from his brazen infidelity to his choosing of someone extremely younger, poorer, less educated, and whiter, steve mcnair’s death at the hands of his mistress sahel kazemi and her subsequent suicide is a virtual petri dish of black relationship sore spots.
yet, after a weeks worth of conversation with different women, the single most recurring question about this situation has been less “why did he cheat?“ and more “why the hell would he downgrade??“
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despite never meeting him and possessing a personal “no exceptions/excuses” rule in regards to cheating and downgrading, i am aware of the thought process that could lead to him (temporarily) ditching a doting and attractive wife who personally nursed his injuries while he was still playing for a 20 year high school drop-out, and today i’ll attempt to break it down in two parts.
1. the freak factor
occasionally, you’ll see me use some variant of “to further vsb’s crime fighting commitments“ as a segue introducing whatever topic i have in mind that day. i know it probably seems like a useless vsb cliche, but that phrase does have a practical purpose. “well-informed and practical” people equals “good relationships”, “good relationships” equal “happy people”, and “happy people” equals “less crime download crazy eights .”
i’m bringing this up because i’m aware that there are some men who need to have frequent sex to basically keep them out of prison. sure, we all want to have consistent coitus, but there are men out there who are literal threats to murder people and small farm animals without any regular gotdamn. according to chris rock, our first black president was a no-coitus killer (“nck” for short), and i’m assuming steve mcnair was one as well
after reading that they were married for over a decade and had two children together (four altogether) i’m going to assume that they probably didn’t have frequent sex anymore. for a typical nck, the only way to make up for infrequent sex is if the semi-regular sex you do have is the freakiest, most degenerate, crackheaded crystal meth jungle possum mating possible.
i’m going to also assume that mcnair either,
1. wasn’t able to convince his wife to be this base,
or
2. was just unwilling to do that sh*t to her, understandably unable to synthesize “lovely wife and mother” and “four dollar f*ck slut” in his head.
this is where she…
…steps in.
some pictures say one thousand words. hers? three (“i’ll do anything”) download the holy mountain dvd , and a seasoned nck can sniff out a freak needle in a chaste haystack a mile away. it was only a matter of time.
2. the glory (days)
despite being a millionaire superstar quarterback, in his home steve mcnair was probably just like any other middle-aged married man, drinking oj straight from the carton, losing socks, and silently shaking his head when being reminded by his wife to separate the recyclables.
with sahel kazemi though, he was still able to be “steve mcnair, millionaire superstar” instead of “steve mcnair, can you run to walmart and pick up some bleach? oh, btw, i gotta go to the kids soccer practice later, so you’ll hafta cook or pick up some take-out“, and, for a person glaring at his prime in the rearview mirror, there’s a definite (if fleeting) allure to being around someone who thinks the sun rises and sets in your pants
i don’t want this to come across as supportive or even sympathetic to his actions. while noone deserves to die for desiring an undry d*ck, he’d still be filming anti-suicide psa’s if he left a 10 dollar tip at dave and busters several months ago instead of an erect one.
still, understanding helps. you can’t fight crime without it
—the champ
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I t hought he and his wife were seperated? I mean at the time of death she said she hadnt seen or spoken to him in 4 days. He also was pretty much living in the apartment where he was killed.
but if he was cheating.. cheaters cheat because they are scared and selfish..
scared to leave, whether it be because they fear life alone (women in most cases but not exclusively) or scared of being the bad guy (men in most cases but not exclusively) and selfish… still having everything they want without having to work or sacrifice to get it….
@shay_d_lady, add “probably” to the second paragraph since I aint no expert or nothin…..LOL
cheaters cheat (probably_) because they are scared and selfish..
scared to leave, whether it be because they fear life alone (women in most cases but not exclusively) or scared of being the bad guy (men in most cases but not exclusively) and selfish… still having everything they want without having to work or sacrifice to get it….
@shay_d_lady, it’s really sad that his selfishness (and her craziness) has resulted in those 4 kids now being father-less. Boo to poor decisions.
@Selah,
I know. I feel sorry for his kids on so many levels. It’s terrible that they probably have to hear people discuss the circumstances of their father’s death, too. Such complicated feelings they probably have.
@charli skipper,
the kids get hurt the most people forget that
@Selah,
my sentiments exactly
@Selah,
Boo to poor decisions.
i agree
@Selah,
jason whitlock from fox sports wrote an article about this last week. i originally had it linked in the entry, but i took it out because it didnt connect the way i wanted it to.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9777174/Don%27t-be-so-quick-to-make-McNair-a-hero
@The Champ,
“children shouldn’t have to settle for anything less than their father’s very best effort.”
iConcur. But his kids did. Anddddd now I’m sad all over again. Shouldn’t have come back to the post right after waking up.
@The Champ, its generally hard for me appreciate anything that whitlock says.
i read this article last week. i don’t remember anything he said. so I’ll just disagree on principle.
@The Champ,
its generally hard for me appreciate anything that whitlock says.
you’re not a fan of him or his writinh style (or both)?
@The Champ,
Whitlock is an idiot. Its actually my barometer to let me know if I’m on the right side or not of an issue.
@The Champ, don’t know anything about Whitlock status as an idiot but I can appreciate what he’s saying here…. the kids deserved more out of their father….this chick was closer to his kids age than he was to hers yet he deprived his boys of his time to spend quality time with her….sickening…. no need to repeat that he didn’t necessarily deserve what he got…(but who am I to say he whether he did or didn’t)
First off. His wife knew what was up. Dude was mad reckless and was known for keeping a side breezy or three around. He’s an NFL quarterback. If you marry an athlete, women, this is what you sign up for. There is no such thing as a free lunch. You get put up in the lap of luxury and have all your whims taken care of by a man, most likely he will also be doing something similar with a sidepiece. Girl I went to school with is married to an NBA player. That IS their deal. She knows what’s up. She accepts it because the lifestyle is vastly superior to being married to Brad, who will top out as VP of accounting at a mid-sized widget firm. People make compromises. I know women hate to hear this, but if you don’t like it, don’t marry an athlete. I’m attracted to Cherokee D’ass, but I know better than to marry her. I know who she is and what she does. As far as where Steve went wrong, folks gotta stop with these “jump-off pluses.” You don’t go parasailing with your jump-off, you leave $50 on the dresser so she can catch a cab home. You damn sure don’t cosign for an Escalade and make her make the payments on a Ruby Tuesday waittress salary. Also, to her whiteness, her name suggests she’s some kind of A-rab. Now Tennessee is a country a** state and Steve McNair is a county a** ninja. That Al Qaeda strange trim is the most exotic thing he’s seen in years. And she messed it up for all of them. Not only can’t her people get on a plane without arousing suspicion, now they can’t even be lowly jumpoffs anymore.
@Brandon St. Randy,
“now they can’t even be lowly jumpoffs anymore.”
if the rest of what you wrote about athletes cheating is true, then A-rab women and all other women are still gonna be fair game.. It’s gonna be “d*mn, that ho was crazy” … “I’m glad MY jump-off aint crazy like McNair’s” …. and they gon keep on keepin on.
@Selah, I agree with you. I think folks are gonna cool out for a minute while it’s still on the news and then get right back into the thick.
@Brandon St. Randy,
As far as where Steve went wrong, folks gotta stop with these “jump-off pluses.” You don’t go parasailing with your jump-off, you leave $50 on the dresser so she can catch a cab home. You damn sure don’t cosign for an Escalade and make her make the payments on a Ruby Tuesday waittress salary.
lmao indeed!!
and she wasnt “a-rab”. she was iranian. which, actually, may be worse
@Gem Possible, I find your racial insensitivity galling.
@Brandon St. Randy,
that’s ok
@Brandon St. Randy, agree with you on the fact that Steve was a bamma and that Kim Kardashian stunt-double was that “x-otic hype-notic” that will make a ninja lose his dayam mind. “Sunshine” had this fool buying Escalades and paragliding in broad daylight and traipsing around her apartment like a puppy. How else could you explain it? SPRUNG N DUMB You know this wasn’t Stevie Ballgame’s first time dilly-dallying w/trollops and/or skanks. I bet his boys were fit to be tied over this.
I am writing a sequel to AMERICAN BEAUTY featuring McNair called AMERICAN BAMMA
@T. Troy Stewart,
I’m glad you waited until this week to type this…lmao
@miss t-lee, ha ha ha had to find that funny
@T. Troy Stewart, That chick isn’t a Kim look alike. Sure she’s ‘check-other’ but that’s where the similarities end. We can tell from the pic in the blue dress that she doesn’t even have any ass. I’m a woman and I can tell the square shapedness of her from how she’s sitting. Don’t put Kim in the same sentence as this chick…OMG, did I just defend Kim K.? Fug it. Yes. I fuggs with Kim K.!
@Hostess, that’s why I called her a “stunt double”, not a “look-alike”.
@T. Troy Stewart,
yea after a few shots lol ya might think she could be one of the kara$$iasn’s cousin or sumthin but her face jus aint worth a escalade to me
@Hostess, and once again, I just don’t get the Kim K appeal. Some Ninjas won’t vote but they will fight you in the streets over a Justus Skanks star like Kimmy The Boo. I bet Stevie Airhead was the same way about that crazy rookie, too.
@T. Troy Stewart, I fuggs with her because she does the best she can with what she has. Other (Black) women hate on her but there’s really no reason. If she wasn’t on TV, men would still flock to her. That’s not her fault. Matter of fact, if they wanna hate on anyone it should be her parents because she’s a product of their combined genetic code.
@Hostess, “she does the best she can with what she has”
is that the best you got? lol
She’s a good looking lady, I’ll give her that. I just don’t understand why she is such a media sensation. Once you stop looking at her and she opens her mouth, the spell is broken. Woman, be quiet and pick up that pencil I just dropped on the floor…that rolled under that chair over there…yeah, that’s it…way underneath there.
in that department, she’s a big improvement over Paris Hilton and I don’t know why she’s a “star” either. I hear plenty of explanations but something in the water does not compute for me.
I just need to take the blue pill and shut up.
@T. Troy Stewart, Yes. She has no real talent. She’s gotten really far on a big ass and a chex tape. Hell!
@T. Troy Stewart,
I just don’t get the Kim K appeal. Some Ninjas won’t vote but they will fight you in the streets over a Justus Skanks star like Kimmy The Boo.
You know men are suckers for women with booty that aren’t Black (see Jennifer Lopez, Jenna Von Oy)…smh.
@Stuff Ghetto People Like,
lol @ “Jenna Von Oy” forgot about Six
@T. Troy Stewart,
“I just don’t understand why she is such a media sensation.”
lol, thing is, shes not really that much of a media sensation. sure, she has her own show, but so does toya carter. i kind of think she’s more relevant in the black community than anywhere else.
@Brandon St. Randy,
Also, to her whiteness, her name suggests she’s some kind of A-rab.
lol, she was actually iranian. still, euro or not, the fact that she’s considerably lighter skinned than he is is definitely part of that petri dish
@The Champ, In the context of this particular piece of ignorance, Iranians are certainly A-rabs as far as I’m concerned. Also to be included in the list of A-rabs:
-Turkish people
-Greeks
-Armenians
-Certain Mexicans (tell me Luis Guzman ain’t Saddam Hussein’s brother)
-Generally, anyone with a lot of arm hair
-Jews
-Dark skinned Chinese people (Filipinos, Viet Cong, Tamil Tigers, etc.)
-Cute white girls that you don’t want to admit are white (Sloan from Entourage, Monica Belluci, etc.)
@Brandon St. Randy, i’m with you on Sloan. for some reason, i just can’t reconcile her whiteness cuz i like her so much.
but your comment is reminiscent of the scene in The Brothers where Bill Bellamy’s mother just references every other race as a “white woman with xyz…”
i love ignorance, btw.
@Brandon St. Randy,
“-Generally, anyone with a lot of arm hair”
*loud laugh*
@Brandon St. Randy,
-Cute white girls that you don’t want to admit are white (Sloan from Entourage, Monica Belluci, etc.)
LOL
@Brandon St. Randy,
lol!…awww hunnie you don’t have to admit Sloan is white because she isn’t:-)….she’s Morocaan and I think Israeli
@Brandon St. Randy,
I’m extra late, but this was hilarious.
@Brandon St. Randy,
“If you marry an athlete, women, this is what you sign up for. ”
Are you saying it’s okay?!?!
@Ivy St., You’ll have to ask the people that sign up for that. I ain’t never married no athlete so I’ve never had to make that moral call. The compromises and deals people make in their relationships are their business, not mine.
http://brandonsaintrandy.wordpress.com/2009/07/13/romne-finance-part-ii-the-trust-issue/
@Ivy St., I don’t think he’s saying its ok, but he does have a point. That lifestyle seems to be par for the course when it comes to those in the sports and entertainment business.
@overit?,
so do you believe that ALL athletes cheat or that they cheat any more then the average man or woman?
@Ivy St., I believe they are put into more situations that have potential for cheating, more so than the average man or woman.
“I believe they are put into more situations that have potential for cheating, more so than the average man or woman.”
good answer and sh*t
@Ivy St., okay and par-the-course are two totally different discussions.
it’s not okay to get married and have jump-off stew every sunday thru saturday. however, should you enter into such a relationship the surprise really shouldn’t exist either.
face it, the real world aint real for superstar athletes…unless you’re michael vick and somehow get sent to jail for FINANCING your boys fighting dogs.
@Panama Jackson,
Funny you should say this. I was having a conversation with a good friend of mine who told me about a relative marrying a professional athlete. I said, “oh that sucks.” He became quite offensive.
He for some odd reason didn’t think that all athletes are cheats (maybe because he was an athlete) and that athletes don’t cheat more than the average. It’s just that they are in the spotlight more. I think my point was lost…
The fact that some cheat doesn’t mean they all do it. I think we justify it by saying they all do, when they all don’t.
@Ivy St., I think a lot of them do, because they have more opportunity to cheat and because a lot of women will do anything for a Louis Vuitton bag. That being said, there are athletes who are faithful to their spouses and I think the common link among them are they have had failed marriages before or they waited to get hitched once they were past their slut years or they “found Jesus”.
It may sound crazy to say, but I have a lot of respect for both men and women who have enough self-awareness to realize they’re not out of their bed-hopping period. And a lot of athletes actually fall into peer-pressure marriages (i.e. with a girl looks and acts like a NBA/NFL wife or with the high school sweetheart that’s been “down from the start”) because they think that’s just what folks do at a certain age. Still not a good foundation for a faithful marriage.
@Brandon St. Randy, her name is Iranian, to me at least.
@overit?,
she is, in fact, iranian. at least, that’s where she was born.
@Brandon St. Randy,
Whether she’s Arab or Iranian, history tells us that they have no problem with KILLING THEIRSELVES and YOU. This is why I don’t phuck with them nor white women. Thank you.
@Monk, Yes, because the Negro people are so nonviolent towards each other. Think I’ll throw on a red shirt and take a brisk jog around Compton for a while
I wonder what the Christies have to say about all of this LOL. I can recall people straight clowning Doug Christie’s wifey for the extreme ways she went about their relationship. Doesn’t seem so funny nowadays…
@T. Troy Stewart,
I’m sorry…I don’t even approve of how Doug Christie’s wife acts.
That ish is bananas.
If ya gotta do all that, is it even worth it?
But hey…if you like it, I love it.
@miss t-lee, I agree…that is not for me, that would drive me insane within two days and I’m being modest. Mrs. Christie got some issues but she wasn’t about to let groupies and assorted women be among them.
I think Doug puts up with it because if he were to get a divorce, she would beat him like a pinata and then chop him up into stew meat and eat his remains.
@T. Troy Stewart,
Yep…there are some much deeper issues than possible cheating…lol
@Brandon St. Randy, LMAO. God’s speed!
@Brandon St. Randy,
you’ll be fine with the red shirt. The blue one…. not so much.
@Brandon St. Randy,
You may not be able to jog in your red shirt but you rarely hear about Keisha off-ing herself and Dante….she may throw some hot grits on him but at least he gets to live…..
@Brandon St. Randy,
LOL! Only in Athens Park…
Bond.
@Brandon St. Randy,
“Tennessee is a country a** state ”
yeah but he’s a football player. I’m sure he’s seen and been with plenty of exotic women. Don’t let the country fool you!
@Ivy St.,
I’ve seen this in another thread somewhere. . . just because a man has been with lots of exotic women in his past doesn’t mean he is now s3x-exhausted and should not be tempted any further.
Women and eating carrots for ten years are on two different levels. I’d bet even rabbits give up carrots before they give up f*cking.
@kamakula,
“I’d bet even rabbits give up carrots before they give up f*cking.”
Thanks for the laugh!
@Brandon St. Randy, Oddly, Nashville can be pretty diverse. For example, we have the largest Kurdish population in the US. I know you were joking, but there are a lot of dumb people around so I felt the need to add that.
@12345, No kidding. NashVegas trying to go international, huh. Oh, add Kurds to my list as potential A-rabs. And most mixed black people.
@Brandon St. Randy,
lmao. i guess i’m a-rab?? i have been mistaken for one on more than one occasion.
@Gem Possible, me too I guess and I’m not mixed…well not first generation mixed…go back about two generations and the racial stew starts brewing
@Brandon St. Randy,
were you at ____’s house when “her” husband came through with her sister’s ex husband? They were in a white expedition… I heard the wedding was CRAZY. They had spelmanites all over trying to snag them one; even had a little incident with one of the ballers girls and a spellygirl about to get her wig split.
One day B–we gonna have to gchat/email to figure out our degrees of separation…
Bond.
Evolution (and that late night urge more specifically) is a crazy thing. I literally looked at that picture of her in the blue dress and thought, “Hmmm, she’s really not that good looking, and she killed her man, and she’s dead . . . but if I was taking that picture that night . . . .”
We exist today because chex for the sake of chex (not anything reasoned or pure) has been one of the consistent human desires since the dawn of man. I’ve come to grips with it. At least old boy went out in his sleep.
@An Island,
men are so cheap.
@charli skipper, they sure are, gurl. I don’t know what you all see in them. I am so glad that I’m a lesbian.
*cackle*
@T. Troy Stewart, u dumb as shyt. love it.
@T. Troy Stewart,
don’t make fun of my FEELINGS!!!
Troooooooooy.
@charli skipper, I am sorry about everything but the lesbian part.
@An Island,
“chex for the sake of chex (not anything reasoned or pure) has been one of the consistent human desires since the dawn of man”
but how come men/women can’t control that desire? I mean… that’s a sucky reason to die – over an inability or unwillingness or whatever to control that desire to just have random chex with people who aren’t your spouse/partner.
@Selah, I think men can control the desire. The real questions is, do they really want to.
With women give it up freely, KNOWING, the men are committed or married, and willing to keep the little discrestion to themselves, it seems like they really have nothing to lose.
After all, to them, I don’t think they see infidelity as deeply as women do. To them, it’s just a release.
@Nicki Sunshine, I think men can control the desire. The real questions is, do they really want to.
sigh, I really wanted to talk about who was the better black man, Fred G. Sanford or George Jefferson…
@T. Troy Stewart, Enlighten me.
@Nicki Sunshine, I feel a lot of this jump off stuff can be prevented…
by now Oprah has hipped you all to the fact that we men are dawgs. If Oprah said it, it’s truth.
Now that you have the knowledge and knowlege is power and what not, can’t all have a teleconference and declair a CROSS YOUR LEGS until that man has proven himself worthy of thine loins?
Just tell dude that he can’t be married, he can’t be a he-hoe, he can’t be giving Shawn Kemp and that Henry dude a run for the baby making money, you know the rest….
after they pass those test, just do one more thing…
hold off on breaking him off for one year. One, 1, I Alpha, Uno, etc…
you got what we want, surely if you mean anything to the dude, he’ll be there at the end of the year, right?
@T. Troy Stewart,
We’re talking the actual characters, or the philandering men who played them?
Even though gay as “‘Toine and Blaine” Sherman “Him”sley likey to play da rolling stone… Ask Carl Winslow and Philip Banks.
@Dante_Alexander, the characters! the characters! I don’t want to know what Carl and Unca Phil are doing on the dl either lol
@T. Troy Stewart, I agree with you. I think women need to be more responsible about who they let “in” those slippery walls.
But some struggle with, “if I won’t do it, someone else will.” I’ve done it PA-LENTY times in my day. What we have to realize is, “so what. Let his a$$ go.”
Personally, I can’t say that I am able to wait an entire year. lol. I have a great man now that waited for me but I couldn’t wait a whole year. I did wait until we were in an exclusive RELATIONSHIP though.
@T. Troy Stewart,
I’ll add that once you get him, do what you have to to make him happy, if he is doing the same for you. That’s one way to keep him away from the Sahel Kazemi’s of the world. Long term relationships breakdown on a lot of levels for a lot of different reasons. And these breakdowns usually come from the actions of both parties.
@Nicki Sunshine, most hardlegs ain’t gonna wait around a week, nevermind a whole year. You’ll know within a good three-four months what you’re dealing with and you’ll have weeded out a bunch of suckas as well.
@pgh muse, right right and for both men and women, little things MEAN A LOT. I can’t stress that one enough.
@Nicki Sunshine,
With women give it up freely, KNOWING, the men are committed or married, and willing to keep the little discrestion to themselves, it seems like they really have nothing to lose.
yep, and i’m sure that’s what Steve thought…
right up until he heard the gunshot.so unfortunate, and could’ve been avoided.@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….,Exactly
@Nicki Sunshine,
Let the woman be the one who cheats Nicki, I bet its deep then……
@OrangeStar616, I’m against anyone who cheats… regardless of your gender. Just so happens we are talking about a man on this post.
@Nicki Sunshine, I agree. I wasn’t really asking out of curiosity. I guess I shoulda said “wth is wrong with these men/women who won’t control their desires even though they know it can lead to effed up consequences??” LOL
@Selah,
but how come men/women can’t control that desire?
ohhhhhh please dont get me started and standing on my neuro/psych soapbox. the only ppl who cannot control their desires — be it sex or chocolate or shoe shopping — are ppl who have a chemical imbalance or lesions in their prefrontal cortex, therefore rendering them mentally unstable (see: sahel kazemi).
@Gem Possible, Thank you Gem Possible!!!!! Tell it! Women need to stop falling for the ‘I couldn’t help it’ game. But then again, I guess it’s easier to believe that than to accept that the men they chose are weak.
@Hostess,
i think men and women alike play the “it’s human nature” card and convince themselves its ok to succumb to sexual desires outside the “happy home” as if that were normal. no it’s not normal or ok if PROMISES are made that say “i/we shall be faithful”.
ugh don’t let me get going….
@Gem Possible, my etwin sure did get the left side of the brain.
@Selah,
“but how come men/women can’t control that desire?”
we all can. some of us just have to work harder at it than others, and some just don’t give a f*ck
@The Champ,
In other words, some people just suck. lol
@Selah,
LOL. Nice.
@The Champ,
True.
@The Champ, agreed. I remember reading what, for me, was the realest ish ever written on the subject a few years back in Esquire. Basically, the guy wrote in an essay that the only thing that will keep a man faithful is that man himself because even subpar, aging dudes get some type of trim thrown their way on occasion. Even if that man has a wife who isn’t egregiously out of pocket (still looks good, puts on a freak show every once in a while, etc.) he will still go out for drinks with friends/travel for work/see h.oes in the checkout line/experience temptation. Only being committed to the idea of commitment keeps someone faithful.
Check it, http://www.esquire.com/women/ESQ0406AAW_144_5
@Sheffield Swats,
“Only being committed to the idea of commitment keeps someone faithful.”
this is true. it basically comes down to how badly you want to be faithful
@Selah
Some men see opportunity and always act on it. Others never do. But we all continue to evaluate talent whether we intend to act or not. And I know plenty of women who do the same thing, so this isn’t about dudes being cheap, or us not having the inner strength and morals that women do.
@Selah, Don’t believe the ‘we can’t control the animalistic urge’ line. It’s some mess men’s PR came up with. Most can control the urge to kill someone so they can control the urge to stick and move it in any moist hole.
@Hostess, ITA man was given reason for a reason and yes it can be controlled its just some folk allow their carnal natures to control them…….
Self discipline, and self control are two attributes I find very attractive in men, along with a host others……
ummm….not to be petty about this morbid situation, but please tell me she was cuter than that in person.
@charli skipper,
Yeaaa…… I think it was the “I’ll do anything” factor that attracted Mcnair… not her cuteness. LOL
@Selah,
um, McNair was pretty average looking himself… I’d say they both about the same average 3 as far as looks go…
@maria,
but you know, for men, looks aren’t really their main commodity anyway. so his 3-ness doesn’t affect the type of woman he could “pull,” if other factors line up. so–and again. not to be petty or superficial about this morbid situation, but…–it sucks that his world ended for a da*n 3. i mean da*n.
@charli skipper,
Wait… What?
Some dudes, particularly those from places like Mt. Olive, MS, like the look of 3s, and would aregue to the death their hotness.
I worked in GA with Atlanta Public Schools for a time. GA was like the 49th state in ranking of academic success. Who was 50? Yup. Em-Eye-Crooked Letter,Crooked Letter… Coincidence? I think not.
@dante alexander,
what!?
@maria,
“I’d say they both about the same average 3 as far as looks go…”
lol, a 3 is average? what type of dyslexic metrics are you using?
@The Champ,
That’s that new math they teach in elementary schools so the kids can “learn what the numbers MEAN”.
By the way, I’ve never gotten below an A in math on ANY level, and I can’t do that sheet.
Oh yeah, and a 3 is average in any state south of the Mason-Dixon without a major metropolitan city. Like Bama. Or Miss. Or Ark. South Cak… being a 5 makes you the equivalent of Uncle Rico’s dream life back in ’82. If coach’d put you in, you’da won STATE.
@Dante_Alexander, hol up…Bama is not…..okay nevermind…I was about to defend my state and say it’s not a state where 3 is average…but alas….thank god I was blessed enough to find my way out…although there are plenty of 8s and 9s there….just not enough to balance out all the -5s…..
@maria, really? I thought he was kind of cute. In an I-have-no-integrity-or-self-control kind of way, of course.
@Selah,
I kinda did too. Thus my whole, “mens looks aren’t a commodity” tangent. lol
@maria, 3 does seem to be the average, lol.
@maria,
“I’d say they both about the same average 3 as far as looks go…”
Sexxy Panama will be very gleeful to learn that his scarlet 3 is accepted as average. Movin’ on up, Pan!
@charli skipper, She didn’t have to be cute. She was young, willing, and ethnicity unknown. If Black women get lightskinned points, high school drop outs get points for being young, dumb, check-other, etc.
@charli skipper,
If he McNair ain’t nothing but a country boy then it doesn’t take much. If you from the hood then you know some dudes that equate hotness to stats or exoticness. I remember dudes sweating this Lebanese chic at school that was terrible. These were the same dudes that thought I was crazy b/c I didn’t think the light-skinned chic with the 10 yr old boy body was hot.
i think this is one of her better pics.
@Liz,
*Rain Pryor sad face*
@Liz, See it isnt so.
@Liz,
i think this is one of her better pics.
i agree. this and her mugshot are by far the best pics ive seen
@The Champ, people here are in denial. with some makeup, weave and a tight dress she would be able to hold her own against any of these baller chicks. that’s probably HOW she got close to him in the first place. it probably wasn’t her resume or personality. some people here are disillusional in calling her ugly.
@Liz,
naw her face is bout a 6 body bout a 7 jus IMO
@Liz,
definitely better than terrica from candy girls. still, however…
I so want to be the wet-blanket for this post, but I’ll refrain from do so…
Bottom line jump-off’s, s.o., husbands/wifey’s etc. can all be crazy…it just seems like pple hook up with folks off the break w/o giving a f-ck and then get mad, surprised etc. when person is a crazy stalker-aint gonna let you go type person…look at arturo gatti, getting strangled by his crazy-jealous-ex-stripper wifey?
at the end of the day some pple like/get caught in drama and don’t think about the consequences of their actions cuz they don’t give a f*ck…
@maria, “at the end of the day some pple like/get caught in drama and don’t think about the consequences of their actions cuz they don’t give a f*ck…”
That way of thinking will get you killed. * no pun intended*
@JamaicanGirl,
Perhaps the monotony of married life of over a decade will cause one to be completely open and receptive to ANY form of stimuli… Just playing devil’s advocate…
@Dante_Alexander,
but when you get married, you are supposed to be accepting that it’s going to be just one person for the rest of your life – monotony at it’s finest.
@Selah,
There’s a difference between accepting familiarity, but never monotony.
The couple that plays together stays together.
Buy pron and be the most disgusting woman ever in bed. But then wake up and take the kids to their soccer game. There should be nothing wrong with that…
@maria, Y’all know what? I bet she displayed signs of crazy from day one. But he ignored them or didn’t take them serious. Very few people just ‘flip’ out.
@Hostess,
most men ignore the signs of INSANITY when they’re chasin that azz. and then have the nerve to be on some “and outta NO WHERE she flipped out”. n*gga puh-leeze!! that bish came out the womb needing antipsychotics…
@Gem Possible,
true ninja will put up with a lil feistyness but this ninja aint really like her anyways he found her weakness was money and played it but ended up gettin played in the end he prolly neva thought she would blast him
@Gem Possible,
most men ignore the signs of INSANITY when they’re chasin that azz.
eh. i dont know if this trait is gender-specific. women are just as, if not more, prone to ignore dangerous ass red flags in pursuit of perpetually wet panties
@The Champ,
It’s not perpetually wet panties. i thought being the Champ and all you’d know that. Women seek love. Don’t get me wrong, good chex is great, but most women equate that to love and not just the physical feel good.
@The Champ,
i gotta agree with Poison Ivy. women will ignore danger signs for a MAN, period. but for men, i think they’re more prone to ignore signs of crazy when they’re after a jump off’s goodies rather then seeking wifey material.
just my op.
@Hostess,
yeah. men think that crazy sh*t is cute at first. trust….i ain’t right yall.
@charli skipper,
***cutting and pasting my 1:38 response to gem possible***
That kind of crazy…to me…does not just show up over night. They were together for a bit right? There had to be a few “I’ll cut your d*ck off” or “if you ever left me
you’dI’d die” moments before this. He probably though that s*it was cute or something.@Mr. Mister,
Yep…there are always clues to the crazy. If a dude starts showing signs early in the game then I’m out…lol
Some dudes ignore the signs or like you say “think it’s cute”.
I never think crazy is cute. Crazy will have you hogtied in your own trunk.
@miss t-lee,
Crazy will have you hogtied in your own trunk.”
Word to flashing lights.
@miss t-lee,
Crazy will have you hogtied in your own trunk.
lol, this could be its own entry
crazy will have you…
…hidden in a mailbox
…smell testing your brita to make sure it aint bleach
….asking the cops to come arrest your own ass
….swallowing evidence
….naked at times and places you’re supposed to be unnaked
@The Champ,
“…smell testing your brita to make sure it aint bleach”
*giggling loudly*
You’re right…you should make that entry happen….lol
@The Champ,
this would be a golden post. make it happen.
@Mr. Mister,
“That kind of crazy…to me…does not just show up over night.”
i agree. i get the feeling that he realized around the time of her dui, but the fact that he was a foot taller than her and outweighed her by 130 pounds probably gave him a false since of security around her
@The Champ,
hell yea he prolly thought he could break up with her and she would run home crying. worst thang that could happen is she goes on you-tube and roasts him he neva thought she cap him
@BLUNTBLAZER,
my friends and i live by a very simple philosophy: “you f*ck with me, you stuck with me”* now, luckily for your average triflin brother that might be thinking he can just pop the top and bust out, i’m celibate. so the philosphy isn’t even that applicable to me right now. but i could definitely see my f’ing somebody’s world up for pulling a hit it and quit it. Not so much because i’m hurt. but, oh, you gon’ respect my mind! it’s the principle, folks.
*unless and until i don’t want you no mo’
@charli skipper,
also, some clarification: i don’t think average brothers are triflin. i’m just talking about the average triflin brother. i’m not a male basher.
@Mr. Mister, I just responded the previous comment with the same thing. He are >HERE<!
Great minds must think alike. I used the same TMZ pic yesterday for a different post called “Jump-Off Rules” (http://shakashawshow.wordpress.com/2009/07/13/wife-vs-jump-off/) I am in awe of the fact that McNair was brazen enough to be out and about with this skeezer taking trips and parasailing or whatever with a wife at home, separated or not. Mad disrespectful! Which makes me feel like the wife knew to some degree because aint no way a Black man in the public eye is gonna be caught out there like that, especially with a chick who isn’t Black! If Sahel didn’t kill him, the wife would’ve. I just think maybe she had a good situation going with the money and the house (and probably no degree) which made her not give a damn…we’ll be seeing pics of her soon in Jamaica somewhere parasailing with a young tender gettin’ her groove back in the near future.
@shakashawshow, “mad disrespectful” indeed.
@shakashawshow,
http://shakashawshow.wordpress.com/2009/07/13/wife-vs-jump-off/
good list and sh*t
@The Champ, lol thanks Champ.
@The Champ,
I agree…very good list…Shaq’s Jump-off is dumb!!!
@shakashawshow, This is probably because this wasn’t his first time. People who allowed to show their ass only get more brazen with each event.
@shakashawshow,
“Which makes me feel like the wife knew to some degree.”
I feel like women always know. Whether they choose to do something about it is another logic in itself. How could she not know especially since it had been going on for months. If that is their situation, I can’t really be mad at him for it.
@Ivy St., I see what u mean but hes still an ass for that…just man up and let her know she aint covering her bases. Save the headache. Unless he didnt get that pre-nup straight lol.
@shakashawshow,
“just man up and let her know she aint covering her bases.”
Is it really about her not covering her bases?!?! or just him being a selfish asshole? I feel like a cheater will cheat because they are a cheater.
@Ivy St., nah not necessarily. It takes maturity to be committed to a woman (one woman). Im not exonerating cheating men by any means, but I do think if a man has all his needs covered AND is mature, he will keep his ass at the crib instead of looking for that new-new. But on the flipside, women know when they aren’t doing all they can to make their man happy. A lot of sistas act like them just putting up with his ashy a** on a day to day basis is enough. Brothas get the short end of the stick a lot in society and in the workplace so we like to be made to feel a little kingly at the house if possible…so what. It shoudl be reciprocated of course but you cant NOT do certain things and expect to keep a man. But Im not saying anybodys at fault aside from dude who cheated.
I keep telling these girls that always wanna compare the wife to the jump off on some “why would he cheat with her?/She’s not even cute” type steez.
It’s not about that, it’s never about that.
It goes both ways as well.
@miss t-lee, as Katt Williams says “if you won’t do it, there’s a raggedy b***h that will” lol
@shakashawshow, LOL! Raggedy Batches and Batch Naggas mess things up for everyone
@Selah, “I suggest you stop dealing with batch naggas”…I can spot one a mile away why cant most women? My female friends run their new naggas by me all the time and I let em know off top if i see batch tendencies.
@shakashawshow,
dam thas so dam true so dam true
*cue the pity party music*
Men are such F@#$ing babies!
“Waah, my wife won’t have crazy monkey chex with caramel sauce, nipple clamps and glitter..”
“Waaah, I want to be treated like a superstar every time I wake up, just because I breathe free air!”
Lawd, when will men grow up and realize that the sun doesn’t F@#$ing rise and set on your “entitled” a$$es?!?!?
*end pity party….continue with your regularly scheduled program…*
@Numbah 5, “Waah, my wife won’t have crazy monkey chex with caramel sauce, nipple clamps and glitter..”
I like Chex. Glitter, not so much. Gawd, Mariah was even worse than she was at the MJ memorial service…
@Numbah 5, I dont know about nipple clamps thats suspect…and i dont condone cheating but some women aint even willing to give head. Quickest way to lose a man, especially a black one.
@shakashawshow
That’s a definite deal breaker. Especially jumpoffs who think they should get but all they gotta give up in return is the @ss. F*ck outta here. It ain’t my fault you have less ways of getting to the promised land.
And for s.o.’s, giving head is like spending time with his family or cooking for him when he’s sick . . . even if you don’t like doing it, you should do it out of love. And the man shouldn’t have to hear you complain every time about how little you enjoy it.
@An Island, I agree but I think she should love it…you can always tell when a chick is just doing it. Nothing like voluntary head or getting pinned down cuz shorty is anxious to give up the skully.
@shakashawshow,
dam beat me to the punch hell yea. I started actin stuck up lately no dome then bish go home.
@shakashawshow,
If you meet a woman who is not giving head, you should take hers OFF.
that is all.
Bond. BlkBond.
@Numbah 5,
“Waaah, I want to be treated like a superstar every time I wake up, just because I breathe free air!”
Lawd, when will men grow up and realize that the sun doesn’t F@#$ing rise and set on your “entitled” a$$es?!?!?
I think these two statements apply to women more than men. Women usually have the entitlement and being treated like a superstar issues.
@Humble_One,
Especially if that sort of behavior was present in the beginning…
If you did have crazy, monkey, Ice LaFox type animal fooking when you were in a fledgeling relationship, and then you snagged the dude and he married you, and THEN you decide not to go that route… You hustled backwards, and dude is gonna step out. Sorry. You can’t change mid-stream.
And this goes for ALL behaviors that are routinely expected after courtship, really, and applies to men AND women.
If dude tricked on a chick, he better for damn sure do it later, too… or the trick is gonna dip.
If she had the equivalent brain power of 3 Steven Hawkings and 4 Einsteins (fell-atingly speaking, not smarts, of course), along with the chex drive of RoxyReynolds, and the disgustingness of any hardcore 2520 pron chick, THEN decided after she got that ring she’d better tone it down?
Epic fail. Seriously. I’m just being honest.
@Dante_Alexander,
“If dude tricked on a chick, he better for damn sure do it later, too… or the trick is gonna dip.”
Word. I got a homeboy like this. When him and his wife were dating and engaged we all told him about himself. Dude paying for this and that, talking about he don’t want her to work. When they got married and money got tight the problems started. She is mad at him because he can’t pamper her. He is mad because she is not stepping up by being more responsible and supportive. We all tell him that he got exactly what he asked for and can’t be mad at anyone but himself.
@Humble_One, I disagree. She is his wife. That is what for better or worse means. When times get hard you are supposed to support each other. Nothing stays the same forever.
@pgh muse,
I agree. That is the problem. One person is supportive and the other isn’t. When your wife’s comfort comes at the expense of you there is a problem. The responsibilities should be shared and not fall on one person.
@Numbah 5,
“Waaah, I want to be treated like a superstar every time I wake up, just because I breathe free air!”
that made me cackle!!
but seriously, i think ppl (men AND women) should def be supportive, doting and think the world of their spouse. esp on the woman’s part when it comes to a man’s ego (and i do mean EGO). what i’ve learned in my grown up years is that men need their egos (and “egos”) to be stroked and handled with care. men typically need to know their women are holding them down (in ALL ways) and are truly their biggest cheerleaders.
women may be high maintenance when it comes to material needs, but men are high maintenance when it comes to physical and psychological needs–they’re the big babies.
@Gem Possible, when it comes to a man’s ego (and i do mean EGO)
lol.
@Numbah 5,
Lawd, when will men grow up and realize that the sun doesn’t F@#$ing rise and set on your “entitled” a$$es?!?!?
thats a ton of ass
I can sum it up in one word……selfishness……… be it wanting more sex or wanting to recapture some sense of former glory..it all boils down to pure selfishess and like I said in another post here recently selfishness will indeed sabotage the selfish in the end..not necessarily in the form of murder God forbid, but there will come a time of reckoning, and you can bank on that!!!!!!
@OrangeStar616,
thanks!!!!!!
@OrangeStar616, *choir*
@OrangeStar616,
Ya know, it’s somethin’ else that after his act of selfishness, the very thing that he cherishes most was taken away: his life (himself).
@Cheekie,
he aint read the fine print on the label he jus started poppin pills
@BLUNTBLAZER,
Nicely put!
All I know is the chick who killed him was like 23 and so was the one who killed the boxer, Gatti.
Lesson: Snatch that’s too young kills older men.
The only one immune to death is Marion Barry. Everyone else needs to watch their necks and heads!
@Hostess,
So… If I want young snatch I should either be mayor of a major city or smoke some crack?
Sounds do-able…
@Dante_Alexander, Pretty much. Marion amazes me. people keep voting for him out of loyalty. And I keep enjoying the headlines about him. He, much like Eazy-E, is always into something. Hopefully it ends better for Marion than Eric.
@Dante_Alexander,
Nopes. Have you forgotten Kwame Kilpatrick already?
@kamakula,
Kwame bought Yac and a navigator with City Money and got re-elected.
Marion was caught on camera smoking a jumbo.
I think there’s a difference.
But no, I never forget him. The manoogian is right around the corner from the Crib… He’s a hero to degenerates everywhere. You too can be mayor!
@Dante_Alexander, Big ups to the D!! Kwame had been messing with that chick since his days @ Cass. And uh, weren’t he and her ex-husband friends?
@Dante_Alexander,
I’m not sure what difference you are talking about?
You said something about being a mayor of a big city = get out of jail free. Kwame is a perfect example of this not being the case. Yeah, he got re-elected and then resigned as part of a plea bargain.
Kwame is the counter example to Marion.
@Hostess,
It’s not just because they are young. Dudes go after these young pretty princesses with their vision set on tunnel. All they see is @ss and having it to themselves. Some men still don’t get that these women don’t know their role. They expect to be spoiled and tended to. The men think that just because they spoil them they can do whatever they want.
@Humble_One,
4real me bein almost 28 i recognize that mentally any thang yunger than 23 aint gonna work for me
Air McNair went out in a terrible way. Something tells me that he didn’t play this woman right. Instead of keeping it real with her he sold her a dream. The trip(s), Escalade, and so on. I am willing to bet he told her everything she wanted to hear and since she was young(which doesnt matter cause older women fall for it too) she was all in. He either had another woman outside of her or was getting ready to kick her to the curb.
@Humble_One,
That’s what I always thought. he sold her a dream, and she lost it when she realized she was being sold a dream…
That’s why you don’t lie. If you told her from jump she was gonna be “your side chick” and there was no future in you two, it’d have been harder to bed her (maybe) and you wouldn’t have had to cosign for a damn Escalade.
@Dante_Alexander,
he she was in dreamland started sellin all her furniture prolly quit her job n shii tellin her whole fam she rich and she found a baller talkin bout he even bout me a cadi truck look. She was so embarassed when she found out it was fake her 23 yr old mind said its all over.
I think the post is spot-on. It was part wanting to be “Air McNair” in someone’s eyes again. This young Iranian breezy came into the picture who prolly was drooling over him at Dave & Busters. That’s all it took.
I also do not believe his wife did not know. In TN, McNair is still the man. He took the Titans to their only Super Bowl appearance. So to have him trollopin around with his shawty…word had to get back. Her calculations were simple, leave him and be less financial secure or stay and deal?
Now I don’t hear the same level of venom for Gatti’s wife who allegedly strangled son in his drunken sleep. Where are her venomous comments?
@Stank-0,
“Now I don’t hear the same level of venom for Gatti’s wife who allegedly strangled son in his drunken sleep. Where are her venomous comments?”
Oh really? I heard plenty yesterday on another forum I frequent. Chicks were congratulating her…I was like wowwwwww.
@Stank-0,
“Her calculations were simple, leave him and be less financial secure or stay and deal?”
Honestly I think she makes more leaving him… if my math is right. They did have FOUR kids. All she needed to do was invest if she was worried about future security.
@Ivy St.,
some chicks, they like the status of being the wife of a baller, money is just a part of it. they want and like being in the spotlight, and don’t want to give that up, and the perks that come with it. Not just speaking of Mrs. McNair, but all current and potential baller wives….
@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….,
You are probably right. If that is the case, how do they accept the humiliation that comes with it? I mean your husband is a start, folks know he is cheating and they are talking about you behind your back. I think that is a miserable existence. :/
@Ivy St.,
Money. Period. We live in a time where morality is for sale–for an opportunity to drive a Bentley, live in a mansion, have photo ops, etc. Alot of these women will gladly trade in their sense of self worth for Money and Status. GLADLY.
Bond.
Y’all know who I feel bad for in this whole deal? The other chicks. You know there had to be other side pieces. None of those chicks are in his will.
Dear Side Pieces:
Get all you can when you’re with the guy cus unless you get pregnant and keep the baby, you won’t get shyt when he dies.
Sincerely,
Hostess
@Hostess,
I felt the same way when I heard this story. She messed it up for e’rebody. Their are car notes, rent, cell phone bills, and vacations that will go unpaid for now. She obviously has never read the “Ten Jumpoff Commandments”.
I disagree with the notion that moving to a 20 year old persian chick from the mother of your children is a downgrade. Going younger and freakier is by definition an upgrade. And she’s new to you? FOH.
That being said, I don’t know if I can comment on McNair. McNair is not an average guy.
An average guy knows that although his biological viability to spread his seed is much longer than a woman’s, but his game suffers the second he commits to a relationship. (for you cats in denial, let’s just say your game gets hyper-focused on your woman to the exclusion of all others)
But McNair? I can only assume he was a good ball player from the 6th grade on up. Which means from age 12, he had his pick of attractive women. He definitely ran through more than his fair share, but that’s the benefits of being @ the top of the pyramid
Consider the factors
- young (at one point)
- black
- rich
- athletic
- famous
- experience with running through chicks
You think Warren Buffet or Bill Gates wouldn’t trade more than a few billion to be Dhani Jones for a few weeks?
This builds a sense of entitlement. And as we all know by watching our 2520 “friends”, this sense of entitlement rewards itself. (which is nothing but frustrating)
And given his athlete status, he has undoubtedly faced problems that many of us have had, but they’ve been resolved by others.
- grades – coaches, tutors, some chick in anthropology to write his papers
- law – Cochran on call
- money – got lawyers watching lawyers so they don’t go broke. (they should use accountants for that, but I digress)
Oh sure, it might have been “hard”, the same way that Paris Hilton can feel bad about missing a dog, but it’s not hard, like laborers on Bangladesh.
So being @ the top means you can do whatever you want w/o consequence.
Be as flagrant as you want to be. (hell even Warren B had a well known side piece..) Politicians, Actors, Athletes, Musicians, Entertainers, some really rich folks, ….they don’t live in our world.
There is no “stepping out” for a cat like McNair. This is his reality. As deluded as it may be, a world of little to no consequences is one that he lived in.
*and there most definitely a female corollary to this.
@WestIndianArchie, You think Warren Buffet or Bill Gates wouldn’t trade more than a few billion to be Dhani Jones for a few weeks?
I know Donald Trump would LOL years ago on national TV, to boot, he said as much, not about the sexin’ part but I know that was part of the appeal, too, about wishing that he could be a young black man coming up in the 90s (early 90s).
He made the mistake of not knowing that he would be followed by Spike Lee LOL who said to Bryant Gumble (who was the host of the special and who tried his best to gloss over it LOL)
“Bryant, did you hear what Donald said?” Then they both burst out in laughter…
@WestIndianArchie,
don;t mean any harm but as verbose as this was, LOL, there are always consequences, money or status does NOT exempt one from Karma, the principle of sewing and reaping and universal law etc…..
In McNairs case its extreme, he paid but with his life!!!
@WestIndianArchie,
“But McNair? I can only assume he was a good ball player from the 6th grade on up. Which means from age 12, he had his pick of attractive women. He definitely ran through more than his fair share, but that’s the benefits of being @ the top of the pyramid”
i remember having a convo with a friend a few years back about carmelo anthony. the friend was arguing that melo should have gone straight to the league, and the main basis of his argument was nba groupies.
i told him that for a dude like melo who’s been a basketball star since he was 12, groupies are nothing new to him. he’s probably had the pick of the litter since he was 14.
lol, this is my longwinded way of saying “i agree”
@WestIndianArchie,
This is the realest ish I’ve seen in a long time. Your on genius status for this comment alone. Ladies, click the print button…da boy done let the treasure loose.
Bond.
she must not have been a good side piece if he is having her pay for the whip he bought for her.
@Tallgent, I wondered about that myself… Isn’t the idea supposed to be buying the car, not just paying the down payment? What kind of f*ckery was going on here?
@Selah, He must have thought he was teaching that young ho the value of a dollar…Stupid bamma, she taught your arse the lesson, fewl.
@T. Troy Stewart,
Bwahahaha! He lost that battle when he started trying to teach her a lil somethin … she was a high school dropout. They don’t like that learning, from what I hear.
@Selah, I have no idea, he had enough money to pay for her crib and the car. This only goes to show that she was missing something. She got played by an older dude. He got the draws, she was suppose to be taken care of, isn’t that how the game is played?
@Tallgent,
That’s what I thought! Either she really was that dumb… or Mcnair was really that good at selling her the dream.
Both for $2000, Alex!
@Tallgent, she must have thought she struck it rich with the Shah Of Nashville. Steve should had his butt on the NFL Network with them other marble mouthers like Warren Sapp and Marshall Faulk and he would still be here. Dummy.
@T. Troy Stewart,
4real doin hair coloring commercials with emmit and clyde fraizer
@Selah,
lol, from what i read, he didnt even make the down payment. he just co-signed, and she was still paying f0r her other whip.
@The Champ,
Yep…I read that too.
Were you as equally confused as I was?
@Tallgent, Good point. Ho fail.
@Kindred Smile,
“Ho fail”
LOL!
@Tallgent,
I was thinking the SAME thing! How is she still having to pay the monthly bill?!?!? Anyone can cosign on a loan.
I am seeing a lot of anti-Southern sentiment in the responses to this entry. For those who don’t know, Bama is a slur.
@Legendary Dash, you’re right, I shouldn’t be comparing McNair to the state of Alabama.
@T. Troy Stewart,
*snickering*
@T. Troy Stewart,
Especially when the State motto is “Thank God for Mississippi”.
@Legendary Dash,
LMAO! Now that ish…classic.
@Legendary Dash,
I already know…I addressed it yesterday, so I won’t be addressing it today.
@Legendary Dash, Actually its a NOUN, may have started out as slur but can be flipped and bounced in a variety of ways that aren;t alwasy negative….this message has been brought to you by the DC Slang Commission.
@OrangeStar616, what slur? I always thought it was slang for “blissfully country”
@T. Troy Stewart,
it started out that way many many moons ago, but has since changed meanings with the years and generations
@OrangeStar616, what say you? what is it now?
Harry Potterrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
@overit?,
WHOOOHOOO!!!!
@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall…., i’m CISED!
@overit?,
me too. trying to decide if i want to see the midnight show or just play hookey tomorrow at work, and catch an afternoon show….
@overit?, who you tellin!!???
@Selah,
@overit?, F*CK YEAH
@overit?,
I won’t be there.
@Ivy St.,
Me no likey the Harry Potter.
So that’s a no-go.
@miss t-lee, see my response to ivy.
@Ivy St., this a harry potter fan thread, needle your way out!
@overit?,
lol i knew you’d be hypin this up!! i’m going to see the premiere showing at midnight–can’t wait!!
@Gem Possible, lol, you know me too well. yay!!
Wait, is “extremely younger” one of the reasons why it was a downgrade? Was his plan to have lengthy intellectual conversations with her or have sexay time?
Anyhow, McNair was all kinds of wrong for his decisions, but I don’t wish real death on anyone (just the playful figurative kind). Not even
Dick CheneyDubya Bush.@Cheekie,
Dick Cheney can’t die. He is the living incarnation of the Dark Side of the Force. He makes Darth Sidious look like Barney the Dinosaur.
@blackberry molasses,
Trueness. You have to have evil to have good.
Women should have more respect for other women!
@Ivy St.,
amen!!
@Ivy St.,
Yeah, more folks in general need to apply the “walk in the other ninjas shoes” method. They need to think about how they’d feel if it were done to them.
@Ivy St.,
If you can’t respect yourself, you probably can’t respect anyone else, either.
@8th Wonder,
good point.
Another thought, his wife went the memorial where everyone spoke about how great of a man he was, I wonder if a wondering when women will stop, at least publicly, standing by their man when he steps out. I know dam well aint no man standing anywhere near a chick after she has done some dirt.
@Tallgent, she was probably thinking about the kids.
@Selah, this is not about her. its about all women who have stood next them on the podium.
@Tallgent,
“wondering when women will stop, at least publicly, standing by their man when he steps out.”
I have been thinking and wondering the same thing. At this point I can only laugh at how ridiculous they look. The husband thought so much of himself when he stepped out on you and NOW after you find out, you still have to be selfless to support his selfish ass?!?!?! I’m so confused. Being the wife of a politician or athlete will not work for me!
I watched John Edwards wife yesterday on Oprah and I just thought UGH!
On the flip side, I guess when you love someone you stick by them even if they have hurt your or done you wrong. Real feelings can’t just be shut off.
@Ivy St.,
“Real feelings can’t just be shut off.”
This pretty much sums up everything.
@miss t-lee, Makes me happy to be a dude, cut all that feeling ish out and move my behind on
@Tallgent,
As you should be happy…lol
@Tallgent,
Stop it! lol! Dudes have feelings too!
men don’t have feelings. they have penii.
@blackberry molasses , you are correct we have our penii and pride and wont break them for nobody!!!!
In a somewhat related topic to McNair (since he also has the “Mc” prefix in his name):
I finally tasted the Angus Beef triple pounder this past weekend! Yum. Talk about upgrades. Nice job, Ronald McDonald.
@Cheekie, McDonald’s food will rot your brain. Just like watching the TV does. (at least that’s what my grandma says LOL)
@Selah,
LOL…yeah it does. But it doesn’t hurt to have it once in a while.
Hmm.
Okay, it does hurt, but at least you can counter-attack it successfully.
@Cheekie,
I’m not a McDonald’s lady but I do love me some Chik-fil-A.
@Ivy St.,
I really wish I could try that (I have to go outta state in order to do so…but will visit when I go to a state that has them), cuz I’ve heard nothing but good things about it.
@Cheekie,
Chick-fil-A was born of heavenly goodness. And on the fast food rating scale, it is graded the least likely to give you coronary artery disease. They use peanut oil to cook their food. No hydrogenated oils of any kind. And the chicken actually looks like… chicken. Like, you know what part of the bird it came from.
@Cheekie,
It’s good, and plus they have diabetic coma inducing lemonade.
Their shakes are good too.
@miss t-lee, YES, love the lemonade. man, if i could sum up freshman year of college in 2 words and a letter, it would be chick fil a lol.
Has anyone said he was just a “dumb jock”? If not, I’ll be the first.
Not taking anything away from his athleticism or his skill level as a leader of an NFL team, but it doesn’t surprise me that his off-field decisions would be poor. Of course infidelity shouldn’t equate to murder, but the chick was young and had an Iranian name. Don’t those people kill themselves?? Yep. A light bulb should’ve gone off in his head.
I’m aware that this is a very insensitive comment. Oh well…
@Monk,
valid point. maybe mcnair just wasn’t the brightest bulb in the, ummm, bulb basket
@The Champ,
dead @ bulb basket
@Monk, OMG people, get your suicide bombers in a bunker! palestinians blow themselves up, lmao.
any iranian ones were copycat crimes.
You know what the real problem is, McNair violated the cheating rules. . . which coincidentally are pretty much the same as the dating rules. I’ve said it before:
1. Do not be unequally yoked: Cheat only with someone in the same situation. If you are married with no plans on leaving your spouse, you’re better off cheating with someone married with no plans of leaving their respective spouse.
2. Date no younger than (1/2) your age + 7. McNair was 36, she was 20, so clearly way below his cutoff of 25. Furthermore, I think this rule needs to be amended with a minimum age of 21.
3. Be honest (lol, yes I know you are cheating on someone but. . .): Don’t tell the girl you are leaving your wife for her. Especially when you are Steve McNair. If she can’t handle that you’d never leave, you can probably find you some other 20 year old. In fact, it appears young Kazemi suspected that he already did. This leads to rule 4.
4. Don’t actively start a new relationship when you haven’t ended your old: If you know that you’re going to end your relationship, don’t hold onto it while you work on starting a new one just so you can have an unbroken stream of people in your life. End it first, then move on.
5. Don’t goto sleep without first wrapping her up in your arms: This serves a couple purposes – it could lead to sex or just good vibes with you lovingly holding her as you goto sleep. Plus, if she has to struggle out of your hands to get up, it makes it harder to get shot.@kamakula, I like #5.
@kamakula,
I like your list. #1 is the best rule but I’m not sure I’m cool with people thinking it’s ok to be unfaithful. Why not just attend a wingers club if you MUST spice it up.
@Ivy St.,
Cheating isn’t about spicing things up. If you both want to spice things up, it will happen.
Cheating is when one person decides that there is something else they want that they can’t get (and won’t be allowed to get) from/with their current partner, but for what seems to be complex reasons, they cannot leave either.
I’m not justifying it, just providing the rules.
@kamakula,
Cheating is not always about spicing it up. If it were about spicing it up, why downgrade? I think cheating is about self and self alone. Someone could be giving you the world. If you like to dibble and dabble, then you will.
Sometimes cheating is all about getting away with it or feeding one’s ego.
@Ivy St.,
Of course cheating is about self. Most things in life pretty much are about satisfying our own wants or desires. If other people happen to benefit, that is just gravy.
I’m not even sure what point I’m trying to make.
Cognac googles: Shawty is working the blue dress.
I had a roommate who needed sex a lot, and would become manic depressive and violent if he had to go more than a week without shonage. The fact that he was very awkward around women meant that he was consistently drawsless, and therefore had to be choked out by yours truly on multiple occasions.
@Legendary Dash,
“choked out” . . . that is an . . .unfortunate. . . choice of words.
Somebody get Legendary Dash an edit stat!
@kamakula,
Now that I look at it, that is a rather unfortunate choice of words. On multiple occasions I had to drop him with a gogoplata.
@Legendary Dash,
LMAO! Thanks for doing the public service! You saved many people.
@Ivy St.,
I copped him a prossy for his birthday once. I did not feel like seeing him in the living room on his laptop watching porn and Sportscenter on his special day. He almost blew that ish too by scaring the hell out of her.
@Legendary Dash,
It sounds like you had quite the psychotic roommate.
@Legendary Dash, wow.
@Legendary Dash,
dam gettin ya roomate a runner *sniff sniff* thats what friends are for and shi huh lol i took my patna lil bruh to the titty bar and got him a lap dance for his b-day.
She ain’t that cute, but if you rocking a J-Lo breast tape dress, cats are going to be looking. We figure if you that bold with the lights on, you must be a mother, with the lights off….
On the cheating tip, it seems like he was just lazy. Like, McNair was one of the cats who hates to say “no” to chicks, and instead would prefer being passive aggressive and sneaky. From several accounts, he was already looking to move on with the chick, but was trying to avoid the big blow up and hassles. So, he kept stringing her along while he scouted for a new prospects. Hell, his wife said he liked to call her on his cell phone in the house to get her to bring him glasses of water.
McNair didn’t want to just man up and drop the chick completely. But he didn’t want to be with her. I guess he figured eventually he’s just delete her from his phone and pretend she didn’t exist, but you can’t do that with young chicks you’ve been boning and tricking on for months. Ain’t gonna happen. He miscalculated…
@Big Man, good points…he just thought she would “lose interest” and move on with her life. Didn’t he meet her family? Talk about going past the point of no return…
@T. Troy Stewart,
he is 36 he been out of tha game for a while he forgot they get pyhco
@BLUNTBLAZER, he was dealing a 3rd World chick and had he picked up a newspaper or read a magazine or something…nevermind, I doubt he would do any science fiction like that.
He thought he could run over to her daddy and dem’s house and blow that same ol’ smoke up their arse they way he’s done in the past.
That might work with Keisha and Tasha and the rest here in America, you don’t try to pull the okey-doke on mofos who throw down a carpet in a certain direction and pray to a superior being five times a day, that’s a whole ‘nother level and they don’t suffer fools lightly.
I wouldn’t be surprised if somebody did one of them “honor” killings that you see on Law & Order all the time
@T. Troy Stewart,
has nothing to do with what you wrote… took a stroll over to your blog. good shyt. Especially Aunt Gladys. U dumb and I loves it.
@T. Troy Stewart, on mofos who throw down a carpet in a certain direction and pray to a superior being five times a day, that’s a whole ‘nother level and they don’t suffer fools lightly.
*overit will not address this comment, asterisk this and move on*
Too much to break down but here is quick snapshot..
could be an Off brand person, most like because of mentality but also because of dress….like “the brawds up in here some bamas, ol dry hating thirsty a** brawds”
Pronoun instead of saying a person’s name, “so me and the bama was talking” etc or, “so the bama pulled up in a 2010 etc”
Adjective to describe a noun, “that bama ass Sh*t….”
My only beefs are that
1) He had 4 boys – give it up dawg you had ya fun time to handle biz be a dad teach them how to be a better man than you was.
2) Had a devoted wife- yea ima ride for tha broad cause she been down since college and prolly put up with hella BS PLUS she became a nurse just so she could help him recover fron all those NFL injuries. She used to give him IV’s a shi I mean she is part of the reason he was the IRonMan on the feild that he was. She wasnt a trophy peice but she earned her keep. She aint in a reality show like eryone else baby moms.
3) Ninja was 36- I dont care if you still in the club after 30 thas sad cause you kno you aint lookin at the cougars (fem 30-40) or the mountian lions(40-up). Ya lookin at the pretty young thangs but ya forgot how crazy them PYT’s are in the head yea u 4get bout those 20-something post teenage games they played ya jus see body dont try ta Blame it on the alcohol stay in ya lane pops u should no better or at least hang out with Jordan he seems like he know which yung chicks to pick.
4) If ya gonna get a new chick get tha best one money could buy I mean ive bagged chicks that look betta than that when I drove a 93 camry with 4-15′s.
bottom line= EPIC FAIL rip but Homie you failed fataly
@BLUNTBLAZER,
Re: #4. People seem to think the women someone else should be with should conform to their own specs on looks and other things. It is one thing to bag hot chicks just to bag hot chicks. Perhaps it was about more than that.
@kamakula,
why did he put her in the bag then if ya gonna fuq up fuq up royally he could tripped and fell on lisa raye’s doorstep lol
@BLUNTBLAZER,
We only say he messed up now because he got taken out. If the man was still alive and boning the chick, perspectives would be different.
There will always be some other woman who is more attractive than the one you’re currently with. I see no point quibbling over whether a chick is a 9 or 9.2.
@BLUNTBLAZER, Cougars are now 30somethings, too? Why can’t we call them bobcats, lynx or any other cat name that Mercury didn’t snag? how about Pumas?
@BLUNTBLAZER,
Mountain Lions? CTFU
That’s some new slang on me…boy I tell ya!
@miss t-lee,
i make up my own shii sumthimes lol
@BLUNTBLAZER,
See you coulda just told me it was some Bay Area slang and I woulda believed it…lol
@miss t-lee,
sad but true I kinda have my own language well only me and my homies understand it. Like this MC Nair jumpoff was a “Funner” not a runner.
@miss t-lee, LMAO, i literally busted out laughing when i read mountain lion at my desk. not a good recession look.
@overit?,
I did the same thing…
I am still trippin off of this situation. No one deserves to have their life ended in that fashion…. But i have to agree with one of the postings i read below… Everyone keeps calling her a jump off, but she was obviously more than that. This female had spent more than a considerable amount of time with this man, and and the assets to prove it. Granted, multi milli’s probably do this type of ish for the fun of it because they can, but if a ninja got me an escalade, and took me on exotic trips, i would probably feel that there was a connection too. The problem is the lying… If he never made her believe she had a future with him. this may have never happened… You know, a man will tell a chick he is not interested, and still want to smash…*crickets*.. WTF, that is definitly leading her on, or at the least sending mixed messages. I feel bad for her family, because I am sure she has brought shame and embarressment to them, I feel bad for the kids, becasue this is how their fathers legacy has ended, and Mrs McNair…. well, lets just say, I’m sure she is mourning all the way to the bank, no need to cry for her..
In ref to The Champ’s post… I have to say I agree with it.. There are many men out there who do not look at the women they have at home (especially after years together) with the lust and desire that they have for the women in the street. This is really unfortunate. GUESS WHAT FELLAS??? WE ARE JUST AS KINKY AND SEXUALLY DIVIENT AS YOU ARE… Give us a chance to fufill some of those voids before assuming what we are and are not capable of.. What we would, and would not like… Try approaching us like strangers in a seasoned relationship, and bring variety into our lives……. DATS ALL IM SAYIN’!
*edit*
Bottom line Steve Mcnair was selfish and lazy. That’s why he cheated. It’s not because he wanted some New New. Not because his wife was getting on his nerves. It’s because he was lazy and selfish. He wanted to do what he wanted to do.
And you all are right it wasn’t about look. If you look at most mistresses of fame they are usually not as pretty as the original.
Monica/Bill
Kwame Kilpatrick/And Wasted Yella ( I forget her name)
But she gave him something he wanted. The ability to not have to work for it. Steve was like…I’m 36, I’m tired, and I don’t give a f*ck anymore. So I’m not going around getting turned down by the chubby overconfident h*es. I’ll let this breezy chase me and I’ll tap that for the time being.
The only thing about McNair he was sloppy with his game.
But again it goes back to lazy and selfish. I don’t want to fight for my marriage and I don’t feel like chasing these chicks. Enter the Angel of Death aka Sahel.
I’m glad I missed most of the posts today, cuz I’m getting mad just reading this.
Black women and they need to co-sign against a man is an epidemic.
Steve McNair (RIP) was killed by a crazy and misguided woman. End of story. Same as Arturo Gatti last weekend (which happened to be his wife btw). All this other stuff is just noise.
@Dorian G., No Dorian, I try not to speak ill of the dead, and I am not here, however he was no Sister Leonella (http://www.nysun.com/foreign/italian-nun-shot-dead-in-somalia/39793/)
There are people out there who are REALLY killed by crazy and misguided folks. Nobody deserves to die, but you play with fire, you might get burned. Or die.
As far as you painting all black women with the same brush…YAWN.
@overit?,
“Nobody deserves to die, but you play with fire, you might get burned. Or die.”
But explain to me how he was playing with fire. Explain to me exactly which of his actions would ordinarily be considered threatening or life endangering. This is a case of people blaming the victim. Its exactly like blaming the pretty girl who wears a short skirt for getting assaulted.
I’m not trying to paint a broad brush here, but I mean at some point it makes you say…hmmm.
@Dorian G., Its exactly like blaming the pretty girl who wears a short skirt for getting assaulted.
I don’t think this analogy works, this man was in a relationship with this woman, she was a part of his life, he invited her in. was she unbalanced? clearly. nobody is blaming the victim here, but he let her in on a lot, she evidently felt entitled to something.
@Dorian G., All this other stuff is just noise.
Can you explain that? Cause to be honest, I’m not really trippin off of McNair in this case, I’m trippin off a few orphans. Kids who don’t know their daddy anymore. And for what?
@overit?,
Its noise plain and simple. A man was gunned down in cold blood. Thats the unfortunate part of the story, thats the moral, thats the sad tale, thats the bottom line.
Due to that kids don’t got they pops, a woman doesn’t have her husband. Everything else is noise.
@Dorian G., do you apply the same rationale to 9/11, the DC sniper, and other seemingly random acts of violence? i agree at the end there is senseless death, but the reasons why they occurred are not just noise. you can’t have your cake and eat it too. i really don’t see how anyone can act like he had NO role in this.
@overit?,
Are you gonna skip over the rape analogy from earlier?
I’m not understanding how this became a referendum on cheating. If he ended up like Magic, then yes we can have this discussion. But to say he had a role in his death is absurdly biased at best, and arrogantly disgusting at worst.
Just getting around to reading this…HARD WORKING IN THE SALT MINE SOME DAYS!!
It seems that every few years CHEATERS get a wake up call when stuff like this happens but they soon forget and go right back to it. Dont these dudes remember Lorena Bobbit? Didnt they see Fatal Attraction? Jeez!! Ok…back to the mine.
@Yaa,
You’re probably more likely to get killed in everyday life than cheating. McNair probably ran the numbers and concluded that the rewards outweighed his risk.
@Yaa,
Imagine a game of russian roulette, only instead of a 1/6 chance of getting shot, it’s 1/1000. The only time we talk about a player making a bad decision is the time it become fatal. Until then, they are king of the world.
The simple Truth, no manner the hood or the amount of Sh*T you got (that’s what it is in the beginning and the end) what’s in your neighbor’s room, neighbor’s apartment, neighbor’s house, garage, neighbor’s driveway, neighbor’s bedroom, even the Champagne room is intriguing and sometimes you cannot resist exploring. It’s our internal desirer to chase that first hit or first experience and the newness of getting to explore, to know something the newness of exploring the beginning of brand new relationship (dysfunctional or otherwise). This is not a Man’s thing in fact Women are just as susceptible. Unfortunately with the ratio of men to women in our community and sisters for very casual s*x the opportunity for men to cheat cheaters continues to increase and is difficult for the most dedicated of us to resist. This not a question of weakness rather one of freakiness and desire for the illusion of the perfect I-ce-S-cream Sunday and your desire to try a different flavor everyday
Who’s chasing who? An enticing women and a Married man = another obstacle for Very Smart Brothas to overcum
I know for a fact that Kazemi is Iranian, my ex had that last name. just saying.
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