I do not believe that a man should put his hands on a woman.
However, there is a notion out there that there is NEVER a reason for a man to place his hands on a woman. I don’t 100 percent agree. Like most things in life, it depends. There are certain behaviors that women can exhibit that can warrant definite a**whippage potential.
So let’s delve.
Panama’s Postulation 2.16: Any irrational behavior a woman exhibits toward her man is done under the assumption that her man will not hit her under any circumstances.
This is a terrible assumption to live under. When arguments and loud-talk come into play, people move from the realm of logic into the realm of the irrational. Irrational people don’t think rationally. The more buttons you push, the less rational an individual becomes, regardless of gender. It becomes even less of a rational situation when actual physical contact of any sort is made. At that point, we’ve devolved into the realm of pure and utter mind chaos.
I’m not doing this to excuse any man from ever putting his hands on a woman in a negative way. I’m doing this to make sure that you don’t have to bail out the idiot you helped put into jail tomorrow. Or on Monday if you all decide to act dumb on weekend night.
Women, let’s examine some things that you should never do. Rather, things that if you were to do them to me, I’d consider whipping your a**.
1. Pull a knife.
Yes, oh yes. If you want to see how good a man’s jab is, pull a knife on him. At knife pullage, you have moved from the realm of chick I know into bastard who is threatening my life. If you even THINK about putting that knife down before the cops come…you just might get Iked. And oh yes…yes the cops are coming because if I manage to get a good lick in, I’m knocking the knife out of your hands and commencing to treat you like the man you wanted to emulate. And will do so until the cops come knockin’.
You see, I live under this little assumption:
Panama’s Postulation 7.08.009: If somebody pulls a weapon on you, always assume they are going to use it.
Which segues into this one…
2. Pull a gun.
Extreme circumstances I know. But this needs no explanation. If you decide to pull a gun, and then decide not to use it, you’ve decided for me that you are going to be beat to a living pulp and that you are interested in having your name etched out in the laurels of Black History.
Those were two extremes, but let’s move into the more common circumstances.
3) Hitting in the face with a closed fist
Do it and, well, you might have to die. Honestly, I don’t understand where the idea that hitting a man is okay comes from anyway. Hitting, under this premise, implies manly a** behavior. Especially, when you all decide to do it repeatedly. Every hit reduces his common sense by one percentage point. At about 49 percent, homeboy might snap. I suggest you take this into consideration next time you decide to lay some mollywoppage on a man and count your “blessings.”
You know, I think there’s another assumption at play here too. For some reason, I believe a lot of women think that it doesn’t take much to restrain oneself. Maybe its because women often times do not restrain themselves and just let us have all their emotions when pissed. Controlled pissedoffedness is not easy. It doesn’t take much to make a man snap after he’s begun the process of de-rationalization.
watch joe the king online And sometimes…just SOMETIMES, us men understand. Which is why we put up with a lot of it. Hell, many times its our fault. He cheated, he knows this. You hit him, or slap him, he might just try to shake the sh*t out of you and restrain you.
Only in those circumstances are you somewhat in the clear. In all other circumstances, you are not. I repeat you are not. All this manly behavior is a sure fire way to become black history.
Once again, I don’t think a man should hit a woman, unless she decides that she wants to test her gangsta by testing his gangsta and get all manly on him. On rare occasions however, the line isn’t so cut and dry.
So, good compadres of VSB, am I offbase? Is there no reason for a man to EVER put his hands on a woman? Or are there certain circumstances where it’s warranted?
Solve the riddle.
-VSB P aka THE ARSONIST aka TANGLE JIG P aka GIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRL, HE A 3
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No, there’s no reason for a man to EVER put his hands on a woman.
No, there’s no reason for a woman to EVER put her hands on a man.
end of story.
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maximillian {July 9th, 2009 at 12:15 am}
@Liz,
I thought that was one of the lessons little people in Kindergarten learn, up there with not eating the play-doh.
Then again, kids eat play-doh all the time, so…
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The BDay GEM {July 9th, 2009 at 9:24 am}
@Liz,
i completely agree.
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Peysonic Temple {July 9th, 2009 at 9:36 am}
@Liz, I disagree. there’s alot of reasons for both to occur.
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Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 9:44 am}
@Liz, yeah, see i disagree with this in principle. as the great chris rock said: there’s a reason to kick an old man down a flight of stairs just don’t do it.
there’s a reason to do lots of stuff. you just shouldn’t do it.
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K to the... {July 9th, 2009 at 10:09 am}
@Panama Jackson,
there’s a reason to do lots of stuff. you just shouldn’t do it.
True dat!
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Omar {July 9th, 2009 at 10:48 am}
@Liz,
“No, there’s no reason for a man to EVER put his hands on a woman.
No, there’s no reason for a woman to EVER put her hands on a man.”
This is true but the problem is people do things they aren’t supposed based on the consequences it is and it is important for women to grasp how dangerous it is to cross certain lines with a man.
Technically nobody is supposed to hit anybody men or women but people test you…
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ok, this is touchy…but touch I shall…
I don’t think that a man should hit a woman…BUT I do feel that women abuse this concept! I know women that purposely push theur men to see if he will hit them. For what? If he doesn’t, you will think he’s “soft” and if he does you’re all hollering for the badges! C’mon hoodrats, just say no!
For example: if I’m washing dishes and you come in and mollywop me cuz I’m using Joy instead of Palmolive…you’re gon be “holding pockets” at the local jail! but let’s say…I’m washing dishes at 2am (cuz your punk arse ain’t home yet), we get into a heated argument (cuz u smell like a salmon poptart) and I proceed to knock the h3ll out of you with a skillet! once you regain consciousness, it’s irrational for me to believe that there isn’t at least a slight chance that I will be losing some teeth very soon!
AGAIN NOT SAYING IT’S OK!
I was rasised to KNOW that if you’re big enough to pass a lick, you’re big enough to take one..
I personally, don’t worry about a man hitting me, because I am not about to hit a man…now, I ain’t no punk, so if he starts it, I’m gon d@mn sho (try to) finish it!
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overit {July 9th, 2009 at 12:51 am}
@GOODENess, i hear you, i’m obviously of the opinion that it should never even be an issue, but I vividly remember a woman doing that to her man “go ‘head HIT ME! you scared? you aint SH**”
shoot, i braced for the impact before ish even happened.
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Selah {July 9th, 2009 at 1:56 am}
@GOODENess,
“I personally, don’t worry about a man hitting me, because I am not about to hit a man” … i cosign that
BUT…. if a man starts some ish i’m not gon try and finish it.. ima try and run as fast and as far away as I can, scream as loud as I can… get some help or something. I guess that makes me a punk…. but me no likey violence directed towards me, and I know im not gonna win that fight.. LOL.
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 9:15 am}
@Selah,
Yeah, regardless of who hit who first, I never understood the mindset of women who will stand and have a “fair” fight with a man. Either pick up a brick or run like hell!
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Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 9:46 am}
@Me fail english?, i’ve always been perplexed by this as well. even a slight man generally has some strength about him.
thing is, i’ve also never understood relationships where the couple actually ACTIVELY fought in the first place.
that’s like a Drake video. makes no sense.
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BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 12:05 pm}
@Panama Jackson,
I hada chick tell me “well we are a couple so we gonna have to fight sooner or later” bish got dropped tha nex day
treble {July 14th, 2009 at 2:53 pm}
@Panama Jackson,
yep, and like a Drake video, it can still be entertaining to watch…on youtube!
ChiChi {July 9th, 2009 at 11:30 am}
@Me fail english?, I feel you. If you come for me, I will do any and everything to f*ck you up…that’s most likely not gonna be done by my hands alone.
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Chas {July 9th, 2009 at 8:45 am}
@GOODENess,
*dead* @ salmon poptart
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Lady Chi {July 9th, 2009 at 9:50 pm}
@GOODENess,
You hit it on the head..hood rats. They come in all races and economic backgrounds.
1,
LC
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Juce {August 7th, 2009 at 12:29 pm}
@GOODENess,
“but let’s say…I’m washing dishes at 2am (cuz your punk arse ain’t home yet), we get into a heated argument (cuz u smell like a salmon poptart) and I proceed to knock the h3ll out of you with a skillet! once you regain consciousness, it’s irrational for me to believe that there isn’t at least a slight chance that I will be losing some teeth very soon!
AGAIN NOT SAYING IT’S OK!
I was raised to KNOW that if you’re big enough to pass a lick, you’re big enough to take one..
I personally, don’t worry about a man hitting me, because I am not about to hit a man…now, I ain’t no punk, so if he starts it, I’m gon d@mn sho (try to) finish it!”
& to add my personal favorite: what I can’t manage, Imma damage!
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As for the question at hand:
Blunt instruments, up to and including baseball bats, frying pans, irons, golf clubs, etc. And it would be wise not to turn your back…
I had one buddy who had to leave home cause his wife threatened to cut jimmy off with a circular saw, so I guess household tools too.
I’m kinda torn on destruction of personal property though. Court can be enough for that. I think.
Other that that, just leave.
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miss t-lee {July 9th, 2009 at 8:36 am}
@maximillian,
“I had one buddy who had to leave home cause his wife threatened to cut jimmy off with a circular saw”
Huh what, say what? Dayum.
*puzzled look*
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Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 9:47 am}
@maximillian, i’m a FERVENT believer that you should not mess with anybody’s personal property.
if i suspect that you keyed my car, well, i can only wish death upon you.
however, if i SEE you keying my car, i’m going full linebacker on your ass for the world to see. and just b/c i’m an ass like that, i might throw a pebble at you first…just to let you know i’m coming.
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Intellectual Hedonist {July 9th, 2009 at 11:29 am}
@Panama Jackson, picturing you throwing a pebble tickled me so **giggling**
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BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 12:07 pm}
@Panama Jackson,
yea bruh bruh guys love our cars i mopped this chicks uncle up in the middle of the street for keyin my car. and nobody said shi or tried ta stop it cause they understood.
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Legendary Dash {July 9th, 2009 at 12:01 pm}
@maximillian,
Personal property is a touchy subject. I once saw a guy get pretty much everything he owned burned up while the neighbors and cops watched. The anguish on his face when he returned home to see all of his clothes, records, floor model television, and personal effects smoldering in the Alabama Summer sun was heartbreaking, even for a 4 year old Dash.
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miss t-lee {July 9th, 2009 at 12:06 pm}
@Legendary Dash,
About 6 months ago I got woke up out of a dead sleep no less, at about 2:30 am by my neighbors fighting.
She was throwing his clothes, shoes and cd’s into the pool. All I know is I saw him run up on her and push her. She hit him back and they went to boxing in the middle of the parking lot.
I called 911, reported it and went back to sleep.
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BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 12:09 pm}
@miss t-lee,
like any good neighborly ninja would do.
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miss t-lee {July 9th, 2009 at 1:15 pm}
@BLUNTBLAZER,
You shol’ right…I’m not getting involved in domestic disputes.
What I look like ending up taking a dirt nap because I’m trying to be a hero?
Not. the. kid.
Legendary Dash {July 9th, 2009 at 12:43 pm}
@miss t-lee,
Why do women always go for a man’s property? A former roommates girlfriend would trash his room after every argument, and have to replace his broken stuff every time. He and I put my broken XBox in his room right before I knew an argument was going to break out so she would think that she broke it, and get me another one. Yes I know that my actions were messed up in this situation, but NCAA was about to come out.
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miss t-lee {July 9th, 2009 at 1:12 pm}
@Legendary Dash,
Let me rephrase that for you…why do SOME women always go for a man’s property?
I’m not sure…I don’t mess with people’s stuff. I guess some girl’s figure if they can’t put their hands on you, they’ll eff up something that you love and that will hurt you as bad as they are hurting.
IDK– it ain’t never been THAT serious.
*good look on making her replace your already broken xbox…lol
Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 2:15 pm}
@Legendary Dash,
This was clever and funny, so it’s all good.
Talk as much sh*t about me that you want, but I’m agreeing with Panama on this one.
I have 2 little brothers. One of them had a female friend that kept punching him, to test his boundaries. She’s a big chick. He held restraint and didn’t hit her, but I wish he would have.
If you’re trying to fight someone, then expect to get your arse beat.
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Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 9:48 am}
@chaoticdiva, i wont talk shhhhhhhhhhh…mostly cuz you agree with me.
that makes you smart, and right.
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Ivy St. {July 9th, 2009 at 10:45 am}
@chaoticdiva,
Your brother should move on! Violent people tend to always be violent. One day she will take him to his breaking point. And then what? He’s going to be in a jail for something he could have easily prevented.
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Intellectual Hedonist {July 9th, 2009 at 11:36 am}
@Ivy St., I once saw a girl hit my older brother (I have three brothers) and he did not hit her back, I was so proud of him. I then approached both of them and told him I was proud of him not retaliating, but then I turned to her and said “If I ever see you do that to him again or hear of it I will mop this street with your face, think Im playing? Test me?”
She never spoke to me again, I wonder why?
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BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 12:11 pm}
@Intellectual Hedonist,
she thas how ya do it hire a jenny henchwoman
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Ivy St. {July 9th, 2009 at 12:15 pm}
@Intellectual Hedonist,
lol!
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 1:02 pm}
@Intellectual Hedonist,
You’re lucky she was a punk. She shoulda popped off on you next.
Talking shet about what you’re gonna do is grounds for an ass-whupping then and there.
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Intellectual Hedonist {July 9th, 2009 at 2:22 pm}
@Me fail english?, I ain going to lie, I think I have been in 3 fights in my entire life. I dont talk about ish if I cant and wont do it. Just ask the chick who’s parents were going to press charges against me cause I beat her arse till her brothers had to pull me off her (and I was wearing roller skates at the time).
If I loose it enough to fight I really go at it.
So yeah she could have flexed if she wanted, but I meant what I said.
Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 2:37 pm}
@IH,
lol@ fighting in roller skates. Ok, SHE was the lucky one!
N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall.... {July 9th, 2009 at 2:44 pm}
@IH
not roller skates? lol. you could’ve done some serious damage with htose skates. i know, i threw a skate at this boy who put his hand up my skirt while i was turning the double dutch rope. it was like BBJ strategically placed my friends rollerskate in close proximity so i would have time to drop the ropes, pick up the skate, and lay that little ninja out.
Just. Walk. Away. (Or restrain them in the knife/gun scenario.)
Before knives and guns and closed fist punches come, there’s usually a sign or 1,000 that things aren’t stable (applies to guys and girls). Violent reactions (throwing, kicking, spitting on things) to bad news, “joking” about burning shyt down, killing people, etc., and physically attacking “punk” ex’s are no longer funny in my book (hard lesson learned). Just bounce as soon as you can. Life’s too short, and healthy relationships or being alone are so much better than this shyt above. Plus, if you think restraining anger is hard, restraining physical force when pissed ain’t gonna be no easier. And you’ll always come across as a punk, whether the woman “deserved it” or not.
PS — “until the cops come knockin’” is a song I never liked ’cause this is the image I get whenever I hear it.
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overit {July 9th, 2009 at 12:54 am}
@An Island, this is why I like you
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An Island {July 9th, 2009 at 1:08 am}
@overit
Thanks, I appreciate the love.
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Legendary Dash {July 9th, 2009 at 1:21 am}
@An Island,
Walking away is not always easy. I have had a couple of instances where I would have been justified with pulling an Ike. I once was almost the victim of an Al Green-Steve McNair combo(Is it too soon). A jumpoff lobbed hot grits and maple syrup at me while I was sleep. If not for mom dukes coming to me in my sleep, and telling me to wake up, I would have been disfigured for life. I was incensed, and it took all of my home training to not introduce my five fingers to her face. Or at the very least shake her like a yoohoo.
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Selah {July 9th, 2009 at 1:47 am}
@Legendary Dash, but are you saying that grits-lobbing jumpoff didn’t show any signs of her craziness beforehand??
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Legendary Dash {July 9th, 2009 at 1:57 am}
@Selah,
I really did not take the time to get to know her like that. After the initial convo, our communication only came through text messaging. Those texts were generally sent during the cutting hours.
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Selah {July 9th, 2009 at 2:04 am}
@Legendary Dash,
well darn. I guess its kinda hard to tell who’s a nut when you’re only tryna get one, and not tryna get to know the person. LOL
Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 9:18 am}
@Legendary Dash,
LESSON: Never fall asleep around someone you dont know. It’s why I dont take naps on the train ride home.
The BDay GEM {July 9th, 2009 at 9:30 am}
@Legendary Dash,
i co-sign me fail.
anytime you are effing around with some one you don’t know, be prepared to meet the REAL (insane) them at some point.
miss t-lee {July 9th, 2009 at 9:44 am}
@ Me fail english? ,
LESSON: Never fall asleep around someone you dont know. It’s why I dont take naps on the train ride home.
Okay?!?!
An Island {July 9th, 2009 at 10:28 am}
@Legendary Dash
“I really did not take the time to get to know her like that. After the initial convo, our communication only came through text messaging. Those texts were generally sent during the cutting hours.”
And THAT was your sign. 99% of the women who do that little introduction pron shyt we always dream about are bat shyt crazy. The other 1% are much older women who are jaded enough and desperate enough to have at it like that. If it’s too good to be true . . .
And DAMN on your mama having to be there while you learned that lesson. I hope there was at least a sex swing and a twin sister involved earlier that night to make the aftermath worth it.
shay_d_lady {July 9th, 2009 at 2:12 am}
@Legendary Dash, yeah its not easy….but it aint impossible.. I mean if we are talking about young uns.. thats one t hing but as an adult? at 30 1. if you still dealin with this type of up and down drama you need to reevaluate some shyt and two
you should have a little more control over yourself and your emotions…both men and women
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shay_d_lady {July 9th, 2009 at 2:15 am}
@shay_d_lady, I wanna make it clear that I too am a hot head…so I understand how hard it is……..but at some point you have to have at least some control…I can understand if someone just walks up and fi’ed on you out the blue but really, how often does that happen?
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 9:19 am}
@shay_d_lady,
I agree. No offense to Dash, but I’m sure some of his female friends/sisters coulda told him this chick was a nut. He probably didnt see the signs cuz he was blinded by the wet stuff.
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miss t-lee {July 9th, 2009 at 8:39 am}
@Legendary Dash,
Oh wow@ this whole story.
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N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall.... {July 9th, 2009 at 9:34 am}
@Legendary Dash,
did mom dukes also tell you to keep your d1ck in your pants and stop phucking around with crazy chicks, and falling asleep in their house?
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Legendary Dash {July 9th, 2009 at 9:39 am}
@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….,
It was my house, and my grits. I thought she had let herself out. My mother was very disappointed,and after she had to ride six plus hours to visit me in the hospital she let me have it. Even though I dodged most of it, I still received burns to the abdomen and right hand.
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N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall.... {July 9th, 2009 at 9:46 am}
@Legendary Dash,
wow, your house and your grits? ok, JO rule #1, never allow the JO to let themselves out…show them the door, then lock and double bolt it behind them.
Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 10:02 am}
@Legendary Dash,
That really sucks. What exactly precipitated this incident? Feel free not to answer that.
Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 9:50 am}
@Legendary Dash, naw son…any chick tossing grits, which is literally intended to maim the living f*ck out deserves some mollywoppage.
third degree burns is something worth kicking arse for.
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Legendary Dash {July 9th, 2009 at 10:13 am}
@ Me fail english?
I have my theories as to what precipitated the incident. She acknowledged later on that she suffers from depression. She was a New Orleanian, it was a year after Katrina, and dealing with her family losing everything and getting settled in Atlanta, her last relationship did not end well, and she was a pharmacy major, which is a very difficult major. The stress of all those things caused her to have a bit of a breakdown, and I just happened to be the person who she took it out on. If I had actually had conversations with her prior to her trying to take me out of the game, I would have known these things, and pumped my brakes, but still smashed.
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An Island {July 9th, 2009 at 10:34 am}
@Legendary Dash
That’s all well and good, but you’re conveniently skipping the part where you did something big or small to trigger it. I doubt you said, “I love you” and she got up and walked straight to the stove. Either way, it doesn’t really matter. Did it become a criminal issue? I’d think the hospital stay would force something to be reported.
Legendary Dash {July 9th, 2009 at 1:35 pm}
@Me fail english? ,
Staycation and frenemy have made it into the dictionary. I think there is room for felationship.
Legendary Dash {July 9th, 2009 at 10:44 am}
@ An Island,
I really don’t know what was the trigger. Other than possibly the high level nonchalance I showed throughout our brief felationship. I was working on “Pretty Women Rules”, no kissing, no attempts at intimacy etc. It was wham bam…deuces. The police were eventually involved, but she did not jail time. She spent sometime in a pych ward.
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 11:58 am}
@Legendary Dash,
“felationship”
LMAO! but it’s this irreverence that may have ended with “breakfast in bed”
Ivy St. {July 9th, 2009 at 10:46 am}
@An Island,
“Before knives and guns and closed fist punches come, there’s usually a sign.”
This is true. I feel like if you are in a relationship, you feel these things won’t be turned towards you because this person is suppose to care about you.
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An Island {July 9th, 2009 at 12:40 pm}
@Ivy St.
What the movies don’t tell you is that eventually you get wrapped up in every great moment and every disappointment of that person. And that the person you see every day is the easiest and most common target. Hard lesson to learn if you don’t have parents or friends willing to give you the heads up (though we’d all make the same mistakes anyway).
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BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 12:15 pm}
@An Island,
so true they are signs ya jus gotta open ya minds.
I was puttin some bags in my ex’s trunk then i saw the strap. I was like dayum this chick is gangsta. Lemme let her down easy.
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Ooooo! This is a good one!
Co-sign Goody’s whole statement above. I definitely feel very very strongly about men hitting women. It is a no-no and shouldn’t be done… but… I do personally know a couple women who have done their best to get their a$$es whooped by their men by hitting them, screaming at them like dayum banshees when they get upset, throwing things at them, all types of disrespectful shyt. Now, both of my friends who practice this behavior are married and their husbands have done shyt that required some kind of consequence. Don’t ask me what that consequence should be cuz ionno – I haven’t personally been through some of the shyt these particular girlfriends of mine have been through w/ their men, but getting physical is just asking for somebody to go to jail or worse. Matter of fact, I just found out that a cousin of mine got punched in the face for hitting a dude in the head w/ a large glass bottle of hot sauce… effed up right? But she’s crazy and was waaay waaay way outta line for hitting him. Sometimes when u hit people their instincts kick in. And some women do take kindness for weakness…
But I do have to reiterate that I’m totally against men hitting women. I also have to add that this isn’t an excuse for men to think they can do what they want and be a$$holes either (which has pretty much been the history of male/female relationships since forever). I have learned something monumental during the course of my own relationship. Men don’t know how to communicate effectively. USE YOUR WORDS COTDA*N IT! If we’re having a conversation and I’m getting on your last nerve – SAY THAT! Don’t just shut down and become a wall – walls are meant to be broken down, or surmounted – not avoided! That shyt is infuriating. Shyt! Just say you need some time to process or something. If that’s too hard say, ” You’re getting on my nerves and I need a minute!” Something! Women talk too much and men don’t know how to talk. The story of men and women summed up.
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overit {July 9th, 2009 at 12:56 am}
@pgh muse, men are just as sensitive as women, if not more.
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pgh muse {July 9th, 2009 at 1:05 am}
@overit, I agree wholeheartedly. It’s just a shame that they don’t know how to say it.
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T. Troy Stewart {July 9th, 2009 at 7:58 am}
@pgh muse, hell yes I’m sensitive…those slaps hurt!
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Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 9:52 am}
@overit, sensitive thug here..
sometimes, ya know, we just all need hugs.
JAY LINE!!!
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Cheekie {July 9th, 2009 at 10:34 am}
@overit,
“men are just as sensitive as women, if not more.”
For real. Some men be channeling The Cowardly Lion when Dorothy slapped the heck outta him. Talm ’bout, “Why didya have to go and hit me, I didn’t bite him!”
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BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 12:17 pm}
@Cheekie,
neva been slapped b4 and im 28 must be doin somthin right lol
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OrangeStar616 {July 9th, 2009 at 1:17 pm}
@overit, I think more so. Men are very very very senstive, when they care about a woman esp to our words………..our words carry alot more weight than most men let on, but if you pay attention it ain’t hard to tell……….
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Never acceptable. Except perhaps in this instance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwgSitUnm5Y
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An Island {July 9th, 2009 at 8:46 am}
@Brandon St. Randy
That scene from In Bruges might make more sense in english.
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Brandon St. Randy {July 9th, 2009 at 9:24 am}
@An Island, It might, but I don’t feel like tying to find it in English. Punches to the face are universal
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I don’t think a man should raise his hands to a woman….
HOWEVER…
I was also taught to treat others the way that I want to be treated. Therefore if I am coming at you and beating up on you well then I am pretty much leaving the door open for you to bust me up. If I am big and bad enough to start some foolishness then I should be big and bad enough to deal with the consequences.
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Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 9:53 am}
@Bajan Girl, i got an aunty that used to tell my cousins…
act like a man, get treated like a man.
i think that works in 12 countries plus Romania.
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N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall.... {July 9th, 2009 at 10:02 am}
@Panama Jackson,
your auntie was right. problem is that many men don’t know what it means to act like a man. they assign the wrong types of behavior to acting like a man (lying, cheating, disrespect, hyper-sexuality, irresponsibility, i could go on….) and then wonder why women and other men don’t respect them…
those men are usually the ones who say things like “i’m a grown azz man.” to that, i say, if you conduct yourself like a grown azz man, then you wouldn’t have to tell anybody…they will see it in you.
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I think that one party needs to know when to walk away and cool down. If neither party knows then they share responsibility. Person A is wrong for pushing and Person B is wrong for sticking around when they know their buttons are being tap danced on. Kevin Hart said something in his I’m a Grown Little Man stand-up ( hilarious if you haven’t seen it) that kind of sums up what I think this post is trying to express. Don’t be surprised if the dude gives you what asking for. Some people just enjoy drama. You can count me out unless they label it reality tv and put it on bravo.
In the event that a beating just comes out of left field, you’re (whatever the gender) dead wrong and deserve whatever comes your way. Pac said it best ” I ain’t a killer but don’t push me”. And while I still don’t think I would be a killer I may be a Laila Ali or Jazmine Sullivan.
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shay_d_lady {July 9th, 2009 at 1:41 am}
@Nola Darling, I co sign both your post especially the that “im a grown little man” is hilarious statement…
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Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 9:54 am}
@Nola Darling, Jazmine Sullivan would have gotten mollywopped too…
hell, i wrote a whole post on it called Jazmine Sullivan Might Get You Dead.
i’m too lazy to link to it.
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This is one of those touchy subjects but I do agree with you! I think that nobody has the right to hit. I was taught that it doesnt matter male or female if someone hits you then you have a right to hit their a$$ back. I am not sure where the idea of a woman can hit and man and he shouldnt hit her back came from. I have children & I teach them, including my son, NOT to pick fights or bother people BUT if somebody puts their hands on you to beat them down so they know not to do that sh*t again LOL. Well not that extreme but I do teach them that they have the right to defend themselves once someone lays hands on them.
My issue is that in most cases a man’s aggression can be different than a woman’s. I might be wrong but what I’ve seen is that although women are quite emotional and some of us can be extreme with ours men seem to get to a point where they cant shut down that aggression. AGAIN..maybe I am wrong. Not to mention that physically most men have the advantage over women. So my hit (for example) might not have the same impact as your hit. I think this is why most people think it is wrong for a man to put his hands on a woman because he is more likely to seriously hurt her.
But again….I just think that everybody should just keep their damn hands to themselves.
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Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 9:59 am}
@Yaa, but what I’ve seen is that although women are quite emotional and some of us can be extreme with ours men seem to get to a point where they cant shut down that aggression.
so you think women can? i actually think that once women realize that you’re not going to do anything, they ramp up their aggression. many times, and i’ve been a party to this type of stuff, it seems that women know initially that they are getting close to stepping over the line but won’t stop. then comes the “f*ck yo mama” doppelganger line that technically SHOULD be the point where he’s either going to choke you out or just leave…if he stays there standing and taking it…like iv’e done, then the verbal assaults go into hyperdrive.
now, the reason this gets problematic is bc, it’s called “snapping” for a reason. it comes out of nowhere. you may THINK that dude’s just taking it on the chin and being a p*ssy but in his mind he’s trying to plan out his defense in court.
sadly, that has been me.
i didnt have to go to court but that’s also b/c i was tackled by two people and my father and forced to go sit down in a dark room where i was shaking like i had the heebeejeebees.
my point is…i dont think women can just turn the aggression off either. and if you all can, then you all don’t until you either have to (beat down) or he leaves.
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 10:06 am}
@Panama Jackson,
LOL. I agree. I dont know the rhyme or reason…or a song to sing *wink*. All I know is some ppl snap, others dont. Im pretty silly and friendly in real life. I also have a long fuse. But in the event that I am taken “there” I will quickly blackout. Literally and figuratively. There will be blood. Haha j/k…maybe.
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pgh muse {July 9th, 2009 at 10:26 am}
@Me fail english?, lmao. I’m the same way. I try really really really hard at being patient and slow to anger cause in my life it’s just VERY necessary. It’s been a looooong time that I’ve even considered violence – but I can and will go there if I have to. And I’m not playing when I do.
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 11:15 am}
@pgh muse,
Word. But you know what I find. In the wrong environment, this can really work to your detriment. I moved around alot as a kid. Aside from constantly being the new kid, I have a funny accent, developed early and apparently look like I have a stank attitude.
I think the fact that I tried to AVOID violence is partially to blame for the constant snuffings! lol!
Yaa {July 9th, 2009 at 10:35 am}
@Panama Jackson, I have never really dealt with a crazy dude or been in a situation like that. I hate to even argue to be quite honest. I guess when I have seen a man snap it just has a different energy than when a woman snaps. I am in no way saying that women dont loose it LOL.
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 10:40 am}
@Yaa,
I understand exactly what you mean. Its hard to put into words, but seeing a woman snap can scare the sh1t outta you. Seeing a man snap can put the fear of God into you!
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pgh muse {July 9th, 2009 at 11:02 am}
@Me fail english?, This is SOOO true. So so so so so so so so true!
Ivy St. {July 9th, 2009 at 10:49 am}
@Yaa,
“I have children & I teach them, including my son, NOT to pick fights or bother people BUT if somebody puts their hands on you to beat them down so they know not to do that sh*t again”
While, I don’t think this message is wrong, I think this is the start of people thinking it is ok to hit someone starts. I understand no one wants their kids to be pushed around. At some point this rule has to come to an end. As a grown adult, it is never ok to hit someone.
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Yaa {July 9th, 2009 at 12:06 pm}
@Ivy St., You didnt read the next line did ya?? . I am NOT one of those Mamas.
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Ivy St. {July 9th, 2009 at 12:18 pm}
@Yaa, “BUT if somebody puts their hands on you to beat them down so they know not to do that sh*t again”
This implies that you are. You aren’t suggesting the tell a responsible adult, but to take matters into their own hands.
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BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 12:24 pm}
@Ivy St.,
shiiii as a grown adult ya betta hope all i do is hit ya people be goin in the trunk way to often nowadays. I respect a good old fashioned fist fight.
Yaa {July 9th, 2009 at 3:16 pm}
@Ivy St., uhmmm OK.
Yaa {July 9th, 2009 at 3:28 pm}
@Ivy St., You must work for the Fox Network!!
Here is my ENTIRE opinion…….
I have children & I teach them, including my son, NOT to pick fights or bother people BUT if somebody puts their hands on you to beat them down so they know not to do that sh*t again LOL. Well not that extreme but I do teach them that they have the right to defend themselves once someone lays hands on them.
BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 12:22 pm}
@Yaa,
I have a 5 yr old boy and I told him neva hit a girl cause there is nothing to gain by it. Whata you wanna have a rep for Ike’n chicks. But if a boy hits him first I say ya betta let him have it. In preschool he got in 6 fights in one year Im like dam i didnt have my first fight until 2nd grade.
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 12:32 pm}
@BLUNTBLAZER,
LOL. This reminds me of the time my grandpa was whuppin arse in the nursing home. He claims some other dude stole his sweater. He has Alzheimer’s. The sweater didnt exist.
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BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 1:37 pm}
@Me fail english?,
interesting neva seen old dudes fight……………with fists lol
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 2:59 pm}
@BLUNTBLAZER,
Bo (my grandfather) is like the Joe Jackson of my family. He STILL looks mean as hell too.
I didnt see the fight but the orderlies were having a good old time retelling the story, pound for pound. Apparently Bo threw a few good combos.
Yaa {July 9th, 2009 at 3:21 pm}
@BLUNTBLAZER, My children (even my 20 year old!!) have NEVER had a fight LOL. I teach them to avoid situations & to be good people. So IF IF IF somebody does do something to them that they know that they have the right to defend themselves. If that makes sense?? I teach them all types of conflict resolution before it gets to the point where they have to defend themselves. Yet…I do teach them that if someone puts their hands on them YES you better defend yourself. Turning the cheek only gets you TWO black eyes!
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I was banned from playing with playdough. It was just too salty and good for me to resist!!
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 9:22 am}
@Yaa,
*dead*
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BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 12:25 pm}
@Yaa,
so you moved on to swallowin other salty stuff thats too good for you to resist huh?lol
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Yaa {July 9th, 2009 at 3:24 pm}
@BLUNTBLAZER, Ewwwwwwww !! If its salty….it needs a doctors appointment & some type of ‘cillin.
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BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 4:46 pm}
@Yaa,
wha r you talkin bout lol i was talkin bout paste lol
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Cheekie {July 9th, 2009 at 12:26 pm}
@Yaa,
Playdough will give ya high blood pressure.
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Im agreeing with P Jack on this one.
Ive seen both sides of this coin an neither is ok. If dude is doing things to make you WANT to swing…. you may need to consider why you havent left yet. But those hef..I mean questionable women who like to push buttons and get on a guy just to do it…..need to get knocked down.
My big brother taught me well….
Now if you are a guy dealing with a girl like this…..I hope you would try not to swing back. Just remember your sisters, cousins, etc. will be more than happy to get your back.
Word.
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shay_d_lady {July 9th, 2009 at 2:08 am}
@An Uninspired Muse, Now if you are a guy dealing with a girl like this
umm I will give you one time … but if she put her hands on you once..just like a woman you need to leave cause if you know she is the type to push buttons and “make you” put your hands on her? theres something going on with you as well if you continue to stay and fight…..
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I definitely agree that if you throw a punch you should expect one in return…
I am a hot head and have gotten mad enough to throw a punch a time or two…and it wasnt because I didnt think he was going to hit back it was because i was mad and didnt give a f!ck…..
but two wrongs dont make a right and as I have grown up I realize that I need to be smart enough to recognize that my anger is a weakness and to remove myself from situations that could result in assault charges..and to leave a situation when it starts to turn sour. Some fights you only end up losing if you win.
At the end of the day If I make the right decisions before losing control.. I maintain control ( that anger management at work!) …LMAO and remember when the cops come knockin BOTH of you are going to Jail (at least here in Tennessee)so who really wins?
also
I think we asking the wrong question….
what the hell did you do to make a sane chick pull a knife or gun on you? I mean unless you like crazy violent chicks at which point you need to take the blame for that shyt…
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N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall.... {July 9th, 2009 at 8:34 am}
@shay_d_lady,
I think we asking the wrong question….
what the hell did you do to make a sane chick pull a knife or gun on you? I mean unless you like crazy violent chicks at which point you need to take the blame for that shyt…
THANK YOU!! i had to get to comment 13 before i finally saw someone state the obvious…i’ll expound on this later….
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Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 10:02 am}
@shay_d_lady, i’ve witnessed a chick that i thought was totally levelheaded pull a knife on somebody before, and to me it came out of nowhere.
you know what he did? he called her a “b*tch”. now i can see a verbal lashing but a knife?
sometimes ya just never know.
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N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall.... {July 9th, 2009 at 10:06 am}
@Panama Jackson,
he called her a b1tch, and you think a verbal lashing would’ve been more appropriate? obviously you’re not a woman who’s ever been called a b1tch. curious, did he just call her that out of the blue?
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pgh muse {July 9th, 2009 at 10:29 am}
@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….,
Right. B*tch would slide of my back like water but for some that’s the female equivalent of the N word. Some folks get to fighting over certain words.
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N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall.... {July 9th, 2009 at 11:06 am}
@pgh muse,
b*tch is that thing that would make me want to hit anybody. and men say things like that knowing they are getting under a woman’s skin and being incredibly disrespectful, degrading, and sexist…and they usually have support b/c most people act like b*tch is a term of endearment…it’s not. at least not for me.
miss t-lee {July 9th, 2009 at 11:13 am}
@pgh muse,
Yeah…the b word is not gonna get me angry. Not even fat b-word. I had a dude call me that one time and I told him “that sh*t ain’t even original. try again.”
*giggling*
Now…talking about my Mom (RIP) would probably be the thing that would get me heated.
shay_d_lady {July 9th, 2009 at 12:47 pm}
@pgh muse, @panama jackson you know what he did? he called her a “b*tch”. now i can see a verbal lashing but a knife?
sometimes ya just never know.
some words are triggers for some people and not for others.. the bottom line is you cant tell a person how mad to get so….yeah I think it was an overrreaction but he was still baiting her, how do we know she hadnt told him that her mom called her that every day of her life or something and she hated that word…..and he knew calling her that would send her off? and then he called her that in front of you? embarrasing her and shyt…there are a lot of things at play with this one….so while her reaction was extreme its yet another situation that could a been avoided and did not give him any license to hit her….IMHO
Sula {July 9th, 2009 at 11:42 am}
@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….,
I am sorry. Being called a b!tch does not warrant someone pulling out a knife… Actually nothing warrants someone pulling out a knife unless they are fearing for their lives in the middle of Cabo!!!!
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N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall.... {July 9th, 2009 at 12:05 pm}
@Sula,
i agree, which is why i said it would make me want to hit someone…not that i would, but i would think about it. what i’m really getting at is that men do and say things to women, and expect women to be intimidated enough to not say or do anything back.
as for the knife pulling, i wonder what is the backstory regarding Panama’s friends. and he’s right about not knowing…people go thru, have gone thru some things, and all it takes is that one thing to push them. not saying it’s right, but let’s not pretend that men don’t purposely say hurtful things to women just like women say hurtful things to men….
Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 12:30 pm}
@Sula,
“fearing for their lives in the middle of Cabo!!!!”
Story?
Sula {July 9th, 2009 at 2:18 pm}
@Me Fail,
Trust me you don’t want to know.
Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 12:45 pm}
@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall…., no, it wasn’t out of the blue (not that it was warranted either). this was in fact, the night they met. lol. like any urban professional setting (read get together) folks were talking about something or other (cant remember what it was) and they disagreed with one another. thing is, both of them are very very strongminded and argumentative so neither would let it go. the argument got louder and more animated. im pretty sure the words, “you dont know sh*t” were spoken by both…
dude’s like, “who is this b*tch?” to some other people at my house.
did i mention this happened at myhouse?
anyway, we’re all in my kitchen. she goes traight to the drawer and pulls out my BEST cutco butcher knife.
at which ppoint the party ended.
we pushed him out the front door and her out the bakc door.
do you know i got yelled at by both of them for removing them from my premises? even my roommate at the time was mad at me cuz he flet like we removed him first and it should have been her to go first.
im like, ninja…we sent her ass out on the balcony and left her outside. at least he could go home!
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Sula {July 9th, 2009 at 2:21 pm}
@Panama Jackson,
Wow, folks are walking around with too much anger… Calling someone a b!tch and drawing a knife on discussion ALONE? I am sure one of them reminded the other of an ex or something. I don’t care enough about some stranger’s opinion to get all riled up like that.
How old were you all again?
Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 4:06 pm}
@Sula, senior year of college so…21?
IVR {July 9th, 2009 at 4:17 pm}
@Panama Jackson, “BEST cutco butcher knife.”
sidenote:
My cutco knives(the demo kit of course) still works like a charm 10 years after my dumarse tried to sell them things to old ladies in the projects. I got my 18 dollars a demo though! That is all.
I see this post taking off with stories (which this has to be begging, because this isn’t really a debate, at least a fair one)
I’ll just say this much:
Those who practice savagely beating their mate (a la Jake in Once Were Warriors) have control issues and are out to establish they’re the boss (in the most evil way possible)
Those who take that first beating and stay are masochists in a way that should creep normal human beings the hell out.
But those ghetto couples who box with each other all the time deserve each other, LOL…
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Selah {July 9th, 2009 at 2:25 am}
@Stuff Ghetto People Like, LOL! deserve each other?
I always did wonder about the people who stayed after the first azz whoopin.. like… I have NOcontrol if a dude freaks out on me and beats on me the first time.. like I said before, I’m never gonna win in a fight with a man so if he randomly goes Ike on me, what can I do? BUT i’ll be D*MNED if I’ma stick around for Round 2. no way no how!
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Stuff Ghetto People Like {July 9th, 2009 at 2:44 am}
@Selah, yep, deserve each other, because they both tend to be rowdy, rough around the edges, belligerent, and just plain wild like that. They’re a match made in ghetto heaven.
And on that person who stays, this is on the real serious tip here, the idea of being the female victim in that haunts me because of what it might take to fight back and end such foulness. Punch him in the face? Get a weapon and start swingin’, shootin’, etc.? Try to escape? Some of these batterers are simply the worst persons in the world who could be on some “if I can’t have you, no one can” type stuff. Also, chances are, he’s established some kind of dependent role where he saw in her someone weak enough to hem up and trap in life with him. All the classic ducks fall right into that proverbial row with the average batterer.
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K to the... {July 9th, 2009 at 10:25 am}
@Selah,
BUT i’ll be D*MNED if I’ma stick around for Round 2. no way no how!
I used to think the same way. But after attending a Domestic Violence Forum and hearing stories from victims of domestic violence (and seeing it first hand with fam)…I learned that it’s not that easy for the victim (no matter the gender) to leave due to different factors…from a certain dependency on the mate to fear of that mate possibly coming after them. So I try to stay away from saying “If it was me…” because you won’t know what you’ll do until you’re in that situation…and that’s with anything in life.
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 10:38 am}
@K to the…,
Good point. Meeting some of the victims made me realize the situation can be more complex than I give folks credit for, though, I’d stop short of saying I dont know what I’d do if I was in their shoes. That’s one of the few things I really do know.
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pgh muse {July 9th, 2009 at 10:44 am}
@Me fail english?, It may sad to say this…but where I’m from violence in a relationship is sometimes just par for the course. Not saying it’s right, it’s not. But it’s dayum near NORMAL. There are always complex circumstances surrounding the issues.
Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 11:10 am}
@pgh muse,
You know what’s funny. On one side of my fam, the side I spent more time with as a youngin, EVERYBODY fought. Uncles beating neices beating grandmas beating neighbors who “got an eye problem”. It was like the ultimate Tag Team Free for All. That’s what made me sooo anti-violence (and ironically resulted in folks thinking Id be an easy stripe, hence my constant fights). I wont even spank children. No slapping a toddler’s hand or anything. I went waaaay left.
But Ive got a lil cousin who went the extreme opposite way and is completely desensitized to it. She doesn’t leave her man (only fights back) cuz that’s what she thinks goes on at home. If she wasnt such an a*hole, my heart would be breaking for her.
Sula {July 9th, 2009 at 11:56 am}
@Me fail english?,
It really is sad when a woman (or man) thinks violence is normal in a relationship. We end up with classic cases like Rihanna and Chris Brown.
Selah {July 9th, 2009 at 12:44 pm}
@Me fail english?,
“I’d stop short of saying I dont know what I’d do if I was in their shoes. That’s one of the few things I really do know”
… me too. Get away. Quickly.
Intellectual Hedonist {July 9th, 2009 at 11:53 am}
@K to the…, I have said this on here before…in college me and my sorors had to prevent (yes PREVENT), as in lock our girl in someone’s apartment and sit with her all weekend and make sure she did not escape, in order to not allow her to go back to the boyfriend that had just beat her. We did everything short of kidnapping her to get her there and then kept her and for the next few weeks kept her away from him. We laugh about it now some 15 years later, but at the time it was quite serious. She ended up seeking professional help
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BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 12:31 pm}
@Intellectual Hedonist,
thas sad but i knew a chick like that but i didnt stop her she was grown. you can lead a horse to water but u cant make um drink
Sula {July 9th, 2009 at 11:46 am}
@Stuff Ghetto People Like,
Agreed. I don’t even know why there is a debate on this.
Like Liz stated, nobody should hit anybody period. In the case, somebody gets stupid enough and throws a punch, a bowl, a lighted match, they should expect the other party to react just as humanely (if their defense is that they were acting on instinct)… The same instinct that governs you, governs other human beings as well. If a situation gets out of control, why would you stay there and try to “talk it out”? When it has obviously passed the point of “talking”?
Violence begets violence and always will. It doesn’t matter if the person starting the violence pees standing up or down.
Women need to teach that to their daughters!!!!
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Intellectual Hedonist {July 9th, 2009 at 12:05 pm}
@Sula, “Women need to teach that to their daughters!!!!”
Men also need to teach this to their daughters. I tell my brother all the time to adjust the tone with which he speaks to my nieces because he in turn is setting the tone for how they engage with all the men in their lives. Remember we learn how to allow men to treat us by how men treat the women around us and how those women allow those men to treat us.
For the good or bad (it’s a vicious cycle)
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Sula {July 9th, 2009 at 12:27 pm}
@Intellectual Hedonist,
I totally agree with the dad part, it goes without saying. I am attracted to quiet and calmly authoritative man because that’s how my dad is. If anything needs to get resolved, it needs to be talked out. And that’s what I was taught.
My stance is that women need to protect their daughters by making them understand that as a woman you should NOT put your self and your stability in jeopardy at anytimes. The same way women should teach their daughters not to enter any room/house that seems shady and they do not know about the guy(s)’ intentions. My mother, grandmas and aunts ALWAYS told me, you would be the one losing out if you try to “fight fair”, just don’t go into the room or into the situation… instead of pressing charges later.
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shay_d_lady {July 9th, 2009 at 1:00 pm}
@Sula, totally agree with the dad part, it goes without saying. I am attracted to quiet and calmly authoritative man because that’s how my dad is. If anything needs to get resolved, it needs to be talked out. And that’s what I was taught.
I was the opposite.. my mom and dad are hot heads they fought each other and every one else….
I grew up trying to not be like that but I always had that “incredible hulk”trigger..and I always justified it by saying…you did this or so and so made me…
but now as an adult that shyt is for the birds.. I like a drama free life so I try to keep myself removed from bull shyt cause as hard as I have tried I still have an urge to strike when angry so I just try to not get angry….LOL
“Hitting in the face with a closed fist”
I do this. And what!?
But seriously, I identify with this Shayd: “I am a hot head and have gotten mad enough to throw a punch a time or two…and it wasnt because I didnt think he was going to hit back it was because i was mad and didnt give a f!ck…..”
And sometimes men want to get all b*tcha*s and do that, “No. Don’t leave. We need to talk about this,” routine. While they proceed to skirt the issue and not REALLY talk about it and act like you’re crazy. And if I’m not leaving–and you keep talking–i’m probably going to suckerpunch you. Betch.
And what!?
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shay_d_lady {July 9th, 2009 at 2:27 am}
@charli skipper, And sometimes men want to get all b*tcha*s and do that, “No. Don’t leave. We need to talk about this,” routine. While they proceed to skirt the issue and not REALLY talk about it and act like you’re crazy. And if I’m not leaving–and you keep talking–i’m probably going to suckerpunch you. Betch.
And what!?
LMAO… EXACTLY…thats why I make it a point to leave..
if im mad..give me some space.. I have to leave the situation, I cant think when I am angry….and high emotion+ lack of thought always for me = terrible consequences…LOL
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Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 10:04 am}
@shay_d_lady, I cant think when I am angry….and high emotion+ lack of thought always for me = terrible consequences…LOL
i can’t think straight if i’ve been punched in the face.
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 10:08 am}
@Panama Jackson,
“i can’t think straight if i’ve been punched in the face.”
My sentiments exactly. Getting stole on can change your whole persona. Unfortunately I know this from experience.
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BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 12:34 pm}
@Me fail english?,
“stole on” dam i aint heard that in decades lololol
+5000 OG points for you
shay_d_lady {July 9th, 2009 at 12:43 pm}
@Panama Jackson, can’t think straight if i’ve been punched in the face
I can understand..but how many times have you been punched in face and you werent already in a verbal altercation? how many times has a mofo just fi’ed on you out the blue?
thats my point, I dont stand and argue… I leave cause 1. there are some things you can say to me that make me wanna swing and 2 once you start a verbal altercation you are prone to say something to the other person that will do the same thing…
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Selah {July 9th, 2009 at 2:31 am}
@charli skipper,
you and Shay-d make me wanna man up. All I do is cry when I get really angry. lol
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PJ, the picture fills me with glee. She is really givin it to dude. lol
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Stuff Ghetto People Like {July 9th, 2009 at 2:47 am}
@Selah, Yeah, that pic is dynamic in a Marvel comic kind of way.
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feleez {July 9th, 2009 at 2:54 am}
@Selah,
co-sign…that picture is the best. she is tryna take his entire head off!
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Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 10:05 am}
@Selah, i do what i can to find the most entertaining pics that i can at times.
hence the cat from a few days ago.
i STILL crack up when i see that cat.
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WuDaMan {July 9th, 2009 at 12:31 pm}
@Panama Jackson,
word up I want to light his left handed catnip cigarette on the end of one of those strait pipes and pass him a snifter of some burbon and frosted flake milk.
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No man should ever lay hands on a woman under any circumstances…
Unless..she goes “there”.. *talks loud about ur mama, punches, kicks, or causes you bodily harm in any way shape or form. lol
I really hate fighting and i’ve always tried to avoid situtations that would involve some sort of drama. I have a pretty good mouthpiece so i have always talked my way out of altercations..lol
But i grew up in all Oakland Public Schools so fighting was survival sometimes..lol I ended up in a few fisticuffs, but whatever they started..i always finished. Cuz my mama would beat my a** if i didnt..lol
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Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 10:06 am}
@aja, *talks loud about ur mama,
ya know, chicks talking about my mama doesnt piss me off. cuz usually, i can ALWAYS retort about their mama or just yell out…well at least i know my daddy.
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BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 12:37 pm}
@Panama Jackson,
yea they dont wanna talk bout mamas cause i jus tell them all tha thang mamaz do bett than them. Like tha fried chicken, pata salad etc. shiiii mamas is the greatest female i eva knew. she deserves a 1hunned gold medals.
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Cheekie {July 9th, 2009 at 12:54 pm}
@BLUNTBLAZER,
LOL @ “1 hunned”. I love folks that e-speak the way they really speak.
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BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 1:39 pm}
@Cheekie,
i cant help it check tha “pata salad” yadadaimean
K to the... {July 9th, 2009 at 10:30 am}
@aja,
IMO, a grown auss man shouldn’t be having a bish fit because someone said “yo mama.” Geez…does he have an eraser head and rap with a guy name Play? *cue House Party*
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 10:36 am}
@K to the…,
LOL. Yeah, yo mama jokes don’t really get to me either. but hey, ya never know.
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olivya23 {July 9th, 2009 at 10:52 am}
@aja, No man should ever lay hands on a woman under any circumstances…Unless..she goes “there”.. *talks loud about ur mama, punches, kicks, or causes you bodily harm in any way shape or form.
but really just because she said something about yo mama (no wilmer valderamma) does warrant you busting her in her mouth. Self control! sticks and stones may break your bones but you should never hit her because of what she said.
My take on this is I would never hit a man (not including self defense but at the same time I should have seen the signs a while ago) BUT if she LAYS a hand on you, be it a slap, a love tap, or 3 jabs to the face…hit her the way she hit you…bet she won’t do it anymore. lol
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Intellectual Hedonist {July 9th, 2009 at 12:11 pm}
@olivya23, my ex used to say this “hit her the way she hit you…bet she won’t do it anymore”
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BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 1:44 pm}
@aja,
Oak-town!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Im from EAST PALO ALTO aka South oakland aka lil iraq
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aja {July 10th, 2009 at 3:49 am}
@BLUNTBLAZER,
E.P.A. ..holdin it down! 
heyyy neighbor!
@all yall….ive found that sometimes people can be REAL sensitive bout their mamas, cuz the daddys tend to be long gone…and they have some lingering dysfunction because of it. ..and as Panama said..” well at least i know my daddy!” LOL *likes dat retort*
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Long-time lurker, first time poster. That being said…
I knew a girl in college who, as her man was pledging, was fucking some other guy. Of course, guy no. 1 found out, and proceeded to whoop that *ss, at least once a week for 2 years. She stayed with him…
and continued to f*ck the other guy.
True story… and sh*t.
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Stuff Ghetto People Like {July 9th, 2009 at 4:15 am}
Oh wow…like I said, straight up masochist.
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blackberry molasses {July 9th, 2009 at 7:05 am}
@Honey Bee,
Welcome! **Diva Dust Classic ™**
Okay, NOW I’m out this bish. Peace.
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Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 10:07 am}
@Honey Bee, welcome and sh*t
and that is a very strange story. so dude 1 found out…and never found out again?
or was every beat down b/c dude “found out” that she was f*cking dude…again.
Stuff Ghetto People Like…you right…totally masochistic.
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BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 12:39 pm}
@Panama Jackson,
thas wha i was thinkin
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Sula {July 9th, 2009 at 12:01 pm}
@Honey Bee,
Those cases don’t even need to be mentionned. They deserve one another… maybe they’ll even have a threesome. *smh*
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K to the... {July 9th, 2009 at 12:33 pm}
@Sula,
or a “Beatsome”…
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Sula {July 9th, 2009 at 2:25 pm}
@K to the…,
LMAO.
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Marie and Donnie.
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charli skipper {July 9th, 2009 at 3:24 am}
@Liz,
Halle Berraaay.
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 9:25 am}
@charli skipper,
LOL!
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 10:32 am}
@Liz,
“Doug n’ Carrie, Doug n’ Carrie, Doug n’ Carrie…”
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Good topic! I completely agree with you Panama! I know if I eva eva played myself, and hit some dude, I better be ready for an Rihanna whooping! Some women intentionally say that one thing that they know will get to a guys soul, and she get’s the ish shook out of her!
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Hostess {July 9th, 2009 at 9:41 am}
@Jenny, But why would a man allow someone to have enough power over him where her words cause him to risk his freedom? Makes no sense. Self-control is all the hotness. More people should look into using it instead of allowing someone’s words to cause them to act a fool.
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Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 10:09 am}
@Hostess, self-control is easier said than done. that’s something you have to be taught. half of us ain’t even got daddies and live with pissed off mommas.
where the hell we supposed to learn something useful in life like self-control or time management?
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Intellectual Hedonist {July 9th, 2009 at 12:13 pm}
@Panama Jackson,
“where the hell we supposed to learn something useful in life like self-control or time management?”
t shirt?
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WuDaMan {July 9th, 2009 at 12:43 pm}
@Intellectual Hedonist,
I’d do a slow clap, single tear drop, & yell out, “who will cry for the little boy” every time I saw this t-shirt.
Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 12:58 pm}
@wudaman, i cringed when he did that poem in Antwone Fisher. worst acting derek luke has ever done in his life.
‘ill cry for the little boy.’
BOOOOOO
shay_d_lady {July 9th, 2009 at 1:03 pm}
@Panama Jackson
wudaman, i cringed when he did that poem in Antwone Fisher. worst acting derek luke has ever done in his life.
uh have you seen Ma Dea goes to jail? That scene where he breaks down crying and snotting and shyt? LMAO
Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 4:12 pm}
@shay_d_lady, though that was a horrible and overacted scene…who will cry for the little boy in AF was CLEARLY the most cringeworthy…i felt uncomfortable watching it and wanted to start kickin kittens and Vickin’ dogs and sh*t.
in Madea…during that scene, all i kept thinking was, “man, this chick looks WAY better than she did when she was derek luke’s mama in Antwone Fisher. i mean i know she was playing a crackhead but she was SO convincing. but, i’d hit now. “
BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 12:40 pm}
@Panama Jackson,
dam neva thought bout it like like
anotha “one time for ya mind” moment from PJ
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BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 12:41 pm}
@BLUNTBLAZER,
*like that* my bad its almost friday sue me
Men should never hit women.
However, if you hit someone, expect to get hit back. If a woman is really trying to go hard at a man, the man should do what he needs to do to restrain or neutralize her, but nothing more.
I can’t get behind no arse- whoopings, mollywoppings maybe?
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 10:10 am}
@Rae, drop of golden sun,
“I can’t get behind no arse- whoopings, mollywoppings maybe?”
LOL! Whose old school black Daddy are you?
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Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 10:10 am}
@Rae, drop of golden sun, mollywopping is one of my favorite words.
its right after spottieottiedopalicious.
welcome and sh*t, btw (i think)
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BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 12:42 pm}
@Rae, drop of golden sun,
Mollywhop lolololol dayummm
+5000 og points for you
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Head Bussa {July 9th, 2009 at 1:03 pm}
@Rae, drop of golden sun, if a Besch (Yea, I said it!) hit me I’m checking her like I would any dude! Two very very hard and quick punches to the face. If I break her jaw so be it! I’d never ever hit a woman unprovoked. Actually, I’ve never hit anyone unprovoked but, I was taught if a grown person hits another grown person and ya’ll not getting paid then the first hitter must be prepared to die! No lie! I don’t like violence but I do think if a women hits a man (or a man hits a man) who hasn’t hit them (real hit…close fist to face, skillet, etc…) she does deserve to get her jaw broken. That way she will have a reminder about hitting. That’s just me. Every woman I’ve ever been with has known this and NO ONE has tried me. Chuuurch!
Example: The ex-husband of the woman I was dating spit in my face while I was having a very nice dinner. He didn’t know that I train 5 days a week in an MMA gym, so I shoved my Dos Equis w/ lime bottle in his mouth and then broke both of his arms. The cops came and took him to jail, it was in a restaurant here in the H and they had a camera filming the whole thing!
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Whatever happened to a good old fashioned shaking?? lol. Now, while I don’t believe a man should ever lay his hands on a woman, I do remember sitting in the theater watching “A Family That Preys” and cheering when he slapped Sanaa across that counter. As a matter of fact, half the females in the theater were clapping with me.
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Nicki Sunshine {July 9th, 2009 at 7:59 am}
@The Lioness, I cheered also.
***runs out***
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 9:26 am}
@The Lioness,
I thought that scene was so lame. Like why didnt your betcharse just leave her earlier. Im short on respect who ppl who get themselves that deep into drama that they just flip.
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The BDay GEM {July 9th, 2009 at 10:03 am}
@Me fail english?,
girrrl you and me both.
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Sula {July 9th, 2009 at 12:09 pm}
@Me fail english?,
Agreed.
We are all so convenience-seekers! Remove yourself from the situation when you can!
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Nicki Sunshine {July 9th, 2009 at 12:22 pm}
@Me fail english?, I think they really made him look like a sucker in that movie. She tested him one too many times.
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Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 10:13 am}
@The Lioness, since we’re talking Tyler Perry…in why did i get married…
lol…i REALLY wanted to see Angela and Marcus go at it after she said that dude got VD from the other dude she had been schlumping.
that’s a question…what if you find out that you got an incurable STD from a woman b/c she was cheating?
like is being given the HIV reason enough to beat somebody down?
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T. Troy Stewart {July 9th, 2009 at 10:26 am}
@Panama Jackson, I don’t see how any of those dude were still friends with the Richard T. Jones character after he pulled that kiddie b.s. when he got called out on his bull. Friends don’t rat out friends.
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Sula {July 9th, 2009 at 12:16 pm}
@Panama Jackson,
Classic case of Voluntary Assumption of Risk. You put yourself out there “risking” a potential disease if there is one to have… You are liable (partially at the very least) to what happens to you… Strap up or use better judgment in your mate choices…
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 12:53 pm}
@Sula,
Thank you! They cant just throw the Herp on you like paint.
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Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 4:14 pm}
@Sula, but they were married. if your married shouldn’t you be able to assume your spouse isn’t cheating?
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The Lioness {July 9th, 2009 at 12:30 pm}
@Panama Jackson,
In that instance- I give absolute and unconditional permission for him to lay his hands on her and be completely absolved of his actions afterwards- lol.
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BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 12:45 pm}
@Panama Jackson,
thas automatic get murked status aka on on site aka funkcity usa aka kill the lights fallowed by “come on ninjas”*in awax voice*
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**BBMo peeks her head in… reads post… ponders….**
I feel like we’ve been here before.
**looks in archives… sees CBreezy and Rihanna post**
Yep. I was right. And the last time I spoke my mind, I was crucified and burned in effigy.
I’m out this bish.
**chucks deuces**
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T. Troy Stewart {July 9th, 2009 at 8:18 am}
@blackberry molasses, I wasn’t around yet so could you send me the Cliff Huxable Notes of what you said?
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blackberry molasses {July 9th, 2009 at 1:14 pm}
@T. Troy Stewart,
read below.
incidentally, I’ve NEVER been in a physical altercation in my life. Its probably because I look like I can kick azz… oh, and actually have license to do so. (2nd degree black belt)
As in all things in my life, I let my credentials speak for me.
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Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 10:15 am}
@blackberry molasses, somebody said that Rihanna deserved it??
i dont really remember.
i will say this…i REALLY want to know what transpired in that courtroom to allow CB to only get community labor/service and probation as opposed to jail time.
did the judge determine that CBs actions were somewhat warranted or something?? but he still had to pay for crossing the line??
i really want to understand this.
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blackberry molasses {July 9th, 2009 at 11:19 am}
@Panama Jackson,
I never said Rihanna deserved it.
But I remember saying while no one should ever put their hands on anyone, I understand why it sometimes happens. Some women INTENTIONALLY step over the line to test a man and that is not right either.
Doesn’t make it right to ever hit a woman. But I understand why it happens.
Now if a ninja puts his hands on me, he better have told his mama to get herself a nice black dress and have his affairs in order. Cuz someone will be going in the ground.
I’m going back to lurking, now.
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Cheekie {July 9th, 2009 at 11:24 am}
@blackberry molasses,
“Doesn’t make it right to ever hit a woman. But I understand why it happens. ”
This is a valid feeling and a feeling that I usually have in many situations where I feel someone did something “wrong”. Understanding why something happens does not mean you’re deeming it right, by default.
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Intellectual Hedonist {July 9th, 2009 at 12:32 pm}
@blackberry molasses, I am usually the first in my circle of firends to tell them the truth and call them on the bs…
I actually told one of my girls, “you know he should have beet your arse for that bull..” and meant every word.
I agree some women beg for it, maybe they are true masochists
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Chas {July 9th, 2009 at 11:23 am}
@Panama Jackson, honestly i think we need to see chris brown’s mugshot.
i believe that holds a key to the puzzle.
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BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 12:47 pm}
@Panama Jackson,
ti got a year and you trippin on CB?
im still trippin on how much time vick got.
and mystical memba him is that ninja eva gettin out?
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Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 1:06 pm}
@BLUNTBLAZER, oh im not trippin on CB…im just curious.
and yes, clearly TI desrved more time than a year for his army guns.
Vick should have gotten a WAY lighter sentence. if a sentence at all.
in fact, Vick should just have to go to animal shelters and pet puppies for a year.
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BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 1:50 pm}
@Panama Jackson,
vick went from richest dude in the nfl to construction worker. COnspiraCY like a mofo
Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 1:32 pm}
@BLUNTBLAZER,
Mystikal si wherever C Murder is at. LA corrections is NO joke
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miss t-lee {July 9th, 2009 at 1:36 pm}
@BLUNTBLAZER,
Mystikal raped a women as well and taped it, lest we forget…
He lost a fan that day, I used to cut for that kat real hard.
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BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 1:47 pm}
@miss t-lee,
naw he caught his hair sylist stealin hella hunneds of g’s from him so he made her boss up his whole click. He aint have no strap to her head or nuthin.
Should he have 2 peiced her?
Cheekie {July 9th, 2009 at 1:52 pm}
@miss t-lee,
“He lost a fan that day, I used to cut for that kat real hard.”
*sigh* Same here.
miss t-lee {July 9th, 2009 at 1:56 pm}
@BLUNTBLAZER ,
Yes–she stole money from him but I don’t agree with that ish he did.
Plus, that’s not what the videotaped evidence said…that’s why that kat is in the clink right now…
Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 2:12 pm}
@miss t-lee,
DAMN! I gotta go look this up now. Never knew the circumstances behind his arrest
I don’t think there’s ever a reason or circumstance. People tell kids to USE THEIR WORDS and I think this is what men should do. Having said that, let’s talk about the underlying reason women hit men: They have no respect for those men. They don’t have enough respect to use their words. If they are allowed to repeatedly pop off and lay hands, then the man is telling her it’s OK cus he stays with her.
Also it’s basically the same thing as with men hitting women. There are sure fire signs early on that a person is prone to get physical. The key is to spot them, not dismiss them, and leave the situation.
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WuDaMan {July 9th, 2009 at 12:52 pm}
@Hostess,
See these people are wasting time. Why is she w/ him if she doesn’t respect him and why would he be w/ her if he doesn’t love her???
Relationships are a choice.
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Hostess {July 9th, 2009 at 2:49 pm}
@WuDaMan, That is the realist thing you have ever wrote.
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I don’t think a woman should put her hands on a man EVER. Assume he is gonna hit you back. I’m not excusing a man for hitting a woman, but seriously, we need to stop “testing” the waters.
If either party feels like they are at the point of putting hands on eachother, perhaps the best decision would be to leave the home and calm down, or get out of that situation.
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T. Troy Stewart {July 9th, 2009 at 8:17 am}
@Nicki Sunshine, agreed.
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BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 12:52 pm}
@Nicki Sunshine,
my parents argued hella times but they neva fought they just got they space taught me alot.
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My Grandmother and father taught me when i was in elementary school that if a girl is man enough to try and beat you up (and I mean trying to do serious bodily harm) then you are clear to treat her like a man. I don’t wanna hurt a female but a friend of a friend wanted to test me in public.
The story i comment on their actions at a national convention for a national org that will stay anonymous. I condemned them for the being there for the wrong reasons and for making my life harder by running off and me having the responsibility falsy put on me to make sure they get to all the meetings on time. I raised my voice a little because i was aggiatated because checking on them cut in on my cutty time. so my friend, lets call her Jackie,’s friend , lets call her, Siera. Siera decided to get in my face and push me complaining about me getting loud with her and being in there business. I got loud back because i don’t like it when people try me like that. I told her back off before i knock her down. (which she obviously knew was an idle threat). So she start saying that I wouldn’t do it and she could kick my ass. *PAUSE*
I am a 6foot 2 inch football player defensive lineman. weighing in at 195 pounds at the time. She is a 5 foot 4 inch female with a loud mouth from the hood that moved into the suburbs.
*PLAY*
I told if she hit me I would destroy her and walked away
THis concludes this ni66a moment for the convention
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T. Troy Stewart {July 9th, 2009 at 8:16 am}
@The_Eighth_Hokage, My Grandmother and father taught me when i was in elementary school that if a girl is man enough to try and beat you up (and I mean trying to do serious bodily harm) then you are clear to treat her like a man.
No disrespect to those who paved the way for us to be here today; that sounds good on paper but when you up in the courts, the Street Confusiums aren’t constitutional and all the judge sees is another black man being violent (cuz he got all five seasons of THE WIRE, you look like Cheese and he can’t stand Cheese…or any of the billions of reasons why a black man can’t catch a break up in the just-us system)…
and you will be going to jail, my son.
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T. Troy Stewart {July 9th, 2009 at 8:22 am}
@T. Troy Stewart, also, I know that what Granddaddy and dem taught me won’t work up in the courts…and that was just for a traffic ticket.
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WuDaMan {July 9th, 2009 at 12:50 pm}
@T. Troy Stewart,
bwuaahahahahahaaha
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 2:10 pm}
@WuDaMan,
Unrelated: Wu, are you “Snake Bacon”??? He just tweeted me twice!
WuDaMan {July 9th, 2009 at 5:46 pm}
@Me fail english, nah that ain’t me
BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 12:54 pm}
@The_Eighth_Hokage,
yea i feel ya bruh im 6ft 230 and me fightin a chick aint gonna be pretty aint even worth tha time plus no good can come out of it
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I keep seeing the “just walk away” advice. That’s all well and good but please add the following:
“LET ME WALK AWAY, PLEASE”
some people take that as defiance. I can’t speak for everybody else but for me, it’s me just going somewhere to cool my jets and/or stop letting you push buttons you know set me off before I do go off and we’re in “deal breaker” territory.
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An Island {July 9th, 2009 at 9:10 am}
@T. Troy Stewart
When I said walk away, I meant end that relationship and never go back. I don’t recommend turning your back on someone who’s trying to come at you, and I don’t think calming down in another room or driving around town is gonna help. Once someone crosses that line, you’re a fool to think it’s going to be just that one time. Aint no pvssy good enough for any man to have to deal with that shyt. And what if you have kids with this bytch? You wanna teach your little girl that shyt and be the reason she gets ktfo one day? No thanks. I’d rather find someone who’s fvcked up on the other end of the spectrum, a chick who always apologizes for shyt even if it’s not her fault, if anything.
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An Island {July 9th, 2009 at 9:27 am}
@An Island
correction:
“When I said walk away, I **[ALSO]** meant end that relationship and never go back”
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Hostess {July 9th, 2009 at 9:31 am}
@An Island, And someone can’t make you STAY in the relationship. We have control of who we allow into our lives. If a woman were to hit my brothers, I’d tell him to not mess with her on any level. It ain’t that hard.
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T. Troy Stewart {July 9th, 2009 at 9:55 am}
@An Island, I was just talking about in a disagreement in general…
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Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 10:38 am}
@T. Troy Stewart, im with you homey. i’ve been in arguments before where the chick just wouldnt let me leave.
i had to physically break free of her and lock myself in my car and almost run her over to leave.
now i WANTED to run her over…but i asked jesus what he would do…
he said just run over her toe.
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T. Troy Stewart {July 9th, 2009 at 10:56 am}
@Panama Jackson, LOL
BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 12:56 pm}
@Panama Jackson,
my ninja lol
An Island {July 9th, 2009 at 10:41 am}
@T. Troy Stewart
Yeah, I gotcha. Some people are skilled at verbally, emotionally, or physically pulling you back in to an argument.
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T. Troy Stewart {July 9th, 2009 at 10:55 am}
@An Island, my lady has a master’s degree in Psychology…
I’ve lost any argument before I’ve opened my mouth.
Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 11:02 am}
@T. Troy Stewart,
Unrelated: I LOVE the way you speak about your woman. It makes me feel fuzzy.
T. Troy Stewart {July 9th, 2009 at 11:08 am}
@Me Fail English, she would beat me if I said anything bad about her.
WuDaMan {July 9th, 2009 at 12:59 pm}
@An Island,
so tell the truth you talk all kinds of sh*t in the bedroom right? jk
Nicki Sunshine {July 9th, 2009 at 12:25 pm}
@T. Troy Stewart, I agree with you. I just watched an episode of the First 48 a couple of weeks ago, and the man tried to leave. The woman put a gun to his head to make him stay and she ended up dead.
How she died was in question: He said he put her in a headlock and left and didn’t know.
but yet there was a cable cord around her neck, but that’s neither here nor there.. The point is, LET HIM/HER LEAVE!
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shay_d_lady {July 9th, 2009 at 1:11 pm}
@T. Troy Stewart, some people take that as defiance. I can’t speak for everybody else but for me, it’s me just going somewhere to cool my jets and/or stop letting you push buttons you know set me off before I do go off and we’re in “deal breaker” territory.
I gotta co sign this though… but I wanna add a caveat.. if you know you are to that point, dont let verbal please or threats keep you there.. but i have been in a stuation where I tried to walk away and the person tried to physically restrain me…
yeah…there was a fight.. but at the point that I was touched I felt it was self defense..
cuase it wasnt a baby baby please stay restrain.. more of a “yo azz aint going nowhere” joint…
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No one should be putting their hands on anyone.
Trust me–I will talk ish all day with the best of ‘em, I draw the line at putting my hands on a dude. I’m just not crazy like that. I don’t hardly even “play fight” anymore, because sometimes I can’t draw the line between us playing, and us being serious. That’s a fine line indeed. It’s best not to even play like that.
Now if it’s some domestic violence type ish and you put your hands on me first, best believe I’m wearing that azz out.
BTW–that picture is hilarious.
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Nicki Sunshine {July 9th, 2009 at 12:26 pm}
@miss t-lee, “I can’t draw the line between us playing, and us being serious”
Plus in a play fight someone might get hit in the nose, and I do believe that pain is prolly the worse I’ve felt, so I will black out and start windmilling. lol
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BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 12:58 pm}
@Nicki Sunshine,
playfighting always turns into “lets get ready to rumble” it always does
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miss t-lee {July 9th, 2009 at 2:12 pm}
@Nicki Sunshine,
Not the windmill!!!
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Being that I have a mother, a sister, neices, and a fiancee, I was raised and I live my life knowing better than to ever raise my hand to a woman. But there is a season for everything, and being that I’m not the biggest guy (5′9, 155) any female who holds serious weight with a grudge against me n wants to scrap might have 2 catch a two-piece minus the biscuit and fries.
I remember I was in 7th grade, on the van to school with the kids I’ve always gon to school with wen my friend smacks this girl in the back of the head with a bottle, thinking it was me the 195 pound black beast (I was all of 4′7 100 soaking wet, had a real late growth spurt) turned around and rick jamesed me. It was straight reflex that made me hit her that and the fact that I had a killer headache, me already having problems with the girl, and she was bigger than me. Size matters n big girls need to realize that guys don’t think their as fragile as their skinny counterparts. (I love me a big girl tho, dnt think ima hit u cuz u biggewr den me but if we da same size n u do any of the aforementioned we might have to turn the bed room n2 the ufc octagon)
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Hostess {July 9th, 2009 at 9:37 am}
@rockstar718, Interesting. My girl, who is bigger, mentioned this recently. She said us short little chicks can even pop off at the mouth more than she can (she’s about 6ft with the weight to match) because men see her as a physical threat.
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BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 1:02 pm}
@rockstar718,
i dunno dogg cant hate on you for that ya gotta stand ya ground handle ya bizz if the chick is considerably bigger than you then i guess yall can sqwab it out
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1. if i pull a knife, it’s b/c i intend to kill you
1b.. if i pull a gun, you’ll be dead before you can draw your next breath
3. neither men, nor women should hit their SO’s, this is true in both hetero- and homosexual relationships
4. men, you have to understand, there are consequences for actions. not saying that is an excuse to kill or even injure, but women are emotional creatures, and there is a thin line b/t love and hate. if you are lying, cheating, lying, cheating on your wife, gf, fiance, lover thinking that you’re a player, you should expect that something bad may go down if she (or he) finds out about it.
5. just like men, us women do not like to have our buttons pushed. those buttons can be pushed by the above referenced lying/cheating, along with other things that plays with out emotions.
6. finally, all people should treat others the way the want to be treated. show respect and common decency toward others, and you will get that back to you.
*** i am not condoning women hitting men. i just think men fool themselves
and other womeninto believing that they have no responsibility in anything.a lot of womenpeople always ask “what did the woman do to the him” when her man hits her (check the Chrihanna post), and the majority of the time, it’s nothing that should cause him to beat her. yet, those are the questions asked of the abused woamn. but if a woman hits her man, everyone feels sorry for him, and wants him to beat her azz. people rarely, if ever, ask what did he do to her to cause her to flip out.smh. basically, women absorb the responsibility(at least in society, maybe not in a court of law) on all sides of the equation.just my thoughts…i have plenty more, but i have to do a little work this morning.
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 9:52 am}
@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….,
Good stuff. Especially about the homosexual relationships. Jaw was on the floor watching MTV True Life. I forgot the episode. It was smthg totally random like “We’re Moving In Together”. But one of the featured couples was a physically abusive man-man romance. I was like WTF? I cant help but think MTV wouldnt have included them had they been a guy and girl.
Also, youre absolutely right. Female victims stay getting blamed for crimes! Rape, beatings, you name it. “Well what was she wearing? What did she do to provoke it?” WTF? Who cares? She is the VICTIM of a crime. When last you heard someone ask a car jacking victim get asked, “Oh you just had to come thru on Daytons, huh?”
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pgh muse {July 9th, 2009 at 9:56 am}
@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….,
Amen to this whole post!
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Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 10:47 am}
@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall…., 4. men, you have to understand, there are consequences for actions. not saying that is an excuse to kill or even injure, but women are emotional creatures, and there is a thin line b/t love and hate. if you are lying, cheating, lying, cheating on your wife, gf, fiance, lover thinking that you’re a player, you should expect that something bad may go down if she (or he) finds out about it.
look, i believe in consequences, but just b/c women are emotional does not justify certain actions. there’s really no good reason to put your hands on anybody. being emotional does not give you carte blanche to do so. if i mess up, and you you find out, that does not mean that you have the right to physically harm me and i should just take it b/c i messed up. you should leave or i should leave you.
if you feel compelled to wish and execute physical harm on anybody, you should expect if you aren’t killed to receive the same intensity in their attempts to maim you. just like i should expect bad things if i’m doing bad things…once you do harm to me you should expect harm.
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N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall.... {July 9th, 2009 at 12:27 pm}
@Panama Jackson,
if you feel compelled to wish and execute physical harm on anybody, you should expect if you aren’t killed to receive the same intensity in their attempts to maim you. just like i should expect bad things if i’m doing bad things…once you do harm to me you should expect harm.
treat others how you want to be treated. mutual respect can go along way in dealing with all of this. thing is, it has to be mutual…
and of course leaving/walking away is the best answer to most problems…unless we’re talking about a man who was hit by a woman, and then he can’t control himself, and proceed to beat her azz….and of course, she should expect this harm, b/c she did harm to him first….
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Chas {July 9th, 2009 at 11:35 am}
@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….,
it seems as tho, in general, women hit with the intention to get a reaction, and men hit with the intention of hurting you in some way. most men are taught from birth to never hit a woman, however it seems most women are not taught (in many cases) from birth never to hit a man.
that being said, i believe that is why we often question the female victim as opposed to the male victim. to “make” a not normally abusive man feel like he needs to hit you, usually indicates something has gone down to counteract his intuitive thoughts that he should never hit a woman.
in conclusion, men shouldn’t hit women and nobody should hit anybody and not expect a fight. period.
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BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 1:04 pm}
@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….,
why when you was talkin bout tha gun I thought of STEVE AIR MCNAIR
dam shot in his sleep by tha brezzy RIP
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Hitting a woman is never acceptable no matter the circumstance. If she pulls a gun on you, tries to stab you, attempts to punch you, or whatever; reaching out to restrain her is just as easy as reaching out to hit her. If you’re dating a volatile chick, don’t be Jimmy Cozier, just break up with her. Your gut should tell you she’s crazy long before she starts getting violent.
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CPT Callamity {July 9th, 2009 at 9:34 am}
@Voiceofreason,
Can’t agree…gun or knife instantly warrants self-defense or flight mode. If flight isn’t an option, defense is the greatest offense. A military man like myself will not allow someone to make me look down a barrel if I can help it. A chick who pulls a gun or knife is no different. That’s where some of you all got it messed up.
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Voiceofreason {July 9th, 2009 at 10:55 am}
@CPT Callamity,
So restraining a woman isn’t defending yourself? I mean seriously, you think it’s easier to hit than restrain? Or is it the principle that someone pulled a weapon on you and you feel they deserve to be hit?
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CPT Callamity {July 9th, 2009 at 12:35 pm}
@Voiceofreason,
Weapons = immediate threat. Stick around if you want. Sure, I’d restrain someone but a woman with something in her hand is no different than a man with something in his hand and that’s on me.
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BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 1:05 pm}
@CPT Callamity,
true true
Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 9:45 am}
@Voiceofreason,
What the help happened to Jimmy Cozier? Did he die? I knew I hadnt heard from him in a while???
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miss t-lee {July 9th, 2009 at 9:49 am}
@Me fail english?,
Ain’t nobody heard from him in a while….lol
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 10:12 am}
@miss t-lee,
“Sometimes I love herrrr/ sometimes I love her notttt..”
On an unrelated note, he sounded like such a low-self esteem head case on that song. Speaking of which, where’s Houston (singer)?
“I like that, I like that…Work that back!”
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miss t-lee {July 9th, 2009 at 10:14 am}
@Me fail english?,
Well you know he stabbed himself in the eye…and I guess it was all downhill from there.
Chas {July 9th, 2009 at 11:39 am}
@Me fail english?,
i saw a video of him a few months back. he was talkin bout gangs or som’n. and tryin to explain he really wasn’t crazy…i think.
Cheekie {July 9th, 2009 at 11:41 am}
*mouth dropped open a la Sebastian in The Little Mermaid @ Houston “stabbed himself in the eye”*
HOW was that able to occur?
Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 11:51 am}
@Cheekie,
He said the devil was in his eye and he was tryna get him out… which is what makes Chas’ comment hilariously disturbing :/
Voiceofreason {July 9th, 2009 at 12:03 pm}
@ Cheekie,
“mouth dropped open a la Sebastian in The Little Mermaid ”
That is the perfect visual. Houston really lost it. I saw a pic of him with his f****d up eye. It was nasty.
Cheekie {July 9th, 2009 at 12:15 pm}
@Me fail english?,
“He said the devil was in his eye and he was tryna get him out…”
*gasp*
What in the frick and frack is wrong with folks?Seriously, makes ya wanna quit the human race.
SMH.
miss t-lee {July 9th, 2009 at 12:19 pm}
@Me fail english/Cheekie/Chas,
It’s called PCP.
Voiceofreason {July 9th, 2009 at 11:07 am}
@Me fail english?,
He’s probably doing chitlin circuit plays with Christopher Williams.
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 11:32 am}
@Voiceofreason,
I was at a comedy show a couple weeks back. One of the promoters was walking around handing out flyers for one of those weekend bus trips to Atlantic City…with Christopher Williams.
What in the early 1990’s???
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Voiceofreason {July 9th, 2009 at 12:07 pm}
@Me fail english?,
Speaking of pseudo-heartthrobs of the ’90s with good hair…Is it true that Al B. Sure! has an album coming out in ‘09. Has it already been released?
Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 12:25 pm}
@Voice,
Yes girl! Al “Off On Your Own” B. Sure is making a comeback with his deadbeat daddy self. I havent heard anything yet, but my sis says the first track sounds good.
Nicki Sunshine {July 9th, 2009 at 12:31 pm}
@Voiceofreason, I quit all of yaw today. lol. I cannot be doing all of this kimfoolery at work!!!
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Cheekie {July 9th, 2009 at 1:11 pm}
@Nicki Sunshine,
“I quit all of yaw today. lol. I cannot be doing all of this kimfoolery at work!!!”
I know, it’s a shame, right? But then again, sometimes it helps me get through work! lol
Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 10:51 am}
@Voiceofreason, yeah i can’t agree either. weapons that kill should put anybody in self-defense mode.
i shouldn’t say, oh she’s a woman with a gun, just hold her tight. f*ck that.
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Voiceofreason {July 9th, 2009 at 11:14 am}
@Panama Jackson,
If somebody has a gun in your face, male or female, it’s doubtful that you’ll have time to restrain or hit the person. Trying to convince them to put the gun down is probably the most logical way to save your a**. Taking a swing will most likely make them shoot if they really intend to.
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Sula {July 9th, 2009 at 12:41 pm}
@Voiceofreason,
Even in court, a gun and a knife are valid self-defense options. See this is what gets folks in hot waters. Do NOT, I repeat do NOT, pull a weapon on someone and not expect a reaction. I mean are men super Gods all of the sudden, who can supercede their humanity and react “appropriately” when the woman is “soooo emotional” she has to draw a gun?
If you are in a situation where you have to draw a gun, a knife, a what-have-you, you have been in that situation for far too long… and Emotional Distress gets little play in the courts
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WuDaMan {July 9th, 2009 at 1:04 pm}
@Sula,
*standing clapping*
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I concur.
There has been an influx of women who have the attitude that they can hit men with no repercussions and some exploiting the fact that they can always claim victim.
Personally, one hit, I’ll walk away. Two hits, you’re pushing it. Anything after that and you might have to get split to the white meat. That’s man or woman but a man is getting slumped after hit one.
Oh yeah…just in case our resident feminists want to spin this somehow and keep crying that men beat on women more…check your stats. Women have become more violent over the past few decades and it’s trickling down to little girls. Keep your hands to yourselves!
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pgh muse {July 9th, 2009 at 10:08 am}
@CPT Callamity, lol. Before i go in on this Imma say Hi! How r u today? You’ve been quiet lately
… ne who,
I agree that women are getting more violent Cpt. But I have to wonder why that is. I definitely think is related to a larger disconnect between black men and women. It’s every man / woman for his or herself these days… and it’s sad.
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CPT Callamity {July 9th, 2009 at 12:40 pm}
@pgh muse,
Hey Muse. I’ve been lurking but I’m here.
It’s a large disconnect, but it also supports the theory of certain post-feminist ideals coming to pass. I had a conversation with a co-worker the other day, and mentioned a word that no too many women are even familiar with and that is MISANDRY. That is the hatred and disdain for men. Believe it or not, most American women nowadays have notions of this concept ingrained in them yet are not aware of it’s definition or even when they are exercising it. Send me an email at CPTCallamity@gmail.com if you want the title of a book that highlights this very issue. It’s very easy for people to identify and call out someone for misogyny but misandry goes unchecked!
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pgh muse {July 9th, 2009 at 1:22 pm}
@CPT Callamity, I am definitely going to email u. But I do want to say that I do absolutely think that a lot of women hate men. But i think it’s because a lot of men don’t do their job. Men don’t protect women. A lot of girls are molested by men who are supposed to love them. I think the running statistic is 1 in 4 – girls start hating men very young. And when they are dating – men are out there trying to take advantage of them still instead of showing them love. It’s a vicious cycle that we’re currently trapped in. I’m not blaming only men… but i gotta go. I will def email u though.
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CPT Callamity {July 9th, 2009 at 12:46 pm}
@pgh muse,
Oh yeah…this is not a BM/BW issue but an American/Western society situation.
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Sula {July 9th, 2009 at 12:46 pm}
@pgh muse,
But I have to wonder why that is.
One reason might be that women/mothers are not teaching their daughters healthy coping mechanisms because they have not mastered them themselves. We need to teach our daughters that self-preservation rawks!!! And that includes on every level!
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CPT Callamity {July 9th, 2009 at 12:53 pm}
@Sula,
Mother’s are breeding their daughters to be fierce competitors instead of complimentary elements of the man/woman dynamic. With that competitive nature, they begin to remove and contradict the “you should never hit girls” mantras by becoming more violent and unstable in their responses to their environment. ON that I do agree…
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Violence is never the answer…….. in certain instances one must defend themselves but in general if you are in situations and feel promted to steal a mofo and/or shoot or shank a nucca maybe that ought to indicate thats the wrong situation for you……….
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Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 10:53 am}
@OrangeStar616, though i agree…you dont often have that realization until AFTER you’ve stolen a mofo.
and that might be b/c your in jail and have time to think…but you know, thinking time is thinking time no matter where it is.
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OrangeStar616 {July 9th, 2009 at 12:55 pm}
@Panama Jackson, Hindsight is abundantly extra overly crystal clear isn’t it??? LMAO
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 10:58 am}
@OrangeStar616,
LOL. This theory is the reason I got in so many fights! Thinking “its not that deep”, “its not worth it” and especially saying it aloud around the wrong ppl and you’re liable to get your asz whupped even more.
Its a jungle out there
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OrangeStar616 {July 9th, 2009 at 12:53 pm}
@Me fail english?, LOL. yeah “these evil streets is rough, theres no one you can trust etc “..Onyx
Thats why “you must think first, before you move” ……36 Chambers..
lil fights/verbal exchanges turn to murder in the bat of an eye..not dsaying be soft or a sucker just assess the situation before reacting ………
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Seems like everyone’s posting a variation on the same two boring points. So lemme spice up ya life with some stories! LOL
I’m torn on the issue because of the following instances:
-At 16 I had a bf that played too much. He wasnt abusive or even mean but he turned into an a*hole around his friends. One night he was talking dumb shet (probably teasing me about my voice or mole or smthg) but for some reason he was really getting under my skin. The more of a rise he got outta me, the more he’d skewer, much to his friends’ delight. So I barked on him, seriously. He barked back. I pushed him outta my way to leave (so I guess I started the violence) and he grabbed me really hard so I couldn’t leave and wound up twisting my arm. He wouldnt let go. So I picked up a dull knife and stabbed him in his. And didnt draw a whole lotta blood. But it got him off me.
-Another time, also at age 16, a 7 months pregnant bish at the laundromat tried to push me down a flight of steps. So I beat the bish like she stole smthg. Loosened a tooth and all. The haters at the laundromat said I shoulda just pushed her off me and not stood and had a knockdown-dragout…but fcuk them.
-Another time a chick snuffed me. I fell to the ground and we wrestled. She got up (I guess she thought the fight was over…I didnt) and I started choking her. Eyes bulging out the head, tearing, losing color kinda choke. Then when someone broke my grip, I picked up an iron and hit her over the head. The arsehole bystanders (who obviously never been physically attacked) tried to have me arrested cuz even tho I aint start the fight, I “took it to far”. Go suck something.
What’s my point? Im torn, because having been hit by people bigger than me, I can tell you the potential damage done by someone larger than you vs. the damage done by someone your size or smaller is VERY different. Therefore “women can hit men, but men can’t women” makes perfect sense to me. On the other hand, having been physically assaulted several times in my life (smh) I can tell you it’s very easy to lose control of yourself.
In theory, I’d love to do just enough to get folks off me. In a real live, stress situation the attacked party may very well revert to animal instincts (literally!), even at a non-lethal threat. So dont be surprised if the person you slapped winds up tryna KILL your pregnant, not-fighting-that-hard, womanly asz.
And Im actually very slow to anger. True life.
Thanks for reading my novel.
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miss t-lee {July 9th, 2009 at 9:51 am}
@Me fail english?,
“-Another time, also at age 16, a 7 months pregnant bish at the laundromat tried to push me down a flight of steps. So I beat the bish like she stole smthg. ”
I’m so ashamed that this made me chuckle.
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pgh muse {July 9th, 2009 at 10:13 am}
@Me fail english?, I agree.
In theory on paper it’s easy to say Men shouldn’t hit women… but in real life — it’s not that easy.
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Peysonic Temple {July 9th, 2009 at 10:21 am}
@Me fail english?, u beat a pregnany chick? i wish we hung out in school
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 10:54 am}
@Peysonic Temple,
lol, Peyso. Lemme find out you had pregnant beef!
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Nicki Sunshine {July 9th, 2009 at 12:34 pm}
@Peysonic Temple, LMAO! I need to see this story Peyso.
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Cheekie {July 9th, 2009 at 10:29 am}
@Me fail english?,
“Another time, also at age 16, a 7 months pregnant bish at the laundromat tried to push me down a flight of steps. So I beat the bish like she stole smthg.”
HAHA. Well, it was two against one anyway so good for you for holding it down.
“Thanks for reading my novel.”
I smell Pulitzer!
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An Island {July 9th, 2009 at 1:22 pm}
@Cheekie
“Well, it was two against one anyway so good for you for holding it down.”
That’s just wrong. Incredibly funny, but wrong.
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Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 10:58 am}
@Me fail english?, On the other hand, having been physically assaulted several times in my life (smh) I can tell you it’s very easy to lose control of yourself.
i think thats the crux of my point. you cant expect somebody who’s being assaulted, in any way, to maintain a level head and respond logically and rationally. there’s no cost-benefit analysis that occurs when you’re being beaten or being threatened. you go full animal.
of course you think about it later. but at the time, you’re not wrong for concerning yourself with your survivial. now, this aint the case if you get slapped or something. but if you pull a knife on me, though i should run b/c you have a weapon and i don’t…if you put it down, i just might try to kill you.
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Kindred Smile {July 9th, 2009 at 12:13 pm}
@Me fail english?, Finally! Something to hold my attention – keep em coming
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 12:22 pm}
@Kindred Smile,
haha. Glad I could help. I’ve been in more physical fights than I can count or even remember (seriously, my mom has brought up stuff I totally forgot about). Real talk: I cant EVER remember putting my hands on someone first. And some of these people, I dont even remember having a verbal exchange with. I just went from dumbfounded @ their anger to a fist on my face. Go figure…
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Intellectual Hedonist {July 9th, 2009 at 12:47 pm}
@Me fail english?, I loved the novel. when is the sequel coming out
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BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 1:11 pm}
@Me fail english?,
dam girl chicks be vicious tho some of the best fights i eva seen involved chicks
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An Island {July 9th, 2009 at 1:19 pm}
@Me fail english?
1. If i’ve ever pissed you off, my sincerest apologies.
2. This just confirms my belief that you better be the craziest person in the fight, otherwise don’t start nothin.
As a bigger (taller) person people rarely step to me, but I know if I snapped like you did someone would be explaining the fight to jesus when it was over.
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 2:51 pm}
@An Island,
You talls are a lucky race. I’m 5′3″ and just look like I belong on the bottom of someone’s shoe.
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Yes, there are situations.
When it comes to me, with the exception of life threatening actions, I will just walk away or perhaps restrain hands. However, this implies a 1 on 1 or 1 on few situation where I can do that. Anymore, and I may need to deal a few test blows to see how committed people are.
The same applies to my male friends/relatives/associates. If I see them in such a situation, I leave it alone unless it escalates to something like I described above.
When it comes to my female friends/relatives/associates, I always intervene to put a stop to the nonsense. In those cases, I follow the “people I don’t know better understand that I’m only going to say this once because the next words they may here from me is: ‘I’m not sure how a single right cross broke that jaw. Beats me’”. So, in that case, I simply say “Stop it” or “Stop this” or something similar.
Failure to obey results in physical escalation proportional to the level of the altercation and level of compliance.
Once you have crossed that place in my mind from “woman” to “thing that needs to be stopped NOW”, I’m not sure why you’d expect to be treated otherwise.
You know what’s funny, in my relationships where the girl would scream and hit, at some point, I’d be asked “Why don’t you ever get really mad and yell and throw things around?” and my response would be “and why would you want that?”
I think women sometimes ignore that men are taught to suppress their emotions for more salient reasons than it is “manly”.
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Peysonic Temple {July 9th, 2009 at 10:11 am}
@kamakula, “I think women sometimes ignore that men are taught to suppress their emotions for more salient reasons than it is “manly”.” Some REAL sh!t right here
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pgh muse {July 9th, 2009 at 10:14 am}
@Peysonic Temple,
It is.
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My mom told me if ANYONE hits you, you hit em back. Everyone on this site knows, that I was forced to beat a chick with a garbage can. However, I do not condone violence against women and children. I feel that it’s just unfair. I’ve been in a dispute with a SO and I let her get a few off, cuz quite frankily they dont hurt that much and she gonna tire out soon anyway. Plus I’m a pretty big dude. However, if my 22yo gf or a lil punk arse 11yo keep hitting me, I’m gonna knock em out. And then I’m gonna call either my mom or my lil cousin to knock you out again.
A very related side note: I was at a club on Fri with the gf and my ppls. My ex was there with her new boo. One of my bestfriends/frat bruh’s gf got into it with the ex. We managed to get the beef squashed. My frat bruh was trying to laugh it off, and jokingly got in the ex’s face. She punched him in the mouth. Had I not stepped in, he would have been in jail. Her new boo did nothing. He didnt try to stop him, he didnt try to pull her away. IMO if she would have gotten her arse kicked it would have been his fault. How do you feel about that?
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 10:16 am}
@Peysonic Temple,
Nah, it still woulda been your best friend’s fault. But her new man is lame and I’m glad you squashed it.
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Peysonic Temple {July 9th, 2009 at 10:23 am}
@Me fail english?, she punched him in the mouth, drew blood in front of a club with a line full of ppl, for no real reason and she doesnt deserve at least a head butt?
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N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall.... {July 9th, 2009 at 10:40 am}
@Peysonic Temple,
ok, he “jokingly” got in the face of a girl who was probably still very mad about the preceeding beef that was supposedly just squashed, and you’re surprised that she hit him? sounds like she felt threatened…or at least that’s how i would feel.
and her man is a lame….
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Peysonic Temple {July 9th, 2009 at 10:54 am}
@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall…., the thing is that they know each other. they have known each other for years.
Also, I dont see how she thought a single punch in the face would have prevented her from being harmed or alleviated the perceived threat
N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall.... {July 9th, 2009 at 11:52 am}
@PEYSO
they know each other…so what? she had just gotten finished beefing with another girl, and he gets in her face…why? i think this is a case of silliness and immaturity and irresponsibility on his part. curious, how old are they?
Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 10:53 am}
@Peysonic Temple,
I dunno what she “deserves”. I just dont think your friend should’ve TRIED to hit her. How u gonna get all in the mix of a heated situation and be surprised/embarrassed/mad when you get hit? This is exactly why I dont break up physical fights.
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Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 11:03 am}
@Peysonic Temple, see, that’s one of the worst situations ever.
public place = heightened sense of pride
punched in mouth = desire to return favor
pride is a helluva drug. and you know, she punched him in the mouth and drew blood? i might be inclined to WANT to knock her out and would most likely need somebody to step in and stop me.
a thinking man would walk away. a normal man would try to kill her. and her BF is a p*ssy and she should leave him. i’m guessing he caught a tongue lashing in the car…but ALSO told her that it would have been her fault.
i’m guessing they’re broken up now.
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N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall.... {July 9th, 2009 at 12:52 pm}
@Panama Jackson,
public place = heightened sense of pride
punched in mouth = desire to return favor
didn’t he get in her face? her fault b/c a man got in her face, which is the normal thing for a man to do to a woman who was actually beefing with another girl, and not the man? smh, you men are killing me with your male privilege….
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Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 1:11 pm}
@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall…., male privelege? LMAO. come on. i aint saying he should be able to get in her face b/c he’s a man. however, you’re the one talking about consequences.
he got in her face so she hit him. consequence.
she popped him in the mouth and he’s supposed to say, oh well, i did get in her face…this is my bad??? come on. how realistic is that. put yourself in those shoes.
look, everybody’s wrong in this situation. granted. however, who in their right mind is going so say, you know what, i deserved to get a bloody mouth for getting in her face.
hell, much like every body else, she could have walked the f*ck away, right?
she didn’t. she popped him and still walked away in tact b/c she has good friends.
be real. if you saw anybody get socked in the jaw you’d expect a fight to ensue, right? even if you dont know the circumstances.
violence ain’t science, it’s emotional. unless your a serial killer.
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N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall.... {July 9th, 2009 at 2:04 pm}
@Panama Jackson,
i am being real, and i didn’t say that YOU said he should be able to get in her face. but the reality is that men do use their privilege as a man to imtimidate women. that is what he did, or at least tried to do. so, she hit him. not saying it’s right, but a lot of you today have alluded to this mysterious woman who hits men for no darn reason, and that is not always the case. and, i’m not suggesting that he shouldn’t FEEL angry, and want to get violent, but to think it would’ve been her fault if he knocked her out, when his actions precipitated the events is bullshyt, and speaks of your male privilege to actually think you should be able to do that and not face any of the responsibility.
sure she could’ve walked away, but like Me Fail says below, he stepped to her like a woman, so she knocked that jaw like he’s a woman…isn’t that the prevailing idea in regards to women hitting men? not that you said that, but it is interesting, isn’t it?
Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 1:15 pm}
@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….,
Interesting point. I’d also venture out (not that PJ said this), that was the man getting in her face “like a woman” a valid reason for him to get boxed like a woman?
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N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall.... {July 9th, 2009 at 2:27 pm}
@Me fail english?,
absolutely, Me Fail!! good catch!! and that male privilege is the only thing preventing a man from seeing that as a valid and plausible reason, but believing wholeheartedly in the reverse.
Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 4:19 pm}
@N.I.A, when he got in her face, he stepped to her as a “woman”?
please do explain this to me. i’m a man, i’m slow.
pgh muse {July 9th, 2009 at 4:55 pm}
@Me fail english?, Wow! This is GOOD!
PJ – she is saying that he got in her face in a threatening manner as if he was a woman – because what place does a man have threatening a woman in that fashion – and she responded accordingly.
N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall.... {July 9th, 2009 at 5:30 pm}
@Me fail english?,
thank you, pgh muse
BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 1:14 pm}
@Peysonic Temple,
garbage can dam you sound like tha dude i was locked up with he beat his woman’s jump off with a poker table. got manslaughter or sumthin strait savage shii
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Disregard.
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 10:16 am}
@Legendary Dash,
So yall were just having a great night and she woke up decided “Breakfast in bed!”? Damn, glad you woke up homie!
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let me just throw this out there. if you like it, keep it. if not, send it on back…
just becuz a woman THINKS she is “man enough” to hit/beat up on a man, doesn’t mean she in fact IS “man enough” to get beat up like a man. the women who talk the most trash, start fights, and try to get “gangsta” aren’t usually women who can actually back it up– body strength wise (read: she is not as strong as the man she’s “attacking”). so to start whaling on a chick, who you could clearly kill with repeated blunt force trauma to the dome, is NOT ok. i don’t care what she did. her wildin out and giving you a black eye or a busted lip is NOT cause for you to stomp her like a wine grape.
while i don’t condone ppl putting their hands on each other PERIOD i can at the very least understand a man slapping a girl or throwing her off him in SELF DEFENSE. but delivering an @$$ whoopin just to prove to her she should never put her hands on him?? GTFOOH.
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Ivy St. {July 9th, 2009 at 10:27 am}
@The BDay GEM,
“i don’t care what she did. her wildin out and giving you a black eye or a busted lip is NOT cause for you to stomp her like a wine grape.”
I cosign!
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Cheekie {July 9th, 2009 at 10:40 am}
@The BDay GEM,
“i don’t care what she did. her wildin out and giving you a black eye or a busted lip is NOT cause for you to stomp her like a wine grape.”
I just had a weird visual of the infamous Lucy Arnaz wine grape stomping scene, only a woman’s face was the grapes.
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pgh muse {July 9th, 2009 at 10:47 am}
@The BDay GEM, Good Point! At a certain point self-defense ends and vengence begins…
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 10:52 am}
@pgh muse,
Yeah, most of what ppl describe as “self-defense” aint nothing but a COUNTER-ASSAULT. At least according to our courts. Believe me. I learned this the hard way!
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overit? {July 9th, 2009 at 2:34 pm}
@Me fail english?, are you shay d lady’s heir? lol
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 2:49 pm}
@overit?,
lol. We probably have a Pop pop in common. A mean and angry pop pop…
I only wound up paying restitution though. Woo-hoo!
Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 10:50 am}
@The BDay GEM,
“just becuz a woman THINKS she is “man enough” to hit/beat up on a man, doesn’t mean she in fact IS “man enough” to get beat up like a man. ”
I cosign this. None of it is “right” but I can follow the logic of a man “losing it” after being hit. I dont understand the ppl who can say of a sound and “rational” mind, that a violent woman is “man enough” to get treated like a man. What about a violent child? Are they man enough to catch the haymaker too??? Given what we know about crazy women, what makes her mental state/maturity level so much different?
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pgh muse {July 9th, 2009 at 10:56 am}
@Me fail english?, It’s not. Women get pushed to the edge too, but men seem to think that because they are stronger a woman should just “stay in her place”.
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Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 11:06 am}
@pgh muse, not sure i agree with this…at all. aside from straight up domestic abuse, most men aren’t tryign tput women in their place when a fight breaks out. most of us are trying to figure out how to not get into a physical altercation. there’s very little “stay in her place” that occurs unless that’s their MO in which case it would be domestic violence.
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pgh muse {July 9th, 2009 at 12:05 pm}
@Panama Jackson, Right. I agree. But whenever a man decides that he’s going to beat a woman like she’s a man, cause she’s acting like “a man” then he’s trying to put her in her place. A woman is not a man. And I do realize that it takes a high level of stress to bring a lot of men to violence – but there are a lot of men who are abusive, violent and sadistic toward women. Domestic violence and sexual violence against women and girls is still very real, so i really kinda forget what i was tryna say. yeah. but that’s it
Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 11:10 am}
@The BDay GEM, just becuz a woman THINKS she is “man enough” to hit/beat up on a man, doesn’t mean she in fact IS “man enough” to get beat up like a man. the women who talk the most trash, start fights, and try to get “gangsta” aren’t usually women who can actually back it up– body strength wise (read: she is not as strong as the man she’s “attacking”).
what you’re speaking to seems to assume that she hits him and he totally snuffs her out. that’s not the same thing as having a weapon pulled on you methinks and reacting to it. but let’s say in an extreme circumstance, you get a gun pulled on you, and it leads to a beat down…are you supposed to recongize when to pull up bc she’s not physically your superior? that’s asking a whole lot of somebody put in a position where fight-or-flight comes into play.
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The BDay GEM {July 9th, 2009 at 11:37 am}
@Panama Jackson,
did i mention anything about weapons?? NO. what i AM talking about is many dudes (including those who comment on this blog) saying they’ll lay some chick out if she puts her hands on him, or saying that if she’s man enough to hit a dude, she’s man enough to get beat like one. and that is NOT ok to me. that is not a RATIONAL or even appropriate emotional response. there is some serious rage and/or anger mgmt issues if a dude thinks its acceptable to pummel a girl for throwing a punch at him.
guns and knives being pulled on some one is not NORMAL or frequent behavior amongst sane male-female relationships and therefore does not warrant a response from me.
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 11:49 am}
@The BDay GEM,
Yeah. That’s a control issue…or worse. In my right mind, which I assume we all are as of this typing, there’s no way I would CHOOSE to fight someone half my size at full strength just cause they hit me first. Do yall bite puppies, too?
I mean, if he’s dog enough to give a bite…
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The BDay GEM {July 9th, 2009 at 12:10 pm}
@Me fail english?,
LMAO @ “I mean, if he’s dog enough to give a bite…”
Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 1:13 pm}
@Me fail english?, um hell yeah i bite puppies. they just got Vick first.
i also kick kittens and stop lovebirds from singing.
i’m a damn G.
Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 1:18 pm}
@The BDay GEM, i dont know that anybody is like, if i get hit once, then she’s fair game. most of us, at least on this blog anyway, i’m guessing would TRY to deflect most of it and attempt to calm her the f*ck down. however, you and i both know people who that aint working for.
in fact, one of my boys, with me present, had his chick pull a knife on him b/c he wasn’t getting pissed enough and was able to resist her blows.
i just dont think guys are like, she punches me im laying her out…though getting socked in the face stops rational thought…and i’ve been hit in the face before and i lost my mind for a second…til my folks stopped me from commiting a felony.
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 1:27 pm}
@Panama Jackson,
This makes sense. The reason I gotta ask is cuz I’ve seen men and boys employ this logic after a single hit. Not even a hard one at that on some “it’s not my fault she can’t throw a punch”
*cringe & cry*
Cheekie {July 9th, 2009 at 11:38 am}
@Panama Jackson,
“just becuz a woman THINKS she is “man enough” to hit/beat up on a man, doesn’t mean she in fact IS “man enough” to get beat up like a man. the women who talk the most trash, start fights, and try to get “gangsta” aren’t usually women who can actually back it up– body strength wise ”
Exactly. Anyone of any size (and gender) can fight. Doesn’t mean the fight will be fair.
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Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 1:16 pm}
@Cheekie, what is this, West Side Story?
when was the last time you saw a fair fight? like folks actually size eachother up and say, “this is fair, we can do this”
how come she doesn’ thav eto make that same judgement? not saying i’m all about laying hands on women but if i have to consider that i can beat some chick down then shouldn’t she consider that she can’t beat me down?
especially if she starts wailing on a ninja.
you all must be some of the most rational individuals on the planet…at all times.
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Cheekie {July 9th, 2009 at 1:41 pm}
@Panama Jackson,
LMFAO @ West Side Story.
“when was the last time you saw a fair fight? like folks actually size eachother up and say, “this is fair, we can do this””
I’m talmbout extremes, though. You’re being picky with the measurements. I’m saying A 7 feet man beating on a 5 feet woman (which is usually the case, ya’ll tall ninjas like ‘em short as possible) is not a good look. I don’t agree with the phrase “If she can fight like a man…blah blah blah”. Since when do men have a hold on fighting? Women fight like women. They don’t fight like men. If she can fight well, then she can fight well, it’s not “fighting like a man”. WHO the hell made men the be all and end all on scrappin’? Have you forgotten the patented “take off my earrings” move? Yeah, that’s women. Or the term “cat fight”? Both women terms.
I’m not disagreeing that women can pose a threat at times, I’m just saying when it comes to fist fighting, if the man is bigger, he will win…unless he’s as dumb as a box of stale crackers. Notice that the majority of exceptions in your list depends on the woman having something EXTRA to defend herself. Like I said below, unless the chick is Lady of Rage and/or you are Steve Urkel, there’s not much to be threatened by in terms of brawn…
unless she knees you in the Peanutsack, then you are done for.Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 4:22 pm}
@Cheekie, Since when do men have a hold on fighting? Women fight like women. They don’t fight like men. If she can fight well, then she can fight well, it’s not “fighting like a man”. WHO the hell made men the be all and end all on scrappin’?
um, God did that. we came first cuz we won an UFC round against this alleged woman.
we fight better so god said, “and then there was man…”
BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 1:17 pm}
@PJ,
i kicked a chiwawa b4 mofo would bite my pants eryday i walked home from school but one day the fuqa bit my ankle and I turned into PELE
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Cheekie {July 9th, 2009 at 1:43 pm}
@BLUNTBLAZER,
*perished* @ Pele.
Sula {July 9th, 2009 at 2:36 pm}
@BLUNTBLAZER,
Not Pele. *dead*
The one and only reason a man should hit a woman:
If Lady of Rage comes after you in a..well…rage. She’s huge. She has afro puffs. She is the master of the scary mean mug.
And she is rough and stuff after all.
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Nicki Sunshine {July 9th, 2009 at 12:36 pm}
@Cheekie, LMAO. I cannot! Not today.
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BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 1:18 pm}
@Cheekie,
DAY-DAY !!!!!!! lol
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Cheekie {July 9th, 2009 at 1:49 pm}
@BLUNTBLAZER,
*snort*
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 1:24 pm}
@Cheekie,
Afro puffs = Swift fists like Camacho
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It’s easy for a woman to say that a man should never ever put his hands on a woman but that’s ridiculous. What, so I just take a knife for the sake of chivalry? Wrong. If we are supposedly the stronger of the two sexes, it should be understood by both genders that it is not OK to cross that line because nobody wants to get f’d up, especially women…he might be in the wrong for hitting u back, but now your whole fronts are gone out of your mouth and YOU gotta live with that…single. The game is a cold one.
No one is in favor of beating up women, but the situations you all listed are exactly the situations where I wouldnt necessarily beat a woman up but probably throw her the quitter just to disarm or disorient her for a moment if I wasn’t able to lock her in a closet or hold her down.
Another thing you didn’t mention is that just because someone is a woman doesnt mean they’re physically weak. I’m a slim dude with an affinity for women with some thickness on them…not fat just curvaceous. Some of the women I have dated might (might) have been able to give me a run for my money given the right advantage and anger level. Im quick with the hands but a haymaker from a thick girl can be equivalent to a fullblown man-punch so the playing field is not always tipped in the mans favor physically. They’re puttin hormones in Popeyes these days…chicks are getting brolic out here.
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T. Troy Stewart {July 9th, 2009 at 10:32 am}
@ShakaShawShow, I don’t mess with women who eat Church’s chicken for that very reason…mutant a$$ chicken
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ShakaShawShow {July 9th, 2009 at 10:37 am}
@T. Troy Stewart, LOL…I dont even know where a Churchs around me is lol…but its a gift and a curse…on one hand u get the added umph of a well-endowed female physique…on the other hand u got another person in the crib who could potentially DDT you when enraged.
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WuDaMan {July 9th, 2009 at 1:36 pm}
@ShakaShawShow,
bwuaahahahahaha @ brolic and DDT homie you got me LOL
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pgh muse {July 9th, 2009 at 10:53 am}
@ShakaShawShow, If we are supposedly the stronger of the two sexes, it should be understood by both genders that it is not OK to cross that line because nobody wants to get f’d up, especially women…
I think that most sane women are respectful of this. A lot of men don’t see that this gives them an added responsibility in the relationship as opposed to an advantage to exploit. But that’s because they haven’t been taught this, i’ll say in their defense.
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And the pic is hilarious…dude caught the public L. SMH
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Being from New Orleans, if you go to enough Mardi Gras parades you’ll see plenty of reasons to look away and whistle while a dude gets one or two licks in. The worst of which was at a parade where the chick had been up on her dude’s shoulders flashing the passing floats.
Since we were in a family-heavy area, a guy with his kids asked her to stop. She got off her man’s shoulders and proceeded to bark on the dad…even went so far as to push him. Her man pulled her back and she cursed him out for not defending her and then–get this–SPAT IN HIS FACE. Needless to say, he smacked her in the face (open hand) grabbed her by the wrist and dragged her out of there.
Now this girl was all types of wrong and I honestly believe that her man did the right thing because if he wouldn’t have hit her someone else would have. Guy/girl fisticuffs is “always” wrong, but if a man hits a woman to stop a situation from escalating, isn’t that less wrong?
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miss t-lee {July 9th, 2009 at 10:33 am}
@Sheffield Swats,
“SPAT IN HIS FACE”
See—now this has always been the ultimate sign of disrespect. I think I would try to take a nuh’s head off if this ever happened to me.
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 10:44 am}
@miss t-lee,
Say that. I’d rather be pnched in the head than spit on. We’re BOTH leaving bloody if I get spit on.
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miss t-lee {July 9th, 2009 at 10:48 am}
@Me fail english?,
*slow singing and flower bringing*
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BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 1:20 pm}
@miss t-lee,
afta tha spit in tha face i woulda abandond that bish and Lt. ditch a bish woulda struck again
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T. Troy Stewart {July 9th, 2009 at 10:33 am}
@Sheffield Swats, oh don’t ever spit in my face…somebody has to go!
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ShakaShawShow {July 9th, 2009 at 10:35 am}
@Sheffield Swats, I would slap anybody I know for spitting in somebodys face while with me and representing me, man or woman.
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K to the... {July 9th, 2009 at 10:36 am}
@Sheffield Swats,
Dang, that’s like watching a little kid get beat in the store for acking a fool! At which parade this occurrence, well…occur? It was no drama where I was.
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Sheffield Swats {July 9th, 2009 at 10:41 am}
@K to the…, it was at Endymion, early on the parade route (back in the pre-K days when they still did the full route).
And yes, she spit dead in his face, after disrespecting another man who was with his kids. She had to go because somebody was gonna wind up on her. Better to be hit by someone you know than a stranger, I guess.
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Cheekie {July 9th, 2009 at 10:38 am}
@Sheffield Swats,
“Her man pulled her back and she cursed him out for not defending her and then–get this–SPAT IN HIS FACE. ”
Mmm, yeah, ultimate sign of disrespect. Just ask
Joe Camel Lamb ChopNew York. I can’t say that someone spitting in your face WON’T warrant an instinctual mollywop about the face. Like has already been said above…a lot of retaliation is instinct. Of which you can’t rationalize or help.Reply
Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 11:14 am}
@Sheffield Swats, so i guess we’re in agreeance that spitting in the face is reason enough to womp womp anybody, eh?
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 11:28 am}
@Panama Jackson,
LOL. I think the animal just came out of all teh VSSs and VSBs. There must be smthg interesting psychologically going on here.
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Having been there and done that, I feel that men who hit women ALREADY have anger management issues. You don’t have to push their buttons really. It’s hard to push a button that has already been pushed.They make up reasons in their mind to be abusive.
If a woman does hit a man, I’m not sure why it is justified that she get hit back. I’m not saying she is right for doing it. When do 2 wrongs ever make a right?
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ShakaShawShow {July 9th, 2009 at 10:34 am}
@Ivy St….when mothers teach their daughters that no man should ever put their hands on them, they should also be teaching the young lady to not take it there either. Bottom line is nobody should be hitting anyone as an adult. I think the blog was more about self-defense than anything else…regular guys w/o anger mgmt issues being pushed to the edge by physical abuse and threats on their lives…pretty extreme…as the blog said this isnt to justify hitting women…its more of a cautionary note for the women who think its ok to cross that line.
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Ivy St. {July 9th, 2009 at 11:44 am}
@ShakaShawShow,
“I think the blog was more about self-defense than anything else…regular guys w/o anger mgmt issues being pushed to the edge by physical abuse and threats on their lives…pretty extreme…as the blog said this isn’t to justify hitting women…its more of a cautionary note for the women who think its ok to cross that line.”
I agree women should never hit men. I just feel like if a man is a gentleman he will be a gentleman. He’s not going to let some ignorant woman provoke him. If he needs self-defense, he should keep it movin! I doubt there is anything I could ever do to provoke my man to hit me. It’s just not in him and I can respect that. I don’t think hitting a woman because she hit you is in everybody to do. With that said, i think most of the time there has to be an underlying issue.
I’m fully aware of what the blog was about. This is just what I had to say on the matter (more like this is what I was thinking and wanted to share), instead of repeating or agreeing with what everyone else higher in the thread wrote. I’m sure Panema and Champ won’t mind if I step outside of the topic some.
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Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 1:19 pm}
@Ivy St., you stay spelling my name Panema. are you trying to subconsciously get me to spell my name different?
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Ivy St. {July 9th, 2009 at 1:33 pm}
@Panama Jackson,
I think I like it spelled that way better for some odd reason. The building across the street from one of my favorite local places to eat is called Panema. Sorry.
pgh muse {July 9th, 2009 at 10:39 am}
@Ivy St., I feel that men who hit women ALREADY have anger management issues.
Good point!
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kamakula {July 9th, 2009 at 10:39 am}
@Ivy St.,
I don’t think it is immediately justified. I think most of us take these on a case by case basis with analysis of the intent, potential for significant harm, location, and scenario in our minds.
So, if a guy is hitting a woman after first being hit by her, you can be sure in most cases, a lot more thought and deliberation went into that decision than hers.
I don’t know about women, but when I decide to use force, it is my intention to end things quickly and use no more force than is necessary to secure my objective. So, most of the time (since high school) that I’m raising my hand to hit someone (that was not in some sort of playful manner), there has not been a need for a follow up.
The only women I’ve seen apply this principle have been mom’s out in public. You recognize such because half the time, they don’t even have to administer the blow.
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ShakaShawShow {July 9th, 2009 at 10:58 am}
@kamakula, no violence is justified ever…no adult should ever hit an adult unless their life, lives of friends & family or physical well being is in danger…hitting just out of anger or not being able to prove one’s point like a grown-up is inexcusable so the first blow, whether well thought out or not, nis totally out of pocket. High school should have been where the raising of the hand ended.
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pgh muse {July 9th, 2009 at 11:56 am}
@ShakaShawShow, I will agree that violence shouldn’t happen, Shaka, but there are people in the world who respect nothing less than violence. It’s a sad but true fact. If you are confronted w/ a person like this I say you get ur pray on or whatever then be prepared to take it to the streets.
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 12:14 pm}
@pgh muse,
Yeah. Its like when youread the Bible and you wanna do what you read in the book. And the you go out into the real world and realize you can survive doing only like half of this stuff. At least that’s how I feel
Sula {July 9th, 2009 at 1:01 pm}
@pgh muse,
there are people in the world who respect nothing less than violence
and if we are people that are not like that, we shouldn’t have those people in our lives or rather work actively to remove those people from our lives.
Nobody is worth me getting jail time… EVER!
Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 1:13 pm}
@Sula,
I hear ya Sula. Its just easier said than done sometimes. If money keeps you in a certain neighborhood, or you have certain family, things can get rather funky.
ESQuared {July 9th, 2009 at 10:42 am}
my theory is this. if you hit me like a man you deserve to be hit like a man. Their are different types of punches in martial arts and the general rules apply .
A slap is an emotional response in most cases, thus the long pause after it happens (unless dude is dog chyt crazy from the gate). A punch however is something different, its meant to hurt it comes from rage (not suprise or confusion) and its meant to be destructive not just “hurt”.
I think some things in life fall under the eye for an eye thing. This is one of them. (but an eye for an eye means just that you give what you get, you dont escalate and try to take her outside and make her “bite the curb”)
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I agree with Panama. In general men shouldn’t hit women, but when you pull a weapon be prepared for the man to defend himself. And let’s not forget that men aren’t always bigger than the woman they’re with! Maybe it’s just in the south, but there are a lot of men out there who like ‘em big boned. ..
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miss t-lee {July 9th, 2009 at 10:52 am}
@BrownBelle,
“Maybe it’s just in the south, but there are a lot of men out there who like ‘em big boned. ..”
…and I thank them for that.
It’s not just the South…btw…lol
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to PJ’s point about pulling out a weapon,
My daddy taught me (when he was teaching me self defense) NEVER pull out a weapon unless you are prepared to use it to KILL someone, because if you don’t you will only make them angry enough to do you in and sometimes with your own weapon. I know how to use a weapon, and I will wait till you asleep. I’m patient and sh*t
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T. Troy Stewart {July 9th, 2009 at 10:50 am}
@Intellectual Hedonist, yeah, Air Mc “Fill’em Fulla Lead” Nair their arse! Full Force get busy one time!
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Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 11:15 am}
@T. Troy Stewart, too soon. lol. TOO SOON!
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T. Troy Stewart {July 9th, 2009 at 11:49 am}
@Panama Jackson, no kidding, I referred to the girl friend as “The Persian Gulp” and folx got mad and started calling me an insensitive racist.
I told them that’s not true…it’s not like I went to Michael Jackson’s funeral and Twitter’d about it and took cam shots with my phone like Diddy and Barbaba Walters did.
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miss t-lee {July 9th, 2009 at 11:55 am}
@T. Troy Stewart,
I referred to the girl friend as “The Persian Gulp”
Oh wow.
T. Troy Stewart {July 9th, 2009 at 12:09 pm}
@miss t-lee, aww don’t you get all politically correct on me, missy…
miss t-lee {July 9th, 2009 at 12:13 pm}
@T. Troy Stewart,
Maybe next week I can crack jokes with ya…
Seriously…I was a McNair fan, he played for my favorite home state team before they moved to TN, so I’m still a bit perturbed.
T. Troy Stewart {July 9th, 2009 at 12:21 pm}
@miss t-lee, I understand, if somebody came up in here right now and started making Walter Payton liver jokes, I would curl up in the fetal position and bawl like a small child that just got hit in the ding ding for first time…
Intellectual Hedonist {July 9th, 2009 at 1:14 pm}
@T. Troy Stewart, “I understand, if somebody came up in here right now and started making Walter Payton liver jokes, I would curl up in the fetal position and bawl like a small child that just got hit in the ding ding for first time…”
I think I need a depends
miss t-lee {July 9th, 2009 at 1:20 pm}
@T. Troy Stewart,
Glad we understand each other…lmao!!!
Sula {July 9th, 2009 at 1:13 pm}
@Intellectual Hedonist,
Your daddy is a wise man.
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WuDaMan {July 9th, 2009 at 1:53 pm}
@Sula,
Cuz errbody knows if you leave an enimy breathing trust and believe he’s gonna come back to take your breath.
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I don’t care who’s wrong or right
I don’t really wanna fight no more (Too much talking babe)
Let’s sleep on it tonight
I don’t really wanna fight no more (Tired of all these games)
But baby don’t you know
That I don’t wanna hurt no more (It’s time, I’m walking babe)
Don’t care now who’s to blame
I don’t really wanna fight no more (This is time for letting go)
Tina’s right! (specially since she got the last shots in, hell’s yeah…quit while you’re ahead)
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Ya know, this post is weird and cosmic timing because yesterday I had this odd dream that I was over my sister’s house and a bunch of ninjas were hanging out in the front yard with my cousins and ‘nem. Anyhow, I looked out the window (I’m on the 2nd floor…it’s a two flat…I’m trying to give ya’ll a visual pic) and start talkin ish in a playful way. Long dream short, the playfulness got ugly. I said some comment (I forget what) that apparently offended one of the random ninjas I didnt know and all of a sudden there was a close up of his smile that dropped to a frown. Seriously, it was like the movies…it was an extreme close up…like you could see his sweat…must have been an HD dream.
Anyhow, harsh words go back and forth (I call him a B, he calls he God knows what) and next thing I know, he’s walking back home screaming he’ll “see me on 79th”. Ya know, throwin’ threats and what not. He basically put out a hit on me.
I woke up afraid for my life…paranoid that I now had an enemy. But, then it took me 1 second to realize it was just a dream.
Yeah, well, that punk is lucky I woke up. *puffs up chest*
So, today’s topic brings me to question…had this dream continued (ya know, it’s just like dreams to leave off in cliffhangers. *shakes fist*), would he have been justified in carrying out his threat? I mean, it’s not like I threw a katana at his eye.
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T. Troy Stewart {July 9th, 2009 at 11:00 am}
@Cheekie, are you from Chicago?
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Cheekie {July 9th, 2009 at 11:19 am}
@T. Troy Stewart,
Why, yes. Yes, I am. I’m still here, too.
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T. Troy Stewart {July 9th, 2009 at 11:43 am}
@Cheekie, hmmm…first the green kool-aid thing and now the same hometown…
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Cheekie {July 9th, 2009 at 12:08 pm}
@T. Troy Stewart,
Could it be…fate? The world may never know.
T. Troy Stewart {July 9th, 2009 at 12:24 pm}
@Cheekie, you ever seen Blazing Saddles?
Cheekie {July 9th, 2009 at 1:07 pm}
@T. Troy,
“you ever seen Blazing Saddles?”
Yup. Only once, though. I remember laughing, but that’s about it. In fact, you made me want to see it again.
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T. Troy Stewart {July 9th, 2009 at 2:45 pm}
@Cheekie, oh you must, you must. flicks like THE HANGOVER wish they could get away with the things that Mel Brooks and Richard Pryor did in that classic.
Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 11:17 am}
@Cheekie, you shoulda thrown a katana in his eye. i think whatever happens in your dreams is completely justified.
as long as your not schlumping animals.
cuz thats just weird.
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Cheekie {July 9th, 2009 at 11:20 am}
@Panama Jackson,
“as long as your not schlumping animals.
cuz thats just weird.”
Yes, very weird. And probably very Freudian.
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 11:25 am}
@Cheekie,
“Yeah, well, that punk is lucky I woke up. *puffs up chest*”
Sho ya right
lol. That’s the problem wit hood ninjas. They wanna fight about anything. I remember I said NYC has better shopping than Philly and this dude wanted to duff me. And then tried to talk to me like 15 minutes later. Is this what passes for romance? lol
Other things men have wanted to beat me up over:
- Saying Master P is NOT a blood.
-Pronouncing Calliope “kuh-LY-oh-pee” rather than “cal-EE-ope”
-Rolling my eyes cuz the Burger King line wasnt moving. He was NOT one of the workers
Which reminds me. Some men will try to intimidate women just because they know they’re stronger and can be bullies. I know you’re stronger too. I’ll play my position cuz I dont wanna get punched in the face. But don’t take that shet too far and push me over the edge. I’ve been known to lose my shet and stop caring how strong a ninja is. And I dont fight fair, I dont embarrass easily and I NEVER get tired. SURPRISE!
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Cheekie {July 9th, 2009 at 11:33 am}
@Me fail english?,
“I remember I said NYC has better shopping than Philly and this dude wanted to duff me. And then tried to talk to me like 15 minutes later. Is this what passes for romance? lol”
He was trippin’ over SHOPPING?! Suss!
“And I dont fight fair, I dont embarrass easily and I NEVER get tired.”
Endurance is God’s gift to thugs.
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miss t-lee {July 9th, 2009 at 11:37 am}
@Me fail english?,
-Pronouncing Calliope “kuh-LY-oh-pee” rather than “cal-EE-ope”
Wow…this nuh was clearly certifiable.
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 1:45 pm}
@miss t-lee,
That was the same dude who said Master P is a blood. Based on what…nevermind
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miss t-lee {July 9th, 2009 at 1:48 pm}
@Me fail english?,
LOL!!!
Yeah…don’t even try to make sense of tha ish…
T. Troy Stewart {July 9th, 2009 at 11:46 am}
@Me fail english?, you seem so nice on the screen, doe…
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Cheekie {July 9th, 2009 at 12:09 pm}
@T. Troy Stewart,
me fail is nice, but I can also tell she’s a firecracker. lol
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T. Troy Stewart {July 9th, 2009 at 12:18 pm}
@Cheekie, I’m beginning to wonder about some of y’all LOL, you wanting to whoop up somebody in a dream and Champ and his Philly strippers with minature baseball bat stories LOL
Cheekie {July 9th, 2009 at 1:04 pm}
@T. Troy,
Yeah…I’ve noticed we’re all are very, um…eccentric. And smart.
Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 12:11 pm}
@T. Troy Stewart,
Im very nice! I honestly get picked on.
Bubbly ppl + growing up in the hood= easy target
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T. Troy Stewart {July 9th, 2009 at 12:17 pm}
@Me fail english?, I feel your pain…I’m a straight man who’s favorite movie of all time is WEST SIDE STORY…
Cheekie {July 9th, 2009 at 12:21 pm}
@Me fail english?,
“Bubbly ppl + growing up in the hood= easy target”
Yeah, for real. Ninjas in the hood got their perma mean-mug on all, “WTF you happy fuh (for)? Ain’t nuthin’ to be happy about”.
pgh muse {July 9th, 2009 at 12:12 pm}
@Me fail english?, This is so serious. I don’t really think that the “Nice” guys on VSB really know that most young women are at war on a daily basis. Young women are usually the targets – like 13 – early 2o’s… cause when a woman gets older she’s lost her innocence and her fear and doesn’t play that sh*t… but this is very real. And men wonder why women are bitter?? Because grown MEN are terrorize young women and girls.
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N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall.... {July 9th, 2009 at 12:45 pm}
@pgh muse,
exactly. i know i’m an angry broad every day of the week, and it stems from shyt i had to deal with as soon as i started developing. men do shyt to push women, to prove their dominance over women, whether it be physical dominance or sexual dominance, and they expect women to never get angry enough, never get tired enough of this shyt do some serious damage. i usually roll my eyes at my comp when i read all of these VSBs talking…they have no phucking clue, and as men, i don’t think they really want to know….
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Cheekie {July 9th, 2009 at 1:22 pm}
@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….,
“they have no phucking clue, and as men, i don’t think they really want to know….”
Oh, they definitely don’t wanna know. It effs with their ideal image of us, I guess. *major eye roll*
Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 1:11 pm}
@pgh muse & N.I.A.,
This is why I advocate for everybody spending at least a few formative years in the ghetto (not seriously, lol…but maybe). I feel like ppl live in a bubble as far as what we’re up against. I dont know, I just feel like men try to intimidate womenf far more often than women try to get their rocks off with impunity. Maybe my experience is the exception tho.
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N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall.... {July 9th, 2009 at 2:12 pm}
@Me fail english?,
your experience is not the exception. and it’s not just the ghetto. i grew up in rural SC, and i ran into some of the same issues. sometimes, i still do….
it’s like a jungle, sometimes it makes me wonder how i keep from going under….
Sula {July 9th, 2009 at 1:29 pm}
@pgh muse,
most young women are at war on a daily basis.
e-twin darling, today is just not our day, is it?
I am not blaming the victims here, I am blaming the mothers of those victims. We shouldn’t let our daughters engage in relationships with dysfunctional mofos (the mofos Me Fail talked about are obviously dysfunctional)… The problem it’s hard to do if WE as women don’t even know what dysfunction is and how to avoid it.
It’s a real problem, but we need to minimize the consequences. I will repeat to my daughters what my female kin has taught me: get as far away from potential physical harm as possible because someone being sorry will not remove the stitches on your face.
Maybe because I come from a deathly patriarchal society where even courts will tell you that men are always right and poor rape victims will not get acquittal based on the simple fact that she walked into the guy’s room. I mean the sh!t is backwards as hell, so I friggin’ have to self-preserve as I have been taught to. There is nobody who will come to your rescue if a man hits you… not even the friggin’ law (and I am working tooth and nails to get that changed) BUT self-preservation has prevented me from being in situations where that stuff could happen.
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Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 4:27 pm}
@pgh muse, gonna have to go ahead and pump your brakes for you. if you think being a young woman is hard, try being a very smart, slightly nerdy young Black male who lives in a less than desirable neighborhood who likes reading the encylopedia.
hell it can suck now. at least as a woman your gangsta isn’t beint tested on a daily basis by somebody who thinks you forgot where you come from.
just saying being a very smart NEGRO can be a very difficult task growing up depending on where you live.
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pgh muse {July 9th, 2009 at 5:43 pm}
@Panama Jackson, I agree with that too. Believe me I do. I feel for all of us who aren’t allowed to be free.
Putting aside physicality for a second:
Ladies…
We generally understand y’all fight with your mouths.
What’s up with the extremely mean greasiness y’all put on it? The lowest of words towards all of the man that you supposedly love? Y’all can say some foul *ss shet that make being called a booch by a man seem like praise. As it is, y’all talk to us any kind of way when it’s NOT a fight!
What excuse do ladies have for that verbal abuse? What y’all got for us, any tips?
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Cheekie {July 9th, 2009 at 11:28 am}
@Stuff Ghetto People Like,
We just know how to cut with words. Ya’ll always say we talk too much, so it shouldn’t be no surprise that we are mastahs of verbal jousting.
And “booch”? LMAO.
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 11:41 am}
@Stuff Ghetto People Like,
lol@ booch.
No excuses. Once upon a time I had a pretty sharp tongue. I was just an angry person in general at that point in my life. I had an extremely patient bf that didnt fight fire with fire (like my Dad did) and didnt wanna punch me in de mouf (like ninjas on the street wanted to) but just explained to me very maturely what a coward and an arsehole I was for intentionally inflicting that kinda hurt on ANYONE. Much less someone who’s had my back so long.
If she’s a real human, she will feel 3 inches tall at that point and begin working to cut the BUllshet.
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BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 1:24 pm}
@Stuff Ghetto People Like,
boooch dam dawg thas wuz up you from cali?
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K to the... {July 9th, 2009 at 4:10 pm}
@Stuff Ghetto People Like,
I, for one, don’t resort to verbal abuse. My nonverbal speaks way louder than my verbal. Side eye of death…raised eyebrow of kucf off…it’s nothing son!
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nothing new to add, but i did want to address a latent point found in a few of the comments.
outside of a stray elbow i might have caught playing ball, the hardest i’ve ever been hit was by my 8 year old cousin 3 years ago. before he started his extensive medication a couple years ago, he was firmly entrenched in a “sucker punch people in the face” phase. that lil n*gga caught me while i was sitting on the couch watching cheers, and it felt like someone hit me with one of those miniature wooden baseball bats philly strippers use.
point being, regardless of how big someone might be, getting hit in the face f*cking hurts. its wrong to assume that theres a automatic correlation between size and pain tolerance and that its easy to just shrug that sh*t off.
trust me, if you punch shaq squarely in the nose his eyes will swell up and water just as quickly as lil mama’s would.
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T. Troy Stewart {July 9th, 2009 at 11:53 am}
@The Champ, I’m sorry but I laughed at “while watching Cheers” and I was going to ask how do you know what Philly strippers use but, I don’t think I need to know…
how old is Lil Mama, exactly…she looks like the end result of mixing JoJo’s DNA with Miss Jane Pittman’s.
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T. Troy Stewart {July 9th, 2009 at 11:55 am}
@T. Troy Stewart, and I’m still lol at Shaunie making Shaq cry when he found out how she Ocean 11′d his checking account and had a house and a side ninja on his dime…the big lummox
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Cheekie {July 9th, 2009 at 1:01 pm}
@T. Troy Stewart,
Off topic: I agree with whomever (I think it was BBMo) who said you are channeling WudaMan with your posts. The replying to yourself and multiple threads thang, I mean. lol
Yeah, yeah, I know…it’s our fault.
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T. Troy Stewart {July 9th, 2009 at 2:41 pm}
@Cheekie, I keep forgetting to change my name in the replies lol…
and I am now blaming Twitter for my constant rambling.
The Champ {July 9th, 2009 at 1:45 pm}
@T. Troy Stewart,
im just happy you used “ocean’s 11″ as an action verb.
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T. Troy Stewart {July 9th, 2009 at 2:43 pm}
@The Champ, thanks, I wish I could work in words like “deumoflacche” and “brazzier” into more convo…
Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 12:04 pm}
@The Champ,
“miniature wooden baseball bats philly strippers use”
I learned more about you with this post than I have in all my time at VSB. Thanks.
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The Champ {July 9th, 2009 at 1:55 pm}
@Me fail english?,
thank deez
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 2:17 pm}
@The Champ,
Thank deez in ya mouf!
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The BDay GEM {July 9th, 2009 at 12:06 pm}
@The Champ,
come on are you kidding me?!?!?!?! i seriously DOUBT anybody is arguing that smaller ppl can’t cause pain– i haven’t read that anywhere. but when the bigger person fights back, it’s NOT a fair fight becuz that bigger person is likely to cause bigger damage.
really the argument is more over self defense vs. aggravated assault.
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 12:08 pm}
@The BDay GEM,
Yeah I didnt read any comments that way either. Shaq damage > than 8 year old Champ-oid damage
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Cheekie {July 9th, 2009 at 12:12 pm}
@The BDay GEM,
Yeah, I think Champie is reversing the argument. It’s not so much that small people can’t cause pain to the bigger person, it’s that the smaller person is gonna feel MORE pain from the bigger person.
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N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall.... {July 9th, 2009 at 12:33 pm}
@Cheekie,
exactly
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 12:36 pm}
@Cheekie,
…and get more ribs broke…and blood vessels burst…and teeth missing, etc.
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Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 1:23 pm}
@The BDay GEM, though i realize your point, i wonder if this counts for man on man fights too.
so if 5′10, 150 pound cats socks a 6′4 230 dude in the jaw…the big dude should just let it ride cuz he can do more damage?
or is it b/c they’re both men then you shouldnt bite off more than you can chew?
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Cheekie {July 9th, 2009 at 1:28 pm}
@Panama Jackson,
“so if 5′10, 150 pound cats socks a 6′4 230 dude in the jaw…the big dude should just let it ride cuz he can do more damage?”
Well we were taught to “pick on someone your own size” so maybe you’d look like a punk for beating on a pint-sized poindexter? Or you’ll look like a punk for walking away (ya’ll know your egos are too big and too wide). Guess depends on what kinda punk you wanna look like. Lose-Lose. lol
But if you choose the latter option and their’s a sweet grandma witnessing the exchange, she might think you’re a sweet boy and introduce you to her hot granddaughter.
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Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 4:29 pm}
@Cheekie, you mean the hot granddaughter with a nice personality? (read: one who nobody else wants to play with?)
Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 1:42 pm}
@Panama Jackson,
Perhaps Im assuming too much, but I feel like the 6′4″ dude should try not to pummel dude…if he can help it (which he very well may not be able to).
Last year there were these college kids in a bar. Somehow a 5′nothing guy winds up brain-damaged in the hospital after an altercation with this big ass Serbian basketball player. The player and his friends’ defense was, the little guy started the fight. I thought that either way, 6′million should have shown some restraint
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BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 1:56 pm}
@Panama Jackson,
men vrs men dont matter as long as they grown they can get it
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The Champ {July 9th, 2009 at 1:59 pm}
@BLUNTBLAZER,
as long as they grown they can get it
this sounds like something r. kelly would say, only the exact opposite
The Champ {July 9th, 2009 at 1:54 pm}
@The BDay GEM,
come on are you kidding me?!?!?!?! i seriously DOUBT anybody is arguing that smaller ppl can’t cause pain– i haven’t read that anywhere.
no one has explicitly argued this, but in a few of the comments, you get the idea that the commentator thinks that the bigger (physically) you are, the more you should be able to just take pain.
im not suggesting that physically stronger people don’t have an advantage when it comes to fighting. im just saying that the “oh, (s)he’s big as hell. (s)he can take it.” idea influences the way alot us look at conflict, violent or non-violent, and thats a faulty (and dangerous) way of viewing things.
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Cheekie {July 9th, 2009 at 1:59 pm}
@The Champ,
“im not suggesting that physically stronger people don’t have an advantage when it comes to fighting. im just saying that the “oh, (s)he’s big as hell. (s)he can take it.” idea influences the way alot us look at conflict, violent or non-violent, and thats a faulty (and dangerous) way of viewing things.”
Yeah, that’s probably true. The bigger person may be able to knock the holy ghost outta the smaller person, but the smaller person can give the bigger person a paper cut and big or not…that ish HURTS.
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BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 1:25 pm}
@The Champ,
thast wha you get for watchin cheers lololol
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Intellectual Hedonist {July 9th, 2009 at 1:27 pm}
@The Champ, you know whats interesting about your story? Nothing.
My 2 year old nephew is going through his BAM BAM stage and recently realized his 8 year old sister will not hit him back (well the other day not so), so he caught her while she was engrossed in the tv, knocked her good too, right out her chair, she landed a good 3 feet away. She in turned mushed him so hard that he fell back on his diaper about equally as far and into the couch, it really startled him. Her mom turned to both of them (trying not to laugh) and said to her “J, good for you that you finally stand up for yourself” , then said to the both of them “neither of you should be hitting the other, but especially if you cant take the retaliation”. BTW my two year old got a timeout… end of story
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The Champ {July 9th, 2009 at 1:57 pm}
@Intellectual Hedonist,
your stories suck
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Intellectual Hedonist {July 9th, 2009 at 2:03 pm}
@The Champ, suck THIS
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Cheekie {July 9th, 2009 at 2:05 pm}
@The Champ,
Champs, you know you’re just asking for probably the most obvious variation of a “deez” response with what you said above, right? You asked for it. lol
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Cheekie {July 9th, 2009 at 2:08 pm}
*looks up at IH’s response that didn’t appear ’til after I posted*
My prediction has been validated (somewhat).
Intellectual Hedonist {July 9th, 2009 at 1:35 pm}
@The Champ, “miniature wooden baseball bats philly strippers use” me no know?
what? and How?
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Neva had a chick pull a knife or a gun on me. But I had thre very heated situations but i neva hit tha chick.
1) Break up with girl + girl doesnt wanna break up = girl feels like i was playing her the whole time.
Even tho girl already ran thru her 3strikes.
She decides that she is gonna get her gangster cousins to off me and tells them this crazy lie that I beat her up blah blah blah. Ninjaz callin my phone like crazy threatin me. Girl callin my phone threatinin me. I go see the big homie gangsta tell him was up he calls the girl’s gangsta patnas tell them tha real and deadins tha whole thang. This makes girl extra mad so she decides she is gonna off me herself. She knew where I lived and her her and her chick circle my block. Long story short I got a restrainin order on that broad and had to sleep in my nikes with my dirty harry under tha matress for a week. ps: tha same chick still got my ugk double disc cd
-but i neva hit her
2) I drop son off at his moms house + son’s mom wants to talk/try ta get back with me/gett a noon-er= me leaving cause i been thru with tha broad for years now
-She gets mad fallows me out of her house talkin bout naw you aint leavin we gotta talk Im like call me later gotta go to work. She says f- it ima sue you for child support and you gone neva see ya kid. I say do wha ya gotta do and get in my car and start the engine. She gets hella pissed and starts kickin tha shi outa my car. *MEN LOVE OUR CARS* Im like is she serious plus my son lookin out the window seein erythang and she keep kickin it talkin bout get the f out. I get so pissed I hop out the the car like TOO SHORT and say BIIIATSH and start walkin towards her cause im bout ta choke the shi outa this bish. Then i snapp outa it she runs in the house I see all her neighbors came outside i hop back in my whip and smash out.
-but i neva hit her
Pops always told me run from a woman be a punk You dont wanna go to jail for beatin up a woman they dont treat those guys to good.
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 12:06 pm}
@BLUNTBLAZER,
Good stuff. I salute you sir.
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miss t-lee {July 9th, 2009 at 12:09 pm}
@BLUNTBLAZER,
“tha same chick still got my ugk double disc cd”
Oh heyll naw!!!
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BLUNTBLAZER {July 9th, 2009 at 1:28 pm}
@miss t-lee,
i been replaced it but I think that was dirty. this is the same chick that said dont trip cause the make up sex is gonna be hella nice. smh.
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 1:37 pm}
@miss t-lee,
lol. I think T-Lee mighta cut a dude for this cardinal sin
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miss t-lee {July 9th, 2009 at 1:41 pm}
@Me fail english?,
*chuckling*
I’m serious about my music, but not that serious.
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T. Troy Stewart {July 9th, 2009 at 12:13 pm}
@BLUNTBLAZER, oooh I don’t want to start telling my GIRL, YOU DONE GONE WILD stories…
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I would never initiate a Jazmine Sullivan situation. I’m saying i may become her if pushed then imma walk away and cool down.
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Cheekie {July 9th, 2009 at 12:57 pm}
@Nola Darling,
Yeah, the quote, “I’m not a killer, but don’t push me” comes to mind. lol
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I was trying to comment on a post not create a new one. Im o a blackberry. What step did I miss?
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Rule of Thumb: Keep hands, feet and all other objects to yourself…well except the good parts. ;o)
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Sula {July 9th, 2009 at 2:01 pm}
@This Just In…Like Beyonce..Like Trinaaaaaaahhh,
Amen.
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miss t-lee {July 9th, 2009 at 2:05 pm}
@This Just In…Like Beyonce..Like Trinaaaaaaahhh,
I love your s/n btw…lol
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I read the title of the post in my email & thought PeeJay was over here talkin’ ish about my kids, so I ran right over here w/fire in my belly. Luckily…he is still of sound mind.
Anyways, there are men that piss me off so much that I imagine kickin’ their a$$. Then I start thinking so little of them that I think I can kick their a$$ and I want to do it. That is ALWAYS my clue to completely separate myself from that particular man. No matter how mad I get or how much of a punk I think I am, my father taught me to NEVER act like you’re gonna come all hard at a man because as a woman, you aren’t built to be able to beat him. And depending on how grimey of a dude he is, he may beat you down hard just for having the thought.
So yeah, it ain’t about whether or not there is a reason. Of course there’s a reason. It’s about the quality of people involved and what kind of decisions they make.
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Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 1:31 pm}
@PBG, I read the title of the post in my email & thought PeeJay was over here talkin’ ish about my kids, so I ran right over here w/fire in my belly. Luckily…he is still of sound mind.
im always of sound mind. sometimes you other people just dont recognize these things.
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This has probably been said already, but anyway I’ll say this.
If you are ever in a situation that you feel the need to put hands on a woman/man, you have went too far anyway. If you have a chick/dude that will pull a gun/knife on you, you knew they would well before it actually happened. You should have excuse yourself from that relationship a long time ago. I’m not saying you don’t have the right to defend yourself, but you wouldn’t have had that problem if you thought this relationship out ahead of time.
If I go into a crack house with diamonds on and I get robbed. I have a right to defend myself, but at the same time everyone is going to look at me like, “Is this ninja crazy?”.
I liken this to the Steve Mcnair tragedy. I’m fully convinced based on Sahel actions that he was selling her a dream. She thought he was leaving his wife and that she was about to be the new chick in his life. That’s why she was trying to sell all he stuff on Craigslist and getting ready to move in to the love nest. But when his actions changed a week before and she had a “dream deffereed”, she bought that gun and said to herself…. “If this ninja don’t get right…I’mma fill him up with some hot sh!t.” So when he said no I’m not leaving my wife, now leave me a lone while I get some sleep. She pulled out the great equalizer and went to work.
In the words of Chris Rock, “I’m not saying she should of killed him, but I understand”.
Stay away from crazy people and you will never have to wonder whether it’s appropriate to put your hands on a man/woman.
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miss t-lee {July 9th, 2009 at 2:24 pm}
@Wood,
” I’m fully convinced based on Sahel actions that he was selling her a dream. ”
Sad, but true.
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Me fail english? {July 9th, 2009 at 2:42 pm}
@Wood,
All of this was on point, but…
“So when he said no I’m not leaving my wife, now leave me a lone while I get some sleep. She pulled out the great equalizer and went to work.”
…I nearly erupted into laughter. I know, I know, too soon. Me so solly!
I know I shouldnt feel bad for Sahel since she’s a murderer, but…
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Sula {July 9th, 2009 at 2:47 pm}
@Me fail english?,
I did laugh as well… and I am
not sosorry too.Reply
Wood {July 9th, 2009 at 3:03 pm}
@Me fail english?,
I won’t lie I giggled a little too as I wrote it. I’m so ashamed.
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N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall.... {July 9th, 2009 at 3:07 pm}
@Wood,
lol. i know i guffawed, and i don’t feel bad at all….
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Panama Jackson {July 9th, 2009 at 4:34 pm}
@Me fail english?, yeah, i cracked up too.
that’ll be two hail mary’s and a touchdown!
OUCH!
too soon. too soon!
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Sula {July 9th, 2009 at 2:45 pm}
@Wood,
Stay away from crazy people and you will never have to wonder whether it’s appropriate to put your hands on a man/woman.
Word. Life.
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overit? {July 9th, 2009 at 2:57 pm}
@Sula, Stay away from crazy people and you will never have to wonder whether it’s appropriate to put your hands on a man/woman.
full stop.
the rest of our time at work can be spent discussing anything we like, lol.
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Wood {July 9th, 2009 at 3:25 pm}
@Wood,
Sorry I meant to reply here….
Let me share a story related to this….
I own rental property. One day one of my tenants call me asking if I could remove his girlfriends name from the lease. I asked why and he said she stabbed him in the chest.
I was like no I can’t, but since she’s going to jail I guess we can cancel that lease and make a new one. (I know that’s horrible, but I like money).
So skip to the first of the month. Anyway I had to get my Mr. Bill Collector on. (shout out to Bone Thugs in Harmony)
And guess who I see boo’d up with him on the couch. I’m like seriously you didn’t learn anything from the last attempted murder? And I must admit I feared for my own safety. You just don’t go around canceling contracts with people that will rub you out. (shout out to old school Gangsters)
So anyway my point in all of this is. Sometimes you can get away from the crazy arse people and take your dumb arse back to them. Then in that situation I don’t think you should be able to put your hands on them because you wanted that mess.
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SouthernCharm {July 9th, 2009 at 3:32 pm}
@Wood,
Hilariousness!
Problem: My wife has told me, up front w/ a straight face, that if I cheat on her, she’ll cut me.
I’m not going to cheat on her and find out what she’ll do. Problem solved!
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Wood {July 9th, 2009 at 3:37 pm}
@SouthernCharm,
Done and Done
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I think that Liz summed it all up . I have to say though that I don’t subscribe to the theory that we as women-folk should be shielded from the consequences of our actions as if we were children. IMO, using battered women and the laws and systems to protect “us” from the consequences of our actions is contemptible. I have never been in an adult fight because (and I freely admit), I am the original 5 Star General Cowardice herself. I can’t hit for shyte and would hate to be hit. And as a tax payer, I say let the cops take the hits for me.
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I’m really surprised there is this much discussion over men hitting women. All I know is the one time a dude (who I have since visited in the small room with the white walls) completely pummeled my arse, lmao, my 4 brothers drew a lottery on who would kick his butt…they decided a team effort was apropos.
it really hasnt been an issue since, and that was in hs.
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Let me share a story related to this….
I own rental property. One day one of my tenants call me asking if I could remove his girlfriends name from the lease. I asked why and he said she stabbed him in the chest.
I was like no I can’t, but since she’s going to jail I guess we can cancel that lease and make a new one. (I know that’s horrible, but I like money).
So skip to the first of the month. Anyway I had to get my Mr. Bill Collector on. (shout out to Bone Thugs in Harmony)
And guess who I see boo’d up with him on the couch. I’m like seriously you didn’t learn anything from the last attempted murder? And I must admit I feared for my own safety. You just don’t go around canceling contracts with people that will rub you out. (shout out to old school Gangsters)
So anyway my point in all of this is. Sometimes you can get away from the crazy arse people and take your dumb arse back to them. Then in that situation I don’t think you should be able to put your hands on them because you wanted that mess.
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SouthernCharm {July 9th, 2009 at 3:19 pm}
@Wood,
Will Smith: YOU BROUGHT THAT ON YO’SELLLLLLLLF!
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SouthernCharm {July 9th, 2009 at 3:19 pm}
@Wood,
Will Smith: YOU BROUGHT THAT ON YO’SELLLLLLLLF!
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Hilariousness!
Problem: My wife has told me, up front w/ a straight face, that if I cheat on her, she’ll cut me.
I’m not going to cheat on her and find out what she’ll do. Problem solved!
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Why do women say there is never a reason for a man to hit a woman, but MOST of them will not say “There is never a reason for a woman to hit a man.”
That’s just illogical.
But, we are dealing with women.
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Wood {July 9th, 2009 at 4:47 pm}
@Big Man,
You just answered your own question.
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If a woman is brave enough to hit a man, then she should be brave enough to get hit back! Point blank.
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