The most difficult position to be in for any artist is for everybody to be paying attention to what you’re doing. In the hip-hop/R&B/Black music community, right now, Drake is that dude.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, I do not understand dude’s buzz. He’s a good rapper/singer combo guard, but I’m just not wowed. However, I have to come to homey’s defense right now since it seems like everybody and their mama is upset at young Drizzy for his video for “Best I Ever Had”.
(Video is most not-safe-for-work-safe-for-work video ever.)
I love this video, despite itself.
Huh?
Glad you asked.
In this Kanye West directed video there is basically no point. In fact, the video doesn’t seem to have much in the way of a story or concept (though Drake did his BEST to give a bogus concept explanation to Complex magazine). It seems the video’s main purpose was to show boobs-a-floppin’.
Glory day.
As soon as I saw the video I knew the sh*tstorm was coming. Let’s run down the “problems” with the video, shall we?
- all the chicks are lightskint
- all the chick’s boobs are on display, pretty much throughout the video
- lots of gratuitous stretching, Rosa Acosta style shots
- no real point to the video, period
– lots of chexual innuendo (“take the D”)
- like most Kanye West videos, the video doesn’t relate to the song whatsoever
That’s a lot of fodder for discussion, but none of that is a good reason for it to be catching flack – hell it’s the general outline for most of today’s videos. The reason he’s catching flack is this: it’s the video for “Best I Ever Had”, the song that makes most women love the Young Angel. With this one song, women everywhere who pretty much don’t care for most of today’s rap found the one man who acknowledged the ladies and put them on a pedestal even if in other songs he referencing women as ho*s.
That, and that alone is his biggest problem. Women have expectations for Drake. A while back I posited 10 reasons why women love Drake, and though I didn’t mention it, this song is largely the reason. Women decided that Drake was the respectful savior to today’s generally exploitation heavy hip-hop while forgetting one simple fact.
Drake is still a man.
(I actually think the video is semi-genius; make the music for the ladies but make the videos for the men. Great Gatsby!)
Once the video aired, many women were up in arms (I’ve stayed reading message boards about this because the response befuddles me, from women AND men). How could Drake make such an “ignorantly, exploitative video”? How come there are so many boobs? How come all the boob-ers are light skinned?
Aside: I’ve often wondered if Black women would feel better if the exploitation was more diverse? A lot of the arguments about videos is that all the women are light, ethnically ambiguous to white looking women. If they were all darkskint, would that be better? Is exploitation more palatable as long as everybody gets their shot to be exploited? Methinks not. Then again, I didn’t think Jodeci would end up on crack.
From an artistic standpoint, the video adds absolutely nothing to the song. In fact, the video just comes across as some sh*t they basically decided to do on a random Wednesday, and because they could, they called everybody they knew and just started rolling film with a bunch of litebrite models. No harm, no foul really. And if it was anybody but Drake, this video would probably be written off as just another video that does nothing more than exist. Kind of like a Plies video.
But this is Drake, hip-hop’s wunderkid. He’s making music women can enjoy and appreciate without feeling like they’re betraying the gender. He’s not supposed to be like every other rapper out there. He’s wheelchair Jimmy for goodness’ sake.
Great expectations.
Poor guy, really. First he gives a sh*tty performance on the national stage on BET, now he’s giving the boob treatment to his “respectful” chick song.
Oh well. Score one more for mankind. I personally don’t see the big deal. Rather, I wonder what people were expecting? Aside from this one song, most of his other songs fit right in with the “regular rapper mold”. Plus he runs with Lil Wayne and Kanye – proprietor of the “Throw Some D’s” remix aimed at D-cups, not Daytons.
Perhaps, I’m being shortsighted.
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Is the video backlash warranted?
-VSB P aka THE ARSONIST aka TANGLE JIG P aka GIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRL, HE A 3
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hmm I didnt think his explanation of the concept was bogus.. I mean thats what I got from watching it before I clicked to the article.
I mean, he got a lot of ho’s on his team and all of them the best.. bouncing boobs, running and stretching **tada**!!!
LOL I aint mad about it.. had you not posted the video it I would have never seen it anyway.. I mean I dont really watch music videos’ but that being said, I mean it aint the best but it definitely aint the worst….
hell I still havent seen the “turn my swag” on joint from Soulja Boy after all the ruckus it caused…I think I will you tube that one to and see what all the fuss is about..
people like to debate shyt and take a stand on bullshyt all the time.. this is nothing new, and when you have a lot of positive press and buzz you will get the negative.. eh..it happens
I need him to go on and make a vid for that “successful” joint..
thats my shyt…
my post is random as hell…LOL
@shay_d_lady, he REALLY needs to do a vid for “Sooner Than Later”…that would be the classique!
But it would also be kinda wild to make yet a second vid for a free *ss album…
@Stuff Ghetto People Like,
I think he and Lykke Li should make a vid for “Little Bit”.
That would be hot.
@miss t-lee, gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you there. i prefer the song and video in its original state, minus Drizzy.
@Panama Jackson,
Her whole album is hot though.
I like both versions.
@Stuff Ghetto People Like, He shoulda made a video for every song off that mixtape, except this one
i dont watch music videos so this is my very 1st time seeing this. i don’t have large breasts but flopping/bouncing unsecured breasts don’t seem attractive to me. granted, i still pray for bigger, fuller breasts (
nightlyoccasionally) but this vid made me think “ew is that what they’d look like in slow mo?? no thanks.” i’m not a dude or a dyke so i’m the vid clearly wasn’t made for ME…oh well. the more important issue is I’M CELEBRATING THE 26TH ANNIVERSARY OF MY MOTHER’S DECISION TO BIRTH ME!!!!!!! please see my e-mama (blackberry molasses) for an e-vite to the e-party.
lets get it crackin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@The BDay GEM,
Happy Birthday..!
@The BDay GEM, HAPPY BIRTHDAY GEM!!!!
@The BDay GEM,
Happy Birthday, GEM!!!!
@The BDay GEM,
Happy Born Day fam!
@The BDay GEM,
Happy Birfday to my e-child! Everybody can come over for Sweet Eats and Treats in honor of Gemmie Pie.
Luvvie… get on spray dance detail. She’s a broke grad student.
@blackberry molasses has to work today
,
LOL
@The BDay GEM,
Happy Birthday chick!
@The BDay GEM,
Happy Birthday, GEM!!! I remember when I was just a wee little 26 year old. Picture it, May 2008….
lol. have fun today, GEM!
@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….,
lmao @ “I remember when I was just a wee little 26 year old. Picture it, May 2008….”
thanks spel sis!
@The BDay GEM,
lol. i just realized i gave b-day greetings earlier this morning. it was obviously before i had my cheese grits and oj… not that juiceman
@The BDay GEM, Happy Bornday Gemmie
@The BDay GEM, happy b-day.
but how is your birthday more important than the sociological breakdown of the society’s socialization, huh?
lol. i wonder if that actually means anything.
@Panama Jackson,
is that your way of wishing me a happy birthday?? if so, thanks my fellow mixtie!!
@The BDay GEM, well yes, your birthday is the day of all things good.
and gooder.
@Panama Jackson,
@The BDay GEM
Happy birthday!
@The BDay GEM,
thanks for all the bday love my VSB fam!!!! ‘preciate the love (i need it today since i’m stuck at work!! *side eye*)
@The BDay GEM, Happy Birthday honey!
@The BDay GEM,
happy b-day and sh*t, and may your birthday be a very masculine birthday.
@The Champ,
LOL!
@The Champ,
why thank you Champikins.
@The BDay GEM,
Happy B-Day!!
@The BDay GEM, Happy Bday e-twin, mama bbmo and I got something special planned for you!!
@overit?,
i love me e-fam!!!!!!!! *hugs*
@overit?,
baby, remember there will be no Stanky Leggin’ in this danceree….
*whispers * and I booked King Britt to DJ
@blackberry molasses,
“there will be no Stanky Leggin’ in this danceree….”
Damn! *walks off downtrodden*
@Me fail english?,
okay, okay… ONE Stanky Legg allowed. Everybody gets ONE.
I tried to make some sense of the vid (Of course, I’m not too opposed to it because I’m a guy) and give Drake the benefit of the doubt. I tried to tie the song to the vid. But it’s impossible.
That’s where Drake lost it. His explanation sounded like something Sarah Palin might say. Really, though, I feel bad for him because it’s his first vid, and he was dumb enough to let Kanye direct it. The camerawork is crappy throughout.
But hey … that’s what you get.
The light/dark mess some women have sparked up is hilarious. I don’t get it at all.
@thismayconcernyou, u think the camerawork is bad? how so?
im just asking cuz when i was a wee tike i wanted to be the next little x, the next hype williams and i think for the most part kanye’s direction seems pretty standard fare: capture some bubbies bouncing and call it a day. I’m pretty sure I have seen much worse camerawork on BET UnCut….
@Liz,
Let’s just say it was unCut-ish … lol.
@thismayconcernyou,
“I tried to make some sense of the vid (Of course, I’m not too opposed to it because I’m a guy) and give Drake the benefit of the doubt. I tried to tie the song to the vid. But it’s impossible.”
I sorta like how he blended sports with sexay time (the sport was sort of a metaphor), but I think he sorta fell short on the follow through. I didn’t truly get it ’til the “take the D” line…I have an inclination as to where he was going, but I don’t think he got there. lol
@Cheekie,
“I didn’t truly get it ’til the “take the D” line…I have an inclination as to where he was going, but I don’t think he got there. lol”
Yeah, he was trying to hard with that line because it really makes no basketball sense.
I guess the sports angle was the only way he could tie-in the random stretching, even though I’ve never seen anyone do a split before they played basketball maybe they should’ve tried gymnastics.
The best line was “but Drake, all you taught us how to do is stretch” lmao!
Otherwise the video was bad simply because it took a lot of effort to do nothing, for all that he could’ve shown random chics in bikinis running (bouncing up and down) on the beach for 5 minutes it would’ve had the same effect.
@thismayconcernyou,
I think the cinematography is rather good. I especially liked the scene where the mascot dunks the ball and how it was captured. The eye-candy shots are done well and they really “sell” what the video is about. The entire slow motion feel of the video really pulls the viewer in to hang on each of the visuals also.
Job well done Kanye.
Before hearing the explanation, I thought the same thing Drake actually said. Really. That was my take on it from jump.
I think the criticism is boolsheet, but I’ll wait until I’m less than 4 sheets to the wind to give my response.
I’ll see you all in the morning when there’s like 70 responses at 7 AM.
P.S. Next time I hear another chick talkin that boolsheet about it being too many light skinned wazy haired chicks in the video, I’mm bring up the fact that it ain’t been a regular light skint leading dude since the S-Curl went out. All y’all wanted for yeears was “tall dark and handsome”… So if yall can have y’all way, gimme my Brazilian yoga instructors doing vertical hurdler stretches while the Puerto Rican/Italian/Colombiana mix holds her legs firmly. Thank you, Drake.
@Dante_Alexander, Before hearing the explanation, I thought the same thing Drake actually said. Really. That was my take on it from jump.
me too
@Dante_Alexander, Thank you, Drake.
that pretty much sums up my entire opinion on the video, actually.
As a well endowed former women’s basketball player i don’t take great offense to the video. Mostly because I know this is c learly fantasy. There is NO WAY any chick with that much boobage could play GOOD basketball and wear them skimpy tops. NO WAY. You can’t play any good D like that. You ain’t takin nobody to the basket with all that flip floppin around like that. This explains the need to have this video in slow mo AND have a bunch of sucky players because in regular play it woudl look a hot mess and in regular play in these outfits there is no winning. Or at least, not as nice as it looks in slow mo. I just think Kanye was lookin for something to spend money on and he thought hey why not some big boobs playing basketball, end of story.
Drake, I am not that huge a fan of. Yeah I like half his mixtape. I have another mixtape of his but am not interested in listening to it. I see right through his lil babyface nice guy shenanigans too. He ain’t foolin me.
@Liz, (after reading the 8-word start of your reply)
Damn you for moving to NYC.
That is all.
@Stuff Ghetto People Like, LOL!
@Liz,
“There is NO WAY any chick with that much boobage could play GOOD basketball ”
Well that’s why they lost.
@Me fail english?, naw, they lost cuz all they could do was stretch.
and they were shorter en masse than the other team.
and Drake was their coach.
and his best advice (which is actually pretty good advice if you think about it) was to take that D.
so i guess the better question is…
…how in the flying F*CK did they get to the championship game in the first place?
how come nobody’s asking THAT question?
@Panama Jackson,
…how in the flying F*CK did they get to the championship game in the first place?
how come nobody’s asking THAT question?
good point.
@Panama Jackson, “…how in the flying F*CK did they get to the championship game in the first place?”
They were the best, remember?
@maximillian,
LOL apparently not really…
@The BDay GEM,
See Drake played tricks ran game like the Knicks, built them up just to lose the championship.
@maximillian, ah yes, how soon we forget.
@Panama Jackson,
how in the flying F*CK did they get to the championship game in the first place?
I was wondering the same thing after the video ended. 1st round bye? Naw…they sucked? Maybe it was the boobies!
@K to the…,
definitely the boobies. boobies have magical powers.
@Liz,
as a former big booby baller, i dare say you are correct. hell, i used to wear 2 sports bras until i found a good one that kept Thelma and Louise under control….
@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall…., LOL Yup. Always had to double up. It wasn’t fun lolol.
@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall…., fyi…
big booby ballers sounds like a reality kings site in the making.
@Panama Jackson,
i think that site already exists…at least thats what my homeboy told me….
@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall…., dammit, i’m always a day late and a dollar short.
@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….,
i think that site already exists…at least thats what my homeboy told me…
actually, it doesn’t. “ballhoneys”? yeah. “big booby ballers”? no
@Liz,
As treasurer of the IBTC (Itty Bitty T!tty Committee) and current hooper…I must say that I don’t necessarily feel your pain with the “well-endowment” but you are correct. There’s no way I could hoop in the ish those chicks were wearing.
Now if I’m doing some role playing with my man…that’s another story. lol
@Liz,
You can’t play any good D like that.
so you cant use the d’s on d? i’d imagine theyd be an asset because the other chicks would be trying to avoid em, kind of like how nobody wants to guard the random too hairy shirtless dude at the park
@The Champ, LOl stawp it. You can use Ds on D however you gotta make sure theyre strapped and in place. They can’t be jigglin around…
@Liz,
Not to mention, that ish hurts– having to double up and whatnot so you don’t knock your head off just to get your cardio in. Running, jumping jacks, light stretches — they just get in the way!
I might be one of the only chicks who liked this video…. I thought it was funny. “But Drake you only taught us how to stretch!” …. iDied. I mean… he isn’t going to win any awards for this (well, he might on BET), but as for entertainment – he’s got that part down. lol
@Selah,
LOL iDied @ that part too!!!!
@The BDay GEM,
Happy BDAY!!! (at least i hope it’s your bday lol) … and yes, the vid had its funny parts.
@Selah,
thank you!!
@Selah, I thought it was funny too…LMAO
@shay_d_lady,
right?!? the “take that D” part was dumb azz hell…. but there were def some funny parts… let Drake live peoples!! lol
@Selah, i actually think he sucks highly on the entertaining part. for an actual actor, he comes across as having pretty much zero charisma on film.
which is strange b/c he sounds like a charming enough fella in all of his radio interviews.
@Panama Jackson,
I agree. He seems like a very charming fellow with no acting chops to speak of. Come to think of it, everyone on Degrassi was pretty bad except the gay guys.
@Panama Jackson, , i actually think he sucks highly on the entertaining part. for an actual actor, he comes across as having pretty much zero charisma on film.
I mean the acting and shyt was terrible, true but it still made me laugh…
but that zero charisma is true..
@Selah,
Shit, the NAACP would prolly give dude an image award… they gave one to everyone else…
Ok, gonna comment cuz I’m up…and I can!
This is my first time seeing this as well. Eh…it’s no different than every other video. Just more “in your face”, literally and figuratively. Seems like he just wanted to get people talkin…which he’s succeeded in doin. I take comfort in knowin all dem heffas boobs will be down to their kneecaps in 30 years. Or their hair will be falling out from silicone poisoning. I would be fine with either one.
Heh…heh…heh..(cough, weeze)…heh…
I’s sleepy…
@nia,
I take comfort in knowin all dem heffas boobs will be down to their kneecaps in 30 years. Or their hair will be falling out from silicone poisoning. I would be fine with either one.
i guess its true that haters don’t sleep, lol
Here’s the deal. Drake was every woman (especially every kinda bougie-ish woman)’s dream new dude. He’s light-skinned, wears a Cardigan, is middle upper class, and seems like he would be respectful to his momma, but is somehow still just hood enough to kick it with Cash Money. You know how women always get mad cause they say we want a woman who “Looks like Halle Berry, Cooks like B.Smith, and f*cks like Superhead?” Well, that’s what Drake is to them: The statistically unlikely combination of the mutually exclusive factors they really like: The Magical Negro if you will. No one gave a damn about David Banner’s Play video (lawd hah muhcy, it’s some fine pieces of woman in dat dere) or would if Drake looked like Rick Ross. But he doesn’t. He wears peacoats. He has a winnign smile. He could be al B. sure’s stunt double. And as women often do, they built up a narrative about this dude to fit their fantasies. And as men often do, he disappointed. Not because he did anything particularly wrong. But because some women’s expectations were so wildly out of line with reality. They got so caught up thinking this was gonna be a romantic comedy, they’re devastated that it turned into Streets Is Watching 2. And that’s a dumb ass disillusionment if you ask me because dude’s other song is I WISH I COULD F*** EVERY GIRL IN THE WORLD! And y’all think this is going to be a Maxwell video? F*** is wrong with you people.
@Brandon St. Randy,
ummmm cardigans tho???? i’on think so!!!
besides the fact drake is NOT attractive. the cardigan look makes him look ~4pts uglier. so he’s at like a -1 right now on my scale.
@The BDay GEM,
Yeah cardigans are NOT the business.
Unless you’re Mr. Rogers (RIP)
@miss t-lee,
“Yeah cardigans are NOT the business.
Unless you’re Mr. Rogers (RIP)”
Exactly. Unless you’re changing your shoes in the morning on TV, cooly tossing one shoe from the left hand to the right hand and talking to puppets named after the days of the week, then you should NOT be rocking cardigans.
Plus, the word itself sounds lame by default. Cardigan? You sound like your name is Mercel or some ish.
@Cheekie,
“You sound like your name is Mercel or some ish.”
I’m so mad at you right now, I almost spit out my freggin’ coffee….lol
Dayum!
@Cheekie,
“Unless you’re changing your shoes in the morning on TV, cooly tossing one shoe from the left hand to the right hand and talking to puppets named after the days of the week, then you should NOT be rocking cardigans.”
BWAHAHHAHHAHAHA!
@The BDay GEM,
Yeah, I’d like to have a sit down with all these anonymous women that find Drake sooo attractive. Who wants a ninja in a cardigan?
@Me fail english?, dammit.
*heading back to OshKoshB’Gosh to return all of my cardigans and striped train engineer overalls*
@Panama Jackson,
Take the conductor hat and necktie too!
@Panama Jackson,
“OshKoshB’Gosh”
Just this name alone can send me into a fit of giggles. It oozes corny.
@Me fail english?,
indeed. i think this statement about these so-called mythical Drake-loving women need MORE PPL.
@The BDay GEM, No. It just needs all the woman I’ve seen at every bbq and house party this spring getting all googy eyed and singing “Every Girl” all nodding their heads and shit. If there weren’t all these “Mythical Drake Loving women”, this wouldn’t be a topic of conversation. It would just be some titties in a video. Dudes would approve and flat chested women would suck their teeth and that would be it. The only reason there’s some expectation of it being more woman-friendly is because women ARE into this dude (or at least think he represents some pro-woman sensitive ethos). It may not be you, but they are out there tough. Check the femblogs.
@Me fail english?,
“Who wants a ninja in a cardigan?”
you know, this was actually the original title of “black boy” until richard wright’s agent convinced him otherwise
@The Champ,
I just laughed until I coughed…
I can’t stand you!!!
@The Champ,
LOL. This is almost sacrilege.
@The BDay GEM, yeah, drake isn’t all that good looking. i mean, he’s a 5 on my scale. women letting that light skin fool them…
@Brandon St. Randy,
“Drake was every woman (especially every kinda bougie-ish woman)’s dream new dude”
This is a falsehood. Dude isn’t even a blip on the radar. He’s like a Canal St. knockoff. It looks real from a distance but when you get close up to it you realize its a phony. His whole “swagger” is inherited not inherent and that is anti-cute.
@Nola Darling,
“His whole “swagger” is inherited not inherent and that is anti-cute.”
cooooooooooo-sign. i hate it when wack people feel the need to have swagger.
@Nola Darling,
No buttchex…but statements like that are starting to convince me that men find Drake more physically attractive than men do. Its usually a man commenting on his physical appeal while the females are oddly silent or in disagreement. Men give light skinned points to other men too?
@Me fail english?,
Men give light skinned points to other men too?
Inquiring minds want to know….
@blackberry molasses,
Here’s my theory. I always used to think men were lying when they’d say “I don’t know if he looks good! I dont judge other dudes!” Id be all “Yeah right. You’ve got eyes, how can you not be able to tell.”
But I’m starting to think there’s some truth to this. Men have no idea what another good looking man is til we tell them. Like they just see light-skinted dudes and be like “Man, I bet Sinbad gets all the bishes!”
I actually think Drake is squarely in “unattractive” territory. I won’t call him “ugly” because that’s such a mean word.
@me fail,
“Like they just see light-skinted dudes and be like “Man, I bet Sinbad gets all the bishes!””
*clutching tummy*
LOL, stop!! Got me having flashbacks of his reddish curly high-top fade and his gutterbut tummy overlapping his pants belt on A Different World. Those were the days.
@me fail,
“Here’s my theory. I always used to think men were lying when they’d say “I don’t know if he looks good! I dont judge other dudes!” Id be all “Yeah right. You’ve got eyes, how can you not be able to tell.”
But I’m starting to think there’s some truth to this. Men have no idea what another good looking man is til we tell them.”
thing is, what women find attractive is so arbitrary and variable that you can’t expect a man to be able to make that determination. we have no idea because there’s really no consensus.
@The Champ,
You’re right about different women’s taste being all over the place. But in reference to Drake, I’ve heard quite a few men remark he’s a nice looking guy and almost NO women say it. Consensus is really hard to come by, but I think we’re pretty close on this one.
So why do men think Drake is so appealing? Cuz he’s tall and light skinned? Is it the cardigans and peacoats?? I’ve gotta know!
@Me fail english?, i won’t go as far as to say that any women i know were looking at him physically. in fact, no women i know have made any real, “drake is good-lookin” comments.
however, most of the discussions i’ve had about Drake have occurred with women who have asked me if i’d heard of him, this song, or knew anything else about him since they love his music so much.
i actually think that if Drake was better looking (face it, he has mediocre face…perhaps he’s a 3, like me?), he’d be even bigger than he currently is.
same argument for The-Dream. if he was better looking he’d be selling millions instead of writing million-sellers for other people.
in FACT, i contend that if Usher had The-Dream’s first album, it would have sold 10 mil.
@Panama Jackson,
On a side note: How UN-sexy is Dream and Milian’s Vibe cover. I feel like she’s being violated by a Teddy Graham
@Me fail english?
lmao @ “I feel like she’s being violated by a Teddy Graham”
seriously, that cover is a wildly horrifically ghastly disturbingly un-sexy sight.
@Me fail English?, that cover is horrific. that photo is everything that’s wrong with education in 12 countries and Cambodia.
the teddy graham reference is disturbing… because i love them with apple juice.
*rocks in a corner*
@me fail english?,
“On a side note: How UN-sexy is Dream and Milian’s Vibe cover. I feel like she’s being violated by a Teddy Graham”
HAHAHA!
GIRL, YES. If any two things cancel each other out, it’s them two. Like how in thee world did this happen? I mean, I KNOW why she’s messin’ with him, but I just know, ya know? lol
His face disturbs me. There’s something off about it, like his facial features aren’t in the right spots. A “Mr. Potato Head Conundrum” of sorts.
@blackberry molasses,
Dream is what I imagine The Berenstain Bears would look like in a live action film. I find it completely unecessary and in bad taste for him to be topless in the pic.
On a side note: How UN-sexy is Dream and Milian’s Vibe cover. I feel like she’s being violated by a Teddy Graham
i get every comment emailed to me, and when i first read that at 10:30 i laughed so hard i actually made myself dizzy. good job
@me fail,
“Dream is what I imagine The Berenstain Bears would look like in a live action film. ”
LMAO! Yes. See, you don’t dredged up my lifelong dream from way back. I remember when I read these books how I wanted a life-action feature of it. He straight up should play a bear. Ol’ Teddy Ruxpin self.
@Cheekie,
*dead* @ Teddy Ruxpin. I was thinking that too. Like they should only dress that ninja in red sweaters and have him read songs out a book.
@Panama Jackson, same argument for The-Dream. if he was better looking he’d be selling millions instead of writing million-sellers for other people.
in FACT, i contend that if Usher had The-Dream’s first album, it would have sold 10 mil.
I gotta co sign he is like a lame munchkin.. much like bobby Valentino you can tell they were the lame chubby dudes in highschool with s curls trying desperately to gain social status by singing….
ughhh and he is g.a.y nttawwt
@Nola Darling,
His whole “swagger” is inherited not inherent and that is anti-cute.
lol, so you either have swagger from birth or you don’t? all those swag-less 4 year olds should probably just give up then
@Nola Darling, *Preach*
@Brandon St. Randy, dude’s other song is I WISH I COULD F*** EVERY GIRL IN THE WORLD! And y’all think this is going to be a Maxwell video? F*** is wrong with you people.
LMAO..is there really anything else that needs to be said?
@shay_d_lady, i also wonder how that little tid-bit gets lost in the Drake shuffle.
this is worse than when everybody thought Jon Legend’s first album was any good b/c of “ordinary people” when it was really just an average ass album. Jon Legend’s first album was basically a Carl Thomas album in drag.
@Panama Jackson, Speak on it! Let’s name more overrated albums. I’ll take Alicia Keye’s first album for $500 Alex!
@ChiChi, we dont have the time. but her 3 albums are probably in the top 3.
@Panama Jackson,
“Jon Legend’s first album was basically a Carl Thomas album in drag.”
*pause*
*busts out laughing*
Hate you, Pan. HATE.
@Panama Jackson, this is worse than when everybody thought Jon Legend’s first album was any good b/c of “ordinary people” when it was really just an average ass album. Jon Legend’s first album was basically a Carl Thomas album in drag.
okay this was funny…LMAO
but I liked Johns first album, it was really good in my opinion.. you can put it on and play it all the way through was it a great album? no, but it was good…
but then maybe so was carl thomas’s I dont remember anything about that album but summer rain and so emotional…
@shay_d_lady,
“but then maybe so was carl thomas’s I dont remember anything about that album but summer rain and so emotional…”
LOL–I’m tired of ya’ll throwing Carl under the bus. That first album was hot from start to finish.
Any albums after that…wacktacular.
@miss t-lee,
Yeah, my sister and I STILL bump that Carl Thomas.
@Brandon St. Randy,
I didn’t even finish reading this. iDied at “Drake, The Magic Negro”
To the tune of Puff the Magic Dragon:
Drake, the magic Negro.
Jimmy from Degrassi.
Used to hang out in a wheelchair
Now makes vids with gratuitous tiddays….
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
@blackberry molasses has to work today
,
lmao!!!!!!
@Brandon St. Randy,
“Drake was every woman (especially every kinda bougie-ish woman)’s dream new dude”
No.
“No one gave a damn about David Banner’s Play video ”
I did…I was looking at my baby daddy!!!
(Admitted David Banner stan)
@miss t-lee,
Me too. David Banner is hot and smart.
@pinksghetti,
Yes ma’am.
@miss t-lee,
I’ll join the list of David Banner’s stans.
I believe it’s a Texas (or southern) thing.
@Sula,
I told you I got to touch his head at a concert back in December right?
(the one on top of his shoulders…lol)
Merry Christmas to me.
@miss t-lee,
Yes. And I am still jealous.
(although the other head wouldn’t be half-bad to touch either…. *starts dream sequence*)
@miss t-lee,
(although the other head wouldn’t be half-bad to touch either…. *starts dream sequence*)
*daps*
@miss t-lee,
“I told you I got to touch his head at a concert back in December right?”
We’ve just about had it with you T-Lee! Pack your e-shet and get outta here!!
*Hates, hates, hates ooooonnn….*
@Me fail english?
*giggling loudly*
Don’t start posting my mock facebook comments again….lol
or was that Cheekie? I can’t remember.
@miss t-lee,
I think it was me. But who really knows. I’m not really sure what the difference between me and Cheekie is either…
*cracking up at this entire exchange*
I love ya’ll.
@miss t-lee,
is this the fun shyt i miss while in meetings
*glares at agenda and promptly throws it in the trash*
@ blackberry molasses
Ding dang meetings!!
@miss t-lee,
there’s something about David Banner that is very sexy!!! i liked the Play vid. i thought it was sexy and naughty–made me wanna get my fitness in and drip sweat!! real talk, that song is on my workout playlist.
@The BDay GEM,
You have heard the original version right? It’s absolutely filthy…but that’s good.
I have the part of the chorus as a ringtone on my phone…the line that says “don’t play with it “.
Oh yeah…he’s very sexy in person.
@miss t-lee,
yes, the dirty version is actually whats in the playlist LOL
@The BDay GEM ,
*daps*
mmmm, David Banner.
I need a moment.
I can barely watch that play video without…needing a moment.
And so ends 8th’s TMI comment for the day
@8th Wonder,
That makes two of us….lol
@8th Wonder, co-sign!
@8th Wonder, Yes… david is s.e.xy as hell!!!
that thugelligence….mmmmhmmmmm
@Brandon St. Randy,
Drake was every woman (especially every kinda bougie-ish woman)’s dream new dude.
nope. not at all. where do you meet these women?
No one gave a damn about David Banner’s Play video
i did. but then again, i actually care about how black women are portrayed in the media…i’m weird like that. and Play the song, was lyrically more crude than Every Girl…just my humble opinion. perhaps Drake is catching more heat b/c he is new, and that some people (men and women) expected him to be different from the rest. well, we already know that sexx sells, so why should he do anything different?
@Brandon St. Randy, Drake was every woman (especially every kinda bougie-ish woman)’s dream new dude.
i agree in theory, but i think in reality, b/c he sings SO much and can rap, and all his songs are generally woman friendly (kind of), women viewed him as the alternative to current overly misogynistic hip-hop. even when he calls women ho*s in songs, you don’t really believe he means it. in fact, i envision him trying to justify it to his mother and then hugging her and apologizing while sipping on chai tea and patting his puppy on the head.
really, his music persona and his interview/off-stage persona seem to conflict.
i lost my point somewhere.
@Brandon St. Randy,
You are hilarious!!
I haven’t watched the video yet… but I know for a fact that the scenario you described is what mostly played out…
“all the women are light, ethnically ambiguous to white looking women”
So is Drake.
I completely missed the hype on dude. He is the equivalent of the Pet Rock. I get it he’s popular, all the pretty girls wanna be on his team.
Shout out to Dante_Alexander for introducing me to the word boolsheet. LOL. I hear Rob Schnieder’s character(the delivery guy) in Big Daddy saying this.
@Nola Darling, Drake’s not ethnically ambiguous.
he’s just like Vin Diesel.
@Nola Darling,
I was going to bring up the same point. Drake himself is light-skinned, why does it matter if all the women in his video are as well?
Who exactly is bringing up this complaint? Do dark skinned women feel that they are not being properly represented as video hos? I mean, if Al-Qeda was only going after white girls, would these same complaints of some sort of bias or discrimination be raised?
@kamakula,
As a dark-skinned woman, I don’t really get that whole debate anyways… For the past 5 years, there have been more dark-skinned “successful” video hos than the opposite… And what does it even prove or mean?
I think this argument is slowly becoming like the Nazi-Jewish one. It ends the debate because there is no where to go after it’s stated.
@Sula,
I think this argument is slowly becoming like the Nazi-Jewish one.
***the vsb analogy committee is officially confused by this comparison, and needs sula to resubmit her application with an explanation***
@The Champ,
Lol! You know what they say… As soon as someone brings up the Holocaust (or the Bible) as an explanation for something, there is nowhere to go really…
Or is that not known knowledge? Oops, my bad to the VSB committee then.
@The Champ,
Come on Champ, you know Godwin’s law.
Perfect title, that’s why the criticism came. Drake was looked upon as the breath of fresh air in the game and the promising look of tomorrow. He turned out to be just like the rest. Premature? Maybe. Hearing the song was already a conflict…I liked how it sounded when I heard it, but didn’t like it so much when I listened. ………imma give you time for that one…….
Ok. So once you get passed that, and you try to prop him up, you see the video and his performance on the BET awards, and you feel like you’ve been bamboozled. Even Latifah was left copping pleas trying to defend her like for him after the awards show.
Hip Hop is under attack, we are dying to find someone that can be different, cool, good AND successful. Lets examine….
Kanye….the ego, whining, and 808′s of it all leave us confused. Lyrically, he’s not the best, we can’t really deny that. Shout out to the auntie team. So he’s different and successful. Cool, depends on the topic and good…well, that’s not really up for debate is it? He’s fun, but lyrically, I wouldn’t pick him for my starting 5.
Lupe…retiring 3 albums in is not a good look for a legend. Lyrically, he’s dope. He’s good, I’d go BEYOND good, I’d say great. Cool, hey, he is the cool right…skateboard rhetoric may hurt that for some and his whole midnight marauder problem may hurt even more. Successful….not like he should be. I think he’s done enough to make folks mention his name, but not enough to make us KEEP mentioning his name.
Common…Lyrically, fantastic. Cool, hey, outside of the crocheted pants and UMC, he was gold right? Different, I don’t know that Common has shot anyone on wax since his first album (I may be wrong though, but it’s not his hallmark even if he has). Successful…see…..he STILL doesn’t have one platinum album. Jay said people lie, numbers don’t. We can change Commons name and use this for most of the artists that have come out beyond the Golden Age.
I could go on and on. But I have to mention one more. Weezy…
the jury is still out on him for most of the world. Those of us that listen know that Weezy has the talent (see Dr. Carter as an example) to do some good things that capture Hip Hop….he also has the ability to say things like “I’m so high I can eat a star.” Is he cool…I guess. If you like skinny jeans, tussin and various drugs, he may be the benchmark. Different, not anymore. I mean, sure you know when you hear Weezy on a track…but the autotune/vocoder nonsense spread like the chicken pox and nowadays, I can’t tell him from Ron Browz or most of these other cats that use that thing. Successful? Well, I can’t argue with that at all. He’s young and just had the highest selling album of 2008 and probably most official releases in one year ever.
Sorry, I went on a rant. What I’m trying to say is that Drake’s talent and showing on Comeback Season had us seeing more than what was there. This video showed us that what we want don’t really matter.
@Saule Wright, i ALWAYS catch flack for saying this, but i REALLY don’t get the hype on Lupe Fiasco…at all.
now i own both of his albums (bought them to show support) but upon listening, he’s somebody i don’t understand the undying love for. at least Drake is somewhat interesting (though its not saying much to be more interesting than Lupe to me).
Lupe benefits from positive by not being negative to me. at the time when he showed up, he stood in stark contrast to the standard fare of the day so he seemed…different. he got the jay cosign, but really, his first album sucked monkey nuts, save for ‘kick, push’.
i like the 2nd album…more. but even still, i’m just not sold on him either.
@Panama Jackson,
really? Lyrically, that dude has some serious lines. Now his asthmatic breathing-flow style hurts my soul, but his flow is pretty impeccable. American Terrorist is one of the dopest songs to come out in the past 10 years. I’d say give him more spins. I think that yeah, he doesn’t have the charisma of Drake, thus another knock on being cool.
@Saule Wright, i’ve listened to him ad nauseum. mostly b/c i was trying to hear what everybody else heard. i just ain’t feeling wasalu.
@Panama Jackson, @Saule Wright,
who DO you think is nice then?…and why?
@Carver The Great!, i’m a jay fan, nas fan, kanye fan…
but if i had to come up with my top mc’s
andre 3000 – he’s better in one verse than most folks catalogs, he just takes too long to give you verse
biggie (he dead tho) – cuz he just was
jay – cuz there are more quotable jay lines than any other rapper…you can hav ea whole convo with jay lines
royce da 5’9 – he’s just a monster on the mic, period, i actually check for all of slaughterhouse (as a group)
kanye west – great rapper or not, dude has lines for days when he’s not singing…i actually think he’s a very good rapper at this point
that’s it for now…
@Saule Wright,
I damn near wore American Terrorist out. That is Lupe’s track to peep. Kick, Push is the radio jawn…but A.T. is that joint.
@Saule Wright,
I’m sorry but I can’ t take u seriously if you’re gonna dismiss Kanye’s talent like that.
@Dorian G., yeah, i’m with you.
@Dorian G.,
Hey, I enjoy Kanye, I’m just not ready to give him the Lyricist Award yet.
@Saule Wright,
“Lupe…retiring 3 albums in is not a good look for a legend.”
I’ll believe that when I see it, I think Jay was supposed to retire after 1, then 2 and then 3 and so on and so on… now he is an indie artist or something like that…
Most rappers normally go out like most athletes they are either cut or they get older and tired.
@Saule Wright,
I think you laid your game down quite flat. That’s hip hop’s dilemma. A breath of fresh air that can become the new Jay, basically.
We forget that Jay had the game on smash after Vol. II until a few years ago. Hip hop needs a hegemon. Patent pending.
I liked the video. Slow motion is awesome.
I turned the sound down, and enjoyed it even more. The song was distracting, you know.
I had no real expectations for dude since I just heard his mixtape like a week or so ago, and the BET thing made me more indifferent, if that’s even possible.
I think there’s only 2 sets of people upset at the video: those who put drake on an undeserved and unfair pedestal, and (as a couple facebookers pointed out) those with A-cups… I hope the former is a minority, and the latter, well…
As far as the actual video, I’ve seen worse production values on College Hill, so it was par for the course.
@maximillian, you’re right, slow motion is awesome.
i think you’re right on the two groups. my chin-scratching conundrum is why so many men (i’ve read where quite a few men are upset with the video) are up in arms?
are these the men who refuse to love anything that exploits women?
like life?
@Panama Jackson,
Maybe they have feminists/womanists in their lives they are trying to score points with? I’m trying to give them the benefit of the doubt here.
@maximillian,
I am womanist and I don’t find the video offensive.
Women need to understand that choice is just that a choice. Those women CHOSE to be on the video so it’s THEIR choice and if we are not condescending arseholes, we should accept that people will make choices that are different than ours and be ok with that notion.
I get so tired of the so-called-feminists who are deploring the “objectification of women” when it clearly is a choice ADULT women are making for themselves. Give them the benefit of the doubt in thinking that they made the best choice for THEM.
*end rant sequence*
@maximillian,
“Slow motion is awesome.”
Slow motion definitely makes sexay things even sexay-er. And not-so-sexay things funnier or grosser.
@maximillian,
I just to tell you that every time I see your screen name I start singing “maximillian”, like meth does at the begging of GZA’s “Shadowboxin’”.
Just thought I’d share…lmao
@miss t-lee,
*chortle*
Unlike GZA, it’s my gov’t name…
@maximillian,
Niiiice.
you pretty much hit the nail on the head with your summation of why the people that hate this video, hate it. i personally, wouldn’t care what color the boobs are….just the mere fact that he thought it was a good idea baffles me. this is the same guy who said, “u can have my heart or we can share it like the last slice.”
i feel bamboozled…..hoodwinked.
gamed if you will.
i guess i just feel (and actually have felt prior to the video) that he has been playing this ‘nice guy’ role up, and it was just confirmed with the video. just seems like a slight mush to the face of his female fans, but eh do what you do.
oh and the explanation of the video was beyond bogus. u don’t have a “roster” of girls that all look the same way, act the same way, and are all good for the same thing….if we’re going with that theme.
in other light-skinned news, can we get a j. cole post?
@Chas, can we get a j. cole post?
nope.
not only have i not even heard any of his music, i’m less interested in him than i am in jeremih. that’s to say, not at all.
@Panama Jackson,
lol that’s unfortunate. you’re missing out.
@Chas, somehow, i dont think that i am.
@Panama Jackson,
next year this time, we’ll discuss how you feel.
@Chas,
I can’t see why this is a “bad” idea. A couple days on my drive home along east liberty, I passed by Cheerleaders. More cars parked out there than I’ve ever seen. Clearly, bouncing boobs (among other things) are still all the rage. Might I argue they have always been (ever see any woman in Victorian getup? They invented the push-up bra).
The only reason there exists some sort of brouhaha over this is the same as if someone were to catch Barack Obama pimp slapping Michelle. First – obviously it would not have been the first time. But the reason it would be a problem is because it violates what people have built up in their minds about Obama and not necessarily what he himself has espoused.
Ok, bad example . . . but if you’d seen the video I got the night of the inauguration when I managed to sneak by the secret service through the back door of the White House used mostly to deliver late night pizza to the Vice President on the nights that they blow snuff off the tits of coked up Polynesian whores, you would realize that if Michelle walked in on you after being told over and over again that tonight is MY night, you’d have pimp slapped her too.
@kamakula,
lmao i don’t disagree with u one bit. in theory, this is not a bad idea.
but for a person in his position, which just happens to be a very unique position, you don’t want your first intro to “mainstream” to be with boobs bouncing in slow mo. or at least i wouldn’t if i was him. if this were 6 months to a year ago he could have done this…some people would care, but it wouldn’t really matter.
he and his team have marketed him to people as one thing and then given us another. the mixtape that has gotten him the majority of the recognition he has is mostly directed at women, therefore i think i think he should have stuck with that motiv a tad bit longer before hittin us with overly suggestive material.
and those boobs you passed weren’t zoomed in so you could see just boobs in slow mo.
@Chas,
Perhaps this was his big yuck fou to everyone bucking his salls.
@kamakula,
word.
@Chas,
co-sign, j. cole is dope. i just listened to his mixtape “the warm up”
for those unaware, j. cole is the sole artist signed to jay-z’s roc nation label. if you rock with jay, you should give the mixtape a listen. my favorites are “lights please”, “world is empty”, and “dead presidents ii”
check out his verse on wale’s mixtape too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiICWmY-dRs
ladies you might learn something from the link above…
I think Kanye has a plushie fetish…I mean whats up with the adults in furry animal costumes?
@shay_d_lady,
I saw a show one time with all these naked people in furry, animal heads. They have a name for it that I forgot. I bet Kanye would know though….
@Me fail english?,
They call them furries. It’s a weird obsession–sexually–with dressing up as a teddy bear, a dog, basically anything with fur. Think anywhere from girls in sexy cat costumes to Kayne’s first album.
@madam_ori,
LOL! Is this the first thing you’ve ever commented on here? That’s hilarious to me. As Champ would say, Welcome and sh!t.
@Me fail english?,
Well thanks for the welcome! LOL. As for the furry thing, I’ve met a few furries before. Strange strange creatures. I’ve met enough people with weird sexual fetishes that I’m not even surprised anymore. Think David Carradine…
@madam_ori,
creepy
@Me fail english?,
yeah man. there was an Anthrocon (huge furry convention) here in Pgh a couple weeks ago. i saw clips on the news–weird and freakish. but to each his/her own i suppose…
@The BDay GEM,
I guess whatever floats your boat…
@shay_d_lady,
Yup…I automatically thought of that when he was promoting “College Dropout”. Hilariously enough, I had seen a documentary on Furry Fetishes not too long before he burst into the mainstream scene.
um….i just think drake is wack, generally. but was that kim kardashian? wait a minute, reggie.
also, i’m not really offended when light skinned people pick other light-skin people as being the representative of all things attractive. i mean, i guess i wouldn’t be offended no matter who did it, because, hell, as a brown sugar i know what i bring to the table and who i want to bring it to. i guess my point is that i don’t see video ho-dom as the pinnacle of success or the equivalent to a bona fide modeling job. and even if i did, i respect* when people are attracted to folks that look like them. You better believe that if i had to pick a lineup of folks i think are chexy, folks would be asking, “um……but why they all look like your cousins, tho??” lol
*not really “respect,” but whatever
@charli skipper, i don’t see video ho-dom as the pinnacle of success or the equivalent to a bona fide modeling job
you don’t? isn’t that the aspiration of every pretty, well-endowed woman?
i mean the only dream of the ghetto prom queen is to make it to the screen, maybe get seen…or maybe even to get choose by some ninja from a team!
kanye west teaches us that.
@Panama Jackson,
lol@ the Book of Kanye, Chapter 3, Verse 16…The Ni**a Please version, natch
@Me fail english?,
*dead*
@charli skipper,
“also, i’m not really offended when light skinned people pick other light-skin people as being the representative of all things attractive.”
It must be just in Detroit where light skinned people date and are attracted to other light-skinned people.
@charli skipper,
I’m trying to figure out why your cousins top the list of people you find chexy.
@kamakula,
I’m trying to figure out why your cousins top the list of people you find chexy.
LOLOL
@kamakula, *dead*
@charli skipper,
I prefer caramel colored men with big eyes and pointy noses…basically, dudes who look like me! Lol. I thought I was the only one.
@Me fail english?, there is something to this, I always find men who look East African (hold the skinny) part, sexay.
@Me fail english?,
I prefer caramel colored men with big eyes and pointy noses…basically, dudes who look like me!
thank you! they know damn well i wasn’t talking about real cousins. *side eyeing everybody as i walk the hell out*
@charli skipper,
i know what i bring to the table and who i want to bring it to.
i know that’s right!!! PR/TEACH!!
also, is there gonna be some kind of VSB “very special edition” for the memorial tomorrow? because clearly…
@charli skipper, i’m not even sure how to tackle the memorial service. i mean, BET isn’t running it so it should be a pretty good affair.
@Panama Jackson,
“BET isn’t running it so it should be a pretty good affair.”
Wait….they’re not? Odd. I wonder if their shame from the BET Awards had anything to do with that.
@Panama Jackson,
LOL
@Panama Jackson,
lol. thank BBJ for the little blessings in life….
@Panama Jackson,
Word. BET woulda found some way to eff it all up just taping it.
Drake..has no talent. There i said it! lol
His voice is mediocre at best and if it wasnt for some creative mixing by the engineer he’d sound like shii. There are very few who have real talent out these days. People please dont believe the hype til you hear them sing LIVE! Even Kanye cant save that.
My daughter told me he used to be on a show called Degrassi Jr. High, which is based out of Canada. *http://www.blackbookmag.com/article/kanyes-slo-mo-opus-drakes-best-i-ever-had-video/8800*
Drake hopefully has no staying power and i pray the powers that be dont try to groom him to be the next “Chris Brownish type dood” lol
@aja,
I thought I was the only one who noticed the engineering/mixing magic on this track…. and others.
Because I caught a vid of the infamous BET performance. Little girls and Li’l Wayne aside…. *YAWN*
@aja, he’s still on Degrassi, isn’t he?
@miss kate,
Nope, they got rid of the original cast earlier this year, a la “Saved By the Bell” for “The New Class,” “The Next Generation,” or some mess that says, “we need to perpetually keep new 25 year olds to play 14 year olds on here.
@aja,
I never saw n’an episode of Degrassi, but ever since I saw someone refer to Drake as “Wheelchair Jimmy”, I haven’t been able to stop referring to him to that on occassion. It rolls off the tongue, that one…
Put it this way. The video does have its painful moments. The chex puns were cringe-worthy (though funny when you first hear them) and it did seem like they fielded the Cleavage Cavaliers just because you can get away with that in a music video for whatever reason.
Now onto Drake himself. Say word to the fact that he doesn’t look comfortable in his own skin on stage (especially on TV). Maybe it’s the pressure of him going Hollywood before the rest of the Degrassi gang. That aside, he is a monster on the mic (when keeping the delivery gimmicks to a minimum).
But female casual Hip-Hop fans aren’t a great audience to pander to. They don’t know if they want Chuck and Kris, Common/Mos/Kweli, LL, Pac and Biggie, or a Lil Young Boy. Same girls complaining about the vid will dance in a circle at the club when the selector cues it up (album version saying things naughtier than the vid could possibly be).
I think Drake can live down the past few weeks just fine….because at least unlike Charles Hamilton, people WANT to root for him. And the sharks that write these Hip-Hop blogs aren’t girls, so this will be moved on from inside of three weeks.
@Stuff Ghetto People Like,
“Cleavage Cavaliers” …. LMAO
@Stuff Ghetto People Like,
“But female casual Hip-Hop fans aren’t a great audience to pander to. They don’t know if they want Chuck and Kris, Common/Mos/Kweli, LL, Pac and Biggie, or a Lil Young Boy.”
You make it sound like males don’t do this also. And we all know that’s not true…
@Me fail english?,
Yep.
@Me fail english?, unfortunately, it is. Female casual listeners are more hit-driven. They don’t get deep into the personality cult and really following artists. They usually ain’t interested in a record from anyone unless it blew up on Kiss-FM and they don’t go nowhere near the dancefloor until peak hours.
With male casual listeners, their focus is on whatever bumps in the ride. Once they know an artist made that, they’ll fluck with em.
Though unlike males who are more known to dub, rip or seek out the “free” download, females are more likely to buy the legit album. So go figure.
@Stuff Ghetto People Like,
I beg to differ. I’ve known men who bumped all of those artists you named from the same iPod. When the tides changed from Brand Nubian to Tupac and Snoop to Puffy to Master P to DMX, etc. that wasn’t just females making the switch. Somehow, no one ever accuses men with diverse musical tastes of “not knowing what they want”. They just changed their preferred listening.
As far as decrying music vids and then dancing to it at a club, I also have known guys who talked tough about Puff, Soulja Boy or whoever else they didnt feel had banging lyrics, but damn if they wasn’t rockin out at the club. No need to make women the scapegoat here.
@Me fail english?,
“Somehow, no one ever accuses men with diverse musical tastes of “not knowing what they want”. They just changed their preferred listening.”
I stopped fighting that battle years ago…lol
I just let my musical knowlege speak for itself.
@miss t-lee,
I’d say it even extends beyond hip hop though. Men who change their minds are entitled to a new, perhaps seemingly contradictory opinion. Women who change their minds are halfwits who “don’t know what they want”.
No.
@Me fail english?,
I agree…it definitely extends beyond hip hop.
I’ve had way too many discussions with kats off all races who assumed I didn’t know what I was talking about musically…only to be painted in a corner when they didn’t know what THEY were talking about. Especially on genres they assumed I knew nothing about (e.g. metal, classic rock, ambient., etc).
Keep on assuming ish. I love it.
@Me fail english?, those hardrock dudes are rocking out at the club with/for y’all, they ain’t doing it alone,
Dates back to when some of our parents were kids and songs like “Do You Love Me” had the character of a dude dancing because he thinks that will get her on his team.
The average man will change his steez, get to simpin’ and the whole shot, for the greater good of scoring, and there’s not a woman on the planet that doesn’t know that.
@Stuff,
Lame excuse. “I just do it for the chicks” is right up there with “How’d that get there?” and “I had no idea you’d be here tonight!” with shet ninjas say to avoid stating the actual, factual.
Aint no chicks at the club like “Damn, I wasnt gonna give him the number…til I saw him turn his swag on” *giggles* Them dudes don’t be grinding to “Diddy Bop”. They bop their heads right in the whip by themselves.
Yall need to stop bullshettin. We ALL like different types of music and it has nothing to do with confusion or lack of understanding.
“Female casual listeners are more hit-driven…With male casual listeners, their focus is on whatever bumps in the ride.”
What’s the difference? A lot of equivocating and frontin. That’s what.
@Stuff Ghetto People Like,
good breakdown and sh*t.
black women’s relationship with hip-hop is a peculiar thing. i could expound, but i wont
@Me fail english?,
match point.
Your reaction to this vid is a reaction that I have to almost every rapper/rnb/hip-hop song these days. *yawn* So what else is new? Not too many men and women are encouraged to be ORIGINAL and REAL these days if they want to get paid. The audience/consumers just doesn’t want that. Young, old and the in between.
Your side note about should all the women have equal chance at indecent exposure is on point. I’ve always said that on message boards….I don’t want equal opportunity for that kind of exposure. Not even for the lighter skinned women in this video.
1,
LC
@Lady Chi, personally, i’m all about equal opportunity exploitation.
but that’s b/c i like ‘em brown, yellow, puerto rican, and haitian.
@Panama Jackson,
aight Phife Diggy…
@Panama Jackson,
Word to Tribe.
@Panama Jackson,
lmao. Yeah, okay.
@Lady Chi,
welcome and sh*t (i think)
@The Champ,
Thank you and sh*t…. I think
I agree with everything you said in your analysis. Although Drake represents the Hip-Hop nice guy, he is still a man. I feel like I’ve seen a lot worse in other hip hop videos. Idk. Flopping boobs don’t excite me, but neither does Drake – neither one are for me… I actually think it’s a bit artistic **don’t kill me** It would have been nice to see a regular black chick in the video. I’ll say that I take issue w/ that way more than I do w/ the booby flappage.
@pgh muse,
I agree with you pgh. There are plenty of fine behind dark skinned sisters. Can’t knock the darker berries… I hear they have the sweeter juice.
@Double J,
we do
@pgh muse, As if being “still a man” means we all have seenister exploitation of women on our minds.
The superbad regular girls all do commercials. The video market is restricted to King magazine porno fantasy chicks. And with the way these vids are usually strictly about rump, it was a welcome relief to even see one throw a bone to the breast men for a change, LOL.
Hip-Hop is such an over the top cartoon anymore…smh.
I am still not on the Drake bandwagon, although this song is pretty hot.
When I first saw the video, I thought it was hot… it was funny and entertaining, as I’m sure it was meant to be. He was even making fun of the fact that it was so sex based, hence, “all u have taught us to do is stretch.”
I didn’t even notice the light skin girls thing.. why are people so dayum focused on that? I am really, REALLY sick of the color issue in our community, we have bigger fish to fry. People should not be looking for video h*es to make them feel good about themselves… if that is the case, should I raise Hades bc I don’t have double ds?
I digress. I’m kinda passionate about that color thing.
@Nicki Sunshine, should I raise Hades bc I don’t have double ds?
yes
@Panama Jackson, LMBO. But I am not. Shoot, I am mad they are the size they are now. I liked the little ones.
@Nicki Sunshine,
“I am really, REALLY sick of the color issue in our community, we have bigger fish to fry. ”
I’m really sick of it as well, but actually, I think we should tackle it head on because though I agree we have bigger fish to fry, the color issue is a pretty big fish. It’s a part of that whole “divide and conquer” ish 2520s have successfully implanted on us that seriously hinders us from growing as a people. It seems so petty that something so superficial as color is keeping us apart, but, whoomp there it is. *sigh*
@Cheekie, But it’s something that will always exist… black people come in all shapes, I think we all need to get over it and recognize that.
People in the entertainment industry cannot dictate the way we see ourselves.
@Nicki Sunshine,
Yup, I definitely agree we need to accept it and recognize it. However, as we all know, the color issue didn’t start with the entertainment industry, it’s a reflection of the issue that was already there. So, it’s not so much blaming the entertainment industry for our color issues, it’s recognizing it as an aspect of said issue. I don’t think we should focus on the entertainment industry and what they’re doing, we should focus on the issue behind it.
I guess what I’m saying is while I don’t want the color spectrum to be an issue, I do have to recognize that is one to solve it. It’s an issue we DO need to get over, but the only way we’re going to do so is to tackle it head-on instead of tiptoeing around it. It’s not gonna be an easy fight, either, since it’s so ingrained in our heads.
@Nicki Sunshine,
I agree with everything Cheeks said above. We all wish it wasn’t an issue and most don’t think it should be an issue (this can be said of a whole lotta stuff: homophobia, drug use, race, prostitution)…yet the fact remains it is.
I can’t say I’ve had major issue with the color thing in my life, so seeing it in videos sometimes goes over my head, but it’s certainly been a lifelong issue for lots of smart, well-rounded, strong-minded people I know.
What I think is disturbing is the fact that ppl minimize colorism as if it has not had a profound and lasting impact in our community. “The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist.”
the end all be all comment to this. you ready? here it comes….
Who gives a flying fluck about Drake and his T&A vid? You were expecting something else? F outta here.
*goes back to listening to Young La*
@blackberry molasses, LMBO!!!!
@blackberry molasses,
This ish is just made me chuckle…loudly.
@blackberry molasses,
Ain’t that the truf.
**high fives BB Mo’**
@blackberry molasses,
“Who gives a flying fluck about Drake and his T&A vid? You were expecting something else? F outta here.”
ROFL.
I imagine Mother Goose closing a giant book saying “THE END” after the above statement. THE END, indeed.
@blackberry molasses, Who gives a flying fluck about Drake and his T&A vid? You were expecting something else? F outta here.
and that is exactly how i feel. i was waiting for someone to speak my mind so i can co-sign and continue on, i knew i could count on my e-mama.
all this talk about drake, when MAXWELL IS BACK.
*flying off with my pretty WANGS*
@overit?,
“all this talk about drake, when MAXWELL IS BACK.
*flying off with my pretty WANGS*”
For real! I mean, MAXWELL. Come on, folks!
Pre-tay Wangs, your Pre-tay Wangs, your….
I wanna sing this to a bucket of Harold’s Chicken, it’s so glorious.
@Cheekie,
You know, I hate Teeth Harvey’s *(c) someone on vsb* kuntry arse for putting in my head “Chicken Wangs your Chicken Wangs…” I can’t help but sing that now. Dammnit!
@overit?,
LOL! my close friend’s BF bought her 2 tix to the upcoming maxwell concert here in pgh–one for her and a friend. he’s not going becuz he had other plans for that night. she invited me but i’ll be home in SD. i’m contemplating skipping my fam reunion to drool at the crooning of pretty wangs. *smh* fml.
@The BDay GEM, be still my heart. I cain’t WAIT! this is definitely a convo I want in on!!! *** singing Pret-ty Wings your Pret-ty Wings***
@The BDay GEM,
I saw Maxwell last Wednesday.
It was fantastic.
That is all.
@miss t-lee,
could you kindly stop mentioning that erry day? DAYUM!
hatehatehatehatehatehate
@miss t-lee,
LMFAO @ miss t-lee for finding every opportunity to mention this.
The Man: Ok, that concludes today’s meeting. Any questions? *looks around* Yes, miss t-lee?
miss t-lee: I just wanted to bring it to the attention of the staff that I saw Maxwell last Wednesday.
Female Staff: *mass throat punch*
@blackberry molasses /Cheekie
LMAO!!!!! Ya’ll are trippin’…I haven’t mentioned it since last week. Hell, I was even off on Friday.
::shaking my head at you hating heffas::
*walks off singing–hate, hate on…
me fail english?– can you teach ‘em the words?
*sniggling*
@Cheekie & T Lee,
LOL!
@miss t-lee, you gonna stop showing off. you really are.
*lady cameroon up and down, SIDE EYE.
*youknowistillloveyou*
i sincerely hope these women got paid hardship rates for the hassle of having their mammaries flopping and bouncing around like that, it’s NO JOKE!
there’s no way i’d ever subject my precious D-cups to such punishment, just looking at this vid, i’m clutching at them in sympathy for these girls’ plight…
plus, there’s a REASON this vid was shot in slo-mo, the spectre of bouncing boobs in real-time isn’t all that pretty…. it actually looks painful…
@superwoman,
true.
as a long time big busted wonder and former high school athlete, my ta-ta’s would be down to my navel by now if i was runnin’ around like them girls in the vid.
i hope they got hazard pay. that shyt ain’t no kind of comfortable.
i foresee…. stretch marks.
@superwoman,
“everything looks better in slow-mo” – dave chapelle
@Chas,
that was one of the best skits EVER.
Ok I just watched it on my phone at the job and the video is the pucking fitts. Especially the acting lol. It looks like the saturday line up of Diamonds (Strip club in Miami. One time for the home town) But yeah they could have down better. Then again I hold all black people to a higher standard in hopes of making the max into the min and so on…………
@Double J,
“Especially the acting lol”
I’ve seen better acting in them flicks…if ya know what I mean…lmao
@Double J,
Know what’s funny. I wasn’t even checking for the vid til a few of my male twitter companions started talking about how bad it sucked. I thought it was boring and turned it off half way through. I was kinda surprised that ppl had more opinions on this vid than the other 3million rap videos just like it. Also, I woulda thought Drake would be a better actor than that. Then again, Degrassi aint exactly the big time.
@Me fail english?, i really need to understand why men were so upset with the video.
this truly baffles me.
@Panama Jackson,
Like someone said below (…or above…or both) no one can come up with a coherent reason to hate the video anymore than they do a million other videos just like it.
The most surprising part is, these dudes (God bless ‘em
) aren’t even the sharpest knives in the drawer. And far from the guys you’d expect to launch an argument against female exploitation.
But they are conspiracy theorists. The popular notion is that Kanye sabotaged Drake cuz he was hating. On what? Me no kno.
@Me fail english?,
“But they are conspiracy theorists. The popular notion is that Kanye sabotaged Drake cuz he was hating. On what? Me no kno.”
WHAT? lol
The stuff folks come up with. If this is indeed, true, then FAIL because Kanye’s name is attached to the video too since he directed it. Obviously…because folks keep mentioning he did.
@Me fail english?, i heard the sabotage argument. that’s so retarded i want to rake leaves.
and i hate raking leaves.
@Double J, One time for the hometown indeed!
Humh. I hadn’t seen this video until you posted it. When I was watching I was wondering if this Drake character was PR or something cus all the chicks looked like they were PR–not light Blacks. I also felt bad for those girls. If they keep up all this braless running, those that don’t all ready have titty tracks (stretchmarks) will end up with them. Plus, the braless run is never comfortable for anyone over an ‘A’ cup.
As for the general backlash, have all the women who love this song heard the unedited version? He still curses for no good reason.
The video actually had a lot to do with the song. “Best I Ever Had” is not a love song. He describes ”the best woman he ever had” as a shone in the lyric,”the other *oes are never on it”. The song is about telling women what they want to hear.
The disappointment from a lot of his fanbase comes from them not being in on the joke of the song, that the video revealed. When it comes to Drake women did what women tend to do *generalization* they only heard what they wanted to hear.
@Legendary Dash, AMEN
I was also glad to see more T than A in a video …..
Not everyone has a DONK … lol.. I thank Drake for representing women with some T!
@Legendary Dash, The disappointment from a lot of his fanbase comes from them not being in on the joke of the song, that the video revealed. When it comes to Drake women did what women tend to do *generalization* they only heard what they wanted to hear.
*sips coffee*
@Legendary Dash, Eh. The video did what it’s was supposed to do: Keep people talking about this Drake character.
@Legendary Dash,
i agree.
when i hear that song, i don’t hear some sweet love song…i don’t know how any woman actually believes that the song is saying something sweet about relationships and shyt. which is why i need to know who are all of these female Drake fans who love this song? seriously, who are all of these women who are going nuts of Drake?
@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall…., He appeals to the younger set. There were a lot of outraged and/or down beat facebook statuses after this video came out. I actually saw a couple of “Why Drake?….Why?” statuses out there. He had/has the potential to be the new(Lil) Bow Wow. He is handsome(as long as he has a hat on), and non-threatening. A lot of women seem to like that.
@Legendary Dash, it’s shame if he’s new Bow Wow status considering how he’s already over 21 to start with. i actually think quite a few under 30 women are feeling him too.
in fact, i know that’s true. i don’t know any under 21 chicks (aside from two cousins who haven’t said jack about him) so all of the responses about Drake have come from under 30 reading Black chicks.
@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….,
It was a crossover hit (to the extent a mixtape artist can crossover…) so I think ppl were listening to only the radio-edited chorus before.
For what it’s worth, I didn’t realize til last week that I had no idea what half of MJs songs were about!
@Me fail english?, Yep. They were only humming the hook.
How could Jimmy from Degrassi be so mean?
@Me fail english?,
that has to be it…people don’t listen to lyrics, they listen to the hook. I remember when some girls thought UGK International Players Anthem was some nice song for the ladies. um…no!!!
@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….,
lol. They only heard Andre 3000′s part, nevermind UGK tellin hoes to “choose”.
@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….,
“I remember when some girls thought UGK International Players Anthem was some nice song for the ladies”
Really? ‘da hell?
Clearly these were not for real UGK fans…lol
They musta been sold on that Willie Hutch sample.
@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall…., people don’t listen to lyrics, they listen to the hook.
that’s entire crux of pop music. that’s why it’s called the hook.
this is also why 50 Cent became so huge. he can write hooks. if you have a great hook, good lyrics are just the icing on the cake.
@Me fail, miss t-le, Panama
you are all correct.
re: Int’l Players Anthem, i think those girls got caught up in the sample, and Andre 3000(i would love to get caught up in Andre….)
and yes, most popular music is popular b/c of the hook.
@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….,
You’re right. I hear alot of people when asked why they like a song even if its not very good or degrading they always say how they “just like the beat”. I’m the opposite, I mostly only care about the lyrics and the hook.
I watched the video last Thursday after my homegirl sent me the link…we couldn’t stop laughing about the “take the D” references…lol then again, we’re silly.
Aside from the hilarious double entendres abound in the video, he phoned that ish in. I did get the video however, I just think he could have done a lot better. Especially with a hit song? Why does that ish look like it was recorded on a JVC at someone’s high school? The fluck outta here.
I could give a rat’s azz about boobs, light skinned chicks, stetching or anything else that people are trying to complain about…I just think the ish was madd lazy. It was like…we have no real concept, let’s just show a buncha half nekkid chicks and call it a video.
No sir, I don’t like it.
@miss t-lee,
There was a concept. The video was a metaphor.
In the monologue that introduces the song, he points to his disingenuous.
The team was the women that Drake is dating.
When pressed to tell them what he thinks of them he feeds them lines, “like you are the best.”
They buy into the BS he feeds them, and they play themselves.
When they play themselves they lose. Just like his fanbase who put him on the he’s a “different” kind of guy pedestal.
Drake’s problem may be that he is either to smart or too dumb for his own good. I can’t decide which it is yet.
@Legendary Dash,
Um…I got the video…I did say that in my comment right…lol
He has a team of chicks, he’s telling them they are all the best…when clearly they are not, the concept was not lost on me.
I just think they could have went about it from a different angle…but dah well. I’m just a chick who listens to music. I still think the vid was lazy.
You’re right though, he could be too smart or too dumb. The jury is still out.
@miss t-lee,
“He has a team of chicks, he’s telling them they are all the best…when clearly they are not, the concept was not lost on me. ”
Lol
@Legendary Dash, you know, i hadn’t looked at it like that.
if that was really his intention to basically point out that he’s telling all these chicks that, then they play themselves and STAY losing…well, he’s the most genius individual to record music in a long time.
somehow, i think they may have slipped into that metaphor as opposed to purposefully done it.
im just not ready to give kanye west that much credit since he’s clearly come out against books.
@Panama Jackson,
He came out against books so strong, too. with utter contempt in his voice…like those that read are the ignant bastids.
@miss t-lee,
Did nobody hear the “that’s an essential part of the game and that’s why I focus so much time on that but”
@kamakula,
No–I missed that line…I will hafta listen for it, if I watch it again…lol
@kamakula,
i heard it… maybe my funny bone is broken today? not even a grimace out of me. maybe a cringe.
@blackberry molasses,
lol. I was thinking, “I guess you had to be there. But wait, I was…”
@Me fail english?,
lmao
1. who are all of these women who love Drake? i don’t know any women in love with Drake, not any who are in love with his music. none of my friends or associates are enamored with Jimmy, and neither am I.
2. the video, well it’s just the same BS we’ve seen from the majority of hip-hop artists. except, Drake chose to focus a little more on the T than the A. Objectification by any other name….
3. as for the color thing(and all of the booby action), he is just playing to his audience, just like other actors, directors, producers, writers in movies and television. there aren’t many black women in television/movies (unless it’s a Tyler Perry production). why would you expect a music video featuring a various array of bouncing boobage to feature a black woman of a darker complexion?
or feature a black woman at all, since a lot of those girls in the vid appear a little ethnically ambiguous, which is probably the point.it’s just another form of the same media doing the same thing it has always done….@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….,
Yes! I’m 24, and perhaps on the older side as far as taste in music goes, but even my little teen/tween cousins/neices/neighbors aint feelin Drake like that. And a few of em are boy crazy. They like the song, probably don’t get the irony and still no Drake screensavers on the cell phone.
I stand by my theory (and I mean this in the least homoerotic way possible, really), that men are more physically attracted to Drake than women are.
@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….,
No ambiguity. Half of those women weren’t even black. If anything, that video was more diverse than people are giving him credit for – complaining there was a shortage of dark skinned women when he had a international buffet prepared.
@kamakula,
lol@international buffet.
playing devil’s advocate…dark(or darker/browner) skinned women can be diverse, too. even if he was going for “diversity”, he still could’ve chosen some darker ricans, haitians, brazilians, etc…,
i’m just saying, if “diversity” was really the goal….
@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….,
Furthermore, we forget that his music and videos are to appeal not only to black people, but to whites and others as well. It’s not his fault we tend to be the darkest of the population. Man’s got a business to run.
I’m sure on verysmart2520s.com, they’re all bemoaning the lack of luscious milky jugs in the video.
@kamakula,
I’m sure on verysmart2520s.com, they’re all bemoaning the lack of luscious milky jugs in the video.
why would they…they are very well represented in all forms of media…and not always as sex symbols on music videos and the cover of magazines.
@kamakula,
actually, i wouldn’t even call it a being a sex symbol, as a representation of sex, the embodiment of sex, to be used solely for that purpose….
“all the women are light, ethnically ambiguous to white looking women”
So is Drake. ”
Ooookay?! I was about to type this. Let’s not forget that point.
@miss t-lee, okay, it’s not forgotten.
but what does that have to do with anything? are we saying b/c Drake’s like that, it only makes sense to cast women like that?
are we giving him a pass for that?
btw, i dont care one way or another, im just wondering if this is like the “pass” i get if i ever wanted to date which chicks b/c my mother is white.
@Panama Jackson,
You know I don’t care about the color of folks in the videos. I’m just saying that people are quick to point out that all the chicks in the video are all the same complexion.
My point is who cares? Are you really that upset that they didn’t use any video broads to represent you?
I’d rather you not represent me period.
@miss t-lee, thats bc your state is fully represented in Congress.
you know who represents me?
nobody. i have a shadow delegate who only gets to vote if it doesnt make a difference.
taxation without representation.
hmm…what was my point again?
“Are you really that upset that they didn’t use any video broads to represent you? I’d rather you not represent me period.”
BIG ASS CO-SIGN
Oh e-twinny….how do I love thee? Let me count the ways….
@8th Wonder,
Generally, when I hear well-articulated complaints about the light-skinned/dark-skinned issue in music videos, I don’t interpret the motive to be because black women are looking for “video hoes” to represent them. I certainly don’t and I suppose tht most women with some amount of self-esteem also don’t look to “video hoes” to represent them. Rather, the issue is about standards of beauty and what is considered desirable in mainstream media. The dirth of black women, particularly dark-skinned women, in prominent roles in Hollywood has already been noted and I think it’s fair to say that media does have some influence on our personal conceptions of what’s attractive and thus how men and women ultimately interact with one another. So, the constant portrayal of light-skinned beauty as the pinnacle of beauty has trickle-down effects that extend beyond who I feel represents me.
@Classic,
well said. Welcome??
@Classic,
*nods enthusiastically”
We are >>>here<<< with that comment.
@Classic,
I hear what you’re saying, and I understand the historical reasons why people get up in arms when lighter women are soley displayed in these mediums, but honestly, that doesn’t concern me. What concerns me more is that people perpetuate the light skin vs. dark skin issue by continuing to make it an issue.
If we’re going to be upset about women being exploited in videos (or anywhere, really), can we just speak on WOMEN as a whole? I’ve never seen Black people as one end of the spectrum being better than the other, and I realize that may be a rare way of thinking. But if I’m going to be pissed off because there are women showing thier bodies just to make a buck in a video, my first thought will NEVER be, “OMG, look at her! She’s so light skinned!”, it will be “OMG, that woman is naked!”
But I understand your point of view.
@miss t-lee,
“all the women are light, ethnically ambiguous to white looking women”
So is Drake. ”
Given the propensity to favor darker chicks that lightskindeded dudes have, I wouldn’t be surprised if he had darker girls in there…but then again, it’s a music video so, yeah…I’d be surprised.
It didn’t suck because it was drake, it sucked because it didn’t have a point. Even the worst videos try to make a point.
But in other news i need help! I’m going to myrtle beach next week with my girls and have NO clue about the area, and where to go to hangout. If you have any suggestions pls. e-mail me at: written03@email.com. Thanks
@melekaj,
it had a point and sh*t.
@The Champ,
oh I bet….
you know what, never mind. Even I think what I’m about to say is in poor taste.
@blackberry molasses,
*giggling*
To piggyback (still can’t reply from my phone) off Nicky Sunshine–
Dude is grossly overrated, the song is wack (the uncensored version sounds even worse, I’m sure), and I bet the video is more wacktastic than it sounds…
In short, NEXT.
*giggling*
[oops, wrong email.]
Almost forgot: is it just me or does Drake resemble a broke arse Vin Diesel (redundant?harsh?both? Discuss.) when he doesn’t shave? Ok, now I’m done.
*begins commute to work*
Hater
I think that the song and video was ingenious. As Legendary Dash mentioned up thread, chicks thought that the song was nice. Ppl thought he was telling chicks that they are the best and actually meant it. No he lied, he was lying the whole time. I think it’s pretty obvious. The video shows this perfectly.
Also, he can show all the light skin big boobie girls he wants b/c he’s racially ambiguous and the love of boobies comes from his white side.
@Peysonic Temple, whoa, slow down now…I don’t think it was “ingenious”, it was GIRLS GONE WILD with mulatto d-cup chicks and better music. Let’s not make this the second coming of the THRILLER video lol
@T. Troy Stewart,
LMFAO @ the very THOUGHT of this video becoming the Thriller of today.
@T. Troy Stewart,
#1) Thriller, in terms of production, performance and overall quality was and still is untouchable. However, the theme isnt that great.
2) I think the video aligns with the song perfectly. I also think that the song is ingenious because it got a whole bunch of chicks to like their role as playing second fiddle. Sounds ingenious to me.
@Peysonic Temple, I didn’t even think the video had anything to do with the song at all. Now that I think about it, after the first time I watched, I turned the sound down…
@Peysonic Temple, i like the video too. not in a, it’s a good video kind of way.
more in a i like Ray J kind of way. it entertains me.
@Peysonic Temple, as if Blacker brothers absolutely HATE knockers….smh. That always got on my nerves.
Though the fact that girls with phat rumps are 99.9% likely to be booed up is no coincidence. Those girls are handcuffed and knocked up by 17 without fail.
@Stuff Ghetto People Like,
what about chicks with T & A?
what aboooout meee? – J. Hud
I was ever so disgusted at this video. Each of the five times that I watched it, I found something new to be mad about. I know that there’s more to be upset about, so I’m going to watch it again.
@T. Troy Stewart,
LMAO!!! Now this is a man dedicated to the research!
@T. Troy Stewart,
*laughing loudly*
Watch on, playa. Watch on.
@T. Troy Stewart, a man after my own heart.
@T. Troy Stewart,
Please return with your findings. And while you’re at it, write a dissertation.
@Cheekie,
Can you write an entire dissertation with one hand free? Let’s ask The Champ.
@Me fail english?,
*rimshot*
I wasn’t mad at D’Angelo’s “untitled” video. I was pissed off that Halle Berry didn’t do an follow up/answer/rebuttal video rubbing her nips and ask “how does it feel”?
@T. Troy Stewart, Halle’s track record points to it not feeling “THAT” good.
@Legendary Dash, she makes me feel good
“He’s a good rapper/singer combo guard”
I haven’t listened to his album, but all his singing in this song is auto-tune. That and his regular talking voice during the skits is kinda high. The lyrics are solid, but this song and video are not memorable at all, especially since women in jerseys is not the look imo.
@An Island,
download “so far gone” it’s his mixtape that came out in feb. it had my vote for mixtape of the year candidate after 3 listens and still has it.
http://octobersveryown.blogspot.com/2009/02/drake-so-far-gone.html
i just did you all a favor, thank me later.
I agree with some of the others that it’s not that big a deal because it doesn’t look any different than most other rap videos. Maybe some of those women had crushes on Drake and were expecting more out of him because he was on Degrassi or because he’s light skinndeded or a sinapper/rapinger.
@pinksghetti,
I’m not talking to myself I just have an editorial comment, lol.
Speaking of music. I just need to clarify my recent statement regarding the whole “Couples who you won’t see together”. I didn’t mean that a person can’t love Opera, hip-hop and heavy metal. I meant that it is unlikely to see a person who Only likes Opera dating/marrying someone who Only likes hip-hop or Only likes heavy-metal. I love all types of music (Opera isn’t the best to me but I’m also not a big metal lover either). Also if you guys think that this love match can happen then more power to you. I had to get that off my chest because I want the uncouths like me to get along with the sophisticated Opera lovers, lol.
me personally, i don’t really understand the hype around drake. i honestly don’t think he’d have blown up as much if chris brown hadn’t been outed as a wifebeater right round the time the mainstream started taking notice of him. i think he lucked out as there was a space in the industry’s “light-skinned-boy” market.
as for the video, it just made my boobs hurt watching it. didn’t make me mad or anything, i figure it’s pretty standard BET fare and nothing more than what i expected from an artist i consider mediocre.
@puff, The reason I think Panama makes entries about him is because he is hoping that Drake helps to usher in a new Al B. Surean era of light-skinned brother ascendancy. Chris Brown set the movement back about 3 years.
@Legendary Dash, dammit….i’ve been outed.
i’m trying to get some more attention for the light skint brothas.
heavens to mergatroids!
@Panama Jackson, I had to out you. Your plans will be foiled. It is time for the brown-skinned brothers to finally get our shine.
@Legendary Dash, y’all ninjas been shining for years.
its mostly cuz of baby oil….but you been shining.
@Panama,
LOL!
@Legendary Dash,
LOL! You make it sound like their pod people tryna take over the world and impregnate all the womenfolk.
@Me fail english?, That is exactly how I view them, and their even more evil counterparts, the dark-skinned brothers. They are always trying to freeze the inbetween brothers out.
@Legendary Dash,
We, in betweenies need to mount a stunningly whiny campaign to make sure we get our just due and sh!t. We’re like the red-headed step-children of the black race! But not even red-headed, cuz nobody knows we’re alive. We’re like the flowers in the attic!
For what it’s worth, You in-betweens are my favorite.
@ Me fail english?
“We’re like the flowers in the attic!”
Oh heyll naw!!! LMAO
@me fail english,
OMG, no you DIDN’T break out with the Flowers in the Attic ref! AHAHAHAHA.
In other words, WORD. We are the middle child in every sense of the world. We are in the middle…we’re best of both worlds…why only the extremes get their “time”. Why can’t we get us some VH1 specials dedicated to us?
I saw the video and as a female, I wasn’t offended. I think I’m just immune due to all the tooties and bitties that have been videos, significantly, within the past 10 years! You right, the video has nothing to do with the song…and um…yeah…that’s really all I have to say about it. Definitely not worth me searching youtube…should’ve had a coonish dance to go with it….lol
iKeed, iKeed!
i personally loved the video. it has bad chicks, cameos, a storyline, and comedy. stop being greedy, word to earl simmons.
i’ve heard many ppl shyt on this video, but no one can really give explanations on WHY the video is wack.
i was dying at the mighty ducks reference…i’m from minnesota and went to school with a bunch of kids who were in the movie, so i felt that one
@Carver The Great!,
“i was dying at the mighty ducks reference…”
Yeah, I was expecting that at ALL, and I thought it was hilarious. It sorta dirtied up an innocent childhood dream, but it was funny nonetheless. Probably because it was unexpected.
@Carver The Great!,
if your favorite song of the moment)had a video that showed men figure-skating with their buttcheeks hangin out you wouldn’t feel any kinda way? u wouldn’t wonder why they destroyed your song?
by no means am i saying this is my favorite song, or really that i have some major problem with the video.
i just question drake’s intelligence. and as previously mentioned, we will see just how intelligent he is soon enough.
@Chas,
Good point. I remember seing the video for “Mo Money, Mo Problems” and being like “WTF is this BS?”
@Me fail english?,
LOL.
I guess the “mo problems” translates dancing around in an anti-gravity chamber while wearing Hefty bag jogging suits. I’d figure that was a MAJOR problem in need of severe solving.
Also, Puffy is a problem in and of itself.
@Chas,
i get what you’re saying…but dayum, men figure skating with cheeks showing will ruin ANYTHING, not just my favorite song’s video.
as far as intelligence, does creating a big enough buzz to perform at award shows with no album out and owning his master’s for his first record deal count?
@Carver The Great!,
lmao true.
and it does, if you sell records later on.
but that’s not all his doing. AND “signing” with young money is not the best idea ever.
look at tyga. jae millz. well look at everybody besides lil wayne.
**goes off to wait for that omarion album**
Young Money!
C’mon man! I say this while aknowledging the fact that yes, while you are a heterosexual man who of course may be turned on by scantily clad women flopping their tits and arses (light skint or whatever) in a video for a song that has nothing to do with it, it does not make it okay for it to exist for several reasons:
1. The objectification of women is oft worn stereotype of hip hop videos. I’m tired of it, and I don’t think I am the only one.
2. Debates over the objectification and exploitation of women aside, artistically speaking the video was horrible! We need higher standards. Sh@t, “Flashing Lights” (versions one and two) was at least interesting for the first couple of days they aired and showed some creativity.
3. To expand upon number 3, I believe artists have become lazy and continuously put out crap to be consumed by the hungry masses (Kanye). When someone who is supposed to be your ally (Jay Z) creates a song that is basically a 3 minute chastisement then you should listen and respond.
Honestly I don’t really care about Drake and didn’t expect to be blown away by his video. This doesn’t mean that I should constantly expect to be insulted or disgusted by hip hop videos either.
@RObleu,
You know what, I’m desensitized when I’m watching it alone. Had I watched this with my neices at 3 in the afternoon on basic cable, I’d be hot! you can’t even flip through the networks without some lady having an herbal essences induced orgasm in the shower. You’re right. I’m totally sick of this shet.
MeFail’s note: I guess it’s pretty obvious that I don’t watch TV anymore. Does Herbal Essences still exist?
@Me fail english?,
I call Mary Ju Anna “Herbal Essence”…but something is telling me you’re talking about the shampoo…
Never mind…lol
@K to the…,
Somebody say Herb? Where?
@CPT Callamity,
damn pothead…
*hides stash and Phillies in back pocket*
@RObleu, okay…but why does Drake have to be all of that? i’m not offended or disgusted in the slightest. i dont think he did anything to harm hip-hop with the video or set back the women’s movement or anything.
but to speak to your points
1) i’m indifferent to it at this point. the chicks showed up and agreed to do it. ho hum. i’m not going to use Drake to champion against objectification of women, especially since if it doesn’t happen in the video, it will just happen in life. should it be so prominent? no. but it is. and it’s perpetuated by both men and women.
2) do we need higher video standards? really? why? is every video supposed to be some shining experiment in artistic expression and envelope-pushing? i dont think so. in fact, this is the very reason that despite not thinking Tyler Perry is making great movies, i can’t lament his existence. hell, he’s making movies you dont have to think to see…it’s a necessary evil.
3) let’s be real. jay’s song was as lazy as you’re claiming kanye is. D.O.A. first two verses don’t have sh*t to do with auto-tune. his last verse does, but really, the song was much like Nas’ album, “hip hop is dead” he titled it grandiosely and made a song that was more bark than bite. i also think your example misses b/c kanye is probably the one dude who’s constantly TRYING to make creative videos. not with every one, but most of the time he tries.
@Panama Jackson,
Thank you, I just don’t have the energy today
@Panama Jackson,Every video does not have to be some shining example of artistic genius but dang it we still should have higher standards.
Variety may be the spice of life but there’s way too much salt in the mix. I have BET induced hypertension.
I too applaud Tyler Perry’s efforts although I may sleep during some of his movies.
In my argument I did acknowledge the fact that Kanye has made some more creative videos but this one was a miss.
For the record, I am not one of the women who crushed hard on him and had fantasies of him singrapping “Best I Ever Had” to me. He doesn’t do it for me aesthetically speaking but that’s not the issue here.
The video was tired especially for his first.
LOL…I don’t get the hype either I guess thats what happens when a genre is super anemic……
@OrangeStar616,
I don’t get the hype either, but since 10 out of 28 of my students’ first college papers were on the awesomeness that is Drake, I wonder if I’m missing something. Then again, these kids are like 13 years my junior, so the generation gap has something to do with it.
And for the record, if you write a Drake paper for my college composition class, I WILL draw a sad face on it.
@madam_ori, 10 students ACTUALLY wrote college papers on Drake??!?!?
FAIL.
@Panama Jackson, I don’t believe the children are our future.
@T. Troy Stewart, i don’t believe THESE children are our future. the rest? possibly.
@madam_ori,
Lol. How much could you possibly write about “Drake”. He’s been “wheelchari Jimmy” for most of his career. Do we even know his real name?
@Me fail english?,
“Do we even know his real name?”
Yep…lol
@Me fail english?, yeah, it’s Aubrey.
he looks like an Aubrey.
@madam_ori,
wow!!
@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall: It’s depressing. They had an opportunity to write an argument of definition, and many of them argued that Drake should be included in the pantheon of great rap artists. Then there were five Kid Cudi papers. I was horrified and shocked to say the least.
@ Panama: not just FAIL, but EPIC FAIL.
@madam_ori, why in the living f*ck would ANYBODY write a paper on Kid Cudi???
he has ONE legit record, and its more for the beat than him.
i’m confused by your students.
@madam_ori, honestly,
kid cudi papers > drake papers
@Chas, how on earth would a kid cudi paper be better than a drake paper?
i mean they both probably suck, but at least Drake has a story. Cudi has a song that’s only good b/c of the beat. his mixtape songs where he raps suck.
he’s only good when he’s singing, and even then its just b/c of the music.
i guess my point is that neither of them is paper worthy, but if i had to pick one, it would totally be Drake.
@madam_ori,
your students make me understand my mother’s frustration… and frightens my with my impending own.
Whitney LIED!
@madam_ori, oh my. i hope this is a freshman class. at least they didn’t write a paper on soulja boy…or did they?!?
@panama,
“day n nite”, “the prayer”, and “man on the moon” are arguably much more introspective than anything drake has done up to this point.
in a kinda semi-deep sorta way.
drake’s problems involve girls, havin too much money, and being too famous.
and mainly cuz cudi be drunk alot. and high alot.
but i love drake more. no worries.
@madam_ori,
“And for the record, if you write a Drake paper for my college composition class, I WILL draw a sad face on it.”
Which will look like HIS face, which is forever sad. Like folks say, he is Droopy. Like, his face is an entire House of Wax exhibit.
@Cheekie,
I wonder, if we held him upside down would he look happy again?
@Me fail english?,
Bwahahahahaah!
iHate that iLove u and wish i knew how to quit you.
I am not a Drake fan but I appreciate him making this video. I guess some women are disappointed because they may have made him out to be somebody he isn’t. Some women do this to a lot of rappers. Common and ATCQ are examples of this.
I want to thank Drake again for this video and thank him for featuring Rosa Acosta and her athletic ability.
@Humble_One, im glad you pointed out Common.
he’s another rapper who i think gets more credit than his catalog should probably allow.
i really think that when it comes to hip-hop, (many) women hear what they want, and get tunnel vision.
@Panama Jackson,
I think Common really did get more female friendly by the third album.
Drake on the other hand talks about wanting “The money/ money and the cars/cars and the clothes/…hoes…I suppose” (ok, maybe that was Trey) and “Replacement Girls” on the very same disc. Now that just confounds me as to why ppl would think he was a sweetheart…
Then again, I’m sure they DID hear all that but [Chris Rock] He aint talkin bout ME!
@Me fail english?, Then again, I’m sure they DID hear all that but [Chris Rock] He aint talkin bout ME!
LOL.
@Me fail english?,
“Replacement Girl” wasn’t on his So Far Gone mixtape…at least not the version I downloaded from his blog…
@K to the…,
It’s on Comeback Season. His 2nd mixtape.
@Panama Jackson, eh, gotta disagree with you there p-jeezy (sorry, just felt right). i don’t think common got the credit he deserved till he dropped Be. he did a concert at my school the fall after that album dropped, and i’d say about 60% of the concert goers thought Be was his first cd.
wait what was my point again? i need food.
First off, thanks a lot, Panama. I’ve had this song in my head since Sunday. My cousin started singing it, then talk of the video had me going to YouTube to view it yesterday, then they played it this morning on MTV. And now VSB is writing a topic about it?! GAH!
Things I like about the Drake vid:
- The “take that D” reference. I thought that was very clever.
- The perplexing debate I had with myself as to whether he is truly singing that higher octave part in the song. Is that him? I remember Tigger or some other BET VJ fool was praising him on how he can sing AND rap well.
- How he does a nice imitation of the Weezy voice when he says “Young Money”. I swore that was Weez.
Now. Onto your question. *puts thinking cap on*
“I’ve often wondered if Black women would feel better if the exploitation was more diverse? A lot of the arguments about videos is that all the women are light, ethnically ambiguous to white looking women. If they were all darkskint, would that be better? Is exploitation more palatable as long as everybody gets their shot to be exploited?”
Nope. Exploitation is exploitation. But putting that aside for a hot min, the whole lightskint thang is a problem because even thought exploitation is wrong, it’s still of the assumption that what they are exploiting is beautiful and wanted. So, despite women not wanting to be thought of as objects, the conundrum here is: “I don’t wanna be no stank video ho, but that’s obviously what men want because they keep shoving it my face. And I don’t look like her. Thus, I’m not what men want. *pout*”. Hopefully, most of us are able to take a step back and separate the video world from reality, but the media is so subconciously zapped into our being that even the most level-headed chick can be affected, at the least.
Aside: There were a LOT of floppy boobies in that video.
@Cheekie, much like wu-tang, exploitation is for the children.
@Panama Jackson,
“exploitation is for the children”
You knew this was coming…
T-shirt!
@Cheekie,
Nope. Exploitation is exploitation. But putting that aside for a hot min, the whole lightskint thang is a problem because even thought exploitation is wrong, it’s still of the assumption that what they are exploiting is beautiful and wanted. So, despite women not wanting to be thought of as objects, the conundrum here is: “I don’t wanna be no stank video ho, but that’s obviously what men want because they keep shoving it my face. And I don’t look like her. Thus, I’m not what men want. *pout*”. Hopefully, most of us are able to take a step back and separate the video world from reality, but the media is so subconciously zapped into our being that even the most level-headed chick can be affected, at the least.
i agree with all of this….
@N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….,
Yes, well said. Sometimes I assume this obvious but as evidenced in alot of the comments today, not so much. I also get tired of explaining it.
@Me fail english?,
Yeah, it’s a tiresome cyclical discussion. And it should be obvious by now, but it’s not I guess. Maybe it’s that whole subconscious media thing I noted above. Which, of course, it being subconscious period is intentional on the bigwigs’ part.
@Cheekie,
it’s still of the assumption that what they are exploiting is beautiful and wanted.
indeed. agreed.
@Cheekie,
it’s still of the assumption that what they are exploiting is beautiful and wanted….
…by Drake.
I still don’t see the issue. Color me (dark-skinned) clueless.
i actually think the video is cute and witty, i mean we all know what we can do in 2 minutes. hahahaha… but i am also a lightskint chick with big boobs who happens to play basketball. LOL. go figure. i think people have nothing other to do but find stuff to be upset about. it’s a freaking music video. chill people!!!
@T-Dawg,
” but i am also a lightskint chick with big boobs who happens to play basketball. LOL. go figure”
Are you in the video too?
@Humble_One,
She said she actually plays basketball! Maybe she was on the winning team.
@Me fail english?,
LOL!!!!!!!
@T-Dawg,
“i actually think the video is cute and witty, i mean we all know what we can do in 2 minutes.”
Yeah, that was a good line, too.
@T-Dawg,
welcome and sh*t.
i am a man.
i love women and jigglies.
drake’s video was wack.
@SouthernCharm,
Dang…where you been? lol
@miss t-lee,
getting my mike jack on… working day and night. lol
@SouthernCharm,
Ain’t nothing wrong with that!!! Good to see ya back.
@SouthernCharm,
“i am a man.
i love women and jigglies.
drake’s video was wack.”
I was sitting here looking like a plum fool counting on my fingers, desparately wishing the above was a haiku. *sad face*
@Cheekie
LMAO
@Cheekie,
lmao. nerd.
@The BDay GEM,
I’m a self-aware nerd at least. lol
*pushes up glasses*
@Cheekie,
HAHA! I love you.
@Cheekie,
hahahahahahahahaha *snort* <—– geek laugh
@SouthernCharm,
Dude, where have you been? We were about to put out an Amber Alert on you
@blackberry molasses, “We were about to put out an Amber Alert on you”
around these parts that is known as a D*stroy Dpain alert.
Drake/Kanye definitely accomplished their goal of starting conversation, and hopefully that’s all they were trying to do.
And I stand by my theory that “Best I Ever Had” is a tribute to the great Eli Porter, NOT a song about respecting the ladies.
@Kindred Smile,
Eli Porter = G.O.A.T.
@Me fail english?,
Not the Eli Porter…dayum!!!
*off to listen to the “I Really Mean It” instrumental…lol
@miss t-lee,
Oh you mad cuz he stylin’ on you!
*ducks punch*
2007=great year in hip hop…unless that was ’06
@Me fail english?,
Oh…you’re on a roll today chickie…lol
@Kindred Smile,
Omg, you are thee best (mayne) for that theory. You deeeed it.
Okay, now that I got the obvious outta the way.
Seriously, you da best for that theory. It is truth. Set in stone from this day forth.
@Kindred Smile,
eli porter and i a) attended the same high school and b) graduated in the same class.
he was a legend then and is a legend now.
to counteract whatever you may think of me now, i’m an engineer, no trains. speaking of which, perhaps i should get back to my job.
@Chas,
no, don’t do that. all the cool kids spend all day on VSB… gainful employment be d@mned!
I dont know if someone pointed this out in the prior comments – but you know Drake’s character on Degrassi *did* coach the school girls basketball team at one point. Perhaps he was drawing from his own acting experience in creating the concept for this video. LOL. I just watched a few bits here on there just now. I expect all vids of this nature to have excessiveness at this point – doesn’t mean its right tho.
@swt cheeks,
welcome and sh*t, swt cheeks (i think)
I didn’t get it either. If backlash was deserved, then it is deserved for all these other random videos as well. WTH were people expecting? LOL
@ChiChi, me no know. i think they’re expecting good sh*t. don’t they know this is hip-hop??!?
I’m a Drake fan. I enjoy So Far Gone, and listen to it a a lot.
I thought the video was freakin hilarious, I especially died at “But Drake, all you taught us to do was stretch!”, and “We all know what we can do in two minutes”
I mean come on folks, laugh a little!
I don’t get upset with music videos anymore, because its all crap, and I think one should know that off break before you even watch it. Why anyone at this point in the game has all these expectations from entertainers, I will never understand. It is what it is, and what it is NOT…is real life.
And put all the yella girls in a video that you want, my milky chocolate doesn’t feel threatened or left out OR offended. Maybe its I’m strange, maybe I don’t weigh my self-worth by which video vixens are hot this season, I dunno…but I really just don’t care.
@8th Wonder,
“Maybe its I’m strange, maybe I don’t weigh my self-worth by which video vixens are hot this season, I dunno…but I really just don’t care.”
Missed you round these parts chick!
@8th Wonder, PREACH. this is why i love you.
@puff: amusing yet interesting theory.
@Peysonic Temple:
Hate(r) deez.
Guess what song I heard two girls singing in their car when I went for a walk during my work break. Give up? Just to clarify the two girls looked very much like the girls in the video minus the tig ol’ bitties (and they were teens).
@pinksghetti, Guess what song I heard two girls singing in their car when I went for a walk during my work break.
grandma’s hands by bill withers??
Quick aside, I bet a lot of these same folks hating on Drake, was loving Tip’s Breathe and Stop and Vivrant Thing. But I’m not here to point out the hip hop hypocrites, that’s old.
What’s really odd about this video is that it even exists.
There was a time when having a good video made a difference. You and your people would gather around the box to watch, The Box, Rap City, Yo MTV Rap’s, or for you po folks, Pump it Up. You got hype for the song, and you prolly heard it only on the late night mix shows of your local black station, (before it was called the “hip hop and R&B station”). All this, plus a good review in the source, had you heading down to the store to cop the tape/lp/cd.
These days,
- where MTV will show Star Wars,
- VH-1 is about Celeb-reality,
- I won’t even mention BET
Rap videos don’t really matter.
Most stations don’t have a dedicated block.
The dedicated stations to rap vids aren’t popular.
Most views of a video, usually come via one of those popular hip hop blogs. And that’s only for the 1st day or so.
You think you’re lil cousin’s n’nem is really watching La La on the countdown? And even if they did, who is so internet dumb that they can’t find a DL site?
Does Drake know this?
Kanye?
Their record label?
Their accountants?
Message!
@WestIndianArchie, sometimes i do wonder why people make videos. especially big budget videos.
then again, i also wonder why the caged bird sings (word to NIA).
good luck trying to explain to your little daughters/sisters/nieces why they shouldn’t worry about finding a man who loves them for their mind while watching this video.
a rule of thumb that one should remember is if your can’t tell Nikki Giovanni that you’re “jiggling basketball player #4″ in the Drake video…maybe you should re-ASSess thangs.
to my darker skinned sistas who are complaining about no one of your complexion being featured in the Drake video…
you do realize that it’s the Drake video and not the March From Selma To Montgomery, right? I wouldn’t care that Swisher Sweet Kanye and ol’ Chester Cheetah without the fur Drake didn’t choose you to be in that double d exploitation vid. Hold your heads high.
@T. Troy Stewart,
LOL
@T. Troy Stewart,
LOL @ Chester Cheetah. Dude does look like a wax museum feature.
as for Drake/Kanye’s attempt to stir up controversy with this video, okay, anybody can do that. Six months from now will anybody even remember it, that’s the question?
@T. Troy Stewart, yes? no?
I NEED TO KNOW THE ANSWER!!!!! WHAT IS IT?!?!?!
@T. Troy Stewart,
Probably not. The general concensus is that in terms of female exploitation, it ain’t nothing new so I doubt it’ll be the representative of the topic when discussed years from now.
I like boobies.
I really do.
I liked the boobies bouncing on screen.
That video sucked though.
Kanye is a wack an unoriginal video director.
Missed Opportunity if you ask me.
Although I will watch again for a second opinion.
i actually thought the video had a campy/parody feel. kind of like kill bill volume 1, or planet terror, where the violence and gore is so intentionally gratuitous that it becomes a joke.
to me it was two people (drake and kanye) delivering a serious “deez” to everyone who assumed the vid would be something it wasn’t, and i always appreciate an apropos application of deez (no bruno)
@The Champ,
And after watching the video, that’s my feel as well…
Besides, Kanye is well-known for his camp-y/parody style anyways. Why are people up in arms and/or surprised? Is it all because MJ’s gone?
Can someone please tell me what video they thought was GREAT in the past couple of years? I’ll even go farther in the past 5 -10 years?
We are always on the lookout for something to have an opinion on… so I guess it’s the natural order of things.
“We are always on the lookout for something to have an opinion on… ”
Yup, and some things just aren’t worth wasting brain power on.
I love the video, especially the cut scenes. TAKE THAT D!!!!
Dam this is crazy I just saw the video last night for the first time.
1) I guess he was a actor but he sucks at actin in the video but with all those lungs in his face it woulda been hard to act very very hard
2) Dont hate Kanye he likes Boobs and from a CEO record selling aspect they had to make the video like that.
WHy? cause from what I heard Drake already has the girls panties in his hand but they wanna get the dudes to be like ok I guess he is cool. So boom make a video for the guys now I/guys kno who Drake is. But will I buy his CD? Hell to the naw, not my style really i hate the mainstream.
3) Storyline sucked they even lost the game but it was fun watchin um lose
4)better video my Homie The jacka “shorty all ova me” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rK3WFcg3mMU
I think my biggest issue is not so much gender or race but it just seems lazy; a lack of creativity and thought. I think people think Drake is a breath of fresh air. There are high expectations because his approach is that he’s better than most, so his visual representation of his music should be better than most. He has created music/image that people have bought into it and now he has to live up to it.
I think chalking it up to him “still being a man” is a cheap shot. Are you a great artist or not?
@Jewels, are we ready to call Drake a great artist though?
i dont even think the video is lazy. do you realize how physically fit those chicks are in that video?
plus…the stretching.
that video is the most.unlazy.thing.ever.
What’s with the reduce editing period? By the time my browser refreshes and shows my comment, I’ve only got 5 seconds to make any changes.
@kamakula,
Word to the webmaster (aka Lizzie darling!)
@kamakula, get it right the first time, gangsta. lol.
@Panama Jackson,
get it right the first time deez
this is so random and completely off topic. but at my mtg yesterday i was talking about Idris and his sexilicious self and one of the women there said “who is that?” i was too stunned and appalled to even give her a proper side eye. i couldnt believe it!!!!! and even after she saw the picture she was like “oh, he’s ok.”
*smdh* i swear she’s not human.
@The BDay GEM,
I actually didn’t get his appeal ’til I started watching The Wire DVDs. Hot. Dayum. Stringer Bell done did it. *sizzle*
@The BDay GEM,
“oh, he’s ok.”
*throat punch*
Ionno, I know this has been discussed on this site before, but I really think there is a fine line between objectifying the female form in a negative way and appreciating the female form…. well scratch that – since any artist who puts a video out for mass consumption via MTV, VH1 and BET is objectifying their self and the females that they use in their videos are also objectifying themselves where is the line? I do think that the artist bares a certain amount of responsibility for the content of their work because they are putting it out for mass consumption. It’s not being delivered in a gallery or an art house exclusively for the consumption of those who patronize that particular artist- it’s in rotation for all to see and hear. And yes, it is a parent’s ultimate responsibility to raise their children and yes people have to esteem themselves, but does that mean that we shouldn’t expect the esteem of others? As far as boobs are concerned to me – they are boobs. Like no big deal, but where is the line? And yeah, Drake is racial ambiguous, and male, but doesn’t he owe a little something to his fan base? We all know the impact of media on all of our perception, so is it a lot to ask of an artist to be a little considerate of the people who buy their music and support their careers? idk… just a bit of a rant.
@pgh muse, And yeah, Drake is racial ambiguous, and male, but doesn’t he owe a little something to his fan base?
but what does he owe?
this is a huge argument i have with myself a lot. how much responsiblity does the artist have to the masses? who does he owe? hell, to this point, nobody even PAID for any Drake material. it’s all free.
Still can’t beat those breasts.
@Legendary Dash,
could all you brown skinndeded folk politely fall back?
this don’t involve y’all… it neva did!
LMAO
@blackberry molasses,
woah, Twilight Zone moment… I swear this reply was meant for Me Fail…
what’s going on here…
@blackberry molasses,
Hot chocolate> coffee and lemonade. U Mad?
HAHAHA
@Me fail english?,
“Hot chocolate> coffee and lemonade.”
The above is an official mathematical equation. Will Hunting solved it and everything. It is the only truth.
blackberry molasses’ response had me so perplexed though. I was wondering what brown skin folks had to do with not beating breasts. I thought there was Da Vinci code up in that comment or something that was lost on me.
@Me fail english?,
not really… seeing as my old handle used to be Hershey’s Special Dark. I freakin’ match the candy bar.
@blackberry molasses,
Chips Ahoy> Oreos or Lemon cookies
@me fail english,
Even though Oreos are my favorite cookie, I still have to co-sign the above in theory.
Besides, liking Oreos may just be my preference in MEN, but I’m still a Chips Ahoy.
@blackberry molasses,
chocolate dipped oreo cookie>>>> alla y’all. word.
@blackberry molasses,
The brown-skinned will no longer bloom in the attic. The world must recognize our beauty. Our time is now.
@Legendary Dash, numerous RedTube clips beg to differ….
The preceding was a triple entendre.
BTW, gotta love how the VSSes are giving up the body stats in today’s comments.
Can’t wait for the yearbook to come out.
@Stuff Ghetto People Like,
I think the VSSes are applying to be in the VSB music video. I mean, we’d be video hos, but we’d be very smart ones.
@Cheekie,
lol!!
On an unrelated note, people at Staples Center are getting the show of a lifetime right now. The bwoy John Mayer is going off on “Human Nature.”
Some of these recent tributes should be on record for sure.
@Stuff Ghetto People Like,
I think there are plans for an album and a DVD. If there aren’t they are STUPID for not planning it.
@blackberry molasses,
I will buy that album and DVD (even in Blu-Ray if I have to)
@Sula,
BET take notes
@BLUNTBLAZER, BET should be ashamed of themselves. They ran some little boy from England out and that kid’s tiger striped underwear had more class than four hours of the BET Awards. If somebody would have told me that Magic Johnson telling stories about him and MJ eating KFC would have came off better than just about anything the BET Awards did, I would have laughed. But that’s just what happened. Sad.
@Stuff Ghetto People Like,
Yep…I’ve been watching from the beginning…lol
My comment corrections: #31 was for BBMo; #53a* was for Legendary Dash. I finally figured out how to read through the comments/replies.
*the “deez” in #53b still applies…and Drake is still wack.
I apologize for any confusion this may have caused. Thankyouandgoodnight.
I’m still trying to figure out how this kid built any buzz at all. I’ve heard the mixtape and I’ve listened to this song more times than I care to admit, tryna figure out what in his generic ass flow is so compelling.
I’m stumped.
The only thing I can think of is that for some reason, people are easily marketed to and don’t want to be the odd person out in their immediate circle to admit that dude has zero talent.
And by that I mean, there’s a bassline competency that MOST rappers in the industry have. For me, its can speak English, marginally + biting Jay = good enough to bowl over most listeners with no real understanding or appreciation of hip-hop.