one of the most dependable relationship tenets is the fact that when its blatantly obvious that a man is in a committed relationship, there’s a certain segment of women (read: “all“) who will begin to find him more attractive. from latent self-esteem and “distant daddy” issues to the fact that men in relationships generally aren’t pressed to find new pu**y (an attractive quality in the eyes of most women), there are myriad possible reasons for this phenomenon, but, for the most part, it all comes down to one general rule:
women are lemmings (ie: “sheep”, “followers”, “the borg”, “republicans”)
“how so, exceedingly omnipotent and virile champ?“, you ask…well
…its all about the wagon. the bandwagon
bandwagon attraction is a general thought process that many women possess, a way of thinking that allows peer-pressure to influence how attractive they might find someone. they practice this everywhere, from the nightclub dynamic where one expertly timed “i think he’s funny looking” can influence an entire flock of chicks into thinking that an relatively unfunny looking guy is, in fact, funny looking, to the entire mystic surrounding the wedding ring:
“well…there must be something great about him since someone actually wanted to marry him. i wonder if he wants some head?”
in equation form:
x (a man’s base score)
+
y(1/10) (the number of women who’ve professed attraction to him with her earshot)
equals
z (his adjusted score)
for instance, if a woman thinks a guy might be a 5 (x), but she hears 20 different women say that he’s attractive (y)*(1/10), his score raises to a 7 (z)
***for a negative remark, the equation stays the same, sans the “1/10th” changing to a “negative 1/10th”***
in no other avenue is this phenomenon more prevalent than when thinking about pop cultural figures. from michael jordan (who, more than any other public figure, made it socially acceptable again to admit attraction to dark-skinned black males) to the mystery surrounding the confusing infatuation black women had with mos def from 2001 to 2004, theres a long and varied history of men becoming “attractive” basically overnight just because a few fickle women deemed them such and their opinions began to pick up steam like, ummm, a thing that picks up lots of steam very quickly.
the patron saint...for now
currently, the 2008 patron saint of bandwagon attraction seems to be hill harper, a man who in less than 30 months has gone from “what kind of f*cking name is hill??” to the de facto ideal mentioned when black women profess an affinity for nerdy n*ggas. in fact, if you google “i need me a hill harper type of n*gga“, over two billion results pop up, with over 500 million of them coming directly from lizburr.com (***editors note: the champ is lying***)
what does this all mean? why are women so easily influenced when it comes to what they find attractive? why did mos def shack up with an nba groupie? who knows. all i know is that i need to start rocking a wedding ring.
on second thought, maybe not. wagons give me motion sickness. i think i’ll pass
–the champ
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That certainly jibes with personal experience. Once one woman expresses interest, suddenly every female in the area code feels the need to get with me. It’s a lot like consulting, where you either have zero clients or 40 at a time: yeah, you’re popular but you’re also not getting any sleep.
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Leila {August 5th, 2008 at 12:44 am}
I’ve heard from my guy friends that a lot of women are like this, but I’ve always been the opposite. If I know that a guy is in relationship, I will not pursue him. He’s taken and I move on to an available guy. A lot of my girls are like this too. It’s a waste of time to pursue a guy who’s taken.
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aja {August 5th, 2008 at 2:38 am}
Leila..im with you on that one. I dont care how cute a guy is..if hes taken..hes taken..which means..hes not interested in you..so why waste ur time??
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shay {August 5th, 2008 at 9:23 am}
just because a guy is taken does not mean he is not interested in you… i have met alot of guys who girlfriends all of a sudden “start acting up” or “don’t understand him” when i get in the picture….
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GOODENess {August 5th, 2008 at 1:31 pm}
AJA…doesn’t mean he’s not interested…just not available to pursue said “interest”..so semantics aside…married/committed men are still off limits…
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Monnie {August 5th, 2008 at 7:13 am}
I agree with you. Some women see it as a challenge. My thing is, why cause all the drama? If he does happen to cheat with you or leave her for you, what makes you think that he won’t do the same thing to you?
Not only that, I do believe in karma.
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 8:59 am}
“It’s a lot like consulting, where you either have zero clients or 40 at a time: yeah, you’re popular but you’re also not getting any sleep.”
yup, thats exactly what i was thinking…its just like, ummm, consulting
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Anechoic {August 5th, 2008 at 12:07 pm}
What can I say, be it women or work, I like what I do.
On the other hand, consulting makes me money and women cost me money…
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I have been diggin Hill since Love, Sex and Eating the Bones. A dude that can get me into porn THEN write a book to young brothers? PURE HOTNESS
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Alicia {August 5th, 2008 at 8:23 am}
That was a good movie. Peer pressure is a b*tch. Women, we know we may like a guy but if our friends think otherwise, we would never admit it. Its so stupid but that’s just how it goes. We don’t want to be the odd [wo]man out, so we say nothing and quietly dote from afar…or maybe that’s just me…
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 9:00 am}
“We don’t want to be the odd [wo]man out, so we say nothing and quietly dote from afar…or maybe that’s just me…”
obviously, its not just you
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shay {August 5th, 2008 at 9:24 am}
when that happens i just keep our mischievous escapades to myself. *shrug*
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MsSula {August 5th, 2008 at 10:31 am}
Well, it’s not me though…
I am seriously (delectably so) always the odd woman out. And I like that… Call me pretentious, but I know that my taste (in everything including men) is very different than the norm… And I dig it.
It’s 2008 and I still love me some Mos Def! Yes!
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JBoogie {August 5th, 2008 at 11:06 am}
I was always the chick that liked either (a) the “nerdy n*ggas” as champ so eloquently described them or (b) the quiet weird guy nobody else would bother to get to know. Hidden gems right there, y’all. Then my friends would be like, “I don’t know how she can stand him, but he treats her well, so that’s cool” while silently wishing they had somebody.
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 9:01 am}
“A dude that can get me into porn THEN write a book to young brothers? PURE HOTNESS”
how about a smart brotha who watches porn? is that pure hotness too?
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miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 9:32 am}
Yep.
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JBoogie {August 5th, 2008 at 11:07 am}
all day every day…
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Deviant {August 5th, 2008 at 9:29 am}
since what?
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miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 9:33 am}
Did he write another book? I thought it was a book of young sisters? ::confused::
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miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 10:06 am}
I just googled this and answered my own question…lol
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Shelia {August 5th, 2008 at 9:58 am}
lol Wise Diva. Nothing like an intelligent brotha with sex appeal.
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1) I think Black women ALWAYS liked dark-skinned men, no? At least as long as I can remember. I always hear sisters dogging out the yallers (not I!).
2) Hill Harper has been hot since forever! The books and the Obama friendship just sent him off the meter.
3) I don’t know about the band wagon thing, because men who are in relationships become invisible to me and I try to ignore them unless we were friends before. I don’t need them around blocking my line of sight from the single fellas. Unless I don’t find them attactive, and we can be BFFs.
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Leila {August 5th, 2008 at 12:41 am}
“I think Black women ALWAYS liked dark-skinned men”
Yes!!!
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miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 9:31 am}
I know I always have.
I’m not a color snob though.
I like ‘em all shades from Shabba Doo to Manute Bol.
I don’t care.
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Leila {August 5th, 2008 at 10:26 pm}
I agree!
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 9:05 am}
“1) I think Black women ALWAYS liked dark-skinned men, no? At least as long as I can remember. I always hear sisters dogging out the yallers (not I!). ”
there was a period of time (maybe from 1979 to around maybe 1987) where being a dark-skinned cat wasnt the business. the al b. sure’s and el debarge’s of the world were the standards, but mj’s popularity helped to change that.
actually, when you think about it, michael jordan might have done more to influence pop culture than any other american in the last 50 years.
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genius khan {August 5th, 2008 at 9:47 am}
now i Toldya:
1) “I think Black women ALWAYS liked dark-skinned men, no? At least as long as I can remember.”
hey luv, some of the readers can remember being attracted to, dating, sexing etc. men further back than 1984. some maybe even back before Al B. Sure was the flavor of the month. [some before the wheel] LOL!
i think since diff. shades of black folk have been on the planet women have been attracted to different shades of men. [dark men not withstanding] just to be clear, i believe part of what we are considering here is what shade has been groupthink popular. the heard mentality. we have all subscribed to, suffered and or experienced it. moooo for me one time.
how about YOUTH [men and women, girls and boys]are more easily influenced by this pop culture phonomena and more easily influenced in GENERAL.
how bout grown women are more easily influenced than men in a diverse # of ways. i believe women are more apt to get along with each other and to go along with each other and men are more liable to differ oppose and compete amongst one another. {why, why, why, khan? huh? i can hear women decry.} [later, ok] fuc* u khan! i know. maybe if you’re lucky.
heh, heh, heh (inhales) whoooooo!
so in the case of womens groupthink choosing the flavor of the month, (what shade of man is popular) the ball gets rolling pretty fast. we can debate who are the taste makers if you like but my point is womens groupthink especially where it concerns the skintone popularity issue is madd influential amongst women and is ferociously proliferate although many times fickle
remember if you are person that has a jones/affinity for a particular skintone [and many do] what is popular doesn’t usually change that.
holla thefuc*back…
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Panama Jackson {August 5th, 2008 at 9:49 am}
2) Hill Harper has been hot since forever!
as a personal reflection this may be true. strange, but true.
however, hill harper has definitely become the “dude that can read so i want to f*ck him” du jour despite no real clear achievement on his part for the ascension. he writes books…he went to an ivy league school…he’s been in bad movies…he’s short…
but somebody said he was hot one day and then voila…”girl, you know who’s boris hot?? hill harper!”
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Shelia {August 5th, 2008 at 10:03 am}
“girl, you know who’s boris hot?? hill harper!””
Not…Harper is hot…but not Boris hot. Boris is on his own richter scale…lol
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miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 10:06 am}
Boris is on his own richter scale…lol
I 2nd this.
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MsSula {August 5th, 2008 at 10:37 am}
See to me Boris is bland as bland can be. I need more character and personality…
Now, Idris on the other hand…
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miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 10:59 am}
Idris is fine too.
Monnie {August 5th, 2008 at 11:01 am}
*Kool-aid.*
JBoogie {August 5th, 2008 at 11:13 am}
Idris could get it repeatedly AND often…
miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 11:26 am}
3 times on Sunday, a 5 times on a Tuesday.
Shelia {August 5th, 2008 at 11:31 am}
lol…try every day.
miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 11:42 am}
That was in addition to everyday…lol
Shay-d-lady {August 5th, 2008 at 11:59 am}
yeah, I must agree that Idris is hot on screen and that accent does wonders, however I heard he was like 5′5 and that might pose an issue in real life.
The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 12:11 pm}
‘yeah, I must agree that Idris is hot on screen and that accent does wonders, however I heard he was like 5′5 and that might pose an issue in real life.’
i had to chime in cause this is funny as hell. dude is like 6′2, 6′3. where the hell did 5′5 come from, lol?
Intellectual Hedonist {August 5th, 2008 at 12:32 pm}
I concur with the Champ “dude is like 6′2, 6′3. ”
Seeing is believing and I DO BELIEVE!!!!
miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 1:11 pm}
Yeah I just watched Daddy’s Little Girls again on Sunday…no way dude is short. He’s at least 6 feet.
shay-d-lady {August 5th, 2008 at 4:08 pm}
Really? he is that tall? One of my so called friends claims to have met him in the ATL doing promo for that Tyler Perry joint, she is like 5,9 almost six feet in heels, she said he was way shorter than her. So either she lied or fell up on an imposter…LMAO
Miss Patterson {August 5th, 2008 at 2:54 pm}
Idris, now damn that’s a fine muthafugga. that just took me back to that scene when Stringer Bell was kissing Donette (Barksdale’s gf) on the Wire. Damn his lips are nice, and that dip in his back…yeah he can get it too, i might even let him spank me. i ain’t ashamed…mmmph!
The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 3:40 pm}
“Damn his lips are nice, and that dip in his back…yeah he can get it too, i might even let him spank me. i ain’t ashamed…mmmph!”
………..
utc115 {August 5th, 2008 at 5:53 pm}
I am 5′7 and he has to be taller than that. I walked right beside Tasha and Idris when they did the crashand riot scene for Daddys Little Girl. He could have took me right there on Edgewood.
Luvvie {August 5th, 2008 at 7:19 pm}
Idris Alba can get it many times, many places, many ways.
That is all.
aja {August 6th, 2008 at 4:03 am}
yes!! lawds he is the man!
Intellectual Hedonist {August 5th, 2008 at 11:30 am}
and Boris has nice hands. He smelled good and gives great hugs.
Yes HATE ME! I will wait.
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Miss Patterson {August 5th, 2008 at 4:12 pm}
hate you! I don’t really though…just jealous.
Luvvie {August 5th, 2008 at 7:20 pm}
***HATE HATE HATE***
Intellectual Hedonist {August 5th, 2008 at 8:31 pm}
he has soft lips too… How could I forget that!
Miss Patterson {August 5th, 2008 at 10:39 am}
oooh Boris. I saw him once in a club out here in la-la back in ‘03 and I think I drooled on myself. Nah…Hill ain’t Boris hot; you can stop that rumor right now P.
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Intellectual Hedonist {August 5th, 2008 at 11:31 am}
I agree with that to the nth degree.
“Hill ain’t Boris hot; you can stop that rumor right now P.”
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Muse {August 5th, 2008 at 8:14 pm}
Um Panama, the qualities of Hill Harper that you listed (i.e. Ivy League graduate, author, intellect, etc) is very appealing to women who look beyond just the physical. Is it bad for women to be attracted to Hill Harper?
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Shelia {August 5th, 2008 at 10:01 am}
Sister Toldja, I don’t discriminate–dark or yellow (or as we sometimes call them red). I’ve always liked them in all flavors. When it came to relationships though it seems I ended up more with the yellow ones with the green eyes or hazel eyes for whatever reason.
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MsSula {August 5th, 2008 at 10:33 am}
“3) I don’t know about the band wagon thing, because men who are in relationships become invisible to me and I try to ignore them unless we were friends before. I don’t need them around blocking my line of sight from the single fellas. Unless I don’t find them attactive, and we can be BFFs
And, that my friends,is the mamafuck!ng word.
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JBoogie {August 5th, 2008 at 11:12 am}
My tastes have run from white boys (as a pre-teen) to Al B. look-alikes to dark-skinned cuties. My first BF was a dark brotha *flashback* and ever since, my preference tends to be super smart, dark-skinned, bald dudes. Hill Harper is absolutely adorable, though, and I’d holla. I too do not even look at dudes in relationships…waste of time. I’m selfish, and I’m not sharing him like that…especially when there are so many yummy single men still out there!
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 11:42 am}
“Hill Harper is absolutely adorable, though, and I’d holla.”
three words that should never be uttered to describe a grown (straight) man:
adorable
dainty
precious
i could continue, but i need to finish my waffle
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JBoogie {August 5th, 2008 at 11:46 am}
Point taken…I tend to use words like adorable to describe, um, the metrosexuals lol…
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miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 11:49 am}
not dainty!!! dayum dawg!!!
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Luvvie {August 5th, 2008 at 7:22 pm}
LMAO Champ. If I want to pinch a man’s cheeks (and not the ones he sits on), then he can be nothing but my friend. Or if I want to pat him on his head (and not the one down south)…
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Raspberry {August 6th, 2008 at 4:16 am}
Hahaha , that is so true. After seeing that Eating the Bones movie, Hill Harper was actually less attractive to me. I’m realizing I don’t like men who come off as too boyish.. I like grown behind 5′0clock shadow type men who are over adolescent type angst. I’m also not sure how I feel about men picking out pretty scarves – I can’t wait until that trend dies.
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“the 2008 patron saint of bandwagon attraction seems to be hill harper, a man who in less than 30 months has gone from “what kind of f*cking name is hill??” to the de facto ideal mentioned when black women profess an affinity for nerdy n*ggas.”
Where have I been? I didn’t hear that women were flocking to Hill Harper. Jay-Z has a bandwagon effect too…..This post is so on point though! I experience this with my boyfriend. He’s a good-looking guy but he told me that didn’t get the same attention when he was single as he does now that he’s in a relationship. When I go out with him, some women have been really disrespectful but he sets them straight and makes it known that he’s with me.
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Mimi {August 5th, 2008 at 1:44 am}
“He’s a good-looking guy but he told me that didn’t get the same attention when he was single as he does now that he’s in a relationship.”
I can’t for the life of me understand why chicks do this. Like Sista Toldja, a guy becomes invisible to me once he becomes attached to another female. To pursue a taken man is just plain THIRSTY and pathetic. Why wouldn’t you want your boo to yourself?! Writing this is making me angry, lol….women are so so conniving SMH
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 9:08 am}
“I can’t for the life of me understand why chicks do this. Like Sista Toldja, a guy becomes invisible to me once he becomes attached to another female. To pursue a taken man is just plain THIRSTY and pathetic”
i think women just enjoy riding things, whether its roller coasters, bandwagons, or wangs
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Panama Jackson {August 5th, 2008 at 9:50 am}
i’m gonna have to second that motion.
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Alicia {August 5th, 2008 at 11:00 am}
“i think women just enjoy riding things, whether its roller coasters, bandwagons, or wangs”
Wow, now I really know why you are a very smart brotha…so insightful. Well put.
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 11:45 am}
““i think women just enjoy riding things, whether its roller coasters, bandwagons, or wangs”
Wow, now I really know why you are a very smart brotha…so insightful. Well put.”
thank you. and since panama’s already established that women just like hearing voices, all women should enjoy riding public buses and/or subways, both of which allow you to ride something big and hear random voices.
Alicia {August 5th, 2008 at 1:14 pm}
and just when I thought you were going to delve deeper into to the female psyche…you came up with this?! Very smart but still a brotha…
The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 3:43 pm}
“Very smart but still a brotha…”
this would be a great t-shirt, but under our seperate line of “subtlely racist backhanded compliment” gear
Alicia {August 5th, 2008 at 4:49 pm}
excuse my play on words…how about this–”Very smart even for a MAN” better?!
The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 5:56 pm}
“excuse my play on words…how about this–”Very smart even for a MAN” better?!”
better, lol
Luvvie {August 5th, 2008 at 7:22 pm}
Champ, I hate that I have no comeback for this. I hate ur wit (a.k.a. I love it)
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aja {August 5th, 2008 at 2:39 am}
to me..Jay-Z looks like that camel dood from those cigarette ads. Why would i be attracted to that? I dont even see what B sees in him..other than the money/power/respect..aspect..lol
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miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 9:29 am}
Jay-Z looks like that camel dood from those cigarette ads
Yep Cam’Ron said so. lmao
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JBoogie {August 5th, 2008 at 11:16 am}
I got into an discussion one day with a chick when I said Jigga was NOT hot…didn’t care how much fuggin’ money he had. I was deemed CRAZY and chica said “it’s easy to say what one WON’T do especially when he probably WOULDN’T” or some such. I was all, whatever, to each his own. I know that dude could have Bill Gates money and I still wouldn’t want him…
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miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 11:24 am}
Some chicks just want money. They will convince themselves a dude is hot just because he has money.
He’s still just as ugly. He just an ugly dude with money.
This category includes: Jay-Z, Lil’ Wayne, Kanye, Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, Travis McCoy, Benecio Del Toro…I could go on all day…
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MsSula {August 5th, 2008 at 11:31 am}
Kanye and Benicio are not ugly!
Nooooo!
miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 11:41 am}
They aren’t cute either…lol (love ya MsSula!!)
JBoogie {August 5th, 2008 at 11:44 am}
Pretty damn much…money can’t change ugly…
WuDaMan {August 5th, 2008 at 2:07 pm}
I think w/ ugly you have to change your circle. And do a cuteness gradient.
shay-d-lady {August 5th, 2008 at 4:14 pm}
I am sorry, Jay Z has BDS that is big-d_ _ _ Swagger.A lot of these dudes (excluding Hill) that you are attributing to bandwagonitis is actually, BDS
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Luvvie {August 5th, 2008 at 7:24 pm}
“to me..Jay-Z looks like that camel dood from those cigarette ads. Why would i be attracted to that? ”
I am SO with you Aja. That slack-jawed, big-lipped thang he got going on is not HOT to me. Any and all attractiveness Jay has is in his swagger.
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GOODENess {August 5th, 2008 at 2:17 pm}
Jay-Z has a bandwagon effect too…..
yeah I can see that…I’ve always thought JayZ was attractive…not handsome, but attractive…swag aside…I am an oral lover…a nice mouth does it for me…not to mention his hustle…intel…style and confidence…Jay has always been on the future ex-husband hall of fame!
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I have evidence that my behind has always loved the smart geeky guys because I’m a geek myself. Hehe.
Hill Harper lives near my mom. He’s always at the Pink Berry in Studio City. He’s so hot ::SIGHS::
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Monnie {August 5th, 2008 at 7:19 am}
Thanks! Now I know where to go and get a peek in person…
No stalkerassness.
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Treezy F. Baby {August 5th, 2008 at 1:37 pm}
LOL NO Stalkerassness is definitely a marketable t-shirt!
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 3:45 pm}
“LOL NO Stalkerassness is definitely a marketable t-shirt!”
it is, actually. good one
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Monnie {August 5th, 2008 at 4:32 pm}
Thanks! *does the “I got my first t-shirt” dance*
The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 5:57 pm}
“Thanks! *does the “I got my first t-shirt” dance*”
you do realize, though, that this dance has to be performed nude or it doesnt count, right?
Intellectual Hedonist {August 5th, 2008 at 8:35 pm}
““Thanks! *does the “I got my first t-shirt” dance*”
you do realize, though, that this dance has to be performed nude or it doesnt count, right?”
and if you are a man in the presence of the VSB women….
y’all owe us some dancing
I am going to have to co-sign on this one. I dated a conventionally attractive guy prior to my husband. When I met my husband who is a regular looking guy (per public opinion); I can’t tell you how much negative feedback I received from friends and associates. And if I am being completely honest with myself, that did kind of feed into the lack of play he got at the beginning. When I shook that off and moved forward, lets just say women came out of the woodwork, even a few of the associates that formerly thought he wasn’t all that. That being said there is something to say for the confidence that a man develops knowing he has a woman at home and swagger will definitely give you bonus points. Now on the other side of that coin, guys have the same mentality. While men will still date a chick that other men don’t find attractive, they love the flavor of the month as well and let’s not forget the big ass pass ninjas pass out on the regular, Buffie the Body, Deelishus? Cmon now……
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 9:11 am}
“Now on the other side of that coin, guys have the same mentality. While men will still date a chick that other men don’t find attractive, they love the flavor of the month as well and let’s not forget the big ass pass ninjas pass out on the regular, Buffie the Body, Deelishus? Cmon now……”
eh…i disagree. ive never met a guy who needed to be convinced that someone was (or wasnt) attractive.
never.
sure, we like when our boys think some chick we’ve bagged is hot, but it really doesnt affect our behavior at all
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sisanda {August 5th, 2008 at 10:50 am}
I second the Champ and Panama on this one…never…infact some of ma boys always give the WTF look when i see a bowlegged-athletically-built woman, and say “That’s too nice, i would further bend that…”
The reason being – i don’t give a f**k what ma boys girl looks like, as long as she’s puttin out, and he wont be paying me any random visits at 11 o’clock pm wanting to “hang out”/”chill out”/”let the Nuts airdry” whilst watching some anime
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Shay-d-lady {August 5th, 2008 at 11:20 am}
I will agree that men willl date a women that there friends dont approve of more readily than women will do the reverse, however Men will pursue a chick based on her locker room appeal. Hence the pass around chick with good head, the chick with the big ass, the track/basketball chick etc, etc
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 11:48 am}
“Men will pursue a chick based on her locker room appeal. Hence the pass around chick with good head, the chick with the big ass, the track/basketball chick etc, etc”
this has nothing to do with “locker room appeal” and everything to do “butt naked in my bedroom appeal”
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miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 9:30 am}
let’s not forget the big ass pass ninjas pass out on the regular, Buffie the Body, Deelishus? Cmon now……
This is truth.
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Panama Jackson {August 5th, 2008 at 9:54 am}
eh, it’s more fiction.
as the champ said, how many men do you know can be convinced a swampdonkey is hot? and nobody said buffie looks good, she just has beaucoup ass.
tip.drill.
besides, as black men, ass is effectively calling card. you see it in action every day…nearly every black men looks back at the sight of most women to see what she’s working with. i’m sure this was part of the human genome project, phase II: black men and ass.
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miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 10:09 am}
and nobody said buffie looks good, she just has beaucoup ass.
Just beacause you didn’t say she looks good, doesn’t mean I haven’t heard this…lol
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AkShone {August 5th, 2008 at 10:29 am}
I actually think she has a sexy face…not beautiful, but sexy…ass too?!?! Twofer!!!
Luvvie {August 5th, 2008 at 7:26 pm}
At the chance of sounding like a hater, Buffie the Body is what folks like to call a “ButtaFace”. Errthang looks good BUT her face. The chick aint cute.
Jolie Fatale {August 5th, 2008 at 11:24 am}
I think this is actually an east coast thing. I never heard so much about booty til I got here. Its all about face and boobies (natural or fake) on the west coast. Sigh .. maybe I should move back..
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miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 11:29 am}
You’ve never been down South I take it.
Here–it’s all about the hips & azz.
I’m not complainin’…lol
Jolie Fatale {August 5th, 2008 at 11:59 am}
oh i’ve been down south … I dont know how y’all carry all that donkey around! But yeah its definitely not a west coast thing. We can even grow um … so sad
miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 1:52 pm}
Chin up.
It’s a required skill and it’s in the water.
The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 11:51 am}
“I think this is actually an east coast thing. I never heard so much about booty til I got here. Its all about face and boobies (natural or fake) on the west coast. Sigh .. maybe I should move back..”
seriously. what the hell is going on out west?????
this like the 5705478507 time in the past couple months ive heard some black woman make some variant of that remark
Jolie Fatale {August 5th, 2008 at 12:00 pm}
Most of the women just dont have booty so I guess it just hasnt been most mens focus growing up until they venture on out this way or down south.
Kit (Keep It Trill) {August 5th, 2008 at 1:20 pm}
Panama:“i’m sure this was part of the human genome project, phase II: black men and ass.”
Laughed out loud at this.
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Luvvie {August 5th, 2008 at 7:28 pm}
And do men ever think someone can have TOO much ass???
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It works both ways…
I went to a club in LA…and when I was in there…for some reason I was the shit (well, I am…but this particular night I looked a hot mess…which I guess does not in fact take away from me being the shit…lol)
Men were crowding me…and pursuing me…I have to admit, I’d never had quite that experience before. So…clubs over and we are all heading to our cars and I had 4 different guys waiting to talk to me…I laughed them off and figured the moon was full or either I’d gotten sexier between looking in my mirror before leaving the house and reaching the club…
Finally got to the car with my girlfriends and this guy comes swaggering over and won’t let the conversation die…
I finally ask hwy he was being so persistent… he said…he saw everyone else trying to get at me…he figured I was worth having and felt he needed to actually seal the deal and get me to go on a date with him.
So you see, men do it too!!!
I am not fraternizing with a man that is married. I have enough of my own shit to account for on judgement day, muchless the answering of why I broke up a union that was promised before God.
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 9:13 am}
“So you see, men do it too!!!”
the situation you described was an anomaly, lol.
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shay {August 5th, 2008 at 9:27 am}
“I am not fraternizing with a man that is married. I have enough of my own shit to account for on judgement day, muchless the answering of why I broke up a union that was promised before God.”
9 times out of 10 that union was broken wayyy before you came along
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Dom {August 5th, 2008 at 10:00 am}
^^^ Thats no escuse for being triflin’!
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shay {August 5th, 2008 at 11:36 am}
not sayin its an excuse, im just sayin its not usually the mistresses fault the man is cheating, the mofo is fawked up all by himself.
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Deviant {August 5th, 2008 at 9:57 am}
You may be unaware of some information. I know that women are real hard on themselves and will think that they are ” a hot mess” when that is far from the case because more often than not what is important to you appearancewise we could give 2 shits about. Do you have a big ass? Is your chest larger than normal?
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 10:18 am}
“Do you have a big ass? Is your chest larger than normal?”
you’ve been making me laugh for the last couple of days. good job and shit
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Deviant {August 5th, 2008 at 10:32 am}
Just beign who i am. I just think those are the reasons for the attention and not the bandwagon thing.
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GOODENess {August 5th, 2008 at 2:22 pm}
I am not fraternizing with a man that is married. I have enough of my own shit to account for on judgement day, muchless the answering of why I broke up a union that was promised before God.
AMEN! I am already pretty much for certain going to hell…butlet me go on my own merits…not on some okee okde adultery bullsh*t… be good or be good at it!
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*First, stop hating, Hill Harper is a cutie pie.
*Second, this “Bandwagon attraction” that you speak of is really just our way of getting confirmation that we’re not wearing any variation of ‘the goggles’. That being said i’ve avoided many a bandwagon like K-Ci, Usher and Method Man, when he wore that weird eye thingy; (However, Method Man without the weird eye thingy can get it though…and twice on Sunday…and in the shower…and on the kitchen floor with the frig door open)
*Third, married men don’t turn me on, but married people in general that are content, realistic about their expectations of marriage and are reciprocal in their lovey-doveyness towards one another, make me all warm & fuzzy inside; this is also the reason why i love reading comments by Raqi and D*stroy. Gives me hope or something. i dunno.
*And lastly…y’all invented Bandwagon-ness. i.e.) every video (ho) model that’s gets mentioned on this site usually gets an “Amen!” from every male commenter on here. i guess all it takes is a big butt and a smile… i still luv y’all though.
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 9:15 am}
“*And lastly…y’all invented Bandwagon-ness. i.e.) every video (ho) model that’s gets mentioned on this site usually gets an “Amen!”
thing is, these are women we all thought were hot already, and we didnt need any extra
convincing of that fact.
so you’re wrong and shit
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shay {August 5th, 2008 at 9:29 am}
lol yeah, what some women seem to forget is that video girls arent necessarily ugly just because they (can) make money off their ASSets… they would all be head turners in the hood, so what changes when they get in a rap video?
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Deviant {August 5th, 2008 at 10:00 am}
its not bandwagon…if someone is cute we dont agree cause we are lemmings we agree cause she could get it. bangability is universal. thats not groupthink thats just nature. Its like breathing. I dont do it cause the next guy does. I do it cause I like air too.
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AkShone {August 5th, 2008 at 10:33 am}
^^^^…this is real truth.
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GOODENess {August 5th, 2008 at 2:23 pm}
DEVIANT…I friggin e-love you man! lol
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JBoogie {August 5th, 2008 at 11:23 am}
(However, Method Man without the weird eye thingy can get it though…and twice on Sunday…and in the shower…and on the kitchen floor with the frig door open)
PREACH!
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That being said i’ve avoided many a bandwagon like K-Ci, Usher and Method Man, when he wore that weird eye thingy; (However, Method Man without the weird eye thingy can get it though…and twice on Sunday…and in the shower…and on the kitchen floor with the frig door open)
hi 5@ Miss Pat with the frig door open ’cause yall needed something to drink.
I don’t really agree about the Hill Harper thing, he seems so something ……fragile, soft sweet, like he would use my shower gel; just my opinion.
I always thought that Mos Def was sexy, who said he wasn’t? It’s sad that he married the groupie; so sad.
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Shay-d-lady {August 5th, 2008 at 3:18 am}
I hate to do it for fear that it further validates this article but I am going to co sign on both the method man comment (yes, he could get it) and the fact that I swear Hill Harper probably uses that honeysuckle scented bath and bodyworks shower gel and lotion.
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Nut {August 5th, 2008 at 3:50 am}
I know Shay-d-lady he just looks like he smells like flowers or some shit. I don’t know why he looks so fragile; metro sexual.
And about validating this article it doesn’t matter what is said he’ll just twist words to fit his meaning anyway. Lol, that’s what they do, you know those very smart brothas.
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 9:16 am}
“And about validating this article it doesn’t matter what is said he’ll just twist words to fit his meaning anyway. Lol, that’s what they do, you know those very smart brothas. ”
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JBoogie {August 5th, 2008 at 11:25 am}
I know a guy who uses body shower gel (not the lotion though)…needless to say, he’s also super smart, loves sports of all kinds and single…if he didn’t live on the other side of the country, I’d have married him years ago…
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Monnie {August 5th, 2008 at 4:38 pm}
I just want to know, who jumped on the K-Ci band wagon? *retches*
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Luvvie {August 5th, 2008 at 7:31 pm}
“I don’t really agree about the Hill Harper thing, he seems so something ……fragile, soft sweet, like he would use my shower gel; just my opinion.”
Ok THAT made me cackle!! LMAO!! I pictured someone getting mad and saying “Hill! U aint SHIT!! What I tell you bout using my Japanese Cherry Blossoms joint??”
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Weeeeeird….like a few hours ago, I just happened to pick up Hill Harper’s new book to Young Sisters and flipped through and I was like hmmm now that’s the kinda guy I want. Why hasn’t any of these Hollywood chicks scooped him up? No bandwagon effect at all, I remember him only as the lil’ pip squeak b-ball player in He Got Game…but that book made a huge impression on me in a matter of a few page turns. Wow. And that’s soo creepy. Maybe the bandwagon effect is telepathic.
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 9:19 am}
“Maybe the bandwagon effect is telepathic.”
more proof that women are the borg.
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GOODENess {August 5th, 2008 at 2:26 pm}
ha!
resistance is futile!
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let me be the first guy to post and juss say…
As someone has previously already stated, when we in a relationship we have a sense of security, and subsequently our dose of swagger doubles subconsciously. All our six senses heighten, and we feel like every woman is wetting their panties (ahh the 4-play dialect!!) over us.
As for the women bandwagon ish…that’s so true it’s not even funny. The only downside to that, is if the woman you want isn’t strongwilled, then you have to buy all her friends drinks and sh*t, smile and greet all her friends and sh*t, try to get some sorta aproval from her friends and sh*t…
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ladebelle {August 5th, 2008 at 8:02 am}
yeah… cuz swag surely can’t buy drinks on it’s own!
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 9:22 am}
“As someone has previously already stated, when we in a relationship we have a sense of security, and subsequently our dose of swagger doubles subconsciously”
this is true…i cant deny this
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I’m gunna have to consign this post. until one of my friends dated a really cool white guy .. none of my friends were remotely interested in finding one. but as soon as she was overly happy everyone was looking for the same thing.. “a nice white guy” … Crazy.. but us women are crazy in general.
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ladebelle {August 5th, 2008 at 8:01 am}
hmmm… i’m not crazy… (i have people to testify to this!!)
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 9:21 am}
“Crazy.. but us women are crazy in general.”
***slowly nodding head in agreement***
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miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 9:26 am}
So your friends all went out and got white dudes after that? Wild.
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Jolie Fatale {August 5th, 2008 at 11:26 am}
no they just actually looked at a dwight differently like there may be some potential. I’ll stick with a dwayne anyday. no dwights for me!
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 11:53 am}
“no they just actually looked at a dwight differently like there may be some potential. I’ll stick with a dwayne anyday. no dwights for me!”
other than the character from “the office”, ive never heard of a white man named “dwight”. from now on, you should use “brad” or “bert” in that analogy
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Jolie Fatale {August 5th, 2008 at 12:02 pm}
My friends call ‘white girls and guys” dwights and dwightinas kinda like “da white” ..get it.. not saying its brilliant but its a lot easier code..
The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 12:06 pm}
“My friends call ‘white girls and guys” dwights and dwightinas kinda like “da white” ..get it.. not saying its brilliant but its a lot easier code..”
“aha. i see”, said the blind man
Intellectual Hedonist {August 5th, 2008 at 12:10 pm}
my friends use Brad and Brittney
JBoogie {August 5th, 2008 at 1:10 pm}
me and my peeps use brad and becky…beck(s) for short…
GOODENess {August 5th, 2008 at 2:28 pm}
TLEE you aint’ know…white boys are the new iPhone
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miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 2:38 pm}
I don’t do the pink meat, sis.
Bandwagon or not.
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GOODENess {August 5th, 2008 at 2:51 pm}
I agree…the other white meat…lol…I am not against a pinky toe…just not going looking for one either…I love me some melanin!
miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 3:41 pm}
Melanin is the Best!!!
First of all, I liked Hill Harper every since “Hav Plenty” and his raggedy-ass hair he use to have (I was so happy that he cut it off).
The thing is, women can be as shallow as men. But if one woman spots an attractive quality in a man (that was over looked by the general population of woman ) that quality is magnified once pointed out. Sometimes we let our “list” get in the way and never take the time out to recognize the treasure in front of us.
Then you have skeezers that just want what you have… all the time. No matter what it is.
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Monnie {August 5th, 2008 at 7:17 am}
Another thing, This is why you should never talk about your relationship in depth with your friends/family. I have known people that were betrayed by “loved” ones.
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ladebelle {August 5th, 2008 at 8:00 am}
ahhh… such good points… esp about the skeezers… always schemin…
dang, loved ones too?!?!?!?
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miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 9:25 am}
Yep. You never go into too many details with any girls (friends or family). They could be plotting on you for real.
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Monnie {August 5th, 2008 at 10:58 am}
Girl, Yes!
I have (step) cousins that were plotting to take someone’s man only to find out that it was our other (step) cousin’s man. Skeezers, skanks, skip-skops and scallywags have family too…
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JBoogie {August 5th, 2008 at 11:27 am}
“Skeezers, skanks, skip-skops and scallywags have family too…”
OKAY!!!
The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 11:54 am}
skip-skops?
Monnie {August 5th, 2008 at 7:17 pm}
from dave @ the player haters ball…
The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 9:32 am}
“But if one woman spots an attractive quality in a man (that was over looked by the general population of woman ) that quality is magnified once pointed out”
this is what makes the bandwagon phenomenon so interesting and amusing. a guy can literally go up (or down) 2 or 3 points without even doing anything other than just being.
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Shelia {August 5th, 2008 at 9:55 am}
“Then you have skeezers that just want what you have… all the time. No matter what it is.”
Monnie ain’t that the truth. You could be dating a dunkie butt faced man and a skeezer will try to push up on your man so quick your hand would spin.
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GOODENess {August 5th, 2008 at 2:31 pm}
SO TRUE!! I never turn my back on a broad…regardless…when I get my keys…every “bill fold” in this mugg better grab her sh*t too…that includes mama and gran gran!
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champ, i’m with you… i get motion sickness from wagons so i always passed on the men with wedding rings…. however, the men with wedding rings did have a tendency to take them off to jump on my “bandwagon” ***wink wink***. of course back in my younger days, i didn’t think to look for tan lines or crazy women stalking them but hey, we grow up for a reason right?
now what about swag? cuz like, i don’t think jay-z is cute at all but he’s sexy cuz he’s got that swag… you know, the confident but not overly arrogant (like diddy) swag? (my mom has worked wit jay on a couple of projects and can attest to his respectful attitude and such) i think swag has a lot to do with whether we women think that a dude is hot or not… i mean, hill did porn so OF COURSE he got some swag now!!!
i also agree with shay-d-lady… i think that once you grow up some, the co-signing thing and bandwagon shenanigans become null and void… esp since all women KNOW that a man is not perfect… if his ass is deemed a perfect 7 and above, he’s lackin somewhere else…
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miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 9:21 am}
“hill did porn”
Really? Male or female? lol
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 9:35 am}
“hill did porn”
Really? Male or female? lol’
one of his flicks, “love, sex, and eating the bones” was about a dude addicted to pornography.
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miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 9:49 am}
Wait…this is a movie you actually saw??
::kidding::
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ladebelle {August 5th, 2008 at 9:40 am}
girl… get with it!!! that’s y his swag is so fierce!!! granted his hair in the movie is a HOT mess…
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0342316/
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miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 9:48 am}
I’m sorry I’m not on Hill’s swag…lol
Thanks for the link.
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ladebelle {August 5th, 2008 at 10:05 am}
lol…it’s ok… his ears and nose make it a little difficult to get it…
Panama Jackson {August 5th, 2008 at 9:59 am}
hill’s hair is always a hot mess.
hmm.
the fact that i can say “hill’s hair” and be talking about a man is why the hill harper attraction is so strange to me.
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ladebelle {August 5th, 2008 at 10:06 am}
it’s swag!!! well, normally but i’m reconsidering this situation…
wasn’t he on like CSI too?
The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 9:34 am}
‘if his ass is deemed a perfect 7 and above, he’s lackin somewhere else…’
a perfect 7?
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ladebelle {August 5th, 2008 at 9:37 am}
yes, a perfect 7 is when he’s a 7 without your mathematical equation…
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AkShone {August 5th, 2008 at 10:10 am}
“if his ass is deemed a perfect 7 and above, he’s lackin somewhere else…”
I’ve never gotten this mode of thinking from some women. If a guy seems to be an all around great guy (i.e. looks, intelligence, character, ambition & passion) some women just assume something has to be wrong with him. Guys? I don’t think too many of us do this…if we meet a woman like that, sh!t we think it must be our lucky day. H3ll, even if we have some apprehension about her, we at least would see what’s up with her for validation purposes.
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No More Heroes {August 5th, 2008 at 10:42 am}
“H3ll, even if we have some apprehension about her, we at least would see what’s up with her for validation purposes.”
Pretty much.
GOODENess {August 5th, 2008 at 2:34 pm}
AkShone…he should automatically lose 3 points on GP for looking so soft and sweet that he probably uses one of those puffed up washy thingys when applting his aforementioned honeysuckle shower gel!
The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 6:00 pm}
“AkShone…he should automatically lose 3 points on GP for looking so soft and sweet that he probably uses one of those puffed up washy thingys when applting his aforementioned honeysuckle shower gel!”
so shower gel’s a no-no?
Luvvie {August 5th, 2008 at 7:35 pm}
U gotta get a shower gel that is manly (an oxymoron of sorts, but possible).
You cant be down for my Japanese Cherry Blossom Shower Gel. We’d beef in the mornings.
Intellectual Hedonist {August 5th, 2008 at 10:37 am}
“wedding rings did have a tendency to take them off to jump on my “bandwagon” ***wink wink***”
ditto: can someone please explain this to me, do I look like I FUSS with married men (or men in exclusive relationships), I don’t! so why they always end up trying to push up on me.
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Luvvie {August 5th, 2008 at 7:36 pm}
Mayb cuz u so fabulous, they cant help themselves. Mmhmmm.
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Hmmm, I don’t know about all this. I mean, it sounds great in theory…and the MACKulous (yes, you can use that) equation is fantastic, but I think that it has limitations. For instance, certain factors limit your ability to fit this equation. I will use myself as an example. Being a big brotha (read fat), my initial rating was PROBABLY somewhere on the “Him? Thas my boy” range. Meaning, I am relegated to buddy/brother/homie/cute status right out the gate. Time was my biggest MACKfactor. I’d wear you down (thanks Urkel). Add in the wedding ring…now I have NO time and thus, the initial “Him? Thas my boy” rating is not a quantitative value and cannot be factored into the equation. In fact, it is more negative. My thirst has gone up exponentially because MORE women seem to be comfortable with me because I have a ring. They all want to be my buddy. Oh wait, my glass half empty ass….NOW I see….I CAN FEEL IT….I CAN FEEL THE POWER.
As you were gentlemen.
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miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 9:20 am}
You made me laugh.
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 9:38 am}
“Time was my biggest MACKfactor. I’d wear you down (thanks Urkel).”
i had another equation that factored “time” in there as well, but someone from NASA actually emailed me last night and basically “convinced” me not to reveal it
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THIC FLAIR {August 5th, 2008 at 9:43 am}
THE INNANETS WOULD GO NUTS. Never tell. NEVER.
REDRUM
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Luvvie {August 5th, 2008 at 7:37 pm}
U’d eff up the time-space continuum. Be careful, Champ-san!
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Monnie {August 5th, 2008 at 10:36 am}
“I’d wear you down (thanks Urkel). ”
every post you have me laughing at something… Is that also part of your MACKfactor?
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GOODENess {August 5th, 2008 at 2:35 pm}
so you are the Lord of The Ring…yes?
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I agree with your assertion as to why attached men have bandwagon attraction. But I also think it is not only because women tend to see an attached guy as being wanted but men in fairly good relationships seem to be happier. They tend to possess a certain air of confidence. And then some actually begin to dress better.
Men also appear more attractive when a beautiful woman is hanging on his arm. However, that did not help Jermaine Dupri any but for some men it does seem to draw the attention of other women.
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THIC FLAIR {August 5th, 2008 at 8:31 am}
What woman has the nerve to try and be attracted to Janet Jackson’s man? LMAO. That’s a lose lose situation.
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 9:42 am}
“What woman has the nerve to try and be attracted to Janet Jackson’s man? LMAO. That’s a lose lose situation.”
lol. true dat
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Panama Jackson {August 5th, 2008 at 10:01 am}
you know what’s interesting about Jermaine Dupri…bagging janet jackson might not have won him points with women but for dudes, it turned us all into haters, which makes him the biggest winner of all.
now every convo about JD ends with, “but he did pull janet jackson.”
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THIC FLAIR {August 5th, 2008 at 10:26 am}
amen !
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Luvvie {August 5th, 2008 at 7:38 pm}
Jermaine Dupri getting Janet is the 8th wonder of the world. Talk bout the ULTIMATE case of women dating DOWN and men dating UP. Champ, that should be a post of urs.
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Yeah, I think dark-skinned dudes have always been in. And for the record, I liked Mos early…when he was on that Cosby detective show. It was his voice more than anything. I’m not the bandwagon girl. Once a guy becomes popular, he loses some of that appeal. And my crush on Mos faded when I saw him smoking a Newport…and dealing with the video chick solidified it all. I want to have a crush on Hill Harper because he’s “super smart,” but I’m just not getting the hetero vibe from him.
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miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 9:19 am}
I’m just not getting the hetero vibe from him.
I’m glad you said it. lol
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As much I abosolutely HATE TO ADMIT THIS. Generally women like what other women like. I hate writing it, just as much as I hate to admit it, particularly when I think my mama raised me to be my own woman.
re Hill Harper he is cute…but he just seemed TOOO “Renaissancian”, almost like fools gold. And I do like my men a little off beat, but the scarf he is sashaying is giving me too much, I know this is WAY shallow, but I want to be the only one sashaying any type of pashmina or scarf in my situation, relationship or dating scenairo.
and he does look like he’s about to be royaly decreed: Duke, Earl or Count. I do think having a scarf is a requirement for such honors.
but No thanks.
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miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 9:17 am}
“but I want to be the only one sashaying any type of pashmina”
Word.
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The Comeback Girl {August 5th, 2008 at 9:50 am}
same thing for a flat iron, curling iron or any other styling or facial products.
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miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 10:01 am}
Yes ma’am. I blame Queer Eye for the Straight Guy for that.
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The Comeback Girl {August 5th, 2008 at 10:03 am}
I loved that show…Project Runway too. And the style channel…men just to know when “staying in their lane” is not just suggested but a relationship requirement.
miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 10:14 am}
Yes. I agree. Stay in your lane.
Panama Jackson {August 5th, 2008 at 10:04 am}
hmm…i have had a question for eons…men that exfoliate? what does that say about them?
almost every girlfriend i’ve had has been like, “all men should exfoliate”
i’m not even quite sure what that shit means, but the fact that so many women say it make me think that if i were to do it, i’d have to start wearing skinny jeans and keds.
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The Comeback Girl {August 5th, 2008 at 10:10 am}
I appreciate a man with a BASIC skin care regimine.
Particularly some after shaving products FOR MEN. Kiel’s works great…
but that don’t mean his azz is all on my side of the vanity sink …and using my La Mer.
miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 10:13 am}
almost every girlfriend i’ve had has been like, “all men should exfoliate”
Really?
I prefer my men not be that involved with their skincare. All you need is some irish spring soap, some head and shoulders shampoo, and some noxzema for your face. That’s it.
Oh yeah, and some decent cologne. Keep it simple.
The Comeback Girl {August 5th, 2008 at 10:19 am}
Miss t-lee …You went TOO a la natural. What about a man that shaves, he DOES need to be using some type of after shave moisturizer FOR MEN.
I hate when women give men female products to use. He does not need to be in your ponds facial wipes but he does need to use ONE or TWO products TOPS for shaving care. I cant stand a whole bunch of razor bumps on a man.
miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 10:31 am}
Well shaving care is a bit different. I don’t know anything about that, so I leave those options up to him. lol
The Queen {August 5th, 2008 at 10:21 am}
Exfoliation doesn’t mean that you have to have a special skin care regimine. Plenty of men’s body washes have something like this in them…it can be done once a week.
I guess exfoliating is kinda like a man getting a pedicure. Once is a while is fine. If my man is getting it done more than me or on a regular schedule, that’s gonna bother me.
The Comeback Girl {August 5th, 2008 at 10:28 am}
well exfoliation should be done twice a week…and if a man is doing this twice a week…I got a problem..and if he;s doing it once a month (he’s violating skin care law)
its like a damned if you do …damned if you don’t proposition. Cause if he’s just “playing around doing it once a week” he might as well go big willy style and do it twice a week like you posed to do.”
The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 10:21 am}
“almost every girlfriend i’ve had has been like, “all men should exfoliate””
please, someone explain what the hell this means
The Comeback Girl {August 5th, 2008 at 10:24 am}
its removing the very top level of dead skin through some LIGHT abrasion.
The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 11:55 am}
“its removing the very top level of dead skin through some LIGHT abrasion.”
this sounds painful. i dont want anyone removing skin from my face.
The Queen {August 5th, 2008 at 10:32 am}
Basically it’s a way of making sure your rough skin doesn’t scratch ours. It’s a preventative measure. Like if you hear your feet scratching the sheets, exfoliating can take care of all that. lol
The Comeback Girl {August 5th, 2008 at 10:41 am}
im sorry if a man’s face is coming up like his feet…exfoiliation is not going to help…at that point a serious chemical peel may be in order…and by this time he’s ventured into “Make It Work” Tim Gunn territory.
kamakula {August 5th, 2008 at 4:04 pm}
this is BS. I use the harshest soaps and chicks are constantly saying my skin is soft. Even my ex with her 50 different cleansers would always be having other chicks, her advisor, etc, feel my face.
My conclusion: women are crazy.
Shay-d-lady {August 5th, 2008 at 11:31 am}
I have never said that sh!t. Sorry but I have very strict ideals about what I like my man to do. Eyebrow shaping/arching? Hell to the Naw! I don’t even want a man that knows what exfoliating is! Hell I dont even think men over 30 should wear shorts, and I hate men mules. The metro sexual sh!t is responsible for the demise of the black family. Men that can’t change tires because they are freshly manicured….disgusting. Stop the primping and pick up some of those Bob Villa books.
miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 11:39 am}
Men that can’t change tires because they are freshly manicured….disgusting. Stop the primping and pick up some of those Bob Villa books.
I FREAKIN’ LOVE IT!!!!!
The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 11:56 am}
“The metro sexual sh!t is responsible for the demise of the black family”
oh damn. tell us how you REALLY feel next time, lol
The Comeback Girl {August 5th, 2008 at 12:13 pm}
“and I hate men mules”
i just chocked on my Pike Place drip with steamed breve….I totally agree. What the hell is that shyt about, the back of your heel being out REQUIRES you get a damn WEEKLY pedi. And I don’t want to spend that kind of time with my man.
It hurt my heart to break down exfoiliation…its just somethings men don’t need to know.
A wash clothe with some dial or irish spring is all he needs. That exfoiliates his azz enough right there.
miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 1:14 pm}
A wash clothe with some dial or irish spring is all he needs
I tried to told ya…lol
The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 1:54 pm}
“A wash clothe with some dial or irish spring is all he needs. That exfoiliates his azz enough right there.”
this is my kind of washing
Miss Patterson {August 5th, 2008 at 12:43 pm}
speaking of metrosexuals, me and my girl got Mani/Pedis the other day and spotted two straight men in there getting the same treatment next to their girlfriends…so NOT cool.
The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 1:53 pm}
’speaking of metrosexuals, me and my girl got Mani/Pedis the other day and spotted two straight men in there getting the same treatment next to their girlfriends…so NOT cool.’
some more LA tomfoolery
miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 2:10 pm}
’speaking of metrosexuals, me and my girl got Mani/Pedis the other day and spotted two straight men in there getting the same treatment next to their girlfriends…so NOT cool.’
This is P-whipped to the 99th power.
The Comeback Girl {August 5th, 2008 at 2:44 pm}
Miss P I dont understand it. Some women think this is so cute…I feel like I’m being INVADED.
A mani/pedi/spa or all three is a SACRED SPACE…do you see me hangin out at in the men’s bathroom.
at a sports bar (during a major Nordstrom anniversary sale) NOOOOO you don’t. Ladies this is NOT “me and my man time”…thats what the very private spa’s at the mandarin are for, where yall can be in yall’s own special room for “private time”.
that should not be in a open communal woman’s space.
They also have shaving spots and spas for men now. Get him a spot there. Then come together in buffed manicured love.
GOODENess {August 5th, 2008 at 2:38 pm}
a dude with a flat iron is a hate crime waiting to happen…who does that? COMEBACK! please tell me you do NOT now a straight(ish) man that owns a gawtdam flat iron!
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The Comeback Girl {August 5th, 2008 at 2:59 pm}
No I don’t …but it starts with dipin and dabin in ONE product. It ONLY takes one ponds cleansing and makeup removing towelette for the snow ball affect..next he’s all up in your rich hydrating moisturizers…then he’s using your eye brow curler.
And your eyebrow curler is just two wrong turns to a hot curler. You see where I’m going ….
…let me get off of here and do some dam$n work.
The Comeback Girl {August 5th, 2008 at 3:08 pm}
**meant eyelash curler**
shay-d-lady {August 5th, 2008 at 4:26 pm}
I had to shut my husband down with the extra hydration stuff. I blame it on Jamaica. My husband is really dark skinned, we got married at a resort in Jamaica and the chicks were on him over there. I mean I am not jealous at all, so much so my husband has taken offense at times but in Jamaica I almost had to hurt one of those chicks! Anyway, we had to use sunscreen and a lot of lotion to keep from getting burned (yes even him). Apparently he got hooked on the slick and greasy look and started getting carried away. I almost divorced his a$$ when he used up all of my 10 dollar nivea sesame oil. It took some counseling but we are on the slow road to recovery.
Monnie {August 5th, 2008 at 4:48 pm}
” I almost divorced his a$$ when he used up all of my 10 dollar nivea sesame oil. It took some counseling but we are on the slow road to recovery.”
No offense but…
BWAHAHAHA!
The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 9:41 am}
“As much I abosolutely HATE TO ADMIT THIS. Generally women like what other women like. I hate writing it, just as much as I hate to admit it, particularly when I think my mama raised me to be my own woman.”
lol…this sounded almost theraputic.
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The Comeback Girl {August 5th, 2008 at 10:02 am}
Human nature..one of the reasons ALL people get the side-eye when asked how long ago were they actually in a relationship, if its right around the time Trapper John MD was on network TV and beating Dallas in the ratings…you have a problem.
People want to know that PEOPLE are desirable.
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miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 11:19 am}
if its right around the time Trapper John MD was on network TV and beating Dallas in the ratings…you have a problem.
HILARIOUS!!!!
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JBoogie {August 5th, 2008 at 11:31 am}
ah damn, she brought back Trapper John…that was my show right there lol!
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Hill is the standard? Word?? Do women know he’s SHORT!! As in MY height??
As far as following the crowd, nevuh that.
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miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 9:16 am}
He looks short. How short is he?
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miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 9:57 am}
According to imdb it says he’s 5′9.
Frankly, I think they are trying to squeeze a few inches in on us. (shout outs to Full Metal Jacket)
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The Comeback Girl {August 5th, 2008 at 9:51 am}
The scarf is also used for the vertical distraction. He aint fooling nobody.
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miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 9:56 am}
hahahah.
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Luvvie {August 5th, 2008 at 7:41 pm}
LMAO!! Aint ALL these hollywood men short??
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Hill Harper? Hill MF’in Harper. Are you serious?!
Oh hell naw.
I know he’s an actor, Ivy league educated, an Obama supporter, and now an author, but I ain’t following the crowd on this one.
Is that a scarf and pink striped shirt? Release the hounds.
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Monnie {August 5th, 2008 at 10:42 am}
Bwahahaha!
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GOODENess {August 5th, 2008 at 2:40 pm}
Is that a scarf and pink striped shirt? Release the hounds.
T-Lee… I got tears in my eyes ni99a…TEARS!! I am going to start saying that sh*t left and right…RELEASE THE HOUNDS!! bwwwahahhahaaaaaa
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miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 3:39 pm}
I’m glad we’ve made each other cry today.
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Luvvie {August 5th, 2008 at 7:42 pm}
I think I’m one of the few women who dont drool at the sight of Hill Harper. I just think he AIIIGGHHTT. Nothing special.
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Can the equation be adjusted to include the “money factor” Ninjas with GWOP get their marks raised on the daily too.
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 9:46 am}
“Can the equation be adjusted to include the “money factor” Ninjas with GWOP get their marks raised on the daily too.”
lol…money has a huge influence on “y”
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First I wanna say I’m glad to see Sista Toldja all posting up, I have missed her. And if you have been around before now, my bad – I’ve been uber busy. I’m supposed to be working now, but I’m not.
Anywhooo on to the topic at hand. I will loudly and proudly tell anyone I have never dated a man that was less than fine. Except for Wayne, and he doesn’t count. But one of y’all (women or men if you swang that way) may look at them and point out ugly ones. If a guy is funny to me, that increases his sexy by like a 3 fold. Unless he has ugly teeth. If he is smart AND funny? Oh I’m sold. I never was on any bandwagon … hell I think Jay-Z is sexy AND Tony Soprano is effing hawt.
But there are different things I am attracted to, and it isn’t always about the physical. I mean, I certainly appreciate the physical, don’t get me wrong. But just because the physical is on point doesn’t mean I wanna have the sects.
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miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 9:36 am}
Tony Soprano is effing hawt.
I concur. Don’t ask me why…lol
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Panama Jackson {August 5th, 2008 at 10:07 am}
“If a guy is funny to me, that increases his sexy by like a 3 fold. Unless he has ugly teeth. If he is smart AND funny? Oh I’m sold. I never was on any bandwagon … hell I think Jay-Z is sexy AND Tony Soprano is effing hawt.”
this just hightlights why there is no universal attractiveness to women and why women’s opinions on women should never be considered. 10 women will find 10 different men attractive.
if you put one hot chick in front of 10 men, 9 out of 10 of them will agree she’s hot. the odd man out? will be looking at another chick’s ass as she walks by.
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 10:23 am}
“if you put one hot chick in front of 10 men, 9 out of 10 of them will agree she’s hot. the odd man out? will be looking at another chick’s ass as she walks by.”
***mt. zion christian academy***
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Cheryl {August 5th, 2008 at 12:27 pm}
I really don’t think there is. What I might find attractive in one man, just doesn’t work for me in the next. I take men on a case by case basis, unless their teeth are jacked … then I don’t take them at all.
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MsSula {August 5th, 2008 at 10:52 am}
“But there are different things I am attracted to, and it isn’t always about the physical.”
So refreshing to read…
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i dunno i have dated some funny looking dudes that nobody had to tell me they were funny-looking, i just knew. i neevr made a decision on who i wanted to date (or any kind of decision otherwise) based on what other ppl think cause its my life and my pussy. thanx and good night.
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miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 9:37 am}
its my life and my pussy
I need a t-shirt. Thanks Shay!!!
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 9:39 am}
“its my life and my pussy
I need a t-shirt. Thanks Shay!!!”
you beat me to it
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shay {August 5th, 2008 at 11:41 am}
YEAH! finally got me a t-shirt quote!
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Flipping the script, the same happens to women. I can ask 10 of my female friends that were once single but are now in relationships and they will all tell you how men come on to them more now than when they were single.
It must be murphy’s law or law of attraction. A different type of vibe must radiate around one’s beings when they are in a relationship that attracts the opposite sex.
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The Comeback Girl {August 5th, 2008 at 10:07 am}
“Flipping the script, the same happens to women. I can ask 10 of my female friends that were once single but are now in relationships and they will all tell you how men come on to them more now than when they were single. ”
Yes Shelia SOO true. Its human nature. I think men are just as much entralled with “the untouchables”. I wore a cocktail ring once on my “wedding hand”. And this guy held it up and was like “you taken..damn”. I go “Actuallly Im not”..
and why did his azz seem less thrilled that I WASN’T married. WTF LOL
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 10:25 am}
“And this guy held it up and was like “you taken..damn”. I go “Actuallly Im not”..”
thats just game, lol
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Shelia {August 5th, 2008 at 11:36 am}
“and why did his azz seem less thrilled that I WASN’T married. WTF LOL”
The Comeback Girl, I’m ROFLMAO. Some men are a trip.
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The Queen {August 5th, 2008 at 10:24 am}
This totally happens to women too. For a woman, it seems all the men that you used to date resurface on some I can’t bare to lose you mentality once they see you are actually fully committed to another man. What’s that about?
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The Comeback Girl {August 5th, 2008 at 10:53 am}
so true…why do these men ALWAYS resurface…its like they can smell your happiness …some of it though I think is narccisim in a man ..its not about you…its about some other man “WINNING”.
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Dorian G. {August 5th, 2008 at 11:16 am}
Oh thats easy. If its an ex, its because our egos won’t allow us to face the fact that you could find any source of satisfaction or happiness in another guy (read: dick) but us.
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Treezy F. Baby {August 5th, 2008 at 1:52 pm}
AHHHH the young grasshopper learns something new today…writes this down.
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Shelia {August 5th, 2008 at 11:38 am}
The Queen – I agree with TheComeback Girl and Dorian. It’s like they can’t believe we’ve moved on to someone else who is possibly better than them inside and outside of the bedroom. It’s their male egos.
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JBoogie {August 5th, 2008 at 11:33 am}
It really does…it seems that when I’m coupled up, ninjas be trying to hollas left and right…that was always funny to me.
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Shelia {August 5th, 2008 at 11:40 am}
JBoogie,
When that used to happen to me, I would say, “where were you when I was single and available???”
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In terms of committed men being sexier, I think many women find this true. Here’s the reason…most women assume that men have problems with commitment. If a woman sees a man being happily committed to one woman, they are impressed and immediately intrigued by that man. It makes him seem rare and special. However, just because you find that man (or more so that quality) intriguing doesn’t mean you should try to have him for yourself. I think it’s totally selfish.
I’ve never been a bandwagon type of girl…the men that women usually flock to, I ignore. I hate to see women throwing themselves all over any man, especially one they don’t know.
That being said, some men are just hot. Boris Kodjoe was the hotness when he was modeling. Once everyone was sweating him, I lost a little interest. Once he got married, I lost most of the interest. I try not to hate on black love or love period for that matter. Mr. Harper is not bad but a little small for my overall taste. He just looks little to me but maybe in person, he could convince me otherwise.
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Deviant {August 5th, 2008 at 10:48 am}
so women find commitment attractive so you try to bag someone else man..can you see the irony in that?
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The Queen {August 5th, 2008 at 11:28 am}
Oh totally. It’s a cruel, cruel world out there. jk lol
I don’t think there is anything wrong with admiring that a man is committed. Every woman can acknowledge a good man when they see one. The problem is when you try to attain that man for yourself.
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kamakula {August 5th, 2008 at 4:08 pm}
good thing I held back for a split second. I figured if someone would’ve mentioned this, it would be you Deviant.
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MsSula {August 5th, 2008 at 10:56 am}
“Here’s the reason…most women assume that men have problems with commitment. If a woman sees a man being happily committed to one woman, they are impressed and immediately intrigued by that man.”
People really do think like this??? What type of convoluted craziness is this?
I must be from Jupiter…
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There is plenty of generalizations in that post…
But I hear that’s a bandwagon men like to climb aboard.
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 3:54 pm}
“There is plenty of generalizations in that post…
But I hear that’s a bandwagon men like to climb aboard.”
yup. the lazy thinking allows us to clear our minds for fantasy football
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Who is Hill Harper and why does he matter? He looks like that dude that got murdered in that movie The Skulls. When did he become a big deal? Why is this the first time I even knew this dude’s name? Did his name get drawn out of a hat?
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 10:43 am}
“He looks like that dude that got murdered in that movie The Skulls”
that was him
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Deviant {August 5th, 2008 at 10:52 am}
My grandfather would pistol whip him. He has on a scarf and a pink shirt.
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miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 11:14 am}
I was waiting on this. lol
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No More Heroes {August 5th, 2008 at 10:50 am}
“He looks like that dude that got murdered in that movie The Skulls.”
He is. I’ll always remember him from that, and when he was hanging with Ray Allen in He Got Game.
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Intellectual Hedonist {August 5th, 2008 at 11:23 am}
He’s a Brown Univ Alumn… though I dont remember him when he was here, must not have had that swagger yet…lol
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I wonder if it’s a subconscious thing. Like women know instinctively that there is one less man out there for them (since women outnumber men) and so they start sweatin the ones already taken. Not sure.
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 11:58 am}
“I wonder if it’s a subconscious thing. Like women know instinctively that there is one less man out there for them (since women outnumber men) and so they start sweatin the ones already taken. ”
***squinting in deep thought***
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‘and why did his azz seem less thrilled that I WASN’T married. WTF LOL’
ha ha ha ha h ha, that’s sooo WRONG, comeback girl!
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In fairness to the ladies here, a lot of times men do bandwagon it ourselves. However we do it for the collective good of the community.
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The Queen {August 5th, 2008 at 11:30 am}
Please explain…I can’t wait to hear this.
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Dorian G. {August 5th, 2008 at 2:07 pm}
When men bandwagon it, its usually because we have to for the collective good of the black community. Its almost like a survival mechanism that kicks in that allows us to view women as gorgeous classic beauties, who normally would not be. Because for the sake of our sisters and what we want them to aspire to be, we NEED Michelle Obama, Jill Scott, The William Sisters, and a few others to be widely considered beautiful women inside and out. For my sister who is struggling to make it through, and has her eyes on an Ivy League degree, she needs to see me speak on Michelle with the same intensity and passion that i speak on Bria Myles and Esther Baxter. For the white dude that works with me and likes to crack jokes on our sisters, he needs to understand that i’m defending Jill with the same ferocity that I do Beyonce. And I can’t do any of that if I don’t believe that their gorgeous myself. See survival mechanism. Usher marries Tameka, what was he thinking? Common shacks up with Serena, nobody blinks an eye.
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The Comeback Girl {August 5th, 2008 at 3:21 pm}
“Its almost like a survival mechanism that kicks in that allows us to view women as gorgeous classic beauties, who normally would not be. Because for the sake of our sisters and what we want them to aspire to be, we NEED Michelle Obama, Jill Scott, The William Sisters, and a few others to be widely considered beautiful women inside and out”
so you wouldn’t be able to naturally see this without a collective bandwagon??? Why can;t these women just have varied differences of beauty.
And how do video vixens even end up in the same conversation with Michelle Obama??
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Dorian G. {August 5th, 2008 at 3:54 pm}
Well as this website has repeatedly slammed into our heads, the vast majority of men generally agree on the beauty of a woman. In normal life, if I walked into a club and saw Jill Scott I’ll categorize and refer to her as the decent looking big girl, big girl w/ cute face…etc. Certainly nothing that would hold my attention all night or make me run across the room to talk to her. However because she’s Beautifully Human Jill Scott, dudes are talking bout they’ll drink her bathwater blah blah blah. I recognize the reason for this, and you know it does make her prettier and overall more attractive. So yes I admit to bandwagoning when it comes to Jill. If she’s reading this hey boo!
The Comeback Girl {August 5th, 2008 at 4:07 pm}
***Oh God…I can’t come here tomorrow!!! I gets NO work done…***
I appreciate the honesty BUT are you serious??? But I do appreciate the honesty. As much as I hate the saying..thats “real talk”.
I think its ok for you to think Jill isn’t your cup of tea. But you don’t need to put on “band waggon” goggles to assert something different. But I take special offense when you suggest that Jilly from Philly is charity bandwagon when other men would “drink her bathwater”.
If I was a dude, I would probably too. (I’d also like to make a point that prior to her divorce situation and movie that required additional weight gain-she was an average size 14/16 “big girl”).
I mean come on, the woman talks about pleasing her man, in her first project she was making grits, biscuits from scratch, eggs, toast…(I also lived in PA right before she dropped and I’d seen her and Jazzyfat IN PERSON at the 5spot and she’s gorgeous).
She’s super creative. And beautiful…why wouldnt a man drink her bath water COLD.
I just think we need to be careful about justifying what OTHER men think as something other than geniune.
The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 3:36 pm}
“When men bandwagon it, its usually because we have to for the collective good of the black community. Its almost like a survival mechanism that kicks in that allows us to view women as gorgeous classic beauties, who normally would not be. Because for the sake of our sisters and what we want them to aspire to be, we NEED Michelle Obama, Jill Scott, The William Sisters, and a few others to be widely considered beautiful women inside and out”
you know, i have to say that ive done this before when i was younger, in a situation where i had a choice between two equally attractive women, and i chose the darker skinned one just to “balance out” the equation and start my own bandwagon, since, admittedly, if given the choice, most of my cats would have chosen the lighter skinned chick.
thing is, i later realized that this was condescending and patronizing. i wasnt doing her a “favor”. choosing to be with a darker-skinned woman just to make a small political statement is no better than choosing a lighter skinned woman just because you think you’ll get more props from your boys.
theres nothing wrong with saying that the esther baxters of the world are more physically attractive than the michelle obamas, and its disingenuous (and dangerous) to suggest otherwise if you dont honestly feel that way. saying this doesnt imply that you think the obama’s are unattractive and that you think the baxters are better wifey material…just that you think esther is better looking physically.
some people are just better looking than others, and, again, theres nothing wrong with saying that. you can go ga-ga over the esthers and the kenya moores while still appreciating qualities that other women possess. its not an either/or
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Dorian G. {August 5th, 2008 at 4:10 pm}
“some people are just better looking than others, and, again, theres nothing wrong with saying that. you can go ga-ga over the esthers and the kenya moores while still appreciating qualities that other women possess. its not an either/or”
Oh I agree. I’m just giving my hypothesis on why men bandwagon it. I’m not saying its either/or, but dudes feel some kind of way saying Kim Kardashian is hot, but Venus Williams is ugly. And you and I both know dudes are quick to point out girls they think are ugly. I am just saying the bandwagon exists for men, but for different reasons.
kind of reminds me – i once dated a lovely guy, it was a love supreme. he was nerdy and slightly odd looking, but i just laaahved him!
he was also an extremely talented emerging musician…. i used to get so much shit for dating him – coz apparently i’m gorgeous and he wasn’t. then, shortly after we broke up, he totally blew right up (career-wise) , and was universally hailed by all women as the hottest, sensitive brother type around…. WTF? all i got was grief from my rellies (relatives) and friends for the 2 years we were together- even the damn receptionist at my job was like ‘haaai girl, your boyfriend is UGLY – and said in Zulu, that really really HURTS. much worse than English, please believe me… *silently licking my wounds, all these years later*.
i didn’t really care what anyone thought, but i was aghast at how harshly he was judged just coz he wasn’t conventionally attractive. he’s such a beautiful soul, it killed me that people would just dismiss him like that…. ah well. he’s happily married to an extra beautiful woman today, and he’s a successful and happy musician – so i guess substance won out over the shallow bullshit…
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 11:59 am}
“even the damn receptionist at my job was like ‘haaai girl, your boyfriend is UGLY – and said in Zulu, that really really HURTS”
ice cold!
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Men in relationships are non-threatening. They’ve already been trained, eg. putting the toilet seat down, and have already passed another woman’s inspection. Womens’ defenses go down because they know he’s not trying to do the hunka chunka. Then comes the forbidden fruit effect coupled with the bandwagon effect. I also think that women like to test mens’ resolve only to treat him like doo doo water if he responds to the provocation.
I’m amazed at how many women open up and say the most inappropriate* things and dismiss it with, “oh he’s married…its okay!” Oh, and lets not forget the “if you weren’t married” lines!
*words that instantly trigger thoughts of nakedness and black lights
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 12:00 pm}
“words that instantly trigger thoughts of nakedness and black lights”
black lights?
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Teech {August 5th, 2008 at 1:03 pm}
get on my level
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 1:50 pm}
damn
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“so i guess substance won out over the shallow bullshit…”
I need a tee-shirt with that!
Substance over Shallow Bullshit
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Ok so after that quote… I was taken so off focus that none of that equation mess made sense…
but I will say that I have always been smitten with chocolate brothas… its just something about dark skin that makes you want to lick their face to see if its sweet.. OK maybe that was a little too much
but anyway… LMAO @ wagons giving you motion sickness… you are crazy!
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 12:02 pm}
“its just something about dark skin that makes you want to lick their face to see if its sweet”
i feel the same way about boobies and booties. wait…did i just say that aloud?
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JBoogie {August 5th, 2008 at 3:10 pm}
TMI…:)
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The bandwagon is the whole reason for so many women being inexplicably attracted to Lil’ Wayne. One stupid hood rat proclaimed her love for him on a radio shout out and it caused a chain reaction within all the women who heard her, and then they started to argue with their friends about his swagger making up for his goblinesque appearance. I think men have this issue a lot less than women. I can only really speak for myself, but what I think is good looking is usual never what the general public agrees with. I like thick women, so therefore I refuse to act like i like Beyonce just because half the other guys in America think she is bangin. In Dreamgirls, Jennifer Hudson could have got it light years before B ever would have. Even after she got older and was rocking the TWA! Women have hive minds. Why do you think Bees, Ants, etc. are all female except for a few males who do nothing but mate with the queen and act independent of the hive/colony.
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miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 11:36 am}
“One stupid hood rat proclaimed her love for him on a radio shout out and it caused a chain reaction within all the women who heard her, and then they started to argue with their friends about his swagger making up for his goblinesque appearance”
I asked my homegirl if she could read the E on the eyechart after she told me Lil’ Wayne was fine. I STILL don’t get it.
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MsSula {August 5th, 2008 at 11:40 am}
I am with you miss t-lee. I’m always like are you freaking serious?
He looks like Yoda sans the wisdom. not.my.cup.of.tea.
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Shay-d-lady {August 5th, 2008 at 11:41 am}
Although I agree that some women do have hive minds, I would also like to note that its not all women, but a certain type of woman that displays this behavior. This woman is normally attractive and inexplicably single. She is very trendy, often pretentious and lives her whole life based on what other’s think. This is often they type of woman that will date and marry an obviously gay man because he has all the trappings of wealth and then claim to be victim of the ‘down low” phenom.
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 3:16 pm}
“This is often they type of woman that will date and marry an obviously gay man because he has all the trappings of wealth and then claim to be victim of the ‘down low” phenom”
hmmm…interesting point.
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JBoogie {August 5th, 2008 at 11:42 am}
Um, ick…Lil Wayne will NEVER be attractive…even if I was blind, deaf AND dumb.
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 12:04 pm}
i think the attraction to lil wayne can be traced back to destiny child’s “soilder” vid. i didnt start to hear nhr’s (non hood-rats) profess their attraction to him until then.
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miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 2:34 pm}
Nah…I know chicks who thought he was fine before that. Like during the “Bling, Bling” days. And he was extra ugly then…lol
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Dom {August 5th, 2008 at 3:00 pm}
That would be me. I liked Wayne since them Cash Money days, and Im still a fan today. Although I will admit he’s not conventionally attractive, I still acted like a crazed fan at his concert a couple months ago.
I’ve never been one of those bandwagon women so the rocks that are thrown for my Wayne affinity are nothing new. I just likes what I likes.
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 3:15 pm}
“I’ve never been one of those bandwagon women so the rocks that are thrown for my Wayne affinity are nothing new.”
when the rocks are thrown, do you duck, or just run out of the way zigzagging so that they wont hit you?
Dom {August 5th, 2008 at 3:58 pm}
????
A little bit of both, which explains these bruises. Wayne’s worth it though.
GOODENess {August 5th, 2008 at 2:43 pm}
eff dat…Lil Wayne looks like a fetus…
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miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 3:33 pm}
LMAO!!!!!!
Holy ish…my co-worker just looked at me I laughed so loud!!!!
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Luvvie {August 5th, 2008 at 8:39 pm}
Lil Wayne is like a cockroach in MANY ways. Not only does he look like one (I’d imagine if we knew what roach’s faces look like), but he wont “die” in the music industry. No matter how much TOMFOOLERY he releases. The fact that women find his yuckmouth attractive is a testament to the bandwagon thing. And I hold my head in shame for my womenfolk.
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re: “exfoliation” cuz the reply comments button isn’t working; fix that sh*t!
hmm…should men exfoliate? good question… this made me think of that scene in American Psycho. Christian Bale can exfoliate all day and I wouldn’t be mad at him!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hloiO0Kli20
(not cubicle safe, but if you can close the door, watch it!)
conclusion: exfoliation is good, and shower scenes are too.
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Hmmm, I agree to disagree with this topic. I do think one group or chick can find flaws and discredit a said hot but I do not think that 1 person can determine if a guy is hot. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Nelly is hot, Blair Underwood is hot, and Terrence Howard (w/ murse) is hot. Now li’ wayne, Jordan, and Wesley Snipes are NOT.
However, keep in mind, just because they are not hot doesn’t mean they cannot get it! **chick logic**
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miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 11:58 am}
Terrence Howard (w/ murse)
I can’t get with him, or the murse.
Not the business.
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The Comeback Girl {August 5th, 2008 at 12:26 pm}
I hate the word MURSE…..and Manbagger….
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JBoogie {August 5th, 2008 at 1:14 pm}
nah…it’s something about him that screams DL in big flashing neon lights…
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miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 1:16 pm}
Could it be his actual speaking voice? That’s what does it for me…lol
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GOODENess {August 5th, 2008 at 2:46 pm}
murse equals b*tch bag…now they are trying to call them “swags”…ni99a it’s still a PURSE! I have even heard a song about “swag” matching his “outfit”…men don’t wear “outfits” do they? let alone COORDINATE that sh*t with a damn PURSE…
(hands on knees talking in condescending toddler voice)
whos got a b*tch bag?…you do..yes you do…yes you do!!
UGH!
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JBoogie {August 5th, 2008 at 3:11 pm}
Girl, I’mma send you a bill for making me bust my gut laughing!
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 3:13 pm}
“murse equals b*tch bag…now they are trying to call them “swags”…ni99a it’s still a PURSE! I have even heard a song about “swag” matching his “outfit”…men don’t wear “outfits” do they? let alone COORDINATE that sh*t with a damn PURSE…”
this comment is your ticket out the closet for at least 2 weeks
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miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 3:31 pm}
Way to call ‘em out.
Swags? Really is that what they are trying to call them?
Men with purses ain’t got no swag.
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Ya know, I was never that bandwagon chick…which is why in college, I KEPT a BF. While other chicas were on the bandwagon trying to get at the “hot boys” (and fighting about fuggin’ each other’s ‘man’, catching STDs, etc.) I was perfectly content with my nerd or geek boy. When they’d repeatedly ask me what I saw in a guy, cause I was obviously TOO CUTE (their words) or whatever to be with them, I’d refer them to the movie Revenge of the Nerds, in particular the scene where Betty (the cute sorority girl) accidently mistakes Louis (one of the nerds) for her BF Stan (one of the jocks) and ends doing him. Betty was a convert after that LOL…
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I dont like Terrence Howard.. he is quite suspect especially since the whole baby wipes fiasco. I am sorry the only men I know that carry around baby wipes also carry a douche and astroglide….
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 1:02 pm}
“I am sorry the only men I know that carry around baby wipes also carry a douche and astroglide….”
what baby wipes fiasco? and whats wrong with owning some lube?
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miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 1:21 pm}
This baby wipes fiasco…
http://jezebel.com/gossip/top/terrence-howard-thinks-women-are-unclean-and-dressed-like-whores-287242.php
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 1:46 pm}
oh wow. this almost seems like a joke interview, lol. i’ll never watch “mr. holland’s opus” in the same light again
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miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 3:45 pm}
I don’t think it was a joke. I can’t believe you hadn’t read that before.
shay-d-lady {August 5th, 2008 at 4:02 pm}
there is nothing wrong with owning lube singularly, but in conjunction with wipes and a douche along with the fact that you have them on your person on most occasions ..your either a gay man or a prostitute or both….
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 6:04 pm}
“there is nothing wrong with owning lube singularly, but in conjunction with wipes and a douche along with the fact that you have them on your person on most occasions ..your either a gay man or a prostitute or both…”
duly noted
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Luvvie {August 5th, 2008 at 8:59 pm}
“Slickback Ivanhoe”, as Crunktastical likes to call Terrence Howard, it a hot ass mess. He is on my “only if he is the last man on Earth and it is up to me to keep the human race from going extinct” list.
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You are such an ass for citing me in this post. LOL.
I still love you though, Champ. I’m a sadist like that.
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 1:00 pm}
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The Queen {August 5th, 2008 at 2:58 pm}
I was waiting for you to say something Liz…all day I waited. Ok, not all day but still. You can love Hill if you want to. lol
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Liz {August 5th, 2008 at 5:04 pm}
Hahah! Yes, it took me a while to get in here and weigh in lolol.
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And can we stop all the hateration on Hill? He’s a positive beautiful man, inside and out. Ya’ll need hobbies!
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 1:03 pm}
lol…this made me choke on my catfish and jelly
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WuDaMan {August 5th, 2008 at 2:25 pm}
hey how was the catfish prepared? What kind of jelly?
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 3:12 pm}
“hey how was the catfish prepared? What kind of jelly?”
fried with a biscuit and some grape jelly.
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WuDaMan {August 5th, 2008 at 3:25 pm}
I think I’m gonna need you to stop entertaining me when I inquire about your gastronomic endevors. You killin me. Or is it the dietitiean? Cuz I love biscuits w/ grape jelly, and I miss J J’s fish so bad it is about to be worth a flight out to pick up a fillet dinner.
BigBuck {August 5th, 2008 at 4:23 pm}
Y’all boys don’t know about good catfish! Stop faking! LOL!
GOODENess {August 5th, 2008 at 2:48 pm}
Liz..you calling Hill haters “hobbyless hoes”???…lol…I spit kool aid all over my cube…somebody owes Komen a monitor!!
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Liz {August 5th, 2008 at 5:05 pm}
ROFL!!!!
I’m not sayin….I’m just sayin….
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My 2 cents on the band wagon effect
- Visibile Effect – If shorties see you out and about with your gal, you prolly got a cup full of swag and it’s splashing all over chicks.
It’s a 2-fer. You’ve got the forbidden fruit/female competition gene. Lot of these chicks above is lying, they compete like a mf’er all the god damn time, especially with their “friends”.
Then there’s the “Black Love” effect – ie for whatever reasons, black women love to see black couples.
- 2 – the Invisible Effect – Women who don’t see that you’re with another woman, but some how find you attractive.
a) the Dog who’s turned faithful. She thinks that sexing a man down 3 times a day would keep his eye/mind from wandering – but it only heightens his senses, as he realizes a lot more chicks are feeling him than the was previously aware of.
All that sex and intimacy has given him a Spider Sense for sex.
He’s so used to seeing his woman’s piques in her interest – he starts to notice the micro-movements of that phat ass in Accounting.
That, “can you hand me the TPS reports” gets translated for what it really yes, “let me put my hand on your tip…”
“Damn she be lingering @ in my cube an extra 19 nano-seconds”
And the thing is, before you wouldn’t have seen the signs.
You wouldn’t notice the pumps, hair style changes, how she gets along with them other chicks
BUT NOW YOU SEE IT. You feel like a dumb ass, cause you coulda done been way up in that – cause she been giving you the “make happy brown babies with me” vibe.
Oh wait, am I projecting again…
b) She actually improved his game – Women love projects. They tell you that they don’t have any hobbies, but they LIE. You’re her hobby.
She took your crusty ass, washed you up, bought you some new cologne and a shirt, got you some new Prada shoes – basically did some stuff you’d never do, cause you spending money on important stuff, like a 78″ flat screen, a GPS, shorting bank stocks and ETF’s.
So you went from toad to African Prince in a few months.
She made you over, upgraded you, et cetera.
As for all that she gave him confidence stuff – it’s BS. There are plenty of middled aged married men who aren’t getting more than a please and thank you from the fairer sex.
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 1:16 pm}
“He’s so used to seeing his woman’s piques in her interest – he starts to notice the micro-movements of that phat ass in Accounting.
That, “can you hand me the TPS reports” gets translated for what it really yes, “let me put my hand on your tip…”
“Damn she be lingering @ in my cube an extra 19 nano-seconds”
And the thing is, before you wouldn’t have seen the signs.
You wouldn’t notice the pumps, hair style changes, how she gets along with them other chicks
BUT NOW YOU SEE IT. You feel like a dumb ass, cause you coulda done been way up in that – cause she been giving you the “make happy brown babies with me” vibe.
Oh wait, am I projecting again…”
lol…yeah. maybe you and esther in accounting need to get a room
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I’d read an article some time ago about this very topic. It’s a scientifically proven. The rationale however stems from sex. Apparently, when you are having it regularly, you’ll give off more pheromones, attracting the opposite sex. So your guy who was formerly a zero gets broken off on a regular becomes hero…all because of the nookie.
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 1:22 pm}
“So your guy who was formerly a zero gets broken off on a regular becomes hero…all because of the nookie”
***screaming***
“I did it all for the nookie!!
C’mon
The nookie!!
C’mon
So you can take that cookie
And stick it up your, yeah!!
Stick it up your, yeah!!
Stick it up your, yeah!!”
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miss t-lee {August 5th, 2008 at 1:33 pm}
That was a great song…going to youtube right now, so I can rock out.
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Haven’t read the comments…massuh is making me work at work..WTF??!
anyway…I have always thought MosDef had a beautiful smile and since I love his persona, mindset, and political opinions…I find him attractive…but not Hill Harper…not so much…he looks like the orange dude from Sin City…lol…bandwagon aside…I have noticed that when I say a man is attractive…I usually get a few tag-a-longs…but I got good taste like that and sh*t…
as far as wedding rings and committed ninjas…again…this too shall pass…seemingly happily committed men are like “walking skank nip”…don’t let said “b*tch bait” have a beautiful woman…then it’s like a 98% sale at Nordy’s up in there!
moral of the story ladies…when it’s not yours, married d*ck tastes funny…(so I’ve heard…) avoid it at all costs…lol
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WuDaMan {August 5th, 2008 at 2:32 pm}
Good I got a question. “I usually get a few tag-a-longs…” I think that is how lots of women socialize though. I think it stems from the pre adolescent years when everyone was trying to “belong” to something, a group, assimilate ‘get like me’ attitude that was going around. What do you think about what I think?
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GOODENess {August 5th, 2008 at 2:50 pm}
we (people regardless of sex) seek validation in some way, shape, or form…and we seek said validation from peer groups and those we admire…what can I say..my birds admire me and sh*t..lol
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BigBuck {August 5th, 2008 at 3:25 pm}
YEAH! Why do you think I got started on this blog? I needed more witnesses to my awsometasticness! It was boring being that awesome alone. So i came here to have you all validate my awesomeness! LOL! Just playing!…….Sort of……
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WuDaMan {August 5th, 2008 at 3:32 pm}
Word Buck kind of like the reason God created us all to share his Awsome. I can see it.
GOODENess {August 5th, 2008 at 5:11 pm}
@ BUCK…is that right?? lol… come on over to the corner… I got some validation for that @ss…
I think the bandwagon works both ways. When I am single, nobody is trynna be bothered with me. When I am boo’d up I have to fight them all off with a stick. My theory is when you’re single, you come off less sure of yourself than when you’re in a relationship. You’re not caring so much about how you come across to the opposite sex, you’re just living your (boo’d up) life, carefree. I think people pick up on THAT and not neccessarily what your relationship status is.
The same goes for fat girls who lose 80 lbs. No, sweetie pple aren’t loving you more cuz ur skinny, they’re loving you more because you love yourself more, and it’s finally showing.
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 3:04 pm}
“The same goes for fat girls who lose 80 lbs. No, sweetie pple aren’t loving you more cuz ur skinny, they’re loving you more because you love yourself more, and it’s finally showing.”
**christian brothers academy**
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SouthernCharm {August 6th, 2008 at 11:11 am}
… not to mention she lost the 2nd trimester look!
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JBoogie {August 5th, 2008 at 3:13 pm}
Speak on it girl!
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WuDaMan {August 5th, 2008 at 3:35 pm}
**pass some of that kool aid** I’m ready.
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Dorian G. {August 5th, 2008 at 5:00 pm}
I dunno Liz that 80 lbs also helped a lot.
A whole lot.
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There is nothing more unattrative than a commited guy. I wouldn’t even give him the time of day. I don’t even carry converstations with friend’s guys/husbands bey0nd typical greetings. Just not worth it. WHat’s the point?
It has never happened to me — but people who hanker after men/women who are taken just piss me off. There are too many single men/women in the world to fall for that kind of retardedness.
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The Queen {August 5th, 2008 at 3:03 pm}
“There is nothing more unattrative than a commited guy. I wouldn’t even give him the time of day.”
A committed guy that tries to holla is no longer committed. That ish is never cool.
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 3:06 pm}
“There are too many single men/women in the world to fall for that kind of retardedness.”
i agree. theres billions of potential np out there, why holla at something already taken?
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P.S. Get site you brothas have here. I just discovered it last week…
so…
um…
are ya’ll single or what?
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BigBuck {August 5th, 2008 at 4:37 pm}
“are ya’ll single or what?”
CHAMP! GOOGENESS! SOMEBODY HOLD ME BACK!!!!! LOL! Zahara, you may as well have walked into an NRA conference with a bullseye on your chest and a picket sign that reads “Ben Hur Sucks!”.
But to answer your question, since I assume it was directed at the entire group, Some of us are single, some are not. I hope you don’t swim with the silhouette of a wounded baby seal, because there are sharks out here! LOL! And the Champ is a Great White, so watch out for him and WuDaMAN!<—–meager attempt at haterism (I don’t practice so I am no good at it.)
At any rate, welcome! God Dammit Welcome! And you will either be glad you found this site because it will change your life, or you will hate this site because it will change your life!
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Zahara {August 5th, 2008 at 5:07 pm}
HAHAHAHAHAHA@Big Buck.
Thanks for the welcome & the warning ;0
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GOODENess {August 5th, 2008 at 5:13 pm}
you will either be glad you found this site because it will change your life, or you will hate this site because it will change your life!
@Buck…couldn’t have typed it better myself…lol
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 6:07 pm}
big buck took the words out of my mouth
**note to self: this will be the last time i ever write the sentences containing the words “my mouth”, “big”, “took”, and “buck”**
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Intellectual Hedonist {August 5th, 2008 at 8:29 pm}
if you scramble those words around you come up with some interesting sentences…
“big buck took the words out of my mouth”
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Luvvie {August 5th, 2008 at 9:09 pm}
WELCOME Zahara!!! Take ur coat off and stay a while.
**Watch out for the co’nah. That’s GOODEness’ permanent hood.
**Stay out the kitchen, lest you want to be assaulted by The Champ’s random dishes, like catfish, jelly, cocoa puffs, and strawberries smoothies
If you stick to those tips, you shall be alright.
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Zahara {August 5th, 2008 at 9:53 pm}
Thanks Luvvie. And totally dig your blog.
Where they heck have black people been hiding all along? I’m just discovering one good blog after another….not good for my GPA cause I’m not studying anymore.
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Luvvie {August 5th, 2008 at 10:23 pm}
‘Preciate that Z!
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Dorian G. {August 5th, 2008 at 10:19 pm}
Hey Zahara, welcome to the site. You’re new here so don’t forget to submit your resume, complete with headshot, side profile, and full length body pic and we’ll see about introducing you to a nice Hill Harper type brother as soon as possible.
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Deviant:
Flat + Ass = Flass
…and only a 36C
Father is black and mother is native american…my guy friends tend to think that my hair gets men…which is some ol’ silly shit. They laugh and I do too. Boys are silly…heeheehee
Either way…it was the bandwagon effect.
…but SON! …that does not take from the fact that I am the shit still…lol
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The Champ {August 5th, 2008 at 6:09 pm}
“Flat + Ass = Flass
…and only a 36C
Father is black and mother is native american…my guy friends tend to think that my hair gets men…which is some ol’ silly shit. They laugh and I do too. Boys are silly…heeheehee
Either way…it was the bandwagon effect.
…but SON! …that does not take from the fact that I am the shit still…lol”
***today’s winner of our daily “non sequitor comment of the day” award***
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Champ and P,
*Monk gives the obligatory arm over the shoulder on some ‘brothahood’ type shit*
Guys, I didn’t make it through all the comments but DAMN!!
Can us fellas please get a “March Madness”??
The wonderful ladies on this site can express their celebrity crushes but we can’t?? C’mon now, let’s be fair…lol.
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Champ, you are AWESOMER than perfectly soft “Now n Laters” nd Pink Starburst.
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Just a comment on the mos def/alana wyatt link. Let’s talk about how these bum-ass groupies jump on bandwagons. Wow, this BIRD has definitely flown the coop. How are you gonna write a self-help book for women and give them relationship advice when your full-time job is getting slayed and played by the NBA and Hip-Hop’s finest? All of us know plenty of bad chicks who look just as good and deal with celebs, but why don’t they all feel they have to spill the beans and write a tell-all? Because bad chicks move in silence, real talk. She is making women who date celebs look deceiving and malicious! U are not a bad chick if you were only ready to realize your goals (ie: getting a BMW X?!? Step your game up mama! “We don’t drive X5’s we give ‘em to baby mamas”-Jay-Z) once you married Mos Def! U didn’t have goals before that? Now she wants Lil’ Wayne…who’s next, Rick Ross? (See a pattern here: Hip-Hop Baby father’s, phony ass-marriages, rumors of physical abuse, writing a tell-all book–I smell a Superhead clone.) At least Carmen was engaged to Nas at one point and they were together 9 years. Alana is talking all that I don’t let my feelings get hurt” but you’re writing a book, playing yourself! It’s not what you do it’s how you do it! So condescending, her sex game probably is wack. And the biggest disgrace is for her to say, “I don’t even listen to Hip-Hop.” HA! And y’all dumb-ass ballers still fall for these hoes! Hold ya head Mos! The lesson in this all: The wife always prevails over the jump-offs, no matter what. (See the wives of Ja Rule, Shaq, Kobe, Nas, etc.) Not hating, I’m just saying…
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