they’re baaaaaack
although he’s the consensus best ball player of all-time, a global icon, and the worst front-office executive in the history of the nba, you can argue that michael jordan’s most resonate impact in the black community has to do with the fact that he, more than any other one person, brought dark-skinned black men “back in style.”
you see, before mj became popular, black america was mired in a hilarious rut where male light-skinned points were freely and indiscriminately passed around like a paper football or luvvie’s panties, regardless of how awkwardly maned or aesthetically unfortunate (read: “richie, lionel”) the person happened to be.
a young champ even felt the effects of this, having once been deemed “too dark and crispy” in 4th grade by the object of the young champ’s affection, passed by and discarded for a 10 year old doppleganger of kid from kid n play. to this day, the champ refuses to watch “house party”.
jordan’s ascension in the late 80′s started a wave of darker-skinned black male affirmative attractiveness action, allowing men such as wesley snipes, kadeem hardison, and the notorious b.i.g. to be deemed sex symbols. this phenomenon has continued today, a dynamic which has also made it cool for women openly question the perceived “manhood” or “blackness” of our lighter-skinned brethren.
with the leader of the free world being a paper-bag test passing brotha with weed lips the color of the sacramento kings (purple and gray), its safe to say that the balance of p*ssy procuring power has shifted (damnit!!). the al b. sure’s and el debarge’s of the world will be back with a vengeance, infesting nightclubs and happy hours across the country in their s-curled and baby haired glory. the light skinned brotha is officially back in style.
i have a few more but, people of vsb.com, what say you? what changes (if any) do you think an obama presidency will bring to our courting/dating/boning dynamic?
-the champ
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Champ,
You can’t be calling my girl out. We will light yo azz up with this Chicago Fire.
Don’t get yo back dirtied.
V, I heart you for having my back. You shall get crepes or sushi.
I notice that
Humptythe Champ makes many references to my panties. It is clear that he-who-wears-glasses-and-has-cone-head is intrigued by me. Tis okay.Hi Hater.
seriously, i don’t pass them around. i keep them to myself.
And you BET not! Them is just for you, Kama Boo. (oooo that rhymed)
They can elect President Elect Obama to the papacy and PBG will never go over to light-skinned dudes.
I mean, I have a light skinned baby and all, but that was just a phase I was going through back in 1997! Stop bringin’ up old stuff.
“I have a light skinned baby and all, but that was just a phase I was going through back in 1997! Stop bringin’ up old stuff.”
LMAO.
LMAO!! but im with you PBG…i been likin the chocolate mens since my early days
“You can’t be calling my girl out. We will light yo azz up with this Chicago Fire.”
***looking under my desk for some more people to assist the chicago fire***
Now to my response:
Michelle Obama is a package: she’s smart, driven, stylish, attractive.
I am hoping that the Obamanation will let brothas see that you can have a strong woman and not feel like less of a man. Gone are the days when achieving brothas wife under-achieving sistas. Don’t know about y’all but I see this alot in my circle of friends, i.e. the architect who married the counter girl from Bally’s. Clearly his last girl friend, a fellow architect who spoke 7 languages and was educated in the U.S. and Britain was not good enough for him or the business analyst who married the admin. who can’t ever make her rent. This after he dated and dumped the corporate safety analyst. Titles, jobs and education aren’t everything but geesh. These are brothers who ALWAYS said they wanted a sister who was on the ball, business and career-wise, by the way.
I also hope an Obamanation will bring back the idea of a whole black family. Black love is a beautiful thing. It’s great to see a black woman and a black man working toward a shared goal.
“will let brothas see that you can have a strong woman and not feel like less of a man.”
Exactly. I’m hoping it will show the strength of a Black family sructure.
Don’t know about y’all but I see this alot in my circle of friends, i.e. the architect who married the counter girl from Bally’s. Clearly his last girl friend, a fellow architect who spoke 7 languages and was educated in the U.S. and Britain was not good enough for him or the business analyst who married the admin. who can’t ever make her rent. This after he dated and dumped the corporate safety analyst. Titles, jobs and education aren’t everything but geesh. These are brothers who ALWAYS said they wanted a sister who was on the ball, business and career-wise, by the way.”
you could (read: “should”) have stopped right here…
“…Titles, jobs and education aren’t everything…”
“Black love is a beautiful thing”
I couldn’t agree more. As for the job titles, I’ve personally experienced the opposite. The guys that I know prefer women who have good careers and have their own money. The higher I get in my career, the more guys that I have interested in me. Now it’s to the point that I don’t know if a guy wants me for me or because I have a good job.
check out the big titles on Leila!
“The higher I get in my career, the more guys that I have interested in me.”
we like big tit-eees too not just titles. i will however take the cashola.
I-N-D-E-P-E-N-D-E-N-T d0 you know what that means mayne? she got her own house, she got her own car, two jobs, work hard… Boosie.
i agree with Champ degrees and money aint everything. don’t get to high on our horses with these letters behind our names and 2, 3 lil dollars.
say something smart
Something smart.
watch ur mouth there Wondermous before you get something stuffed in it. you wish.
heh, heh, heh, (inhales) whoooo!
“Watch ur mouth there Wondermous….”
Nah, I’ll let you do that. And stuff deez.
LMAO @ stuff deez
dissed and dismissed GK!
hug yourself:)
Hey I wants me one of them Michelle types! I know she knows someone she needs to help out. A soror (is she a member?), fellow former classmate, sumptin!
Hoping to get next to sista girl during one of the state sponsored balls and ask for the hookup!!!
That is, unless the Secret Service takes me out first.
you know, i’m one of those educated miss independent types and i stan for my blue collar men.
maybe i’m an anomaly but i dont really want the white-collar looking boy. i want my man dirty and tired when he gets home from work. i wanna hear about how he almost lost his hand on the job. i wouldnt mind if he snored or his feet stink. thats just me.
i wanna hear about how he almost lost his hand on the job.
*here lies overit*
*here lies gem next to her e-twin overit*
You are SO ridiculous for this post.
I definitely have a thing for mixed brothas, but this was prior to barack running the race. This is also a habit i am TRYING so hard to break, i promise.
Honestly, I think Michelle and Obama are gonna do well for Black love in this country. i mean Obama will singlehandedly help keep hope alive for black men, cuz yall are barely hangin on by a thread. We are ready to quit all of YALL no sooner than we can muster up the guts to cross over. Barack and Michelle give us a little more hope for the black family. All is not lost. you can be a successful black woman with your own thing goin on and still get yourself a good black man. That’s what michelle means to me. he might be a smoker, but hey you work with what you’ve got!
“We are ready to quit all of YALL no sooner than we can muster up the guts to cross over.”
Girl…speak for yo self. lol. I love the brothas.
But I DO get the gist of it and I feel ya.
I can’t quit black men. They’re the only ones who will have me. Men of other races don’t give me a second look. I’ve never understood why. My hair hasn’t always been this nappy.
lol
lmao!! white guys enjoy my nappy hair more than any brotha has…
I just heard from a reliable source that it’s because I have too much azz.
Oh well.
well, thats just effin ridiculous! azz is universal! everyone loves azz.
Naw. I used to work with a brotha who was a breast man. He didn’t like the azz at all.
“I just heard from a reliable source that it’s because I have too much azz.”
this statement is useless without pics
I don’t need no pics to prove my statements, Champ. Where are your pics to prove that you are a “champ”???
PBG, no such pics [will ever] exist.
“PBG, no such pics [will ever] exist.”
***officially anoiting gem of the ocean as my number one hater, narrowly beating out intellectual hedonist, the 8th wonder, and the people who work at banana republic in shadyside***
*taking a bow*
thank you. thank you. no autographs, please.
Amen!!! He loves my “poofy hair” as it is, and has threatened serious bodily harm if I straighten it, which I do every winter anyways…
I guess we gon’ be fighting then.
Amen!!! He loves my “poofy hair” as it is, and has threatened serious bodily harm if I straighten it, which I do every winter anyways…
I guess we gon’ be fighting then.”
I was with a guy like this for a while.
Until he started calling me “momma”
I quickly departed.
I’ve dated a couple of white guys, a Rican and a dude from some other Latin American country. But my eye always wonders to the brotha.
Can’t let that go.
V dot, THAT is what I’m scared of. I’m attracted to brothas first, so if I do decide to not hold the fact that Todd is melanin deficient against him, will I get all disoriented when Todd and I are in the self checkout lane and s*xy chocolate is scanning his groceries with so much finesse I can’t help but imagine that I’m the Philadelphia Cream Cheese going across the scanner…then the celery…then the Egg Beaters..then the head of lettuce, which he can’t find the price of , at which point I scream out “Its free! It’s free, you can have it, TAKE ME NOWWWWWW”.
Then Todd will shake me out of my reverie and ask what’s gotten into me. By then, s*xy chocolate will be getting his receipt, groceries in hand, and will walk out of my life forever.
Will I be salty for the rest of my life???
**Dear God, it’s me Overit**
“**Dear God, it’s me Overit**”
Okay…you are gonna make me dig out my Judy Blume collection.
and LMAO. lololol.
Me and one said white guy were at dinner and a fyne specimen of negritude was at another table. I could not concentrate on my food. I was just thinking how I could ditch this white boy so I could go give my number to the hottie.
a fyne specimen of negritude
love it!!!
LMAO!! This WHOLE thing had me in stitches.
Overit, you STOOPID!
By the by, for the educated Black folk who are wondering where the commas are, I wrote that to be read in a Six from Blossom voice, fast, frantic and verklemptish.
OMG. Blossom!
Okay I was NOT the demographic for that show but I watched it anyway.
Mayim Balik was cool (then. lol).
what is mayim bialik doin now? i remember she died like 5 times while i was in college! lol
what is mayim bialik doin now? i remember she died like 5 times while i was in college! lol
she got a neuroscience degree from ucla. smart bee.
——-* The More You Know!
overit commas are played. hear me now believe me later.
hola at me when you get to the future.
heh heh heh (inhales) whooooooo!
six is the snizzle a couple people thought had a big butt, right?
*smh at my e-twin*
six is the snizzle a couple people thought had a big butt, right?
yep, prob how she ended on the Parkers.
They’re the only ones who will have me.
i have a similar problem. as much as i love brothas, i’m open to dating outside the color lines. as “racially ambiguous” as i may look, i don’t get a lot of play from 2520s (i have from indian and middle eastern dudes).
i guess i’m just too gangsta for the melanin deficient…
see historically, my problem has been the opposite…i didnt date my first black man til i was 24! i was just convinced they didnt want me…so i partook of the others and now the crossover comes naturally for me.
i would certainly prefer a black man….but im open to the idea that my happiness may come in a lighter package.
The end all be all to me is Happiness.
If you’re happy, does it really matter who is making you so?
No, it doesn’t.
no, it sure doesnt…
“i guess i’m just too gangsta for the melanin deficient…”
Gemie, I had this one 2520 tell me I was hood, I was like dang if you think I am hood I would hate for you to meet someone that is really hood, cause I am the furthest thing from that.
I agree that I also atract Indian and Middle Eastern dudes, and African dudes too.
But I have never intentionally went looking for anyone other than the brothas
I attract the Latinos, for some odd reason. White men tend to stare or say something overly foolish.
Brothas are the ones who really holla, though.
2520′s holleration is a little different though..sometimes you realize it was a holleration once you all the down the street and then you realize its too late.
But if I was gonna switch lanes down in the midatlantic (i would do it in a HEART BEAT IN NYC)..he couldn’t be hoodie hood. I like my 2520s straight 2520.
Here here. Why get a ghetto white boy?
My 2520s have also been blonde/blue. I figure if I was gonna go white…
i once made the mistake of messin with a ghetto white boy. everyday i wanted to punch him in the face.
“everyday i wanted to punch him in the face”
a clear sign a relationship isn’t working.
““everyday i wanted to punch him in the face””
note to self: never make your 2520 a social experiment..it could go wrong, fast.
if someone don’t tell me what 2520 is!!! I am going to pee on someone’s leg!
*feeling left out as hell*
@AT, 2520=white people
it’s all (relatively) friendly here. don’t go around peeing on people. lol.
“if someone don’t tell me what 2520 is!!! I am going to pee on someone’s leg!”
I was sitting @ The Park dog-watching when I first read this statement. Guffawing and chortling ensued.
i once made the mistake of messin with a ghetto white boy. everyday i wanted to punch him in the face.
lol…i cant believe i missed this before
I had one 2520 following me round the grocery store asking me if I needed help. Mind you, all I had was a carton of milk and a essence magazine.At first I thought he was checking on me NOT checking FOR me. It was annoying cause all I wanted to do was read the magazine before I left the store,anyway.
i feel you, IH. i have never intentionally gone looking for non-brothas either. i loves em so!
Gem says:
“i guess i’m just too gangsta for the melanin deficient…”
…for some reason Gem i dont think you have a gangsta bone in ur body. you might have HAD a gangsta bone in ya a time or two but…
…and what kind of Gem are you btw? black pearl, pink pearl, mother of pearl, garden variety kicking rock, river rock…
say something smart
…for some reason Gem i dont think you have a gangsta bone in ur body. you might have HAD a gangsta bone in ya a time or two but…
lmao i <3 you, GK. but why you gotta play me?? why would you ever doubt my gangstaness?? i got mo ppl…
and what type of Gem am i?? i’m a jewel of the highest quality. something like a stone-cold fox who rocks worlds and holds it down like boulders. you can see my pearl only if you know how to open my oyster….
lmao i <3 you, GK. but why you gotta play me?? why would you ever doubt my gangstaness?? i got mo ppl…
u gots Mo’ people Gem. i’ll testify to the gangsta… i’m wit’ u. So we should hang out.
Gem says:
“and what type of Gem am i?? i’m a jewel of the highest quality. something like a stone-cold fox who rocks worlds and holds it down like boulders. you can see my pearl only if you know how to open my oyster….”
oysters open up to reveal their jewel to me “stone cold fox.” …and every raw stone doesn’t posess the qualities to get cut. so lemme know if ur precious or semi-precious. mmm hmmm. …and my intuition tells me that the only thing gully about you or your gem would be me if i could feel something worth cutting. mm hmmm.
caress urself.
awww *hugs pgh muse* thanks boo! btw it was great seeing you friday!
and i can testify to pgh muse’s fabulosity–she fly yall!
“…for some reason Gem i dont think you have a gangsta bone in ur body”
yeah. “gem” and “gangsta” go together about as well as black and bleach.
*Sigh* My love for brothas and I, us NEVER part
Liz I heart you and I hear ya, for the first time in my life I started dating a Puerto Rican dude, granted his momma is Black but still. I am there with you, slowly the brothas were like that loose ends jam “hanging on a string”.
I agree that Michelle and Barack are going to make it in vogue to be a black power couple regardless of if either or both of you pass the brown paper bag test. Black love en vogue who’d a thunk?
girl, i crossed over long ago! lol…im equal opportunity when it comes to skin color. that said, i hope the black power couple does come back, cuz i would love to be in on that!
*sigh* me too.
I’ve been real lazy on my crossover game. But that doesn’t mean I won’t do it!!!
dang, lizzie that sounds like a threat! lmao!
*i’ll turn this car right around!!*
I picture her saying this with a stern finger pointing lol
do we need a VSS union and sh*t? Sounds like a strike is a comin!
lmao
“I’ve been real lazy on my crossover game”
so basically you’re exactly like mike bibby.
d@mn. smh.
I agree. a sista has been pondering her options lately…and while doing so, trying to forget the one 2520 in undergrad who had me giving all male 2520′s the side eye for a couple of months.
ooooh, do tell!
lol. let’s just say i am not trying to be anybody’s token black chick. long story short, certain comments were made and hiding in a room and being sneaked out of a house as not to be seen by ol boy’s racist roommate was not the highlight of my life.
wowsers
damn…im thankful i havent had that experience *knock wood*
yeah, that would put me right off the 2520s
Yep. I am itchin to make a crossover move these days. A brotha better not even LOOK at me crazy!!!
liz sez: “dont TEST me!!!”
“A brotha better not even LOOK at me crazy!!!”
***looking at liz like she was a mailbox***
This made me choke on my http://www.saveur.com/article/Food/Apple-Clafouti & http://www.recipezaar.com/Chicken-Fried-Bacon-WCream-Gravy-156010 & then I knocked over my ginger spiked orange kool aid.
Somebody’s got to pay.
LMAO!! Champ, so you spend ur days ice grilling innocent mailboxes?? Sorry but that pron you ordered is late. It aint the poor mailbox’s fault.
this too made me laugh… out loud!!
liz, i crossed over once (literally), but i don’t think it was because of being fed up (well maybe a little…it is los angeles) i think it had more to do with wanting to broaden my options. this particular guy approached me & asked me out, something brothas aren’t trained to do out here on the left coast.
theyre not? so how do brothas get dates?
good question.
Telekinesis, maybe?
Yeah, when I was out on the west coast, the black girls whom I even walked in the direction of all said the same thing “not interested”. I mean, what made them think I wanted to chat with them and not say, go pickup my pride which apparently kept getting drop kicked to the floor. . .
kamakula come here baby I’ll stroke your ego, and anything else that needs a good stroke, I’m all for the uplift of the black man. Like our President-elect said, everyone has to do their part.
and IH is gonna do as many parts as she can!
he he he!
we may need your help on this. . . there aren’t that many parts, but I do require a laying-on of hands. . .
well you know I am a PK so I have first hand knowledge of the practice of laying on of hands and I have never had any complaints with how I do lay my hands. So you let me know how I can uplift you
tanisha asks:
“theyre not? so how do brothas get dates?” [if brothers aren't trained to ask women/sistas out on dates as Miss Patterson reports]
what are women/sistas trained for? …and how do they get dates? or is this a personal thing. i KNOW there’s not a shortage of men and women/sistas and brothas dating on the left coast.
say something smart.
yeah, i can’t even front. west coast brothas are pretty lame.
“We are ready to quit all of YALL no sooner than we can muster up the guts to cross over.”
I always think about jumping over to another race, but I don’t have the guts… plus I think about chocolate arms and muscular backs full suck on my full lips and I get weak in the knees. [oh my GAWD I'm over here fantasizing!]
“i mean Obama will singlehandedly help keep hope alive for black men, cuz yall are barely hangin on by a thread. We are ready to quit all of YALL no sooner than we can muster up the guts to cross over”
oh gosh, lol
btw, i think this might be the single longest comment reply thread in the history of vsb. good job, lizzard
HAHAH! Thanks Champ!!! I was up in here trynna speak my MIND. (And procrastinate on work too
)
Champ, I’m hoping brothers will rise up to the occasion and start putting their best forward. I hope they will stop running from commitment and stop trying to be players.
For us women, we should continue to strive to be the best we can be and stop settling.
so, just to make sure i’m not missing anything, women need to keep doing everything theyre doing, and guys are the ones who need to step their games up.
thats it, right?
thats what i take from this as well…
pretty much.
I tried to post this profanity free response and was marked for moderation. Reposting.
Michelle Obama is a package: she’s smart, driven, stylish, attractive.
I am hoping that the Obamanation will let brothas see that you can have a strong woman and not feel like less of a man. Gone are the days when achieving brothas wife under-achieving sistas (don’t know about y’all but I see this alot in my circle of friends, i.e. the architect who married the counter girl from Bally’s. Clearly his last girl friend, a fellow architect who spoke 7 languages and was educated in the U.S. and Britain was not good enough for him).
I also hope an Obamanation will bring back the idea of a whole black family. Black love is a beautiful thing. It’s great to see a black woman and a black man working toward a shared goal
“I am hoping that the Obamanation will let brothas see that you can have a strong woman and not feel like less of a man”
That is a hope of mine as well, but also I hope it shows that the woman has to have a certain respect for he man and not throw it in his face, but use her powers for good to be supportive.
Notorious:
I agree. The woman can’t lose her mind and start yapping about her earnings and achievements. As an aside, a white friend of mine said to her husband, in front of me “I earn the bigger paycheck.” Sadly, I was kinda expecting him to hit her.
He didn’t, thank goodness.
But yeah…a woman with her ish together should not be pointing out that she has her ish together and should support her man.
I cringe whenever I see a woman emasculate her man in front of others. Don’t check your man in public. All it will do is make you look like a nagging b*tch and all it will do is make him wish he wasn’t wit yo’ ol’ “over-feminist” face.
i agree. but i don’t like to see a dude check his girl in public either (my dad used to do this to my mom all the time and it was so embarrassing and degrading). if you’re in a relationship, all checking and head-to-head battles need to be done behind closed doors.
YES Gem, I wholeheartedly concur.
Relationship Commandment #1:
—————————————–
Thou shalt checketh the other only in the bedroom. All checkethery that happens in public is punishable by withholding of the Pooty Tang for a yet to be figured out time.
**pounds gavel**
I freakin’ second it!!
OMG-I just shot Sprite out of my nose!! That was too funny (my side hurts), but I do agree!
agreed!
I hate to see couples air their dirty laundry…
Is it wrong that I am secretly hoping he is at home bytch slapping her right now??
Yes? OK, then. I unwish it. I’ve earned enough hell points this weekend.
you startin’ early huh PBG? lol.
i know right! AND she tried to rock the unwish!?!?
PBG, aint no take backs! Ur hell points have been credited and are waiting to be cashed in for your express metrorail to the river styx.
There are no take backs on wishes
OK, I re-wish it then! And I hope they end up on either “Snapped!” or “Cops” for my twisted amusement.
YESSSS Notorious!! Males should not feel threatened by Alpha females.
Agreed.
I always wonder what’s behind that. What would make you belittle your man or embarrass him in public?
Do unto others…
I could NEVER do that to a man, especially a man I’m with. It’s something just inherently wrong about that.
Cutting a man down in public in front of others for what u perceive as a wrong being fixed is a defense mechanism in a twisted psyche of insecurity and jus plain ol’ asshole-ness.
i agree with this..there is a time and a place. and the place and time isn’t in public. Vice versa..i would hope i wouldn’t be checked in front of God and errybody either.
“YESSSS Notorious!! Males should not feel threatened by Alpha females.”
***somewhat unrelated champ pet peeve***
i’m thinking that after we bury the term “swagger”, we can issue a country-wide moratorium on the use of the term “alpha”. we throw this term around and brand each other with it all willy-nilly and sh*t, but only something like 3 to 5 percent of the population truly can be considered alphas.
usually, when people are using the term alpha, theyre really just referring to having a type-a personality, which is far from the same thing.
Not to hate on those chicks at all, but the men who actively seek out this type of woman truly sadden me. I really do hope this changes lol.
you and me both, liz….and i see it ALL the time too. i hope the tides will turn now so that it’ll no longer be the case that the more education a black woman has, the less likely she is to marry…
Not to hate on those chicks at all, but the men who actively seek out this type of woman truly sadden me. I really do hope this changes lol.
this is the thing: its not that guys intentionally choose “unambitious” or “under-achieving” women, its all about possession of “wife-able” qualities.
i think women sometimes forget that the qualities we look for in a wife are typically completely different than the qualities you all look for in a husband. while many of the stereotypically husband-ey qualities can be found on a resume, none of the wifey qualities can. none. not one. zero. zip.
concur wholeheartedly
Truth.
great point, Champie. you are good for something sometimes (in addition to buying drinks, that is
thanks)
Awww Gem…
How sweet. Yeah.. i cosign this.Thanx 4 the beverage.. and Good Morning, Gem of the Ocean! How was CJ’s?
hey girl *waving* we ended up not going to CJ’s. Champie was complaining and i didn’t have a pacifier to shut him up so… we ended up at an “spades tournament/old school party” out in churchill. Champie made the mistake off pickin i-cut-over-my-partner Killa K instead of moi as his spades partner. needless to say they lost lol. it was fun tho.
how was the concert??
Ursula was cool… she had a kinda ethereal wind chime breathy earth mama thing going on… I’m usually into that but was kinda feeling gully and wanted something a little different. .. but all in all it was a good nite. Afterward i went back to Ava and danced. The Lounge had some techno party going on for the 2520′s but Ava was cool. Glad ya’ll had a good time playing spades. That sounds fun!!! There are a few events coming up that i’ll post on my blog (www.museacd.blogspot.com) so when u get the time (and when I do – u kno i gots be be’s lol) maybe we can connect and tear the club up
“Champie made the mistake off pickin i-cut-over-my-partner Killa K instead of moi as his spades partner”
It was definitely a bad night. You should’ve seen the look of dissapointment on The Champs face. I doubt we’ll be spade’s partners again.
Who wants to be my spade partner? Anyone…
**crickets chirping**
no problem and sh*t, ladies. it makes me feel good as a man when i can afford to buy four two dollar drinks.
this almost made me choke on my water.
bwaaahaa…
this made me laugh…
$2, $5, $10..don’t matter. Thanks for the drinks
Sad to say, but I agree.
I think women sometimes flaunt the wrong things when trying to hook a man. Sure it’s nice to have advanced degrees, fulfill all of these goals and make X amount of dollars, but guys really don’t care about that despite what you may think. They really want someone who will make them feel like a man (and this can be achived through various means), while holding the home fort down.
This is too true! So many women think just cuz they have the degrees they can be half stepping on the appearance and basic wifable qualities.
“So many women think just cuz they have the degrees they can be half stepping on the appearance and basic wifable qualities.”
Yeah. Learn to cook. And give scalp massages. And bake cookies.
*making mental notes and checking calendar*
do you give scalp greasing lessons, V dot??
“give scalp massages”
LOL. I’ll be signing up for lessons as well.
I agree w/Champ’s statements.
I agree w/Champ’s statements.
everyone’s lives would be better if they could live by that simple mantra
I saw a quick article in the metro a few weeks ago that said men usually marry women who have similar educational backgrounds as their mothers. Thinking about my own brother, uncles, cousins, etc. that made alot of sense. I think men and women generally seek to find a partner that will provide them with a similar home life to what they grew up with. This is just the beginning stages of putting that familiar wheel in motion.
“I saw a quick article in the metro a few weeks ago that said men usually marry women who have similar educational backgrounds as their mothers.”
can you send me a link to that?
I’ll see what I can do. It was a quick little blurb but I might be able to find it online.
I’ll send it to your email before the end of the day.
I’ll send it to your email before the end of the day.
thanks and sh*t
From what I can tell about Michelle and Barack, they represent how it should be, men and women were created to be complementary. There is no hierarchy in their marriage, and they work TOGETHER. He gives her the respect she deserves, she does the same. It takes two people to make that happen.
Right when I was about to re-evaluate my criteria for a guy, here comes Barack. Barack told me to slow down, I’m not crazy for wanting the things I do, and to hold on! So I’m holding on.
Barely.
Help.
Can I get a witness?
**Mt. Pleasant Baptist Church lock-in**
hallelujah!!
Both Barack and Michelle made me do a double take in what I was doing in the dating world. Pssh! NOT giving out any more passes. you can’t get right, you get left!
“Pssh! NOT giving out any more passes. you can’t get right, you get left”
AMEN!
Amen! he sure did come along and tell us not to lower our standards…
**choir**
**head usher**
**liturgist**
*passing the collection plate*
*pastor’s birthday offering*
*call to prayer*
**Hajj**
*children’s church*
*youth church*
**new building church fund**
*second offering for apportionment*
**Guest Deacon Sermon of Praise**
**offering prayer for those on the sick and shut-in list**
**rosary beads**
***Kneels in the pew, prepares to say penance***
^^^ Ya’ll SO need help! LOL!
This sure is a long a** service!
***Benediction***
LMAO @ benediction
lawd he’p meh!
LMAO we all need EVERYTHING we just said in our lives. Just foolish.
e-twin. i don’t think you can substitute your mardi gras beads for rosarie beads. you gon get struck with lightening…
That was funlarious!!!!!……….
mardi gras beads are an acceptable substitute for the rosary.
in fact, we threw rosary beads from a float during the zulu parade in 2007.
gemmy! why you gotta call me out, now errbody lookin at me funny.
ok so i never had a twin before. and while i feel great e-love for you e-twin, i have the need to uphold e-sibling rivalry. so…. tag you’re it!
*lady with the hats*
I’m mad @ this right here…*chortle*
“There is no hierarchy in their marriage, and they work TOGETHER. He gives her the respect she deserves, she does the same. It takes two people to make that happen.”
glorrrrraaay…competition doesn’t belong in a relationship..unless you;re racing your man to the boudoir.
this—>racing your man to the boudoir<–can be sooooo fun.
“this—>racing your man to the boudoir<–can be sooooo fun.”
Unless someone trips and falls. Then thats not fun as much as
slightly funnytragic.Not tragic at all. You laugh. Laughter is an aphrodisiac. The party gets started on the floor in the hallway…
it sure is..you can get it started where is @zz fell or where you tripped him at…LOL..one time for sillyse#ex.
i love me some silly sex!! a man that laughs a lot is so sexy to me
lmao! let’s not talk about things starting on the floor. more fun. *memories*
until you stub your pinky toe.
now THAT’s tragic.
EXACTLY!! U’d be the pinky toe hurtinest mofo!
any thoughts of sex would be cast aside whilst I attended to the hurt toe
this actually happened to me!! it was my pinky toe and the one next to it. hurt like a b*tch!! i had to prop my foot up on pillows and ice it. but err umm we kept the party going tho…
that’s my e-twin! lol..
“but err umm we kept the party going tho”
reminds me of kings of comedy, i think it was d.l. hughley with jesus and the wine, “gon and keep tha party going”.
lol yeah that’s what i was thinking after i typed it.
but yeah, it was easy to get over the pain, just had to refocus the circulation elsewhere, ya dig??
“There is no hierarchy in their marriage”
theres hierarchy in every relationship, especially marriages. just because you dont see it doesnt mean in doesnt exist
I bet you Barack and Michelle have a hierarchy. I think Michelle runs the show but Barack is so smooth and generally nonchalant that it doesnt bother him. IMHO of course
I’m willing to bet a months pay you’re right!
and you both would be owing me money in a month
Hmmm… i don’t think so. In relationships people have roles… but if each person is respectful and appreciative of the other’s role and position then what is the need for hierarchy and competition? just because they fill different positions doesn’t mean that one is better or more necessary… or more powerful. Each is vital to the family so why compete? I think that in GOOD relationships a hierarchy isn’t even part of the frame work. Everyone likes to be appreciated. btw… good morning
i co-sign all over this comment, pgh muse.
Champ wrote:
“theres hierarchy in every relationship, especially marriages. just because you dont see it doesnt mean in doesnt exist”
you dam skippy. there are not 2 presidents just 1. doesn’t mean there HAS to be competition within the relationship but somebody is the leader/franchise player and calling the shots ladies. play out of position anybody male or female and see who’s holding the reigns 9 out of 10 times. that’s ur decision maker and power player.
i disagree with this concept wholeheartedly. this just has a feel of negativity and how is competion good for a relationship? I know that a man usually likes to “feel” like he’s in charge and all that… but in reality, it’s usually the mother that holds the family down.. at least that’s been my experience. Instead of a man poking out his chest and getting all ridiculous he should appreciate the what the mother does.. and vise/versa… and there wouldn’t be the conflict.
you can have hierarchy without competition though. no relationship is perfectly equal, miss muse. it may be 51-49 or 50.5-49.5, but someone always has more “power” than the other. relationships cant work without that
**scratching head**
uh… ok… but, let’s look at it this way. if I like you adn you like me… and we’re both datable then where’s the hierarchy? Isn’t this where most people start? Both are young (ish), attractive, working, and datable… so where does the concept of a hierarchy even come into play?
“Both are young (ish), attractive, working, and datable… so where does the concept of a hierarchy even come into play?”
its innate. we don’t usually consciously do it, but we do assign roles to each other in relationships, and in those roles a hierarchy is formed. the delineation of said roles depends on myriad factors (earning power, investment in relationship, personality, “catch-ability”) but with all sucessful relationships, people play their part. one of those parts is the proverbial majority owner, the person who, if things are at a perfect stalemate, holds the tiebreaker
i hear u… and this may be the case when dating, but when you love someone this goes straight out of the window… and this is when you realize that you would drink their dirty bathwater and all those visions of heirarchy’s go out the window cause you just want that person around. People (men) usually come to this realization after fc*king the relationship up and the person on the receiving end of the bullsh*t has gotten fed up…
It’s like the women from my Big Fat Greek Wedding said, the man is the head, but I am the neck and I turn him which way I need.
I don’t want to be the head, ever, but I will gladly be the neck.
ok, hierarchy in the negative sense. when i say men and women were created to be complementary, that includes their strength and weaknesses too. where my man is weak, hopefully i can be strong and vice versa.
where my man is weak, hopefully i can be strong and vice versa.
awww that’s beautiful e-twin.
“where my man is weak, hopefully i can be strong and vice versa.”
That ish just almost tested my thuggery. Overit, thats saccharin and sh*t
Just as an aside.
About this –> (don’t know about y’all but I see this alot in my circle of friends, i.e. the architect who married the counter girl from Bally’s. Clearly his last girl friend, a fellow architect who spoke 7 languages and was educated in the U.S. and Britain was not good enough for him).
Why don’t we assume that it’s because he was more compatible with the first one than the second one?
Don’t get me wrong, I am always being told that I am one of those “overachieving chicks” and I have my share of dudes mention it as a reason why they bolted, but ultimately maybe they just liked the other one better?
No?
No?
Yes.
Reminds me of the Erykah Badu song, “Clever”.
I mean if it happens to work out that way, fine. But I have had men tell me they specifically only date chicks who are not their equals. that’s the BS *I* have a problem with, and I wouldn’t even have beef over this if i hadn’t seen it with my own eyes.
ive havent met any men bold enough to admit it, but actions speak louder…
Yeah. A friend of mine says he prefers teachers or executive assistants cuz they aren’t ‘career focused.’ His words, not mine. What an insult to dedicated teachers and kick-a$$ admins.
whaaaaaaa?
I know. I know.
the VSB’s call US crazy…but there are a lot of twisted men on these streets.
oh yes there are…very twisted.
“the VSB’s call US crazy…but there are a lot of twisted men on these streets.”
lol…both can be true
“What an insult to dedicated teachers and kick-a$$ admins.”
For real, because every teacher I know is career focused. What a crock of shyt.
Yes and no.
If it were truly so. But this dude in particular always wanted a woman who worked out. Who traveled. blah blah. The counter girl is cool – do not get me wrong, titles and education are not all that – but she ain’t never left the states, doesn’t like to fly (I cannot make this ish up!) and, though she works at Bally’s, does not work out. He’s a marathoner. Just makes me wonder.
“Don’t get me wrong, I am always being told that I am one of those “overachieving chicks” and I have my share of dudes mention it as a reason why they bolted, but ultimately maybe they just liked the other one better? ”
perhaps..perhaps not…I think sometimes we women don’t know how to “frame” our ambition in converstation with the men we dig/love etc. Some black men don’t either. I get seriously turned off if what you do goes longer than 5 or 10 minutes of date conversation. I personally don’t feel like i am what i do.
there;s also another side. If a man is ambitious and running around in circles-he gets next’d. If your gonna talk the yang yang…have mad career deliverables to show for it.
pipe dreams bore me.
“pipe dreams bore me.”
On the other hand, dreams after pipe aren’t so boring. hehe
dreams right after pipe mean the pipe was laid right. aint nothin wrong with that.
co-sign.
true…those are the best dreams to have.
Don’t get me wrong, I am always being told that I am one of those “overachieving chicks” and I have my share of dudes mention it as a reason why they bolted, but ultimately maybe they just liked the other one better?
i was thinking the same thing—trying to see multiple sides to the situation. even if dude did pick girly becuz she was a step below him, i’m not really bothered. we all have our preferences, prejudices, requisites, red flags, etc. if a man feels he needs to be with some one not his equal (less educated, less ambitious, less successful, whatev), i say let him have her. no/low ambition-having, unsuccessful, uneducated chicks need love too. i feel the same about brothas who date Beckys—if that’s what he likes… i don’t always like brothas reasonings behind their SO choices, but it really has NOTHING to do with me (if he likes HER type he damn sure couldn’t rock with ME) and it makes no sense for me to bend myself outta shape worrying about it.
i appreciate brothas who aren’t threatened by and feel secure around sistas who have their ish together and are just as much go-getters as they are. but for all the rest, i just keep on moving and try not to give them much thought. becuz they damn sure ain’t thinking about me.
big ole co-sign!
and on a similar note…i will generally never say that someone is “too picky” for the same reason…your standards are your standards and who am i to tell you youre wrong for wanting that?? i just dont want to hear no complaining whilst you wait!
“i just dont want to hear no complaining whilst you wait!”
So true. If you want a guy who’s cocoa brown, 6’3″, 195, bald, own in a 2 bed, 2 bath in XXX area, has a master’s degree, is in a management position, makes 90K or up, never been married, no kids, attends church regularly, has a six pack, likes chick flicks and enjoys long talks about where the relationship is headed, fine.
But I don’t wanna hear about how you can’t find Mr. Right.
lmao exactly!!
Dang… so I guess I need to stop asking for a GODLY chocolate corporate man with a body like an NFL player, huh? LMAO.
nah girl, thats the point! you dont ever have to stop asking for what you want….just that if you know that what you want is a small proportion of the population, dont be surprised when it takes a long time to find that!
And ain’t it taking forever too??? LOL.
Come on man, I was supposed to be married at 28.. I’ll be 28 on Friday.
ok V..you went too far…but he does need to like bravo and the style channel..the rest of that list is crazy LOL..
seriously tho..thats not the list im talking about. Im hoping that a lot of this isn’t on ANY woman’s list. and Im also hoping Sunny is playing down this thread too.
and Im also hoping Sunny is playing down this thread too.”
LOL. I”m thinking about it. Maaannnnnn.
*return co-signing similar note*
true dat. woooord.
Gem: you deep girl.
you think so?? i’m surprised i’m making sense. becuz this head scarf is cutting of the blood supply to my brain so O2 is a bit… dee…pleeeee…did
no/low ambition-having, unsuccessful, uneducated chicks need love too
this made me laugh.
Since when did having a strong woman make someone feel less like a man? I think I may need to call out some ppl as p**sies.
Hmm, I believe those stars are supposed to represent the letters u and r. Or maybe it’s some other letter near r. I can never remember until I get the blank looks. . .
Champ, I don’t really think of you as dark skinned. but recently i have realized, unless you’re the shade of wesley snipes, i don’t consider you darkskinned. There’s light bright, brown, and then wesley snipes dark skinned in my spectrum lol. Sad, considering there are like 800 diff shades of black people, but i don’t have time to sit and classify all 800 of them.
to me, theres four main classifications:
light
light-brown
brown
dark-brown
dark
obviously, there are hundreds of variations to each shade, but i think those are our five basics.
i consider myself to be dark-brown, btw
ya forgot purple
And Bruise (aka blue-black)
And Blurple.
*deceased*
Told you Killer Beez was gonna swarm. Pouring out some mead. lol
Yo why did I meet some one w/ leather for skin. I mean if they was in a dimmly lit room, you would wonder where their hair line started. They were the color of their infinity’s black leather seats.
“Yo why did I meet some one w/ leather for skin. I mean if they was in a dimmly lit room, you would wonder where their hair line started. They were the color of their infinity’s black leather seats.”
As a dark skinned brother I prolly shouldnt be laughing at this . .. but the imagery was WAY too much. . LoL
hm imagine talking to him. he was from mississippi
Leather seats?
I’m so done with this comment.
Dayum.
*walks off*
btw That was not the last of these people I was able to experience in person. There was this one guy who stayed across the hall in college. His brother knocked on the door. Now mind you it was night time and the hallway light had yet to come on. So after checking the peep hole for the second time and thinking no one was there. Then they knocked as I was looking in the peep hole. I opened the door all spooked n stuff. This guy of east indian discent I truely couldn’t tell where his hair line was. I totally invited him in the apt cuz I wanted to get a look in the light. smh
melanin mole lookin people happens.
there is also high yella, yella and red. And rich black and high black.
High black? SMH
“High black? SMH”
LOL
you forgot Miles Davis in your Classification
miles davis is his own classification for everything
LOL @ Liz, don’t hold back now!
In defense of Luna Luvvie, I rebuke thee Champ! Don’t get hexed.
Now, I definitely have always had a thing for darker brothas. I don’t know what it is, House Party or not, Kid was funny to me, but not so cute. It also depends on how you define light, Obama is not Al B Sure light to me. Either way, I don’t think he will bring light skinned brothas back so much as he gives hope for the Black family. The love that they share, the respect he gives her an EQUAL partner, not some Stepford wife, walking ten steps behind him, makes me smile.
Either way, I don’t think dark brothas have anything to worry about. If anything, Obama just raised the bar for brothas, PERIOD. Step it up guys!
“It also depends on how you define light, Obama is not Al B Sure light to me”
Yeah. He has some brown to him. And those lips…
You wouldn’t feel like you were selling out the dark brothas if you were with him.
all this talk about House Party has me wanting to get my movie out! and i always had a crush on Play. i thought he was just adorable!
Play was a cutie.
“i always had a crush on Play”
Me too… Kid looked like Light Brite and he was corny.
word! play was smooooove!
“Either way, I don’t think dark brothas have anything to worry about. ”
*wiping brow* Good news . . lol
In defense of Luna Luvvie, I rebuke thee Champ! Don’t get hexed.
can you speak american, please?
can you speak american, please?
Who you gon’ scrimmage, like you the champion…I got Luna Luvvie’s back that’s all Champie:)
Thats why I digs you Overit.
wow… Luna Luvvie…
*finally clicked- Alohomora!*
lol @ beez, you’re the best.
America can do what it wants, this chick will ALWAYS love a dark skinned brotha. always.
i’m partial to chocolatey brothas myself. i’ve been told i’m lighter skinned (i’m brown dammit!) and i just can’t too much see myself with some one my shade or lighter. my bare skin against dark skin is just so lovely….
sorry. TMI?? i had a moment. my bad.
nah girl…you got India.Arie’s Brown Skin playin in my head now! lol….im dark skinned and i know a lot of dark skinned folk who would prefer someone light, but not me! i love my chocolate skin and i love it on chocolate men too….and then we’ll have gorgeous little chocolate babies and all will be right with the world! *le sigh*
My grandma always says black children are an endangered species. Nobody wants to have black children anymore, like real dark skinned babies.
I suspect you and I are the only ones left shatani.
I wanted two brown babies. Only got one. It never occurred to me that Ike could come out anything other than brown like me and Tina until about a month before his arrival. He came @ Thanksgiving, and I kept staring @ him everyday, hoping for the best. By the time Christmas had come around, he was still light….but I had likeded him by then. So, I kept him.
**inserts more people for PFCDSB (People For the Conception of Dark-Skinned Babies)**
get it e-twin! juxtaposition fo dat a*s!
lmao @ juxtaposition fo da a*s!
I just like Brothas. light or dark. My only requirement is that they like me back…lol.
yes, but i prefer dark skinned brothas who like me back! lol…
Amen!!
I actually extend it to the entire male populace. You can be purple if you wish, as long as you can make me drop the panties while dreaming of a better tomorrow. You get my vote.
“drop the panties while dreaming of a better tomorrow.”
This will be a great headliner for Snoop Dogg, if he ever ran for office
*snicker*
“make me drop the panties while dreaming of a better tomorrow.”
I’d be afraid to meet such a man.
Aww shucks, I’m a pretty friendly guy.
lmao! nice!
lmao! zing!
“You can be purple if you wish, as long as you can make me drop the panties while dreaming of a better tomorrow.”
can i give the panties if i recite the lyrics to “a better tomorrow” (track 10 off of wu-forever)?
“can i give the panties ….”
Please tell me you meant to say “get”.
If not, I can’t come to your apartment after work. I have to umm…wash my hair.
yes, that’s it. wash. my. hair.
If Champ wears panties we must not judge him.
maybe Champ is wearing the 8th Wondra’s panties.
8th did you leave them there for Champie to feel close to you?
I would do anything for love.
But I won’t do that.
fist bump
I e love ya!
I have to umm…wash my hair.
both sets of hair, though, right? (please)
*blinks*
Michelle is a true inspiration to me.
She was willing to put aside her high-power career for the well-being of her family. It’s a thought I keep struggling with (making that sacrifice), so seeing it done so gracefully is inspirational.
And she reminds me of the importance of supporting your man. Even in his wildest dreams that may seem far-fetched to you.
You never know, he may end up becoming, say the President of the United States.
*single tear drops*
air hug PBG, chin up!
This ish right here is what I’m TALM bout. Last week’s event was so much bigger than all of us.
“Yes we can” has never meant so much or been so loaded.
standing next to Luvvie though she don’t need no people.
YES WE CAN!
“She was willing to put aside her high-power career for the well-being of her family. ”
Definitely. I was reading some magazine and they asked Will Smith and Jada Pinkett how they’ve stayed married so long (in Hollywood years) and they gave all this blah blah about couple time and respect. lol. When the truth is she cut back significantly on work. Hard to stay together if you’re not together.
Not saying everyone has to do it – and I’d expect a man to do the same if his woman is on a roller coaster ride to greatness.
“Michelle is a true inspiration to me.”
If Obamanation somehow translates to lighter brothas being back in style, does this mean that browner women are back in style too? I don’t know about y’all, but i was feeling the love on November 5th and on UCLA’s campus of all places. hmmm…
aww ucla. i would trade being on that campus for being on pitt’s now that the cold has really set in…
yeah it’s 30 degrees in Chi. It was 71 on Tuesday.
I had to buy winter staples today. I seem lose gloves and scarves every year.
I still *heart* Chicago though… It’s something about that place.
Yeah me and Chi are beefing right now. This weather dont make NO sense! Its so cold, I think my snot froze inside my nose and cut me.
gross. and lmao.
I’m confused, how did it cut you?
Some things just don’t need to be expounded on.
Snot turned to icicles, man. lol
Snot turned to icicles, man. lol
ummm, next time, i’m gonna need you to listen to 8th wonder
Yeah me and Chi are beefing right now. This weather dont make NO sense! Its so cold, I think my snot froze inside my nose and cut me.
you know, ive always maintained that chicago was the coldest city on earth, lol. i’ve been there twice and each time it felt like a midget was sitting on my shoulders and blowing ice chips in my face.
mind you, this is coming from a guy who grew up in pittsburgh and went to school in buffalo. i know cold, but theres no cold like chicago cold
This Chicago hawk is no joke.
yeah, we had that major switch up here in Pgh too. i was going to visit the Chi in december and then thought to myself “self, why would you do thatt?? it’ll be colder there than here. naaaaaah kid save and go southwest. chicago is for springtime”
“i was going to visit the Chi in december and then thought to myself “self, why would you do thatt??”
Don’t do it, Ms. Gemmie!!! It ain’t worth it! *rocking back and forth*
you are cutting up extra today LuvBoogie, funlarity at its finest!
Co-sign. That’s a deep thought.
Oh I might add (as pointed out by tiffany on twitter), I think Obamanation will make it cool to be BLACK and SMART again (ever?). Hopefully the tales of being smart and doing your homework will stop being looked upon as being a “white” thing among our youth.
ooooh good times! and maybe folks will stop offering me a cookie cuz i went to school and shyt.
lol!!! Not a cookie! lmao.
“oh, so you went to school huh? you got you a degree? so, whatchu want a cookie?!?”
no, sir. i would just like my groceries, thanks.
L.M.A.O.!!!
and maybe people will start saying “oh you talk like Barack” instead of saying “you talk white”
my response to that BS in school was always, “and you think it’s cool to be dumb?”
Thats probably why I got into fights a lot in elementary school. . . well, that and because I’d actually take the lunch money from the bullies and give it back to the kids to whom it belonged.
Yeah, if you can imagine the disappointment on my parent’s faces each time I visited the counselors office at school all occurring at once when after acing all the entrance exams for St. Albans, I was bounced out in the personal interview due to questions about my “disciplinary problems” in school.
You’d think people would question how the three meanest kids at a school suddenly ended up only in fights with the same boy. . . nah, nothing to see here. . .
“Thats probably why I got into fights a lot in elementary school. . . well, that and because I’d actually take the lunch money from the bullies and give it back to the kids to whom it belonged.”
Oooo Kama. U so heroic *in ghetto girl voice*
Robin Hood of 4A lunch- admirable, I sez.
“Hopefully the tales of being smart and doing your homework will stop being looked upon as being a “white” thing among our youth.”
i honestly think that this is more urban legend than actual reality. ive never experienced this personally, and i taught in the blackest school district (98.9 percent) in the state of pa, and the smart kids were treated just like everyone else. they were actually given respect and status in the general population for being smart.
I agree. I never heard it either and I went to school in the subbies but afterschool in the hood. Sounds like some BS people spread around hoping it would actually happen one day.
I’d dissagree. Where do you think I got the nick name sk8er h8er. Apparently having a vocabulary and a little bit of diction in FL makes you ‘a bit of an outsider’ when you have what I called brown skin but was informed was light skinned. This was a bit of a culture shock for a bro from Gary, IN. BTW I was @ a HBCU. Then again the nickname could have been because of the draw I had @ FSU parties. I totally should have capitalized on that but @ the time I was on some. ‘I want a lil woman w/ my complexion or darker.’
*shrugging shoulders*
florida doesnt count
Whew I’m glad to hear this. I thaught there was something other worldly to their culture.
WuDa, you musta gone to FAMU. lol
Well when I went to the black high school I got that smart ain’t cool BS, when I started going to the 2520 high school is was very cool to be smart…. maybe it differs from region to region, but urban legend it ain’t Champie…
maybe it differs from region to region, but urban legend it ain’t Champie…
what part of the country are you from?
*cough*n. carolina*cough cough*
North Carolina Champster…
it’s definitely not an urban legend. it has been and still is very much a reality, even here in your beloved “cave.”
i experienced the hate from other black students in HS becuz i was in honors and ap classes, even tho many of them were my friends before we hit HS. being an athlete (which 80% of the black pop was) was more credible than having good grades—and me being a swim athlete hardly made me popular with the track, bball, and fball crowd. on top of the fact they saw me as this uppity “light skinned chick with good hair”. there were a few dudes in my senior class who asked me to do their college apps for them, like they did all the smart white kids, like i was going to jump at the chance.
additionally i work with the youth at my church here in pgh—all of whom are considered “urban”. they never came out and said smart black kids were being “white” but they don’t place any real value on being a top student. it’s not cool to them. they are more concerned about sports and whats goin down on the block than their grades. many of them want passing grades, but they aren’t pressed to have above average grades.
“it’s not cool to them.”
its not that its not cool to them, its that they dont see any real value in having good grades or being an outstanding student. i mean, think about it: would you have done as well as your did in school if you honestly thought that it served no purpose?
they never came out and said smart black kids were being “white” but they don’t place any real value on being a top student
you are absolutely right. Having a C average is acceptable because it’s all that’s required to play football. We as a community (and i’m saying that this is here in the 412 cause i don’t really know about anywhere else) and we have RIDICULOUSLY low standands for our kids…
Nobody really told me I was acting white, i don’t think. However, i knew as a child it was generally uncool to be proud to be smart among your black contemporaries. This may have even stemmed from my own family members (cousins). Honestly, being smart brought on a lot of the hater inside of kids, and it became annoying to have to deal with. So then, you ended up downplaying your intelligence among your peers because you didn’t want to stand out (most kids try to avoid standing out at certain ages) and deal with the bullshit. So, no i can’t agree that this is a myth because I spent many periods of my brainiac childhood feeling like an outcast for being smart. Honestly, when I got into MIT, EVERYBODY (white and black alike) was surprised because i had trained myself to keep my smarts way below the radar. Rarely did anyone find out I stayed getting 100 percents on my calculus exams.
As u see now, I could give two fux about rambling about my intelligence hahaha.
Word Liz!? It’s like that?! So . . . What you doin for e-snack time? I gots to say it’s a lot of fun to not have to stifel your smartieness.
I was/have been told I ‘talked white’ often.
But when I hear my voice on a voice mail or something even I must admit I sound like a 2520 bill collector.
“I was/have been told I ‘talked white’ often.”
Story of my life…lmao
You’ll still get a throat punch though.
So then, you ended up downplaying your intelligence among your peers because you didn’t want to stand out
in this case though, it sounds like more of a personal complex than a community one
“So then, you ended up downplaying your intelligence among your peers because you didn’t want to stand out
in this case though, it sounds like more of a personal complex than a community one”
But Champ, it the community was the catalyst and the root of the problem. If it was hailed to be smart, I’m sure she wouldn’t have downplayed it.
hmmmmm… I disagree. I think that as a community we accept and expect lower standards for scholarship from our kids and schools DO pass kids who can’t read and stuff like that. Kids are taught laziness and “I can’t” at a young age because they aren’t challenged scholastically and it’s accepted.
Ohhh Yeah. This is a great concept. Black achievement will be ok
as i look back and think on the guys i’ve liked, been with, whatever…they have been all shades. I never really cared about whether you were light skinned or dark skinned. if you could make a sista bite her lower lip, say ‘d@mn” and start thinking some grown folks thoughts…skin color is negligible.
i really don’t care who comes back in style as long as men see this example of black love and take note of it. commitment is not a bad thing. having a strong woman who loves and supports you is not a bad thing. letting it be known that you adore her is not a bad thing.
“I never really cared about whether you were light skinned or dark skinned. if you could make a sista bite her lower lip, say ‘d@mn” and start thinking some grown folks thoughts…skin color is negligible.”
Ditto. But truth be told, I don’t think I could date a brotha with light skin and green eyes. It would be a bit freaky. Like doing a relative or something. So no Terrance Howard for me.
lmao! no pseudo-incestuous relations for miss v-dot!
lmao!
LMAO!! U and Terrence Howard would have CLEAR kids. They’d be EXTRA light. One shade away from being albino. And it’d be sad for you to leave lil VDot at the hospital because she scares u.
and you know i WOULD abandon the albino child.
Thank God for the Safe Haven laws…
and on this note…..i’m going to sleep. forever.
omg i just bust out lauging at that.
See? I knew Nebraska was the PC way of saying “Shet up fo’ I give you somethin’ to cry about!!!”
“letting it be known that you adore her is not a bad thing.”
holla! men that think they’re doing it too big to acknowledge or be tied down to one woman (and have lost a good woman bc of it) should feel like a da*n fool after looking at president obama. the next leader of the free world can talk about his “best friend” and love of his life, but you think showing a little respect to your steady is gonna dampen your little grad student/entry level position shine? negro please. (unresolved issues, i apologize.)
and can vsb organize some kinda rent-a-room/ buddy system for the inauguration? all hotel rooms are booked, and at this point, i’m ready to stay in a manger.
“dampen your little grad student/entry level position shine? negro please. (unresolved issues, i apologize.)”
lmao! girl, gone and talk about it!
commitment is not a bad thing. having a strong woman who loves and supports you is not a bad thing. letting it be known that you adore her is not a bad thing.
i approve of this comment
Oh I might add (as pointed out by tiffany on twitter), I think Obamanation will make it cool to be BLACK and SMART again (ever?). Hopefully the tales of being smart and doing your homework will stop being looked upon as being a “white” thing among our youth.
I agree-and pray this is the case.
*linking hands w/fellow VSBers in this prayer circle*
*raising hand like a 1st grader* ooh ooh ooh i want in on the prayer circle!!
take my hand girl.
*humming*
*takes e-twins hand, wondering why she’s loudly humming a secular tune off key in a prayer circle* hmmmm
Pray harder!! My kids been playing video games!!
LMAO! But its Yolanda Adams!
lol just stick to the negro spirituals…
“with the leader of the free world being a paper-bag test passing brotha with weed lips the color of the sacramento kings (purple and gray)”
well now you just made rahm;s shyt list…
i see somebody’s not looking for a white house invite or an obama christmas card huh??
lol…i just call it like i see it.
Folk is saying how Barack has made us all increase our standards. Well, what about the problem of pre-Barack. When the standards we had were already slightly problematic b/c men barely lived up to it. So now that he has made us increase these standards even more, does that mean there will be more lonely cat ladies than ever before.
“I met this dude and he ain’t go to no Ivy League. That ninja went to a STATE school!! BOOOOOOOOOOO!!”
“That fool only wants to run for Alderman. I wants me a congressman AT LEAST.”
Just stirring the pot a lil
im not saying he made me increase mine…he just reminded me that i dont need to lower them. that asking a man to come with what i bring to the table is not asking too much. a sista was really starting to wonder…
no, he’s not gonna make it any easier to find said fellow. but maybe his example will show these gentlemen that its okay to have a woman who is your equal…then we’ll all be working towards the same goal. yes we can!
damn. . . if women are now looking for men who are their equal and no longer settling for fifth best. . . I just may be out of luck for the next few years. . .
I love self-deprecating, dry humor.
So ceksy.
““I met this dude and he ain’t go to no Ivy League. That ninja went to a STATE school!! BOOOOOOOOOOO!!””
If some sista says this, she needs to be alone. For real!
A black person with a degree is rare. A black man with one even rarer. If you down him cuz it wasn’t a top tier school not only do you not deserve a man, you prolly shouldn’t have friends either.
Take yo elitist azz on…
my .02.
you know what Luvvie, dude Im dating is in Construction, he is a hard worker and diligent and takes care of his family, visits his mom and grandma every Sunday.
I don’t need an Ivy League educated brother, I never had. But I want someone that is going to at the bare minimum be able to provide and maintain me in the lifestyle that I am acustomed~yes I said maintain me. Just as I will do for him
Yeah. If he loves what he does, if what he does is legal and he can afford to pay for his half of the vacation and bills and buy my birthday, Christmas and anniversary gifts, then we should be good.
I just think women started making concessions on their lists and then barack and michelle came along and reminded us we don’t need to make concessions. No, I certainly don’t need an Ivy League man (tho I suppose it’s a nice perk) but I think for some black women, times got rough and you start straying from your desire of a clean cut educated man to Thug Life, thinking, “hey, Thug Life thinks I am cute and he takes baths too” when NO, if you like you an educated black man, hold on to your light and let it shine!!
“desire of a clean cut educated man to Thug Life, thinking, “hey, Thug Life thinks I am cute and he takes baths too”
I’ve seen women do some variation of this. At some point, she goes ballistic on dude cuz he’s not what she wants and he’s left standing, dazed, wondering “wtf?”
ive nearly let myself fall into this trap, but i came to a point where i decided i would much rather be alone…
Had this EXACT SAME conversation with my sister the other day. I found myself in these types of situations but didn’t see the pattern for the longest time. Now I just would rather be alone and live my own life to the fullest.
My sister on the other hand still does this ish in almost every relationship. I told her that she really needed to quit that nonsense because while she feels good about pouring her love into a relationship, at the end of the day she’s resentful because the man/relationship isn’t what she wanted it to be. Is that his fault? No…she should have been stronger internally to wait for what was right for her.
NO, if you like you an educated black man, hold on to your light and let it shine!!
one time!
two time, two time!!
No, I certainly don’t need an Ivy League man (tho I suppose it’s a nice perk)
if by Ivy you mean Morehouse, then I agree with you.
all Morehouse men are nice perks
Harvard: The Morehouse of the North
all Morehouse men are nice perks
*smh* i’d have to disagree with you. and so would my dad (who thinks all Howard men are nice perks).
you may disagree, however you will be wrong. its okay, howard folks don’t know any better either.
you may disagree, however you will be wrong.
o.m.g. you sounds just like my father. hu and mc have more in common than i thought. scary…
while i disagree with anything being the harvard of anything else, I have grown to LOVE me a Morehouse man as of late. Like, where can i get one? You guys definitely are worth all the hype hahaha.
see Gem,
SOMEbody appreciates us.
… Considering that I will be spending the holidays with yet another of you Morehouse men, watching him throw up “The House” with his cohorts in wildly inappropitate settings (like preschool nativity fests), and see him argue down his elders (because “you can tell a Morehouse man…”), I have to say you’re not as appreciated as you think you are.
Many of you are loud-mouth know-it-alls.
**Ducks for Cover**
Many of you are loud-mouth know-it-alls.
In that respect there is not much a difference between a Morehouse man and a Harvard man
Many of you are loud-mouth know-it-alls.
AMEN!!! that’s the one thing i hated about mc dudes–so many of them were like that (many sc chicks aren’t much better, so i’m not even gonna front). thought just becuz they got into mc they were God’s gift to the world. and most of them were dumb as rocks when it came to common sense and real world situations.
too busy riding their own sacks to learn soemthing new and easily became 5th and 6th yr seniors.
You’re a nut, Luvvie!
But seriously, if that’s what a person standards are (schools attended, jobs holding) then they have more problems to attend to.
How about a man of integrity who had a vision, forewent a lucrative career in the corporate world for community service, walked his way up from the ground, did not use his past to define his future, married the woman he LOVED and sired ALL his children inside that marriage?
Now those standards I can def work with.
…and who reads. not ‘who can read’, but actually reads.
and books! chapter books! not just maxim and XXL….
how about GQ?
yeah peyso…magazines get a bad rap. the quality of writing in an esquire or a new yorker is much better than what you’ll find in most novels
U get points for reading GQ. Means your ide of an outfit aint baggy jeans and a white tee.
… and you have given up your childish ways, like camping out at the mall at 6:00 on the Saturday the new Jordans come out…
I was talking about thoughts of settling, and thinking that wanting BASIC arse things are crazy.
Back to Basics!
“too dark and crispy”
I chuckled for like 2 minutes. Sadness.
lol…i forgot to mention that she was darker skinned than i was. she wore white sneakers all the time, though, so i guess she figured that made her lighter
LMAO @ the white sneakers.
I just wish Black folk would stop being insecure about their skin tones. Come on guys, don’t you know how many people lay for hours on beds of florescent lights just so they can look half as dark as us?
argh!
Damn straight! Every staff meeting has a requisite 2 minutes for tanning discussion. I sit back and laugh, to myself of course.
don’t you know how many people lay for hours on beds of florescent lights just so they can look half as dark as us?
i try to love myself and the way my Creator created me. but i’m too pale!! so like 2520s i’m trying to bump up the brownness!! back in SoCal, my skin was always bronzy since the sun was constantly kissing my skin. since i’ve been in pgh, the color has drained from me (my face particularly). my first winter home my dad told me to get blood tests done becuz he swore i was deathly ill. *smh* tragedy.
“get blood tests done becuz he swore i was deathly ill”
I’ve heard this before.
My legs though are pale. White like teeth. Tragic.
lol you remind me of my bff who lives in chicago. i remember this one pic i took of her at the world famous san diego zoo (yay) and her legs were showing. my light skint cousin looks at it and says “is she wearing stalkings in 80deg weather? that’s just weird”
Gem, this just made me spit out my jollof rice all over the screen. lmao.
that’s cuz God don’t like ugly. you shoulda asked me if i wanted some before you read this comment lol
*holding out empty plate*
Michelle was the breadwinner in the Obama family for years. She stood by her man and his dreams. Now he’s taking her to the White House.
This should be a lesson to women out there, too.
I think you are right about the stand by your man, but Barack was always the bread winner. Michelle admitted to that…
“Me? No! Barack had, like, four jobs, always,” she laughs. “No, really. Barack’s a hustler. I shouldn’t say hustler, but he’s a humper in terms of work.”
“but Barack was always the bread winner. Michelle admitted to that…
”
he was…are you sure..didnt her hospital vp job have her at 200k?? they make that in the state senate now lol..
No but you add that to the other three jobs she says he had…
where did that quote come from?? i still don;t know if i fully believe that…maybe the audacity of hope book deal counts as a job…or maybe outearning your man “at press time” aint whats hot on the streets now (prolly never was).
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1835686,00.html
the breadwinning dispute aside, i think this is a great point, V. Barry and Chelly show how 2 strong black individuals can come together as one flesh and hold it down for their family and ultimately for this country. it doesn’t seem to me either 1 had to give up their identity to put the other 1st. Chelly still seems very much grounded and together even tho she’s put her career on the backburner to support and follow her husband’s political aspirations and hold down the fort for the girls. but as they’ve both affirmed, Chelly speaks up and speaks out and checks Barry when needed. she isn’t some feable, soft spoken, always-yay-saying partner in the backseat. she’s riding shotty all the way and helping guide the ship. she admittedly gives honest feedback and criticisms to her man–to help him move where he needs/wants to go. and isn’t that how it should be?? sistas aren’t always trying to tear a brotha down when she’s in disagreement or seeing things from another perspective. and i totally appreciate that Barry respects her intelligence and strength by being open about how his wife is his other out-spoken half.
*does a dance* This light skin brotha is happy. YAY for Obama, although I never considered him light..oh well if he’s light I’m def. light.lol *does happy dance*
I hope you write about how white girls want to get their swirl on now…
“if he’s light I’m def. light.”
Sadly, I had the same thought. Like, I must be see through.
i’ll be honest, i didnt really see him as light before people started mentioning it.
“I hope you write about how white girls want to get their swirl on now…”
lol what you mean, “now”? They been wanting to swirl or ACTIVELY swirling since Moses was in middle school, homie.
“They been wanting to swirl or ACTIVELY swirling since Moses was in middle school, homie”
LMAO
“They been wanting to swirl or ACTIVELY swirling since Moses was in middle school, homie.”
LMAO 8th! White chicks been tryna swirl since the runway fashions were fig and leaf. The Eden ’00 collection was FIERCE!
lmao!!! ya’ll stoopid!
That is true but now they are willing to be public with it. It’s very interesting. I notice that while in Grant Park – Chicago at the Obama rally.
I saw a couple of interracial couples at the rally. but not may. Where were YOU standing? Lol.
Saw a lot of black love that night.
“I saw a couple of interracial couples at the rally. but not may. Where were YOU standing? Lol.”
she was in the roger ebert section…
im goin to he@ll and bed now. lol
LMAO @ 8th, not since the days of cuneiform!
“I hope you write about how white girls want to get their swirl on now…”
now? sheeeeeet, that’s been the case since like the slave trade.
Then again on another note, in this here south, the light skinned dudes never really went out of style.
At least not that I’ve noticed.
They still holdin’ on to their perms, weaves and colored contacts for dear life as well.
From what I can tell.
As a southerner, I not only unapprove your comment, I shall light it on fire and send it to DC where young Black men are wearing lycra pants these days.
volley.
I hope you write about how white girls want to get their swirl on now…
on a completely unrelated note, the night of the election, i remarked to a few people (IVR included) that election night was the perfect night to bag a white chick if that’s what you wanted…all of those chicks were in there just as happy to be non-racists as i’ve ever seen. they were talking to all the Black men like we were all athletes with contracts.
if anything, Barack made it easier to bag a white chick.
“on a completely unrelated note, the night of the election, i remarked to a few people (IVR included) that election night was the perfect night to bag a white chick if that’s what you wanted…all of those chicks were in there just as happy to be non-racists as i’ve ever seen. they were talking to all the Black men like we were all athletes with contracts. ”
Werd, I was pleasantly shocked at the boldness that was being displayed on U street. These weren’t even the wigger ones . . . I dont think I can marry one (the thought of meatloaf and casseroles as regular occurences frightens me) . . . but I will let a 2520 see how the other side lives for an evening. . .
“meatloaf and casseroles”
Food your momma (or wife) feeds you when she doesn’t love you.
i had some great meatloaf a couple weeks ago.
i have no idea why i’m telling everyone this. i guess i just wanted to share
i love meatloaf! especially with ketchup on top. Yum.
food is #1 on the list of random asides for vsb.
was it Ivy’s?? she makes a bomb meatloaf. so good i almost wanted to slap my mama.
honestly, i dont htink it was that difficult to bag a white chick in the first place. i think if anything it made it slightly easier for a black man to say outloud he wanted to make a lil barack.
” i think if anything it made it slightly easier for a black man to say outloud he wanted to make a lil barack.”
I said this to the grandmother on 5 November. . . she didn’t find it amusing.
I’ve never cared about skin tone either. Black people are all so beautiful, why leave anyone out? It baffles me.
Anywho, I co-sign with most of the ladies in saying that I think if nothing else, Barack and Michelle have given us a reason to uphold the Black family in much higher regard than we have been. They’ve made those of us who are looking for that kind of love that much more optimistic, and hopefully, they’ve made those who thought that love never existed in the first place realize that it does.
8th Wondra is trying to be somebody’s Michelle in ’09.
“They’ve made those of us who are looking for that kind of love that much more optimistic, and hopefully, they’ve made those who thought that love never existed in the first place realize that it does.”
***im sorry i gotta wet duvet it up for a second***
I agree…though part of this deeply saddens me…how can one man (or woman) be SOOOO much to EVERYONE…
whatever happens to faith in self…why did it take Obama to realize that you don’t EVER have to compromise your short or long relationship list. That you are worthy of love and to be loved.
What happens in 2012? or 2016? do people just go back to believing in what they always did?
Where is the self-sustaining parts to all of this?
Comeback:
I think every one realized it existed.
But most haven’t been blessed to see it first hand.
And on a public stage to boot.
I think it will sustain over time cuz the image is lasting.
I
i’ll be the first to say that i have never seen a successful and happy black relationship in person. not ever. so yeah, its meaningful to me.
“i’ll be the first to say that i have never seen a successful and happy black relationship in person. not ever. so yeah, its meaningful to me.”
not even grandparents, aunts or uncles neighbors, pastor/first lady….dang Ruby Dee-Ossie Davis (don’t answer the latter..well maybe lol)???
so errybody’s frame of reference is Obama and Michelle?
dang..bigga’s been on the scene longer lol
nah, none of that…sad, i know. but true. i dunno, its just nice to see. im gonna ignore that bigga comment too! lmao
Naw. Both sets of my grandparents were married 50+ years, with lots of trial and tribulations. And my own parents were together 17 yrs and my mom and step dad have been together nearly 13.
So I know folks can sustain it.
And I’ve always looked up to Ossie and Ruby.
But I don’t think most of us see that.
“And I’ve always looked up to Ossie and Ruby.”
i was a little reluctant to put them..because their relationship was “open” for a while. But I do believe it was true love.
so, i suppose its terribly wrong that i dont know who ossie and ruby are, right?
@Shatani…
Imma need you to get off VSB, Google Ossie Davis and Ruby Dee and report back.
Ossie, in short: actor, author, activist, delivered Malcolm X’s eulogy, spoke at Dr. King’s funeral
Ruby: actress, author, activist. Was Ossie’s wife and partner for YEARS until he passed away.
Say it ain’t so Shatani!!!
I gave a lecture to one of my girls who didn’t know about Ruby(Dee) and Ossie (Davis). I’m like I didn’t even grow up in the US!!!! You need to know them.
But it’s understandable… if you’re not that much into movies (oldies), or are really young.
oh, okay…last names helped! lol
Imo ack like Shatani ain’t say she dont kno Ossie and Ruby
“so, i suppose its terribly wrong that i dont know who ossie and ruby are, right?”
aweeeeeeeeeeeeeee dam@n no i guess not…
@ vdot..do you remember the last film they did together, b4 he died, it was like a short. maybe 10 mins ..she was deaf and he was blind? it was like an indie film but i cant find it refereced online. it was directed by a woman.
@Comeback:
I do not.
i’ll be the first to say that i have never seen a successful and happy black relationship in person. not ever. so yeah, its meaningful to me.
you’re far from the first person i’ve heard this from, a fact which is sad as hell in itself.
Yup, that’s why I put that point out there. Some of us have been blessed to see at least ONE successful Black relationship, but far too many of us have not.
whatever happens to faith in self…why did it take Obama to realize that you don’t EVER have to compromise your short or long relationship list. That you are worthy of love and to be loved.
so funny you bring this up CBG. everytime i see a black couple, it makes me smile. esp living in a “majority” city where i see brothas with busted beckys hanging off their arms. black couples, with wedding rings on their fingers, just makes me so happy. and don’t let them have their whole little brown family with them–i start staring and trying to imagine what my future will look like.
i think Barry and Chelly are a great couple and it makes my heart do flips to know they and their girls will be the first BROWN family of America. but like you, i never lost faith in the ability for such families to exist. God willing, one day i’ll be 1/2 of an beautiful, successful, unstoppable whole, with little Gemmies strapped to my back, hoisted on my hip, and/or speedily walking besides me.
“with little Gemmies strapped to my back, hoisted on my hip, and/or speedily walking besides me.”
girl, how many kids you planning on having?
lol.
And did you nickname the president-elect and first lady to be?
lmao.
lmao and lol!
i only want 2 but i’ve noticed this is the age of big families. i meet so many guys who want HUGE families. i’m willing to compromise. and by compromise i mean my womb will only carry 3 fetuses (fetusi??).
and yes, yes i did nickname them. barack and michelle are just too long to type. that those extra 4 letters are waaaay too much lol
LMAO!! Barry & Chelly. Gem, you acking like they invite you over for some tea or sumfin.
But there’s sumfin I dig bout them nicknames.
I concur, those nicknames have a nice ring to them.
unless it’s chai tea i would have to really ponder that invitation….
wait. let me stop lying. if BareChells invited me over to clean the chandeliers in WH i’d be like “should i bring my own supplies?? swiffer works wonders.”
why you gotta hurt my feelings with BareChells right before i gotta go to work?!?! that ish aint right! lmao!
This is like the 15th time I have laughed out loud at my job reading the comments. I’m chokin! BareChells? Love it!
@ Gem..I don’t know if I’ve ever gotten that vivid..but I will say you gotta “see it” to believe it in all frames of reference. But if Obama and Michelle can get a renewed spirit in women having self worth and choosing better. And if Obama can encourage a man to step his game up..then Im all for it.
““with little Gemmies strapped to my back, hoisted on my hip, and/or speedily walking besides me.””
lol…with this tho..it sounds a little cumbersome. you know i;ve seen women with really cute baby slings where you don’t have to hoist any more. Or maybe you or he’ll will have a first mom or a governess so you won’t have carry 5 kids at once..jk.
governess?? as much as i wanted to be Maria on the Sound of Music, she will not be in my home!! no siree. me and the hubby will hold it down together. if our moms are in the pic, they can help too. i can’t get with the nanny thing.
i was being a little ridiculous on the governess front..i don’t think people even call them that anymore lol. And while I totally believe that somebody’s mama is ideal particularly in this situation and typifies the ultimate in family values, lets not unicorn our girl Michelle up..she does have help even outside her mama.
And no matter how much I wanna be Martha, B.Smith and the Barefoot Contessa and June Cleaver after 7:30pm, I would be a little loopy if I thought pulling down what was once Michelle’s money 500k (per the Time article) alomg with Barack’s political aspirations-that i wouldn’t have help..and it would probably be WAY more than my mother.
I’d have my momma manage the nanny.
my momma will keep a nanny in line, make sure they don’t steal or beat the kids of feed them hamburger helper.
“I’d have my momma manage the nanny.
my momma will keep a nanny in line, make sure they don’t steal or beat the kids of feed them hamburger helper.”
lol..yeah..my ma would be like stealth granny..do it like she would do when i was in daycare and gradeschool …make surprise visits, be peakin around the corner and shyt smelling confusion and chaos i was about to start up wit dem crazy @zz lutherans.
***ps…i luv the lutherans..shout out to the other Martin***
*glares @ Vdot and CBG*
Stereotypes, anyone?
goes to far off lonely corner to think n’ meditate n’ shyt.
Not YOU PBG. We know you are honorable. Not everyone is the baby whisperer though.
Sprankles some back track glitter….
PBG…you know i know you ON it. and for the record my mama never had to stealth a daycare of color…but you know if some checks and balances are good for the government…its good for the hamburger helper/home staff too LOL.
ehugs…
@CBG
I remember it (Ossie & Ruby Dee’s last film project together). I think it was the “Slave Narratives” documentary. They were re-enacting an interview from the 1930s given by two elderly ex-slaves. I just watched “Purlie Victorious” over the weekend…loved it.
my thing with nanny’s is that they’re like pretend moms. which are different than “babysitters”. i’m totally down with putting my kids in day care, hell, they need to learn how to play nice with other children. the importance of early developmental social interaction is REAL yall.
but a hired woman to be me and shuttle my kids around while i’m handlin biz?? nah. i’m good. if i need some one to do shuttling, it’ll be nana, abuelita, godmommy, “auntie”, “uncle”, somebody i know and trust.
“nah. i’m good. if i need some one to do shuttling, it’ll be nana, abuelita, godmommy, “auntie”, “uncle”, somebody i know and trust.
”
your right…i hate all those unfortuate things that always happen to kids done by strangers. Even withstanding abuse and neglect…you can always be certain that a “godmommy” or someone you know will have your kids back..no supervision or intervention necessary.
Apparently neither CBG or Gemmie has seen the epic 1983 ABC Afterschool special “Uncle Rocco Touches Me in My No-No Places”.
So much for kids being safe in the arms of family. I sent Tina to Myrtle Beach w/my cuz two summers ago and found out later that she and my cousin’s kid were down there drinking, at the ages of 12 and 14.
And as for early social interactions, that isn’t even a real issue until they are 3 and up because they’re so egotistical, and that is appropriate and normal.
Ok…that’s it.
*hops off of ECE soapbox made of Legos*
“Apparently neither CBG or Gemmie has seen the epic 1983 ABC Afterschool special “Uncle Rocco Touches Me in My No-No Places”.”
um ..i was TOTALLY with you ..i was being ironic. I have a couple of family members I wouldn’t trust with my orchids for 15 minutes….so umm i can imagine i wouldn’t be that much more trusting with a little person.
PBG i very well know the dangers of abuse and molestation–which usually happens by some one familiar. and as much as i respect and appreciate your work and how you hold it down for the kiddies, you are trying to convince the wrong one. from my p.o.v. now i don’t think a nanny would work for me. not becuz i think some stranger will cause harm to my child. i mean i think i’m pretty trusting for wanting my non-existent future children to go to “childcare” centers while mommy and daddy are at work. i’m just not interested in a nanny. i like close family structured networks for child rearing and i’d prefer my kids to be with familiar ppl when they’re not with me or at school/childcare. things may change, but that’s how i feel now.
Gem, that’s how my fam did it, they created networks, I can’t do the nanny thing either, those nanny cams have seen the devil!
whatever happens to faith in self…why did it take Obama to realize that you don’t EVER have to compromise your short or long relationship list. That you are worthy of love and to be loved.
Those who know me personally know I do have this problem. In fact, my problem is that I have never settled, I was very clear about what I wanted from a dude, and I’ve been unapologetically up front about it since the great warthog smarm related fire of 1913.
I set a standard for myself and I refuse to budge from it. This is what has been nagging at me the past couple of months, questions would dart in and out of my mind (usually around the same time of the month I crave Dr. Pepper and Cookie Dough Ice Cream..TMI? We family)
“Am I wrong to want the things I do?”
“Will you be alone foreva, foreva eva, foreva eva?”
All Barack does is remind me that there are brothas out there who want to be ½ of a beautiful whole.
i feel you, e-twinny twin twin. settling is for chumps.
and we can leave being a chump to Champie.
i concur.
Zing! Better duck, Champ! And duck low, cuz I see your head is long….
Zing! Better duck, Champ! And duck low, cuz I see your head is long…
**chuckling**
LMAO, Gemmie you really are my twin, I was thinking e-twinny twin twin the other day. No settling here but…I need a hug! lol.
Champ is more than capable of holding it down for the chumps.
“…since the great warthog smarm related fire of 1913″
kudos to the shout-out to riley and springer. theyd be living in up in their graves right now if they would have been able to afford them
lmao
( ) is trying to be somebody’s Michelle in ‘09.
**calling all VSS’s to insert your name in the parenthesis and shout Ameeeeeeen***
Overit is trying to be somebody’s Michelle in ‘09.
V dot is…
nevamind.
lol. commitment issues wouldn’t let me type this out.
girl after my own heart! lol
**VSS support group Wed night 730 pm**
i may or may not be there….i’ll let ya know. lol
Will pencil it in
i don’t have a strong chin or a mean wrap (leaving no hair out of place) so i can’t completely endorse such a statement as becoming some one’s Chelly in 09.
girl you betta be someone’s Gemmie and stop playin!
i guess i’d be some one’s Gemmie of the Ocean if i knew more brothas that could swim…
Yeah. I will be somebody’s V dot.
Hell, that’s hard enough.
i guess i’d be some one’s Gemmie of the Ocean if i knew more brothas that could swim…
LMAO! i chortled..
i guess i’d be some one’s Gemmie of the Ocean if i knew more brothas that could swim…
…………………………………………………………
“( ) is trying to be somebody’s Michelle in ‘09.”
its already happening..i claim this back at the primaries lol.
Some of us can’t be saved.
V…i rebuke that message for you..
From 8th Wonder: “Black people are all so beautiful, why leave anyone out?”
I’ll toast to that.
“8th Wondra is trying to be somebody’s Michelle in ‘09.”
Gone girl.
For years, black folk – or the ones I know – have been saying “I want that Ossie and Ruby love”.
Now we will say “I want that Barack and Michelle love”.
Funnily enuff, Ossie and Ruby had an “open” marriage for a while. But ultimately, they found that they only wanted one another.
THAT is that there LOVE!!
Yup. They realized the grass wasn’t greener.
Yeah they saw the grass and it was full of moths and weeds.
don’t forget the straight bald patches. what happens when there’s no grass? you get hurt scrambling to the other side.
she talked about this either right before or right after he died. Ms. Ruby was down with this AT ALL. And she was ok with this up UNTIL it was in her face.
Any co-signage was motivated by not “disturbing the peace”.
agreed. when I read what she wrote about it, it seemed like it was Ossie’s idea and she went along for the ride.
agreed. when I read what she wrote about it, it seemed like it was Ossie’s idea and she went along for the ride.
and thats why I dont beleive in the anything to please my man thing. I love you, unconditionally and you should love me the same but I am not willing to risk my physical, emotional and yes, spiritual health to keep you. She should have let Ossie a$$ walk out that door and let him see how many chicks wanted his cracked lip a$$ without ruby there as incentive….ninjas and flies…
“She should have let Ossie a$$ walk out that door and let him see how many chicks wanted his cracked lip a$$ without ruby there as incentive….ninjas and flies…”
***removes damp dust ruffle from under Shay-d’s arm***
I agree…but DAM#N lol…he wasn’t 75 and doing this, he was more like 35. And men ONLY do what you let them-they’ll test you and the boundary until you cry uncle, she was just as responsible in her co-signage as he was with his behavior.
rip Ossie.. I see Shay-d don’t want you to have no peace today on VSB lol.
agree…but DAM#N lol…he wasn’t 75 and doing this, he was more like 35. And men ONLY do what you let them-they’ll test you and the boundary until you cry uncle, she was just as responsible in her co-signage as he was with his behavior.
rip Ossie.. I see Shay-d don’t want you to have no peace today on VSB lol.
he can rest chile.. I was referring to 35 year old Ossie..I am sure his lips was cracked then as well…and I was saying that Ruby should have let his a$$ go instead of sacrificing herself and happiness for that of her man.. I am sure she spent some lonely tearful nights during that time….and truthfully he probably wouldnt have left if she would have been honest about her feelings…
Just wanna say lightskinned brothers cannot be ‘back in style’ because we never went out of style. The darkskinned brothas just happened to step their game up in the 90′s. There’s a difference.
Between Barack Obama, Lewis Hamilton, and a host of others, the gap is going to re-widen in terms of how much lightskin guys get play over darkskin guys.
I hope not.
And by that I mean I hope there isn’t some stupid revival of the ‘color wars’.
You should be picking mates/lovers because of attractiveness not skin tone.
Oh, and personality. And values.
i hope not either..that shyt is so stupid..dark skinned women had it hard in the mid 80s and then early 90s too. We became the flavor dujour sometime around AJ Johnson becoming sombebody’s love interest. And then it was on like popcorn.
Damn near 300 comments and the sun ain’t even up yet.
Ya’ll some vampire [blog] crackheads.
And don’t look @ me. I’m sleep. I don’t know how I’m posting this!!
Crazy. in a good way.
hmmm…i think “good way” is relative! lmao…sleep bloggin is real ya’ll! they need help!
I think a lot of children were conceived on election night. I saw the love in folk’s eyes, the hand holding, the deep kisses…
So, there will be fewer VSS for you VSBs…they will be knocked up.
dead.
lol…damn
Co-Sign! I know a few folks were having O’s for Obama on the 4th! Obama babies are due in August ’0 9!
i can honestly (and maybe sadly?) say i was not part of that election night crowd. no VSbuns in this VSoven, thank goodness.
Me either…lol
LOL I really have nothing to add to this post…. I love Obama, but I have always loved a dark smooth skinned deeply chocolate brother with white teeth and a pretty smile. If said brotha is also 6 ft tall or more with a little thickness on him and a gap legged BDS walk…ummm ummm ummmm…..yeah..thats what got me knocked up and married….I am going to bed now……
woo lawd…i need a moment alone!
BDS
*applause*
**just now seeing the connection between BDS and bowleggedness**
**sending a text message**
OH I forgot..my reason for having nothing to add (I got momentarily distracted)….is because while I love Obama, I always knew true love existed and I have never based what I like and dislike on trends. Trends will have you in a picture wearing green stirrup leggings, a Huge button down shirt, with fila black and purple hiking boots, a jerri curl and red wet n wild lipstick.
Follow your own mind and heart. Obama is a man. He is not the next coming of the Lord he cannot be our everything.
“is because while I love Obama, I always knew true love existed and I have never based what I like and dislike on trends. Trends will have you in a picture wearing green stirrup leggings, a Huge button down shirt, with fila black and purple hiking boots, a jerri curl and red wet n wild lipstick.
Follow your own mind and heart. Obama is a man. He is not the next coming of the Lord he cannot be our everything”
***The Dali Lami gets happy at Jericho Baptist Church***
YES..
Follow your own mind and heart. Obama is a man. He is not the next coming of the Lord he cannot be our everything”
great point and sh*t, albeit a bit wet-blanketey
I agree, but to the point of the post he has bright, light and fair skinned brothas feeling all kinds of warm and fuzzy inside!! I have a few light skinned friends and they were emailing and chatting like crazy saying the same thing.
“Obama is a man. He is not the next coming of the Lord he cannot be our everything.”
True in deed
I believe that is why the Battle cry is yes WE can, not yes I can…
We need to remember that.
This is interesting, reminds me of something that happened to me this weekend. I was going to a party in my normal fly attire when a teenager walked pass me on the street and says “nice suit, getting your Obama on.” I had to laugh, like Obama is not the first black person to dress up and I didn’t have a suit on.
Light skin dudes will have small comeback but after Obamamania calms down they will slowly disappear again. Dark skinned brothers, we will run the show again.
Amen Brother,
Stay strong, YES WE CAN!
“I was going to a party in my normal fly attire when a teenager walked pass me on the street and says “nice suit, getting your Obama on.” I had to laugh, like Obama is not the first black person to dress up and I didn’t have a suit on.”
lol, yeah. this is a huge pet peeve of mine, especially if ive been doing the blazer and jean thing since like 1999, but all of a sudden i’m getting my “kanye” on
i aint neva seent you in a blazer. stop lyin.
OOOO Gem just told Champ to go buy Facebook friends b/c he needs more people. I heart you, Gemmie!!
Luvvie you need to quit with yo instigatin a**. I love how yall be callin each other out.
friend deez
i <3 you back Luvvie duvvie. i’m just tryin to e-prepare to hang with you
“i <3 you back Luvvie duvvie. i’m just tryin to e-prepare to hang with you”
Lol! Whatcha scurred of Gem? I’m harmless (unless u drinking sumthin when I speak. At which I am not liable for any rund gadgets or any fights that popped off b/c u spit water on someone)
LOL i’m not scurred of you. i’m just saying, i gotta be able to keep up. just doing my e-mind exercises, that’s all lol
I don’t think I can handle all yall in person lol.
“i aint neva seent you in a blazer. stop lyin.”
although she’s been too drunk to realistically identify clothing, gemmie is actually right. the last three times ive seen her i’ve been rocking a vsb shirt.
you’ve never seen me drunk a day in your life, Champers.
“although she’s been too drunk to realistically identify clothing, gemmie is actually right. the last three times ive seen her i’ve been rocking a vsb shirt.”
Champ, I hope you’ve washed this shirt btwn wear. I’d hate for you to be smelling like flaming hot fritos, feet and the inside of a fake leg.
if you only knew the half…
i still love black chocolately men. they make me melt, i want to grab their bodies and nuzzle my nose on their necks. good lord, it’s just lovely.
but sadly, blk men and i have been playing hide and seek, and they are doing very well. i have considered another race. my ex was indian, but we’re both from the same country, so i don’t really consider that dating out my “race” per se.
i would like to date a nice rican or someone hispanic, or even a blazin asian, but white guys don’t do it for me AS MUCH. sadly though, who wants to approach this almost 6 ft, size 14, 40DDD with 12 inch braids?? pfffttt.
i get alot of “damn, i never looked a girl in the eye” but i hate going to the club and being taller than 65% of the dudes there. grrrrrrr.
” MUCH. sadly though, who wants to approach this almost 6 ft, size 14, 40DDD with 12 inch braids?? pfffttt. ”
You are an amazon my dear.
“but i hate going to the club and being taller than 65% of the dudes there”
How about I’m only 5’6″ but and am taller than 65% of men ???? I don’t know what’s up with the Southern waters.
*sigh*
i sure am an amazon and at this tender age, i’ve just started to embrace it.
my still can’t go to the club with anyone under around 5’8 though. my friends MUST wear heels. do you know how it looks when my 6’2 ass has to bend halfway to my knees to hear what my 5’3 friend has to say about the dude at the bar?? yeah, okay.
LOL. Honey you and me both… all my girls are short… they’re like, you’re so tall…
No my dear, it’s an optical illusion… my legs are 3/4 of my body. LOL
“i sure am an amazon and at this tender age, i’ve just started to embrace it.”
“tender amazon’s” sounds like a new series from west coast productions
“tender amazon’s” sounds like a new series from west coast productions
Good Lord!
*passes out*
AMAZONS UNITE!!!
Don’t stand next to me @ the VSB happy hour, 8th Wondra. You know I’m a’feared of you tall people.
Oh, you gettin a hug from me, mofo.
Deal wit it.
“with the leader of the free world being a paper-bag test passing brotha with weed lips the color of the sacramento kings ”
To hell with gasoline drawers with this statement. LMAO.
I am a high yella girl and have NEVER pledged allegiance to my color. I love chocolate…. dark chocolate dipped in cocoa chocolate. LOL. Maybe opposites attract, but I never desired a light guy…
Seriously, the only change Obama’s presidency is making for me is holding my men to a higher caliber. We have no excuses.
Oh and men who say, “you know I only like light girls” need not apply.
WTF? Is that supposed to be a compliment?
Tell ‘em why you mad boo.
“Tell ‘em why you mad boo.”
Almost a year and celibate, need I say more? (*wink*)
“Almost a year and celibate”
Thats the saddest thing I’ve read all month. How does that even happen to you? Thats like me telling you I own an Amex black card and for almost a year have been only using it to pay my cell phone bill.
““Thats the saddest thing I’ve read all month”
Dorian, you seriously have me cracking up over here. Hmm… long story short.
I tapped out of the sex game to find “a good one.” Even more pathetic, I don’t think the “good one” exists in this city. LOL.
yeah that irks me too (mostly becuz i’m brown dammit!). altho i’ve heard it much less now that my hair is short. which brings up another issue–dudes who only like long hair. are you serious?? 80% of my black male friends gave me a “talk” about why i shouldn’t have cut my hair. GTFOOH with that.
Girl. YES!!!!! I used to have the long hair too… I chopped it off b/c I wanted a change and shit… my mom flipped out/ my granny flipped out, my uncles flipped out, my exes flipped out. WTF?
I actually think the short hair looks better on people… but girl, people are so damn shallow.
true dat!! i went home a few months after i cut my hair and my dad just looked at me and said “did you mean to do that?” like i got gum stuck in my hair and had to cut it out lol. one woman at my church actually physically took me aside and said “are you ok? what’s wrong? nobody just up and makes a drastic change by cutting off all their beautiful hair if they weren’t depressed” and yes, she was serious. i had to spend like 5min convincing her i actually WANTED a short hair cut. *smh*
but yeah, my MATURE friends who aren’t caught up on silly ish like that all have said they like my hair better this way and i look more prof and grown.
i’ve decided to grow it to my shoulders so i can rock a pony tail/bun when i don’t feel like styling it lol
“which brings up another issue–dudes who only like long hair. are you serious?? ”
although i’m into all types of reasonably practical hair, whats wrong with having a hair preference? whats the difference between a guy who likes long haired chicks, and a woman who has a thing for bald headed dudes?
it’s fine for dudes to have their preferences, even when it comes to hair. i don’t care about that. but don’t try to tell me what to do with MY hair!! if you don’t like short hair or don’t approve of me not having long hair anymore, leave me alone and go find some one else. don’t try to convince me to grow it long again or talk about how pretty my hair would be if it were longer.
that ish drives me crazy.
But didn’t you just make the same statement?
Is that supposed to be a compliment?
The Champ is using this post as a reference for his dissertation on group thinking.
How dastardly. Diabolical even. I am impressed, sir.
As someone who is not infatuated with Obama physically, I don’t think his melanin deficiency will spark a rise in the light-skinned brothas’ market.
I personally never understood the differentiation. Handsome is handsome and ugly is ugly. If your visual appeal differs with your skin color, you ain’t cute.
This message paid for by Chocolate Americans for Obama.
Deeming someone fine based solely on skin tone is just lazy.
In a nutshell.
Handsome is handsome and ugly is ugly.
beauty is and has always been in the eye of the beholder. the ish is all relative.
yes, handsome is handsome and ugly is ugly, but just becuz a brotha is “attractive” looking doesn’t mean he’s going to attract me. i tend to generally be more attracted to darker guys. i like smooth, dark skin covering strong masculine features. i enjoy seeing pearly white teeth peeking out from smiling deep brown lips. i like the way a chocolate hand looks resting on my soft toffee waist. not hating on the same shade or lighter than me skinned brethren. just prefer some darker contrast.
You went all extremist and took my comment out of its context.
i wasn’t being extreme nor was this comment directed towards you, calm down. it was an obvservation of your post and others i’d read about skin color preferences. i had something on my mind–can i have the freedom to let it out?? sheesh.
“can i have the freedom to let it out??”
Your freedoms are an illusion.
Actually Deveant I think that The Champ has a design to have people mate choose based on forebrain, ‘decisiveness’ and not hind brain, ‘I just don’t know why but I can’t resist em.’
Me I have answered the call of the hind brain, and got me some of the best bootie ever. But during the non dusk hours I was left feeling how do you say BORED. I mean seeing as how we all know better will we do better, and like it @ the same time?
“Actually Deveant I think that The Champ has a design to have people mate choose based on forebrain, ‘decisiveness’ and not hind brain, ‘I just don’t know why but I can’t resist em.’”
vsb: where very smart sh*t happens
but for real this *slow clap* is for you Panama and Liz. I’m feeling all verclempt like Obama did it again. Keep on changing the world guys n Liz
The “group think” remark was referring to the blaze of co-signage this blog ignited.
Nerds will be HAWT. They won’t get laughed at in their early years. Unfortunately, this will have a negative impact on the economy because they won’t grow up and be nearly as successful. Oh and skinny guys will be happening now. And marriage will be an option to Ray-Ray nem (word to Jay Z and Beyonce).
lemme tell you, i am happy as hell i was nice to each and everyone in high school. cuz some of the dudes who were sexy as hell have turned into some busted lookin bums with black lips, but the nerds? good god almighty.
make me wanna poke holes in condoms when i see them 4 yrs later lookin like a bag o sexy.
“make me wanna poke holes in condoms when i see them 4 yrs later lookin like a bag o sexy.”
Yeah, no. jana, you cannot go around making sieves out of Trojans for any reason. It’s just not a good look. Even in jest.
not even on the 3rd tuesday of every 5th month?
Ol’ rhythm [method] nation lookin’ gal…
“Oh and skinny guys will be happening now”
You’re on your own there sister.lol
I don’t want skinny. But other women may give them a second look.
I’m not gonna be able to do skinny either. I want him to be able to pick me up and not break a sweat. LOL. I’m not the thickest chick… but we need able to do some things.
I have always, always rocked for the skinny dudes. Them Pharell-looking boys? They have stamina. Trust.
(word to Jay Z & Beyonce n ‘marry yo baby daddy’) And why does the nurd’s ambition rely on peer dimeaning? I say there will be some more helthy ambition born by the pr that good things happen to people w/ good intentions.
“Oh and skinny guys will be happening now.”
N-n-no sucha thang!
I like skinny boys…
what changes (if any) do you think an obama presidency will bring to our courting/dating/boning dynamic?
I haven’t read any comments yet, besides it’s not even 9:30 and there’s already 310 comments. But to answer the Champ’s question, I say think that black women are going to start thinking that it’s okay to move their mothers in.
” I say think that black women are going to start thinking that it’s okay to move their mothers in.”
This REALLY made me chortle
I say think that black women are going to start thinking that it’s okay to move their mothers in.
**guffawing**
LMAO.
my mom and I were talking about how appropriately black it is for Chelle to bring her momma to DC with them….
Very much so, VDot. I approve of that move, for real.
Chris Brown already helped the light skin movement before Obama. I’m just waiting for someone to jump start the red-head brother movement. I mean we had Red Head King Pin and Theo Huxtable (even though that was a dye job, but he knew what was up )back in the early 90′s, but since then us red head brothers had to piggy back off the light skin brothers. I guess our time went when they killed Malcolm
“tart the red-head brother movement. I mean we had Red Head King Pin and Theo Huxtable (even though that was a dye job, but he knew what was up ”
Ew. I cannot endorse brothas with colored hair. LOL
I’m so glad the Kwame/RedHead Kingpin ish went outta style.
That was a dark moment in Black History…lol
Yes that was a dark Moment, with ninjas dying their hair and shyt. Unfortunatley for me I have to live this out. I have people asking me everyday if I dyed my shyt, and then I get the side eye like I’m fronting when I say my shyt it’s natural. It get’s worse in the summer when the sun makes my hair more red
My Mom had red hair as well, people swore up and down she dyed it. She’d give them the side-eye as well.
I still get this. My hair is auburn but someone will be doing my hair and say ‘oh you have (names some color)” and I’ll say “this grows out my head…”
Eff, what madness are you participating in? Does the red hair go with the horns and tail? Damn!
I actually had to put in years of evil doing to earn them horns and tail. My redness is a result of my Irish side. No I’m not really Irish, but I do drink like one
To me, an Obama presidency is not only a win for the black community and America in general, but its also a win for the black family.
Too many times black folks in our generation have been told that we dont get married anymore, we dont have kids in wedlock, and we damn sure dont have two good black parents raising children together. Its good to see Michelle and Barak embodying those family values I was taught to believe in.
I also think its important not to overlook the fact that Michelle is a dark skinned sister. Too many of our politicians, like ball players and entertainers, have subscribed to the belief that they couldn’t be accepted in mainstream society without a light bright woman at their side. M.O. has single-handedly SMASHED that belief and proved that us dark women have just as much beauty and brains as the rest of em!
Things are certainly looking up for black relationships period.
“Too many times black folks in our generation have been told that we dont get married anymore, we dont have kids in wedlock, and we damn sure dont have two good black parents raising children together. Its good to see Michelle and Barak embodying those family values I was taught to believe in.”
good point.
also…
“I also think its important not to overlook the fact that Michelle is a dark skinned sister.”
…do you think obama would be as revered in the black community if his wife was a vanessa williams doppleganger?
I doubt it. I know a lot of women who probably wouldnt have supported him quite as fervently. Well, black women anyway. More specifically dark black women.
It has also recently come up among a few different groups of friends if the black community would have supported him if his wife was white. I have to say on that too. I know I wouldn’t.
“do you think obama would be as revered in the black community if his wife was a vanessa williams doppleganger?”
Why wouldn’t he be? Vanessa Williams is a sista and any look like would be as well. I have to really hope that we have moved beyond hating on a brotha cuz his black wife lacks a little pigment.
“Why wouldn’t he be? Vanessa Williams is a sista and any look like would be as well. I have to really hope that we have moved beyond hating on a brotha cuz his black wife lacks a little pigment.’
here ya go…
“I know a lot of women who probably wouldnt have supported him quite as fervently. Well, black women anyway. More specifically dark black women.”
I am giving my sistas credit for being beyond that.
what changes (if any) do you think an obama presidency will bring to our. . .boning dynamic?
A lot of people (if they haven’t already) will start roll playing in bed like they’re the Obamas. From the east coast to the west, you will hear the 3 words “yes we can” coming out of bedrooms, as couples reach the ultimate O. When the 2520′s start role playing as the Obamas they will use dark make-up all over there bodies (not just for the Obama weed lips) for the full effect. All this role playing will cause a shortage in Woman’s business suits and dark colored make-up. You mark my words people!!!
Stop smoking that stuff in the morning. But if you insist – puff, puff pass.
It’s the breakfast of Champions and Rappers
“A lot of people (if they haven’t already) will start roll playing in bed like they’re the Obamas. From the east coast to the west, you will hear the 3 words “yes we can” coming out of bedrooms, as couples reach the ultimate O. When the 2520’s start role playing as the Obamas they will use dark make-up all over there bodies (not just for the Obama weed lips) for the full effect. All this role playing will cause a shortage in Woman’s business suits and dark colored make-up. You mark my words people!!!A lot of people (if they haven’t already) will start roll playing in bed like they’re the Obamas. From the east coast to the west, you will hear the 3 words “yes we can” coming out of bedrooms, as couples reach the ultimate O. When the 2520’s start role playing as the Obamas they will use dark make-up all over there bodies (not just for the Obama weed lips) for the full effect. All this role playing will cause a shortage in Woman’s business suits and dark colored make-up. You mark my words people!!!”
LOL!!!!! dark make up all over their bodies (read in shenene voice)?!?! HAHAHAHA!
“LOL!!!!! dark make up all over their bodies (read in shenene voice)?!?! HAHAHAHA!”
damn…got so excited you pasted his comment like 5 times, lol
““LOL!!!!! dark make up all over their bodies (read in shenene voice)?!?! HAHAHAHA!”
damn…got so excited you pasted his comment like 5 times, lol”
My bad yo, I was “ctrl v”ing excessively.
thats aiight and sh*t.
The changes that I see….
- Anything is possible. People will aim higher and it will raise standards of what we can achieve.
- Pride in the black family. The black family structure has been suffering for a long time and with the Obamas, they show that what a great family looks like. They’re a beautiful couple with 2 beautiful kids.
- It’s okay to show adoration towards a woman. I love how Barack is always complimenting Michelle and is so proud to have her as his wife. It can show guys that it doesn’t make you less of a man to show love towards your woman.
- Bring smart guys back in style.
- Change in standards. A lot of women tend to settle but seeing Barack and Michelle will (hopefully) increase standards.
“Bring smart guys back in style.”
ummm…vsb did that and sh*t
LOL!!!
Color is a sticky subject for me. Bring a dark skinnt brother myself I envied the lighter skinned brothers throughout the 80′s.
I really only liked lightskinned girls in that time period. Alot of them because they were light skinned and that is what T.V. and everyone around me told me was cute. Except for Nicole. She was bad. She had green eyes and some mo’ ish.
But back to what I was saying. I don’t think it’s truly wrong to like someone because of their color. That may be what makes them cute. It’s kinda like a pair of shoes. You know how some shoes look better in one color and not the other. Someones color may set their look off better for you.
But to say everyone of a certain color is not attractive is just wrong.
I personally have found myself liking dark skinned sisters more in my older age, but that don’t mean I would bone uh I mean date a light skinned sister too. (As long as she doesn’t look like Kwame Kilpatrick’s mistress.)
But I do hope that Obamanation doesn’t make people like light skinned people more. But it could happen. Being visual people we may start to equate success with light skin. And that could be a catalyst for women to want to date lighter skinned men.
But my hope is that it makes women want to date a brother with the potential for greatness in whatever arena that may be.
I hope that it make young black men see what is possible outside of the great three. (Entertainment, Sports, and Crime)
I also hope it makes others see us as equal. It scares me sometime. My own boss said to me, “You know Obama is really white. You get your race from you mom so he is really a white guy”. All these years we are told that we are black if we have one drop of blood. Now once he successful they claim he’s white man because he has white blood.
I just hope it makes them see us as equal.
But I’ve rambled long enough.
“Wood has Spoken”
your boss can have tiger woods. we, the black delegation, deny his request. we’re also claiming colin powell again.
light skin… dark skin… it’s all pink when the lights go out… unless she has the coochie cooties
You wait just a CotDamn minute Rondell!!!
You can’t hustle me. I’m the ultimate hustler. We’re keeping Colin Powell. You can have Tiger and we’ll throw in Alan Keys.
Coochie cooties…. Hysterical!
How bout we’re Deebo’ing Colin Powell and Tiger Woods. Y’all keep Alan Keys and we’ll throw in James T. Harris (black guy pleading to McCain at one of his rallies) & Bill Clinton circa 2008.
I saw that news clip of Mister Harris.
After it went off, I blacked out and went on a midget-kicking spree.
“After it went off, I blacked out and went on a midget-kicking spree.”
Died just now.
*Austin & Royster’s on Ga. Ave arranges double burial*
NOT Austin & Royster’s..lmao
“But back to what I was saying. I don’t think it’s truly wrong to like someone because of their color. That may be what makes them cute. It’s kinda like a pair of shoes. You know how some shoes look better in one color and not the other. Someones color may set their look off better for you.”
i agree. theres a difference between “complex” and “preference”
Y’all have been getting it in on this post. I can give props to those who have been on their game prior to the Obamas, but I will say this: the black family has not been in vogue since the Cosby’s. How much representation do Black families receive in our media when compared to The Thug For Life, The Successful Black Man Who Will Never Look At a Sista – Ever, The Absentee Baby-Daddy, The Gold Digger, the Super Successful Sista Who Will Never Find a Man (shouts out Sanaai and Gabrielle) and The Overworked Single Mom? Yes, they do represent us, but to see the same 6 types in the media without full representation of the black experience reminds me of other “characters” white media kept on a permanent loop: Sambo, Mammy, Picanniny, the Tragic Mulatto and Sapphire. Subliminal message: Black folks stay strugglin’ and losin’. Viacom, anyone?
I’ve been waiting to exhale, and I know I’m not the only one. The Obamas are that fresh air we’ve been waiting for. A black man who works hard, is educated, helps his community and worships the ground his women walk on. A sista who is successful, happy and doesn’t have her man’s twig and berries in a jar on the shelf. And she’s *gasp* chocolate! (I’m looking at you NBA, NFL and rappers). IMO, the Black Family came out the winner in this election, especially in contrast to the cluster-f**k that is Palin family values.
Sooooo (yeah, I’m longwinded today) how does this affect the dating scene? Maybe “education” + “Do-gooderness” + “family oriented” will finally = dropped panties, er, swagger. teehee.
Maybe “education” + “Do-gooderness” + “family oriented” will finally = dropped panties, er, swagger. teehee.
this is a subject that noone has really touched today…and probably because noone wants to hear/admit this.
maybe more black men would have chosen to go the obama route if marquee sistas were checking for those types of cats. i dont think women realize how much power ya’ll have in this regard. guys will typically aspire to be whatever type of guy that sought-after women are attracted to.
“guys will typically aspire to be whatever type of guy that sought-after women are attracted to.”
Truth.
Champ spouts:
“guys will typically aspire to be whatever type of guy that sought-after women are attracted to.”
some men maybe. perhaps even many but not me. i happen to think that i’m attractive just being me. on my high school networking website they ask your relationship status (like single, married, its complicated… i wrote WANTED) the greatest persuader in terms of making myself into something a woman wants has been at a time of sex*al desire and that’s fleeting. …other than that it cums naturally im good not motivated unnaturally to be something “to have a woman.”
it’s so not the problem.
say something smart.
you first. Ha!
*giggles*
Champ, baby, skip the Lasik and grab your umbrella. It’s about to start rainin’ panties for VSBs.
I totally agree with this. Chris touched on this with one of his posts on Stuff Black People Hate. I finally realized it was true a few months ago when I met a guy who said he and his brother determined at a young age to become The Perfect Man.
If women hold men to a higher standard I think we’d all be surprised at what they can achieve.
“If women hold men to a higher standard I think we’d all be surprised at what they can achieve.”
I am clapping my hands and pumpin my fists. very true.
ahh, SBPH…i do miss Chris’ snarky azz..*sniff*
I agree with my own statement, but only to a point. If we ladies panty drop for members of Future Business Leaders of America, what will their motivation be to stay in relationships once they finally have one? Hate to say it (you know I really don’t – I’m a stinker) but often times loose booty decisions are made on the premise that “This guy is cute but I see no future. I’ll give him some.”
There is no denying the fact that unfettered access to drawers is one motive for nice guys to get into a relationship. By that time most women are tired of being run through by the bad boys (or are just good girls and are sitting dusty on a shelf) and mature relationships can flourish. Free p**sy passes from jump street (read: high school) may have them acting like Ray Ray and nem.
I agree with my own statement, but only to a point. If we ladies panty drop for members of Future Business Leaders of America, what will their motivation be to stay in relationships once they finally have one?
please expound. i dont get where you’re going and sh*t
I think you’re somewhere with a cocktail right now…as if I don’t leave enough long-winded posts. The beauty of late bloomers (read: you) is that they have good qualities without the “God’s Gift to All Women” mentality of some men who were parting hairs early in life. Some of them change their ways, but a lot don’t. They can’t maintain a relationship, and they end up being that “old playa” in the club. Tragic. You wouldn’t want to end up like them, would you?
“guys will typically aspire to be whatever type of guy that sought-after women are attracted to.”
So this explains why ninja wear skinny jeans and fro-hawks!!!
There is no explanation for that ish.
Don’t save ‘em.
P.S. – love the phrase “marquee sisters”.
“education” + “Do-gooderness” + “family oriented” will finally = dropped panties, er, swagger. teehee.
Hasn’t it always been the case? I don’t know anybody who is actively looking for a guy who is not all those things? Is my world that warped?
Long winded, Lil’ T, but on point. I approve of this message, especially the use of the phrase “cluster f*ck”. That warmed my heart.
I’ve actually been working at my job, so I had a lot of pent up thoughts. Will you be at the happy hour on Wed?
Yes I will. You’re not tall by any chance are you? I’m just looking for someone I can stand next to w/out having a panic attack.
I’m of totally average height – 5’5″ without heels. No need to fear – I won’t fall on you!
Finally some normal height people. VSB seems to be full of amazons or vertically challenged folk. And women with little hands.
vsb.com: where black mutants congregate.
Why is that video for that song in my head now, where they keep singing that’s the name of the game and there’s lots of vynle scratching and there is a big nose and a long finger on the girl and they go out. n they say calling all freaks.
Hey you leave my lilliputian fists outta this!
Besides, I’ve been called a mutant for having so many teefs in my mouth (I promise they str8. They ain’t gang banging or nuthin). There are just many of them
Hey Tiger I mean Sharkie I mean Lubbie. *snicker* ooh I’m hungry.
Stand next to me! lmao, unless you consider 5’6 and a lil sum tall…in that case you might need more people.
I’ve been waiting to exhale, and I know I’m not the only one. The Obamas are that fresh air we’ve been waiting for. A black man who works hard, is educated, helps his community and worships the ground his women walk on. A sista who is successful, happy and doesn’t have her man’s twig and berries in a jar on the shelf. And she’s *gasp* chocolate! (I’m looking at you NBA, NFL and rappers). IMO, the Black Family came out the winner in this election, especially in contrast to the cluster-f**k that is Palin family values
this is awesome!
Nope!!! I see it and I won’t allow it (c) Miles Lane.
To quote a great rap group, U mad doggie! Lightskin started going wobbly wobbly when Jordan styled on Sam Bowie, then y’all officially fell off when Wesley Snipes told redbone to sit his $5 ass down and you know the rest.
Since then y’all not only went out of style you got turned into second class citizens. Got my brown skin sistas out here doing all types of prayer and voodoo hoping they baby boys come out darker than motor oil.
Everybody got in on the action. The women dig it, the 2520′s who got guap dig it (I see you billionaire Bob Johnson, keep it black!) the question is can you dig it? (c) Powerful Black Man
I’m not even willing to let Obama slide in y’all camp. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2008/04/07/2004333750.jpg I mean look at that epitome of whiteness, yet the man has some powerful black features don’t you think??? You know what that is right, strong African charcoal BLACK!!!
You think ‘chelli chell ain’t peep that?? Memo went out to all my lightbrite beauties. They know the best a light skin dude can be now, is a R&B singer, or 50 cent hype man (Shout outs to Lloyd Banks).
So any of my VSB ladies out there that was confused by this post, I just clarified it for you (Gem, I’m talking to you, haaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy boo) you wanna move into the white house or even just a big house, just keep doing what you been doing since you realized Al B. Sure looked ‘mo with this tight ass jacket on http://img3.ifilmpro.com/resize/image/stills/films/resize/istd/2790495.jpg. and make sure these ni99as never ever ever ever ever come back in style (c) creative black man kanye west
dorian, were you and wu hanging out this weekend or something?
LMAO
OMGIHATEYOUSOMUCH.
Umm… Wu, Dorian and GK have clearly formed a posse.
LMAO @ Luvvie I was just thinking that. Its an epidemic…all I know if I read a post by Champ or P with any hint of hood heff, I will die.
I think VSB should limit its number of overly verbose, creative speakin brothas to 1.
Lol. three of y’all now????
*giggle*
I will read this again after I exhale the ooh-wee….
J/k, J/k
why you gotta shout me out like my reading comprehension is poor??
i see you—heyyyyy boo!!
mmmmuuuuahahahahahaahahahahaha
Give it to em Dorian. Bang right in the corpus colosum. That’s what I call a brain t-storm w/ lightning.
and to yall nay sayers ‘YOU DON’T KNOW ME AND YOU DON’T KNOW MY STYLE’ that’s all.
forebrain, hindbrain, corpous collosum?? daaaang Wu. now you got me fallin for you. i think i’m in e-luv with your cerebral cortex *batting eyes*
“daaaang Wu. now you got me fallin for you. i think i’m in e-luv with your cerebral cortex *batting eyes*”
Ooo sounds like Wu’s medula ablongata is turning you on, Gemmie.
lol!! you just reminded me of nas’s verse on lloyd’s “you” remix:
…run through ya undo ya bra
give me medulla uh
ya cute as a movie star…
nas is the one middle school crush i can’t shake off.
It’s not gonna change ish for your girl. My spectrum runs the gamut from Hispanic to Blue-Black.
I don’t discriminate.
lol…thanks miss t-lee.
Anytime.
*scans replies*
*tip toes out the door*
**bribing archie with luvvie’s panties so he’ll come back**
“**bribing archie with luvvie’s panties so he’ll come back**”
Humpty, why must you bring my undies into this??? Hater ass hater
*dead at desk*
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
*pointing finger at Champ and gasping*
BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@ champ
Your effing up the rotation
@ champ
Your effing up the rotation
my bad. what’s the order again?
**snatches luvvie’s draws from Champ, hands them back to her**
V-dot, don’t touch them drawers after Champ and Eff. Just burn em. Luvvie – I got $5 on a 3-pack from Hanes. The elastic is strong. Can’t say I don’t watch out for a sista.
make sure they’re 100% cotton. gotta let the “girl” breathe.
Don’t worry Lil T. I was wearing gloves and used forceps to grab ‘em.
Thank ya kindlay, V. Champ snuck in my room and stole my lace undies. Po’ thang is mad I tol him we could never be. I’d like kids that dont look like they got heads from SNL sketches.
See Champ – I told you a while ago to duck. You can’t throw bombs and duck three inches down with a ten inch head.
Why do I have this image of Champ with Luvvie’s drawers on his face like a ski mask sniffing?
“Why do I have this image of Champ with Luvvie’s drawers on his face like a ski mask sniffing?”
who knows. we usually have no idea where our darkest fantasies come from
I am giving my self the Oedipus mind eye stab.
lmao @ oedipus mind eye stab.
i <3 educated ppl.
& we love you too Gemie
i’m mad at all ya’ll. lmao.
“Why do I have this image of Champ with Luvvie’s drawers on his face like a ski mask sniffing?”
Egads.
***draws luvvie’s snatch from v.e.g., passes it back to thirsty homies***
okay. wowwww.
lmao.
*glares at Champ, kicks him in shin with size 6 foot*
Champ must be at home smokin’ that ooooo weeeee! This bama just took a swan dive off the deep end into a limestone quarry. My image was more of the 2520 cop on “White Girls”…before he found out they belonged to a Wayan’s bro.
i don’t care what shade a guy is… as long as he is fly, intelligent and has a great smile…
aside from the courting dynamic, i think obama’s presidency has and will continue to bring about more acceptance of us mixed folk… we truly are a great people
do you ever think that bi-racial americans will have their own racial classification?
well, this has already started in some places. a lot of applications now have “2 or more races” as an option. this doesn’t really excite me though; this option doesn’t cover enough ground. i am someone who is half african-american and half german, who is very different from someone who is half latino and half asian… but yet on paper we would still be called biracial.
I thnk Obama already did this when he used the term “Mut”
no, we are way too diverse for that. black and white, black and mexican, mexican and white. too disjointed to really get a common voice, if only because we have very different expeirences due to our makeup as well as the level that we engage with being whatever mix it is we are.
Champ my son sometimes refers to himself as an “other”.
i just call myself sexxy.
Ah, now I get it. So you’ve created a new meaning for sexxy to mean “see-through mixty”. It all makes sense now P-money.
*frantically searching for a defibrillator*
“do you ever think that bi-racial americans will have their own racial classification”
I think that anyone with a drop of black in them should be considered black. The term has been used for 500+ years to downplay our importance. Now that we have it going on we are dividing ourselves. We should take advantage of it, by pulling together and being one we can dictate the way a lot of things are done in this country and even in this world. . . until racism ceases to exist. . . then we can all just really be Americans. The power of the black dollar/vote/opinion can be a force to be reckoned with if kept intact . . . if divided we reduce our market share to durag and murrays commercials on BET. I, for one, want a 30 minute spot delaying the world series because i/we CAN. . . im just saying. . .
“I think that anyone with a drop of black in them should be considered black”
so basically, 85 percent of america, lol
Just a few famous blacks:
Thomas Jefferson
Andrew Jackson
Abe Lincoln
Warren Harding
Vin Diesel
Wentworth Miller
WuDaMan
I was in the background once on hits from the street.
Can I just say we (Hispanics) don’t have a race classification. It burns me when I have to check off white, after I checked off Hispanic as my ehtnicity. A few years ago I started to do the rotation, one time I will check white, the next time black, the next time Asian. etc…
“Can I just say we (Hispanics) don’t have a race classification.”
I must disagree with you here IH. As a resident spegro I must say that the hispanic view of race is racist in of itself. Caribbean/Coastal folks of clearly black descent have been brainwashed to think that there is no race classification but throw the curl in their hair so they can look like the more mixed folks. Seeing how people ignore blatantly racist things in latin america and say things like “I’m not black” is sad. It’s good for the clearer skinned people to say that hispanics/latinos don’t have a race because they are the ideal. But, just like the United States, the white folk came over to the new world, saw a bunch of indians (taino, arawak, what have you) . . . murdered most of them . . . went to Africa for cheap labor. . .and now everyone is all mixed up. The only difference I see between the US and Latin America was that the Spaniards were all good with screwing the help and did it often and openly. . . I just dont think enough time has passed for races to be obsolete in latin america . . . maybe if the black latinos/hispanics had a Martin Luther King, or Malcolm X, these issues would have been brought to light. . . we didn’t have that. . .we just tried to assimilate into an inherently racist culture, part of the reason why my folks are here and not in Panama right now. (Man, I got a lot of time on my hands today)
“As a resident spegro I must say that the hispanic view of race is racist in of itself. ”
Oh yes it is. I have countless amounts of dominican friends who will not admit that they are black. It urks me to no end. Back in college, i tutored a friend’s younger brother…. when I asked this 14 year-old boy to compose an essay of how civil rights have affected him, he actually said “i shouldn’t have to write about this, im not black.” not.cool.at.all.
i walked out of the room for a second to gather myself.
“Oh yes it is. I have countless amounts of dominican friends who will not admit that they are black. ”
I appreciate the understanding. I am in a latino greek organization and some of the things I hear from people darker than me are just ridiculous. I can’t really blame them, that is acceptable where they come from, it’s just sad.
this same friend was told that his mother’s name sounded like it was of haitian descent, and he became ridiculously insulted.
sidenote: most of my dominican girlfriends refuse… absolutely REFUSE to wear their hair curly. It could be the most humid of days and they won’t do it. I think the denial of african roots definitely has something to do with it.
if you share your island with haiti, you are black. accept and love it. it’s a beautiful thing.
“if you share your island with haiti, you are black. accept and love it. it’s a beautiful thing.”
I understand the Dominican/haitian drama mainly because the Haitians took over the entire island (I think the dates were from 1822-1844). So they have deep issues with that split.
Your sidenote I find to be accurate. Most of the black latinas that I do know tend to straighten their hair. I do know a few that rock it curly proudly and look great doing it (lurker that’s for you) . . . but denial is a mfer.
I don’t even know where to begin in my reply…but yes, yes, yes and yes!! All of the above is absolutely correct. I am Dominican and some of the things I’ve heard from my own people are absolutely RIDICULOUS. Dominicans won’t embrace their Blackness yet they go around claiming they aren’t racist. I happen to fit into a whole different category (since I’m “the lurker” IVR is referring to) but this is VERY uncommon and when surfing the net to find like-minded Dominican authors or “experts” I can read up on for inspiration…I don’t find much. I guess if the path doesn’t exist…we just have to create it ourselves. Wish me luck!
I didnt even read the rest of your note because I totally agree with “hispanic view of race is racist in of itself”
after reading what you wrote I don’t see where you are disagreeing with me
“after reading what you wrote I don’t see where you are disagreeing with me”
Here is where I disagree with you.
“Can I just say we (Hispanics) don’t have a race classification.”
This is where I disagree. . .race classifications exist, they are just openly ignored and subconsciously a harsh reality. On those survey things, if they only have hispanic/latino and african american I check hispanic/latino. If black is there, I check black. . .
those are ethnic classifications.
On official documents like the citizenship application, that I filled out last week, first they ask your ethnic classification then immediately following they ask your racial classification.
your choices for Race are White, Asian, Black or African American, American Indian/Alaskan native, Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander. I fall into 3 of those five and if they had one for Central American Indian or native I would fit into 4. actually as I look closer at this document it actually asks to Select one or more (that is the first time I ever saw that)
Interesting views, y’all. Sometimes we forget that Black Americans aren’t the only ones with color issues. Is it just me, or do europeans tend to mangle every culture they touch? And then look back like, “Man, what would these poor furriners do if we hadn’t swooped in and saved them from their ecologically responsible and satisfying lives? Let’s pass out more bubonic plague blankets and tell them they look funny while we squeeze some tay-tays.”
Anyway, thanks for the insight and sh*t.
see my parents are from central america too, but i dont consider myself “black” from a cultural standpoint. on sunday we do not make fried chicken and collard greens, we make rice and beans and stew chicken… when we get married, we dont jump over brooms and we dont have alot of the same customs african americans have so i dont consider myself black in that respect. now, with that being said i dont front on my nappy hair (even though it is permed) you dont catch me tryna wash n go, lol. i also love my skin and features, so it was never a matter of denying what i look like.
I hear ya, we have never had any of the African traditions in our family, most of our traditions are more native and Spanish, that does not deny my first cousins that have the strong African features including the kinky hair and dark skin, yet and still they would never call themselves black. That is due in part to my grandmother’s insistence and her bias for promoting the Spanish in our blood.
“see my parents are from central america too, but i dont consider myself “black” from a cultural standpoint.”
I understand this, this is why I have always said that I was not an African American (even though that is also not true . . . this is what I use to identify the descendants of slaves in the United States). But being hispanic/latino is about as good a “catch all” as saying you are an American. The “ideal” people can say that we are all latinos, but my family members who have to submit pictures with job applications would paint a different story . . .
We prefer a nice pernil, with rice and peas and platanos for Sunday though ; ) just messing wit u.
“We prefer a nice pernil, with rice and peas and platanos for Sunday though”
um yeah where do you live and what time is dinner?
I do understand that your culture is different from those of us who do eat fried chicken and collard greens on sundays; but don’t deny your african roots (and im not saying that you are, just trying to get my point across). Regardless of what you eat for dinner, we are still the same to white america… not 100%white.
(and this is coming from the girl with the german mother… but i do recognize how the world sees me)
Shay:
I am black and my family eats rice and beans, crawfish etouffee,, brown stew chicken, etc. on Sunday.
We aren’t, for the most part, a fried chicken family.
I know you didn’t mean it but your comment played on a lot of stereotypes about black folk. Our culture is waaaay more than fried chicken. And hell…poor white folk love collard greens.
Black is a reference to the color of the skin, not a culture… or did I miss something?
I am African and yessir I am black!!! I eat goat stew, fufu, and other stuff that are not part of the Black American culture, but it does not make me less black.
At least not that I know of.
It burns me when I have to check off white, after I checked off Hispanic as my ehtnicity.
my mom has the same issue. and it really pisses her off when my dad calls her a white girl. which then starts the “i’m more black than you” debate and i get bored becuz i always know how it ends. dad goes back to watching tv like nothing happened while mom is slamming pots and pans in the kitchen becuz she’s angry. i love my family.
our families sound like they share tendencies lol.
is it me or can dads say stuff to our moms knowing full well how it will end, and why??
i love my family:)
lol yes! the thing with my dad (and perhaps many dads) is that he couldn’t care less if my mom or me is pissed at him. he doesn’t get all excited over confrontations or disagreements. as long as he has access to the tv remote and dinner*, he’s not really thinking about us.
*my mom would never not serve my dad’s food, no matter how much he pisses her off. if she hadn’t already cooked, before he set her off, she’d just tell him she didn’t buy groceries and he should order take out. and she then hands him a menu and the phone. good woman.
we truly are a great people
yes the heck we are!!
On a related note:
The 20 Ways Obama Will Change America
http://www.blackpower.com/politics/the-20-ways-obama-will-change-america/
“1. The White Man can’t hold you down any longer-That’s all done. That’s a wrap. You have no more excuses for underperformance. People may try to hold you down. Only YOU can let them.”
I’m kind of on the fence with this. I agree that “only you can prevent forest fires” and shyt, but I think the 2520′s are going to run with this and take it elsewhere. I can hear the 2520′s now saying that racism doesn’t exist anymore with a black president being there main argument. but we all know damn well that racism isn’t going anywhere anytime soon
“I’m kind of on the fence with this. I agree that “only you can prevent forest fires” and shyt, but I think the 2520’s are going to run with this and take it elsewhere. I can hear the 2520’s now saying that racism doesn’t exist anymore with a black president being there main argument. but we all know damn well that racism isn’t going anywhere anytime soon”
I feel you on this one. We can say racism is gone when millions of black people don’t have to pray that the president is able to walk off the stage.
“We can say racism is gone when millions of black people don’t have to pray that the president is able to walk off the stage”
word.
I feel you on this one. We can say racism is gone when millions of black people don’t have to pray that the president is able to walk off the stage.
yeah. i think i said this sh*t last week too, but during that entire speech, i was thinking to myself “ok…end this sh*t and get the hell back off stage, lol”
I remember you saying that. that makes me sad…do you all really think that he will be in danger all 4 years?
“yeah. i think i said this sh*t last week too, but during that entire speech, i was thinking to myself “ok…end this sh*t and get the hell back off stage, lol””
Yeah, thats where I remembered it from. But I am sure we were all thinking the same thing. As far as being in danger, who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of these bigots . . . we just need to keep our eyes on. I know mine have been on since that plot to kidnap 100 and something black folk and the good president elect. I walk around DC with my head on a SWIVEL!
IVR, i missed the fact you’re in DC! Yeah this scares me. I was not only praying for the Obama family, but people of color in general. I remember when Sept. 11 happened and Sikh people suffered losses because Cletus thought they were Muslim…so sad.
Ignorance is scary @ me. (I remember someone said that a coupla posts back and idied)
“Ignorance is scary @ me”
Twas my grl PBG that said it, and I almost hurt myself laughing so hard. I’m still laughing now.
“IVR, i missed the fact you’re in DC!”
Yeah, just moved here three months ago from the land of Palin (no I couldn’t see Russia) . . . I feel you on that ignorance business. . .I have to worry about crazy rednecks plucking me off the street “Old School” style instead of the Meeses that were stomping on people in the frozen north. . .We should all be allowed to conceal carry weapons . . . the people doing the bad stuff have them anyway. . . thats just my Independent two cents.
BTW . . . I dont know how you people that live here get around but this is possibly one of the most confusing places I have ever been to. . . I get lost. . . often.
IVR…it’s not confusing. Just follow the numbers and letters for the streets and the colors for the Metro.
You’re on your own for the state avenues. Only people who were born here actually understand those.
“IVR…it’s not confusing. Just follow the numbers and letters for the streets and the colors for the Metro.
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You’re on your own for the state avenues. Only people who were born here actually understand those.
Nah, thats not it, then u got NW, SE, SW, NE . . . I just stick to NW . . . everything I need is right there. Someone told me the states were in alphabetical order.
BTW . . . I dont know how you people that live here get around but this is possibly one of the most confusing places I have ever been to. . . I get lost. . . often.
Its confusing at first, there is a method to the madness lol. You’ll figure it out.
“Someone told me the states were in alphabetical order.”
Somebody told you a hot azz lie.
I do this to 2520 tourists wearing fanny packs on the Metro, especially when they stand on the left!
*fumes*
Dang PeeJay…did you flash a big ol’ illuminated “M” up in the sky when you started this blog?? There are a gang of “mixties” up in here.
Hello, my fair-skinned brethren and sistren.
Heeey. I’m fair and am no mixtie. Both my parents are black.
*prays PBG doesn’t look at my grandparents*
Not fair-skinned, you say? Well, are you a flaxen-haired temptress??
I don’t know WHY I love calling 2520 women that…but I do.
Just a regular ol’ yella girl.
V, you are one drop of 2520 to be considered a mixtie lol
this, after I got yo panties back?
mmmhmmm.
Hey! All nannies don’t steal or beat kids!! Some of us childcare professionals/early care and education specialists actually take a modicum of pride in our work w/children and families, and make a decent living @ it as well.
Dang…
OMG did you just type modicum…? do Jesus! That is hotter than a thermite stove in the summertime on the sun. woo
n why does the worst of a group always get the press. I do abhor the adage ‘squeaky wheel gets the grease.’
of course YOU do, PBG. You are the baby whisperer.
But some folks are trife. Years ago a woman recounted in Essence how she popped up on her child care provider during her lunch hour. the poor baby was still strapped in its car seat, jacket on.
I remember before we got our precious Miss Norma as a sitter, my baby brother got scratched by the Crazy Lady’s parrot and wasn’t getting his diaper changed regularly. I still remember the terror on Crazy Lady’s face as Daddy dragged Mama outta her house…
Speaking of diaper changes! Enjoy your offices/cubicles, VSBers. I just had to clean up the most putrid explosive dirty diaper this side of the Anacostia River. I had to strip the lil mini 2520 IN THE TUB, hose her down and sanitize everything: toys, playmat, blankies and my damn smock! I swear, these people don’t pay me enough. Yes, enjoy your offices and cubes.
Good luck, PeeJay. *snicker*
PBG, that is so true. Shoot, my freshman year of college I babysat these kids for $600 a week, (shoutout to Northern Virginia) and I know I did right by those babies.
i don’t doubt this at all, PBG. i just don’t like the idea of some one (for all intents and purposes) being ME to my child.
daycare, on the other hand, is different. there are lots of other kids interacting with each other, and its completely necessary and imperative for children to have these types of social interactions during their development.
i just don’t like the idea of some one being a one-on-one nanny/mother/person to my child.
Quality caregivers know that their first job is to make the Mommies & Daddies feel comfortable with the arrangement. Babies aren’t dumb…they’re just young. They know who their Mama’s and Daddy’s are and NannyLady ain’t it! LOL! My little charges let me know that on a daily basis. I always tell my BabyMamas and BabyDaddys that I am an expert in children, but they are experts in their child. They are the C.E.O.’s of their family…I’m just the Director of Daytime Activities for Children.
One on one care is best for very young infants, and if it can’t be you or a trusted family member, why not bring in a “family associate” i.e., a quality nanny (that you have background checked the H3LL out of)? It’s your kind of apprehension, Gemmie, that makes it impossible for me to work w/families of color! LOL!
i’m not saying my child would be confused who their mama is. not at all. i’ve known ppl with nannies, who come to the home and take care of the kids one-on-one. and i just don’t like that arrangement, it doesn’t seem like it’s for me. i’d prefer for my child to be in daycare with other kids (not siblings) in a more “school” like setting.
i grew up going to a daycare center at a house up the street from my parents. the woman who watched me was like my grandmother–to this day i still love her like she’s a blood relative. she treated us all like her kids. and that’s more the environment i’m looking for.
A school-like setting is 100% inappropriate for a child under 3, because of what and how they are developing @ that age.
A childcare center (we don’t say “daycare” anymore because “we care for the children, not for the day” per my professor, lol) like the one you described is a good place for a baby/toddler. I used to do that when I was living @home w/my parents when I had my first baby. It was great!
imma sprankle some glitter on that passion you have for your work..i love it!!!
you can tend to my little Rufus Madison Comeback Cefus Jr..as soon as I pop his little butt out ok?
but dont hold ur breath. LOL
“Hey! All nannies don’t steal or beat kids!! Some of us childcare professionals/early care and education specialists actually take a modicum of pride in our work w/children and families, and make a decent living @ it as well.”
i never doubted this at all. I can read this in the way you write. i just wanted to dispel the fact that at a certain level all of your extended family isn’t your on call chuckie cheese. And that Michelle does have help for Sasha and Malia that extends beyond the first grandma, which doesn’t negate that fact that Michelle is still the mama all day erryday.
he@l sometimes my single life is hard as hel! to manage..having help doesn’t make you less of a woman or a mother.
“which doesn’t negate that fact that Michelle is still the mama all day erryday….. and a dam!n good one at that.
“the al b. sure’s and el debarge’s of the world will be back with a vengeance, infesting nightclubs and happy hours across the country in their s-curled and baby haired glory. the light skinned brotha is officially back in style.”
I don’t think I have hated you this much in a LONG time! lol
i love you too, goody-good
as to the kwerstchun…I had this conversation w/ my favorite a few days ago and he asked if I had noticed a change in the posture of brothas since the election…and I have got to say YES! They were walking with a sense of esteem that you could see coming a mile away…I don’t know if it was just the glow of feeling like the stuck it to the “man” or if they were actually epitomizing pride that a dynamic leader was about to take control that is also a Black man…either way..you could tell…
I think that men with esteem of the muthufuiggin self make better daters…not conceited mind you, but a real sense of self love…now if it takes a Black POTUS to build that in the men that didn’t necessarily have it already, sobeit! I am just glad I saw it with my own eyes…and hope it doesn’t wear off too soon!
I am just glad I saw it with my own eyes…and hope it doesn’t wear off too soon!
btw, this is exactly what 8th wonder said after experiencing the first post-black presidential “o” with the champ
yeah, it was surprisingly good.
Even with the 1-incher.
OMG again must I stab my mind’s eye w/ a dull object in the Oedipelian form.
I need GoodE to come back and give the ear muffs call.
*cue scar tissue*
I cosign with this comment, EARLY!
Champ started it.
*waving finger* just cuz the champ get’s laked n touches himself you gonna do it too?! Know what don’t answer that.
I’m with you, G. The Obamas are making ALL hearts melt – you should see the PDA slideshows on HuffPost, and the gushy comments that follow. How many political families are as good-lookin’, heavy-lovin’, huggin’ and kissin’ as the Obamas? Clintons? Bush’s? McCains? (Seriously, why is Cindy always in a cast or on a crutch? I saw one picture that said she sprained her wrist shaking hands! Are her limbs made of paper mache? Or is it something more sinister…)
Anyway, we aren’t the only ones looking at them like they’re made of chocolate glitter and love. EVERYBODY’S doing it.
** made of chocolate glitter n love** .. new prospective VSB T-shirt!
Love it!
I’d wear it, proudly.
I think that the biggest change the Obama presidency has brought to our courting/dating/boning dynamic is one that occurred in the early morning of November 5, 2008 and all of the women who dreamed of president-elect Barack Obama… and the desk of the Oval Office….
yeah…i remember someone saying last week that michelle better be giving intergalactic brains for the next 8 years to save off all of the bobbleheaded groupies
obama would not entertain groupies. yall don’t know the power of the michelle’s.
*resident late poster*
I agree, michelle looks like she handles her handle- very well.
ah, that kind of rhymed.
late posters are people too…
i wonder if anyone will find me down here… been absent today… work and DRAMA.
pray fo a sista…
i see you girl…*prayers to glittery jesus for BBM*
see this is why i heart my VSB e-fam…
*hugs for the e-triplet*
ditto, that’s why i have been MIA today….
What’s up black mo! (okay that shortened nickname is weird…)
*pushing Sweet Brown Baby Jesus around in the Stroller of Infinite Blessings for BBMo’*
ctfu
Oh yeah, and this is the change that our culture needs these days. It shows what black love really can be. Not saying that the Obamas have the perfect relationship but they appear to be as close as you can get..lol
and yes Prez is gonna need a light saber to fend off all the puddy thrown his way…lol
715 comments and 300 of them before i even made it to work. Y’all been providing me with much needed chuckles today. I can’t weigh in with anything meaningful… sorry. I’m trying to believe my mantra “too blessed to be stressed” but a sista is kinda stressed right now.
just thought i would share… carry on
lol i know..it happened to me too..
aww..hang in there girl..just…breathe…lol
trying…. trying so hard.
thanks girl
no problemo.
BBmo! After hardship comes ease. Smile girl, it will pass, n the meantime here are a coupla hugs to tide you over.
We gots ya:)
relax. relate. release.
drink.
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Glitter for BBMo!
thanks e-sistas…. y’all gives me screnf.
I hate I got to this one LATE, but c’mon Champ. Just like this “Peter Pan” idea that ‘Da O is going to change the economy and the world next spring, his neo-Huxtable @$$ ain’t gonna make the DeBarges an item again.
For everyObama, there’s an Idris Elba or Morris Chestnut that GUARANTEES that aside from pigmentation…you must have swagger — period. Case closed. Dun-Sun. End of Line.
while i loved me some morris chest in like high school, i’m soooooo not into him now that i’m grown. like, he could not get the bizness from me. not with that crooked tooth in the bottom front.
idris on the other hand….
chile, idris can get it here or there, he can get it anywhere.
don’t make me go into dr. seuss mode up in this piece.
lmao *terrorist fist bumps e-twin*
funny how such a fine specimen as idris could bring out your inner seuss-ness.
i’d love him in the rain
i’d love him in the dark and on a train
and in a car and in a tree
i’ve love him so good, so good, you see!
*fanning myself* please don’t get me started…
yeah this site does NOTHING for being content with my situation lol.
*steals e-twins fan and runs*
keep it, e-twin. i keep a stock for occassions such as this
*pulls out another fan*
lmao @ your suess inspired ode to idris.
Ri-i-i-i-ight, Gem…but where you thinking about that tooth game while watching “Boyz in the Hood” ni 1991, when ole boy was laid up on that locker room bench in a bath town, w/ T3′s “Just Me & You” playing in the background?
I doubt it.
actually, i was feeling light skint boys back in the day when BITH was out. they were all the rage in socal. sooo… i was *cough*… ummm feelin (wishing this part of my history didn’t exist)… *cough* Cuba… *hangs head in shame*
I’m mad that Gemmie done been all up in the man’s mouth like that! Which number is the crooked one, Gem?? LMAO!!!
obamanation will make me give dudes with unusual names a second look. i typically have a strict rule. if your name is Jahtarious’l-oh, i assume two things: 1. your parents are idiots 2. so are you, for not changing that sh*t when you came of age to have a choice in the matter. dem’s not genes i want to pass on to my kids, so i keep it moving.
but, you know, i might now have a change of heart and sh*t.
“Jahtarious’l-oh”
That is better than my go-to ghetto name of Kitkatquisha… Ninja, that was funny!
As a card carrying member of the High Yellow Society of America, I am pleased to announce that we are BACK! That is all.
I’ll add my cents.
I don’t think Obama is bringing lightskin back in style. I’m partial to dark-skinned brothas, but what made me fall in love with Obama was his smile, confidence, intellect, coolness, and the love and respect he shows to his family.
I think Obama will a beacon for the Black Family. Their relationship is so refreshing and inspiring.
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