that i liked that i can’t think of the name of now….maybe her first single? remake of ‘no air’ was pretty cool.

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Voiceofreason Reply:

@SouthernGirl,

Her 1st single was Country Girl, maybe that’s it.

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SouthernGirl Reply:

@Voiceofreason,

yeah that’s it. good stuff.

26 Liryc February 18, 2009 at 2:53 pm

I have to say that I am in love with this post..

First off you should see the NY Post today, I’m livid as hell and wrote them a very angry letter. if you haven’t seen it..

http://www.nypost.com/delonas/2009/02/02182009.jpg
02182009.jpg (JPEG Image, 765×520 pixels)

Disrespectful in every sense of the term.

But on to your post.

I loved this because so many people do not understand or rather they don’t want to understand the difference b/w love and lust and all that other stuff that falls in b/w

Sometimes, the person is searching for something within themselves and when they find it from someone else they latch on to it, no matter how temporary it is, and then there are the ones that misconstrue just a quick hit as LOVE and companionship..

Just because he/she calls out your name when you getting or giving the business doesn’t mean that they love you..Just means that you’re laying it down right.. and you got to keep doing that!

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miss t-lee Reply:

@Liryc,
My homegirl JUST sent me that cartoon in an email.
Shameful. Is that how the NY Post normally gets down? (I don’t usually read them.)

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Voiceofreason Reply:

@miss t-lee,

I’ve never read the NY Post, but I’d always look at the front page when I saw other people reading. Based on the info I gathered from the front page the paper seems like complete trash.

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SauleWright Reply:

@Liryc,

Sh*t. This bullsh*t never ends, I’m so over it. I can’t believe this sh*t was published. Now, let’s all sit back while they send some bullsh*t apology and the rest of the asshole racists behind keyboards tell us that “We all need to get over slavery and be thankful that they brought blacks over here.” Yes, I read that before…and I’m not paraphrasing.

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blackberry molasses Reply:

@Liryc,

If that was the post’s attempt at lighthearted racial humor… someone needs to get handled.

**looks for the burner under her desk, while looking up bus tickets to NYC**

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Panama Jackson Reply:

@Liryc, and this post loves you back.

about that picture. it does amaze me that in 2008, and in this “post-race society” (totaly bullmalarkey) blatantly racist images such as that are still able to make it into any form of mass media.

i’m used to racism. it’s just one of those things, but man, how stuff like that gets into the newspapers is beyond me. that got greenlighted ALL THE WAY UP the editorial ladder.

oh well. i only have but so much pissedoffedness in me per year. can’t go wasting it on the NYPost.

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SouthernGirl Reply:

@Liryc,

*sigh* i don’t even have the strength for the ny post today.

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27 Liryc February 18, 2009 at 3:02 pm

@ miss t-lee..

unfortunately yes this is exactly how they get down.. every day there is some random racist comment or picture in their paper..

They have a page filled with disgustingly racist photo’s.
But I recall that the owners of the NY Post are the same owners of Fox and TV Guide and other Fox related networks and they were Pro McCain and this is how they feel they should let out their anguish.. I don’t read that paper because its written at the level of a 3rd grader and this picture is another reason why I don’t

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miss t-lee Reply:

@Liryc,
If they are the same people who are affliated with Fox News, I’m not suprised.
*smh* Dayum shame.

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28 Me fail english? February 18, 2009 at 3:05 pm

Almost forgot one. If your man spends all his time telling you how refreshing it is to be with you after his last woman (“that rottencrotch slut!”) he does not love you. In fact, he actually loves her. Sorry.

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Voiceofreason Reply:

@Me fail english?,

“rottencrotch slut”

What the shyt? Wow, that’s funny! Anytime someone frequently mentions an ex they may love you, but they love the ex more.

If you’re OK with being 2nd choice…shrug your shoulders and say “Sadatay.”

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SouthernGirl Reply:

@Voiceofreason,

lol@“Sadatay.”

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Me fail english? Reply:

@Voiceofreason,

lol@ Sadatay
Is this a Pootie Tang reference?

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Voiceofreason Reply:

@Me fail english?,

Yes, my damie. Wa-da-tah!

…sorry, I’m tired and I really want to leave work now…

WuDaMan Reply:

@Voiceofreason,

There ain’t nothing funny about being in love w/ a rottencrotched slut…

that is all.

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Voiceofreason Reply:

@WuDaMan,

Of course not. As long as she’s YOUR rottencrotched slut, that’s all that matters.

WuDaMan Reply:

@Voiceofreason,

actually the term slut kind of rules out monogomy and rottenness rules out choosieness. smh mh mh mh

pgh muse Reply:

@Me fail english?, lmao! This is hilarious.

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The Champ Reply:

@Me fail english?,

***btw, in 2003, rottencrotch slut was actually the secret service code name for teresa heinz***

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Panama Jackson Reply:

@Me fail english?, good one.

and yes, “rottencrotch slut” is a wonderful set of words.

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Liryc Reply:

@Panama Jackson, how about firecrotch?? is that just as bad?

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29 This Just In...Welcome to SIXBURGH! February 18, 2009 at 3:44 pm

okay okay okay….i got one!!!

Just because he/she tells you he/she loves during chex does NOT mean they love you!!!!

Nope-not at all.

Oh and F the NY Post….f&@#%&$!!

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Voiceofreason Reply:

@This Just In…Welcome to SIXBURGH!,

True, true, true. You can get someone to say they love anything during chex. As a matter of fact, you should try to do that for a good laugh. I love lamp, I love Theo Huxtable, I love to pay your bills…Hahaha!

And fuch Sean Delonas (of the NY Post).

Fuch Sean Delonas…t-shirt anyone?

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Voiceofreason Reply:

@Voiceofreason,

All proceeds from t-shirt sales should go to the J-School of an HBCU.

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Panama Jackson Reply:

@Voiceofreason, um, how many HBCU’s actually HAVE J-schools? I’m guessing like maybe 2?!

like seriously, or do you just mean the English department?

Voiceofreason Reply:

@Panama Jackson,

Nope, I mean J-School. I was gonna say that proceeds should all go to my alma mater’s J-school, but I decided not to be selfish. :)

Right Her Reply:

@Panama Jackson, mine does. (Go FAMU) And that was my major.

This Just In...Welcome to SIXBURGH! Reply:

@Voiceofreason, I’ll take two t-shirts please!

I love lamp….no, really….I love lamp.

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30 Liryc February 18, 2009 at 3:56 pm

@ this just in..

If you ask him if he loves you just as he’s about to get one in.. that was false and doesn’t count.. a man will say anything when he’s about to get one in.. He’ll sell off his first born to get that feeling!!

Sorry fella’s its true!

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This Just In...Welcome to SIXBURGH! Reply:

@Liryc,

Tis true…wiser words have never been spoken.

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31 Yaa February 18, 2009 at 10:08 pm

OH MY GOD! This was hilariously TRUE.

Some people think its love when someone is always calling. I mean like ALWAYS calling. You just left and they calling you as you pull off, you gotta call them when you get in the house or hell when you get up to pee at 2am they want you to call. That is not love. That is stalking!!!

I also think that sometimes people think they are in LOVE when they sort of go beyond taking an interest in what the other person is doing. For example: he is a jogger and now all of us sudden you are lacing up beside him or he has found a way into your knittin club! I am not talking about people that may be genuinely interested in a new experience. I am talking about people that are so insecure that they can’t let that person out of their sight or feel slighted when they have an interest outside of them.

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32 Timothy February 22, 2009 at 1:00 pm

playing his radio high above his head and pointed toward your window, crying to your mom

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