“We know that obesity and its co-morbidities are going to rob individuals of quality and quantity of life. What good is it to go through college, get your bachelor’s degree at Lincoln University, go get your graduate degree, work for five, six, seven years, and all of a sudden, you experience a catastrophic health issue associated with obesity? That would be a tragedy. We believe that it’s our professional educators’ responsibility to alert students to this.”
—dr. james deboy (chair, department of health, physical education and recreation, lincoln university), explaining the rationale behind lincoln’s stance that students with body mass indexes exceeding 30 will not be able to graduate unless they take a one-credit gym class
you know, even though i disagree with the approach (using BMI as a concrete indicator of health is about as reliable as delonte west), the implementation (how much will one walking class really help someone in dire need of dietary assistance?), the hypocrisy (from what i’ve read, the only green thing you’ll find in a lincoln university cafeteria is lemon-lime kool-aid) the jar of stigma and discrimination worms this opens up, and the fact that a select group of students are being required to do something that would actually benefit the entire population, i actually don’t think that lincoln university’s idea is a bad one.
if the goal of a college or university is to produce well-rounded alums, it makes sense to attempt to curtail a life-altering and potentially life-threatening issue that plagues a good percentage of their population.
but, why stop there? while obesity is undoubtedly a serious issue, i can think of a ton of other “classes” that graduating lincoln seniors could take t0 help alter dangerous behavior, prepare them for the real world, and improve their “quality and quantity of life”.
wouldn’t all the liberal arts majors benefit from “its a recession, which means that your sh*tty ass degree is even more worthless now: 501″, a class convincing them to get as many graduate degrees as possible while also teaching them valuable trades such as bartending, waitressing, shoplifting, and blogging? i know i would have.
for all the graduating seniors on the football and basketball teams with serious nfl and nba aspirations, wouldn’t a class titled “you’re not just at an hbcu. you’re at a division two hbcu. this means the nfl and nba probably aren’t checking for you: 302″ help them make their post-sports transitions?
i can think of at least two benefits of having all the graduating males take “you graduated. this means leave campus and stop trying to f*ck all of the freshmen: 101″
1. because there would be more available men to date, less graduating women would be required to attend the “one hundred and one ways to get closer to your newly purchased litter of kittens” seminar
2. the freshmen and sophomore males still on campus wouldn’t grow bitter at the fact that all those 23-year-olds with cars and beards and atm cards were taking the cream of their crop. and, subsequently, they won’t feel the need to pledge sigma or que
just think about how many hours of useless conversations and arguments we wouldn’t have to listen to anymore if all the budding huey newtons, angela davis’s, and conspiracy theorists had to take a “take off the tinfoil. its really not that serious. really: 402″ class, and were then made to attend a weekend retreat where they were forced to actually laugh, read cosmo’s and maxim’s, and have sex with another human being.
anyway, people of vsb.com, how do you feel about lincoln university’s obesity stance? do you think this is a step in the right direction, or a step in a field full of bad idea and lawsuit landmines?
also, can you think of any other special “classes” that could benefit graduating seniors?
—the champ
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I think it sounds great. Put all the fat…errr, BMI-challenged folk in one room to prance around and after they will go to Denny’s and chow down on a couple thousand calories and figure out a way to
eatget back at the person (s) responsible for their trama.Kudos.
@jana.love,
i see somebody didnt take their politically correct pills this morning
@jana.love, You just made me wonder…why exactly is it that emotional eaters don’t binge on some fcukn carrot/celery sticks??
@HabitualLineCrossa,
…where’s the fun in that?
@AkShone, where’s the fun in a person being insecure and mad at themselves cos of their weight when they coulda done something about it in the first place? Where’s the fun in condoms? Hell I HATE them…but I HATE STDS/HIV/AIDS’andem MUCH MUCH MORE.
Adult 101: Gotta sacrifice for what you desire.
Adult 102: Instant gratification most of the time leads to some sh!t you never wanted.
@HabitualLineCrossa, there really is an entire line of Adult Classes one could and should take.
you could sell them in the stand next to the Rosetta Stone guy at the mall and make millions.
@HabitualLineCrossa,
lmao harsh but true!!
@HabitualLineCrossa,
LOL, wtf?
I love me some carrot sticks, but when it comes to pure bliss:
Peach cobbler > carrot sticks
@Cheekie, I feel ya…but damn…bliss sometimes gets one in trouble…ask Tiger.
@HabitualLineCrossa,
It does, most def. I was just commenting on your original question. The bad stuff just tastes hella good, naturally. Junk food makes folks wanna sing, “If lovin’ you is wrong, I don’t wanna be right”. Furthermore, if someone is in emotional disarray, ain’t no body thinking of consequences/trouble at the time. Emotions mix with rationality like Sammy Sosa mixes with melanin.
@Cheekie,
‘Junk food makes folks wanna sing, “If lovin’ you is wrong, I don’t wanna be right”. ‘
Thanks a lot, Cheeks! I just literally laughed out loud at this in front of my CFO.
@Cheekie,
lmao @ Emotions mix with rationality like Sammy Sosa mixes with melanin.
this is SO true!!!! besides, junk food totally engages the dopamine pleasure pathway!!!
@Cheekie,
I love me some carrot sticks, but when it comes to pure bliss:
Peach cobbler > carrot sticks
personally, i prefer orgasms to peach cobbler, but to each their own
@The Champ,
U emotionally binge on orgasms? Like, you EAT them? Hush up, Champers.
@HabitualLineCrossa,
pancakes and mashed potatoes with butter and gravy are a little more comforting.
@jana.love,
This comment made me hungry. I haven’t been to Denny’s in a hot minute.
@jana.love, this sounds like a subplot on I want to work for diddy 2 with the really nice fat dude leading the charge.
@Panama Jackson,
As much as I cant stand Ivory, that big dude is a real ho ass ninja for switching up on the strength of “other people did it, so Ima do it too”
@Me fail english?,
I know! Also, I can’t stand how his facial expression always looks like he’s a in a perpetual state of “piss-my-pants-scared”.
@Cheekie,
I cant tell if he’s gay, slow or both but he’s really starting to piss me off. I haven’t seen this week’s episode yet but Ima need him to get the boot. Did I mention that I love Capricorn, Andre Harrell and that old Day 26 manager? They keep it way real. lol I especially love how they booted that light-eyed guy.
Unless it’s a requirement for their degree, Lincoln shouldn’t make their chunkier masses take a gym class. Doesn’t this school have…weightier matters to deal with?
How about a course entitled ‘Yes you pledged but that still doesn’t make you attractive so please gtfoh 101′?
@Ivyette,
lol @ ‘Yes you pledged but that still doesn’t make you attractive so please gtfoh 101′
i think a course simply entitled”so you’re greek… who cares? 101″. if i see one more set of where-2-or-3-are-gathered grown @$$ greeks party walk at a NON-greek function ima choke somebody. greeks know how to ruin a perfectly good dance space. not to mention all the cocky bastards walking around thinking their nalia should automate the throwing of rose pedals and panties at their feet is just ridic.
disclaimer: some of my best friends are greek
@Ivyette, Unless it’s a requirement for their degree, Lincoln shouldn’t make their chunkier masses take a gym class. Doesn’t this school have…weightier matters to deal with?
it kind of is but kind of isn’t a requirement for the degree. i think they weighed everybody when they got to school on some concentration camp non-sense back in 2006 and all folks over the threshold BMI were required to take an actual class as part of their graduation requirment. so it is a degree requirement for those folks who showed up freshman year over lincoln’s judgement of fatness.
dag, not just an hbcu, but division 2!
i think it could be appreciated if the methodology was somewhat different. but singling students out right as they’re on the verge of graduation to say oh yeah, you’re too chunky to function in society? that kinda overshadows the overall effort with a tinge of mean-spiritedness. besides, i thought gym was a universal reqirement? guess it was just my undergrad…
they’d do well to give both credit seminars and healthier living symposiums from the gate. Then they’d be giving students an actual advantage.
@bittersweet’s baby,
they’d do well to give both credit seminars and healthier living symposiums from the gate. Then they’d be giving students an actual advantage.
completely agree. why not try to nip the problem in the bud? require ALL students have exposure to courses relating to health issues (and please through in MENTAL health). besides, just becuz a person has a BMI under 30 does NOT make them healthy.
@The One & True GEM… of the Ocean,
completely agree. why not try to nip the problem in the bud? require ALL students have exposure to courses relating to health issues (and please through in MENTAL health). besides, just becuz a person has a BMI under 30 does NOT make them healthy.
truuuu that. and nicely put.
@The One & True GEM… of the Ocean,
typos, ugh!! should def read *THROW. smh. clearly grammar needs to be required for me NOW.
@bittersweet’s baby,
but singling students out right as they’re on the verge of graduation to say oh yeah, you’re too chunky to function in society?
to lincoln’s credit, the kids had four years to take this class. its not like they just sprung this up on them last month
@The Champ,
so they can take the class freshman year and have a bmi over 30 senior year and still graduate? that kinda defeats the purpose then…
@This Just In…,
Pretty much. Someone must be screwing the athletics/gym teacher. Tryna save the job by creating demand for a class that was probably low on enrollment. lol. Ok, ok maybe I should be in the tinfoil hat class.
@Me fail english?,
Tryna save the job by creating demand for a class that was probably low on enrollment.
That’s exactly what I thought when I first heard it on NPR…. and yes, I am known for my conspiracy theories so I am willingly signing up for the tinfoil class. Lol!
@This Just In…, yeah, if you’re gonna do this, you should weigh folks every year and then get a certificate.
i feel they need to do this with old people and driving licenses. every year after age 60 you need to take an ON-ROAD driving test again.
too many old fogies plowing thru outdoor markets and housing complexes these days.
@Panama Jackson,
I peeped in and saw that comment and had to say, Hot D@mmit I AGREE!!! These old muthasuckas get on my nerves driving 10 mph on these streets. WHY are they allowed to still drive????
@The Champ,
How about we have a requirement where all the underweight students spend three credit hours in the dining hall?
@Xave,
lol, i definitely would have been for that. getting all the low self-esteem anorexic chicks concentrated in one area would be like bagging fish in a barrel.
@The Champ,
lol. evil and genius!
@bittersweet’s baby,
Yeah, the fact that it’s phys ed is what makes the rationale so silly to me. Nutrition, I’m learning, isnt nearly as intuitive as a people (like me) assume it to be. You really do need an education on these things. Weight control is another thing I thought I had the basics down on but its WAY more complicated and personal than I’d thought. But physical activity? I’ma jump out on a limb here and say “Thanks Lincoln, we already knew that shet.” And with this info the skinny people are still skinny. And the big ones? Still big.
Most of your students went to HSs with a gym req already. So perhaps a fresh approach is in order. Let’s start with no more soft drinks in the vending machines.
@Me fail english?, Coca Cola called, they want you murdered.
@Panama Jackson,
lol. Probably wouldnt help anyway. NYC public schools had this req and we were still all terribly out of shape. Must’ve been those “home fries and salisbury steak gravy” (Gravy? We aint talkin bout the actual meat. Gravy?!)they were serving all the time. That and every HS is within a 7 minute walk to McDonald’s.
@Me fail english?,
some high schools have mcdonalds in them now
@Me fail english?,
THANK YOU! fix that weirdo extra processed mystery crap in the ‘teria and then holla at me. put some salad in there and some lean meat and make that my only choice…how ’bout that.
(sorry if i sound angry.)
@Me fail english?,
a healthy lifestyle, esp as it relates to nuitrition is def not intuitive, as youve mentioned. even knowing doesnt automatically set you up for success.
hell, i just went to a seminar last semester on obesity and the brain. your brain actually does NOT want you to lose weight, even if your 500lbs. it wants to maintain your body at its current weight. mind over matter is so much easier said than done, fa real.
@The One & True GEM… of the Ocean, but EVERY OTHER ORGAN yellin at you until you do.
I’m not sure how I feel about Lincoln’s policy. While it is true that obesity is out of control in this country, I don’t know that institutions of higher learning should be policing people’s BMI.
Let’s reflect on our undergrad days for a moment and remember how broke most of us were. Most hated the food in the dining hall and the food there was mildly nutritious anyway. When we did have a few bucks to buy food, we bought food that was cheap and would last. Fine examples include: Ramen noodles, various sugary cereals, pizza rolls, easy mac, assorted chef boy ar-dee “pastas”, slim jims, white bread, tang/ kool-aid mix, chips etc.. It has been stated many times that poor people do not always make the best food choices because healthy foods are pricier. Ex: Stroeham’s white breds $1.29 Stroeham’s whole wheat bread approx. $2.89
I don’t know that students should have their degree withheld because their BMI is not up to par. Just make sure the plump people clear their tuition checks in the beginning of the semester…just in case.
* thats was wrong
@Satya,
I don’t know that institutions of higher learning should be policing people’s BMI.
do you think a university has a duty to try and graduate healthy alums?
@The Champ, i think that’s a slippery slope b/c if BMI or say, weight, is your only indicator, you’re failing a large part of your population. if you’re going to police weight, you need to police mental health too. and substance abuse…all that stuff can kill you.
oh yeah, and you need to police PON – presence of ninjas…seems like college students stay getting shot these days, especially with connections to the AUC in Atlanta.
@Panama Jackson,
CO-SIGN! I go to school in miami and there’s been reports of gun/knifepoint robberies in the mornings, one friend of mine got her dorm apt broken into 3 different times, and a neighbor was followed by 3 ninjas trying to get at her. And when she denied their advances? Tried to muscle their way into the gate. The time? 3 in the afternoon, smfh.
I used the number 3 a lot, didn’t I?
@Panama Jackson,
if you’re going to police weight, you need to police mental health too. and substance abuse…all that stuff can kill you
i agree. i guess you gotta start somewhere though
I’m wondering if Lincoln has a PE requirement at all? At MIT we had a PE requirement to fulfill over the course of our 4 years. We also had a swim requirement, which meant we had to prove we could swim a certain distance by taking an exam at the pool, and if we failed the test then we had to take a swim class (counted towards the PE requirement). The swim requirement (I think) was instituted because a student or alum drowned decades ago and they didn’t want MIT alumni drowning (I heard it was his parents who asked the school to do this? who knows this could all be a legend). I know, odd but somehow sounds related to this whole lincoln incident. Either way, seems like if everyone had to do a PE requirement, nobody would care if your class was walking/nutrition, or fencing.
BTW, I avoided fulfilling my swim AND PE requirements by faking an injury. Okay, it wasn’t faked, but it sounds better to say I did! I learned how to swim when I was 5 yrs old anyway.
@Liz,
how much money did the MIT people pay you to name drop their name in your comment? $275? $400? 60 bucks?
@The Champ, quit hatin!!!!
@Liz, we also had a PE requirement at Morehouse. In fact, we had to take 2 PEs in order to graduate.
Now, depending on what class you took, it was a total farce. I took tennis one semester, swear to goodness, we only met 3 times. The entire semester. First day…then the teacher kept not showing up then showed up like…midterm today, hit the courts. most of us had never played tennis before so we sucked major. but it’s pass fail.
then she showed up for the final and was like, play venus and serena and who ever wins passes.
btw, that didnt happen but we all passed anyway.
yay Morehouse PE department.
@Panama Jackson, yeah our PE classes were kinda hokey. I wanted to take pistol but it was so hard to get a placement. Still, if Lincoln has a Pe requirement, this doesn’t seem like such a farfetched request. if they don’t then they’re just being jerks.
…because a one-credit gym class is really going to change lives. C’mon Lincoln University administrators. Seems like they missed the “just because I have a few letters behind my name, don’t mean I have common sense: seminar.” Everyone needs exercise, even people with an underweight BMI. Not only do we need exercise, we need to be fueling our bodies with healthy food, not junk which probably isn’t part of the curriculum. If Lincoln really wanted to help people have a better quality of life, maybe they should offer free or extremely reduced access to a fitness center, healthy eating habits classes, fitness classes, etc. etc…have resources easily available for people that have made the choice to have that lifestyle. If they don’t want it, nothing anyone can do will change them. I learned that in the “you can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink: 101″ class.
@MzKang,
LOL @ Seems like they missed the “just because I have a few letters behind my name, don’t mean I have common sense: seminar.”
@MzKang,
Haha. These class names are funny.
@MzKang,
exactly! i doubt a one credit PE class will help much when your diet consists of $5 hot-n-ready pizzas, pulled-pork sammiches with extra pork, diet sunny d, and imitation gruel.
@SouthernCharm, hell, after eating that, that one hour PE class might kill you. it takes a lot of work to work those toxins out of your system. thats why the big folks were always stopping laying down and rolling around the track.
or was that just at my school.
no shots were fired in the writing of this comment.
@Panama Jackson,
after eating that, that one hour PE class might kill you.
lol, i was thinking the same thing. like, you might literally die right there if you tried to run longer than 10 feet after eating that
@Panama Jackson,
“thats why the big folks were always stopping laying down and rolling around the track.”
This image has me dying laughing.
this is ridiculous. obesity is so much more complicated than this pseudo-solution, they really need to look into a much more holisitic healthy programme and NOT make anything last-minute compulsary! first morehouse with the dress code, now this! they all need to stop.
@superwoman,
you’re throwing too many big words out there, and i’m taking them as a sign of disrespect
@The Champ, LOL!! Watch yo mouf!! LOL!!
@The Champ, You ever heard of Rollin 20′s, nigga? Since I was sixteen, nigga, I’m saying, “frosty.” You know what I’m saying? “Spoon”, n*gga. We f*cked dwarves in the ass!
@Panama Jackson,
i swear, this scene makes me laugh out loud every time i see it. i dont think it would ever get old
@The Champ, Why you always tellin me to go fcuk a goat man??!!!
@HabitualLineCrossa,
she was a ho… for sho’.
uh its bull.. 1. 1 class isnt going to do shyt. 2 BMI is a bull shyt indicator, and lastly high blood pressure, high cholesterol, just overall bad diets are killing mofo’s at an alarming rate why not make all the students take the course instead of stigmatizing the larger students(well even more than they already are).. also why not have a comprehensive health and fitness program available to all students instead…. Aerobics, walking, free nutrition counseling, healty alternatives in the cafe?
Is this course tuition free? so on top of that I gotta pay for this bullshyt too? Mayne…AINT NO WAY…LOL
@shay_d_lady,
off topic of your post, but you — oh shay-d one — should def teach a course in “how to have outrageously wild unbelievable experiences… and live to tell about them 401″
@The One & True GEM… of the Ocean,
lol, or “embellishment 201″
@The Champ, awww champ dont be jealous…..LOL
meanwhile.. I really do think I shall start a blog…this week sometime….
@shay_d_lady,
i agree, you definitely should, and it definitely should be nothing but old stories and sh*t.
@shay_d_lady,
PLEASE DO!!
I will buy it! Oh wait you said blog not book……well I will read it!
um……first of all, i do agree with the statement that gives the reasoning behind the policy. but i don’t think it’s right to single out the students who have a particular BMI. and is this qualificiation being sprung on graduating seniors now!? because i’d be mad as hell if i’d been thick and chunky all 4 years and then 2 weeks before i schedule my last semester’s classes, some fool tells me about a da*n new requirement.
i think maybe schools could add some type of credit requirement to its core curriculum for all incoming students. i don’t think 1 credit class of phys ed would have much benefit in the long run, but maybe instead of physical ed. it could be a class that teaches the basics of nutrition and the importance of a healthy lifestyle in general. it’s definitely important for young folks to learn those things, but it’s just embarassing and ineffective to point people out by what they currently weigh. what about the students who have a high metabolism at 21, but eat junk and don’t exercise? they’re at risk just like the other students. or, what about the ones with a BMI of 29? oh, that’s cool, i guess. no…..i think the people at lincoln university need to go back to the drawing board with this one.
@charli skipper,
“and is this qualificiation being sprung on graduating seniors now!? because i’d be mad as hell if i’d been thick and chunky all 4 years and then 2 weeks before i schedule my last semester’s classes, some fool tells me about a da*n new requirement.”
like i stated upthread, theyve had 4 years to take one of those classes. the policy was instituted in 2006
They ought to be ashamed of themselves. There’s racism, then sexism, now “weight-ism”? Granted, everyone in the world is not a perfect size 6 (for women) or 34/38 (for men), but to be forced to take a class that pertains specifically to your person BECAUSE you don’t fit into certain a BMI range is not only ridiculous, but grounds for a huge lawsuit.
But how, pray tell, does this topic fit into the relationship category, Champale? Just askin. And I don’t wanna hear no “pray tell deez”, LOL!
@RedBeanzNRice on a Diet,
But how, pray tell, does this topic fit into the relationship category, Champale?
why is the sky blue? why is water wet? why did judas rat the romans while Jesus slept?
@The Champ,
*sighs*
@RedBeanzNRice on a Diet, But how, pray tell, does this topic fit into the relationship category, Champale?
why won’t you let him be great?
@Panama Jackson,
Man, gtfohwtbs. Champale IS great, always has been, always will be.
i cant even allow myself to go in on the tremendously douche-ish-ness of lincolns grad requirements concerning weight. all i can do is SMH, WTF, GTFOOH, LOL, and o_O this whole BMI BS.
as for other classes that would benefit graduating seniors i agree on the “its a recession, which means that your sh*tty ass degree is even more worthless now: 501″ Champikins mentioned (great idea by the way!). altho id title it “learning to optimize ur DEEZ in deez TETs.”</b
just for fun (optional, if you will)…
also, going hand in hand w/ the above mentioned, there should be “seminar in stripping to pay ur
tuitionbills/student loans/groceries”. you get a good workout AND a skill to helpout in this economic crisis.“birdwalking w/ the panamanian jackson
53″ — to learn how to be completely random and all over the place yet still capable of making interesting and witty social commentary. might just land you a gig at http://www.guyspeak.com and who couldnt use the extra $$?“making the most of breakfast 101″ — while mastering the meaning of eating toast may not pay off financially, itll certainly can make your life better and worth living. just ask the Champy-one.
@The One & True GEM… of the Ocean,
all i can do is SMH, WTF, GTFOOH, LOL, and o_O this whole BMI BS.
this was clever and sh*t. good job, gemmie
@The Champ,
thanks champie. a compliment from you is a HUGE deal!
@The One & True GEM… of the Ocean,
“all i can do is SMH, WTF, GTFOOH, LOL, and o_O this whole BMI BS. ”
*snort*
All those acronyms kinda makes me want to change what BMI stands for since it is such bullish. Maybe:
BMI: Better Make Icecream
OR
BMI: Booty Means Idealism
@Cheekie,
i prefer “booty meat inspector”
@The Champ,
Hmm. Considered.
@The One & True GEM… of the Ocean, “birdwalking w/ the panamanian jackson 5 3″ — to learn how to be completely random and all over the place yet still capable of making interesting and witty social commentary. might just land you a gig at http://www.guyspeak.com and who couldnt use the extra $$?
its like you summed up my entire life in two sentences.
@Panama Jackson,
its what i do.
I echo the sentiments here. Are you telling me that Lincoln doesn’t have other things to worry about. I according to my BMI am overweight. I know that I’m not. And even if I was, no university is gonna tell me because they think I’m fat I have to take an extra class in order to graduate. This is a lawsuit waiting to happen. Or maybe Lincoln doesn’t want anymore students to enroll.
@Mini,
Or maybe Lincoln doesn’t want anymore students to enroll
lol, i think their board of directors had a bet with cheney’s board of directors to see who could piss off the most black people in a year
@Mini, And even if I was, no university is gonna tell me because they think I’m fat I have to take an extra class in order to graduate. This is a lawsuit waiting to happen.
not sure if you’re Black or not, but let’s just assume you are so i can make this statement: i love Black people. lol. we stay saying what we somebody AINT gon’ tell us to do. lol. i’ll bet that if you went to a school where it was a requirement, you’d have taken the class just to graduate AND THEN raise hell about it. or perhaps silent protest, kind of like Red and Debo. sure you’d go to class, but you wouldn’t be happy about it.
This University is facing a huge EPIC FAIL in the future. You know why? Because you cannot MAKE people try to become healthy! It is a personal decision one makes. Good job, Lincoln, on ostracizing the fluffy folks, as if we don’t get it enough! They should do what my school, U of MN did, open a new rec center, have classes and give credit to the students that participate.
I’m quick to admit it, I’m a big girl but I’m working on that now. I’m down about 40 pounds since April and still counting. But that’s because I wanted to do it and not because someone told me I need to or tried to force me to. I had to get a dose of “act right” in my mind to go forth and do this.
Every person that has a weight issue has their point to when they’re good and ready to do it. It’s getting gotdamn annoying when people are crowing at you to lose weight. And I SO wanna strangle the skinny folks that say “well if you just stop eating.”
I even had a woman say to me, while I’m in the gym ON the exercise bike sweating like a hebrew slave, “You’re so pretty, you could stand to lose a few pounds.”
I looked at her (a 2520) and said, “WTF do I look like I’m here for? A fashion show?!” It took every ounce of my strength to not beat this chick down with my 72 oz water barrel!
Some people!
@Jade (not a prOn) Star,
This University is facing a huge EPIC FAIL in the future. You know why? Because you cannot MAKE people try to become healthy!
so, you don’t think universities have an obligation to promote and encourage healthy living?
@The Champ, see, dearest Champ, when you put it like that it sounds like they’re doing a social good. the thing is, it’s a lame and ultimately non-fruitful attempt to combat a problem that was 22 years in the making for a lot of students. they’re not exacting change. they’re just placing a band-aid over an issue they can’t win…same with the morehouse thing.
if you want to truly promote and encourage healthy living, then you need to require everybody to take the same classes on nutrition and physical exercise.
not just folks you’ve deemed over a certain limit.
@Panama Jackson,
@The Champ, see, dearest Champ .
This was 64% gay.
@Jade (not a prOn) Star,
go ‘head and punch em in the mouth for talkin crap. folks need to get their minds right. i hate that. people used to say crap like that to my mom at church. just know that i’m not welcome at her church anymore.
I’m starting to see a trend
Moorehouse tells their students how to dress
U of Cali tells their students about an 32% increase in tuition
Lincoln tells their students that their to big to graduate
Did something happen over the summer??? Was there some big caucus where schools decided to make these decision at the expense of the students???
So lets get this straight: Lincoln U is going to withhold anybody of their degree that took them 3-4+ years of classes, training, and college experiences to earn because their BMI is over 30.
In the words of Ed Lover: C’mon Son!!! (Getfukouttaherewitthatbullsh*t)
But on positive side, I understand their direction for promoting students to be healthy. Althought, their solution is SOOOOOO Half-Ass its annoying. SMGDH
@Mr. Gundam,
I’m starting to see a trend
Moorehouse tells their students how to dress
U of Cali tells their students about an 32% increase in tuition
Lincoln tells their students that their to big to graduate
lol, i dont see much of a trend here. maybe i need to put on my reaching glasses
@The Champ,
lol. Depending on your perspective, you can draw a link between the two HBCUs legislating prejudice. But one of these things is not like the other…
I wonder which UC campus it is. This recession is a hoe (I miss overit
)
@Me fail english?, yeah, the hbcu thing could be a trend of administrators making decisions that they think students aren’t apt enough to make.
its hard being Black. not only do white folks think we slow, Black folks who hold our careers in their hands think the same too.
@Panama Jackson,
Well Dr. DeBoy thinks everyone is kinda slow talmbout “We can’t serve healthy food in the cafe. We’re in a rural area!!” Like you need street lamps to grow some apples.
@The Champ, I’m pointing out that these decisions doesn’t really benefit the student in whats really important: Their Education.
The trend is that these choices lean more towards appearance, credibility and bankroll. As Panama Jackson mention, its already hard enough.
Ask yourself champ, Who does this benefit more???? The students???
@Mr. Gundam, “Ask yourself champ, Who does this benefit more???? The students???”
Um…sure. Healthier students lead to happier lives…happier households… juss happy. And of course the schools are gonna make money from it…but isn’t that what its all about…a win/win? lol.
@HabitualLineCrossa,
But is the role of Higher Education Institution to provide happiness to their students? Isn’t that what churches and strip clubs are for?
Seriously though, a higher education institution primarily role is to provide intellectual knowledge to their students… It’s great if that knowledge can be translated into a better and happier life, but that’s definitely not the primary purpose of institutions of higher learning.
@Sula, churches are a place to make you feel bad about enjoying your life…and they have the audacity to make you donate money for that cause. Strip clubs on the other hand…you might have a point.
It not the primary purpose, thats why its one class versus multiple, or a forced minor LOL.
It’s a good initiative on some level.
They should also have a class on why going raw dawg leads to babies and STDs…
@Da Iceman,
They should also have a class on why going raw dawg leads to babies and STDs…
i think most schools already do. i mean, isnt that what the whole coed dorm life social experiment is trying to teach us?
Clearly this is a publicity grab for Lincoln to get their numbers up. If it were anything else, it would have been well-thought out as illustrated above. But, if I am wrong and Lincoln considers this well-thought out, it’s a reason not to send your kids to Lincoln if you want them to get a good education and have common sense. Listen, good nutrition and fitness information needs to be disseminated but not just to fat people. But what about smokers Lincoln? It’s okay to puff your life away? Or is smoking one of the methods taught in gym class to keep your weight down? Addiction? Mental health? This issue was cherry-picked by someone who has an issue just with weight and nothing else that is proven to affect morbidity.
On the real, our HBCU’s would do well to teach money management because a lot of us didn’t learn that at home (unfortunately).
On the play play: “All Black People Don’t Have to Own a Record Label, in fact, Buy Other Shit too”, “How to Live Your Life Out of the Closet” and “How to Pick a Sane Jump-off (if you must)”.
@Rapture,
But, if I am wrong and Lincoln considers this well-thought out, it’s a reason not to send your kids to Lincoln if you want them to get a good education and have common sense
lol, basically. the fact that they did think this sh*t out isn’t helping p’s hbcu stance out very much
@The Champ, Whoa there Nelly…I’m a Spelman grad so I’m all for HBCUs just not this foolishness at Lincoln LOL!
@The Champ, * hangs head in shame *
at least we got more bangin’ chicks.
I think it is a step in the right direction. Our folks need to be informed. But what are the requirements to pass? Do you have to lower your BMI? Lose weight? Fit into slimmer jean?
The entire University should get involved to help the campus popuulation. Starting from the cafeteria to the pe department. One class might be enough to initiate a change in some, but most likely one class will not be enough. Why not start with incoming freshmen? At least that way you’ll have 4yrs (maybe 6 for football players) to develop a healthy gradual change.
@Stustustudious,
Why not start with incoming freshmen?
they did.
@The Champ, starting to think that quite a few people didn’t actually even skim the article.
@Panama Jackson,
read an article….wheretheydothatat?
@Panama Jackson,
LOL. I certainly didnt. But now that I have, “Academic overcome”? Ima fight Lincoln for this.
As a graduation in 2006. I find this new mandate extremely hilarious. First off, if you go to the cafeteria or the takeout area next to it, you’ll notice not a single damn healthy thing on the menu. How silly is it for a school who’s healtiest meal choice is potato wedges from the KFC or some mystery dish that is supposedly vegetarian all made my students or the local crackheads (yes they are crackheads since I knew the people selling to them).
We do have a P.E. requirement but it’s basically a bird course that you just need to show up. You can’t really get a lower BMI by taking bowling or ballroom dancing. Sure their hearts are in the right place, but their heads are still up their arse. If they students need to lose weight or learn how to lower their BMI, the admin needs to learn how to not “lose” vital paperwork of students.
@D-weezy,
Sure their hearts are in the right place, but their heads are still up their arse.
this should have been the title of the post today
@D-weezy, i wish i could have taken a ballroom dancing class. that seems like it would have been wildly entertaining.
well, as long as its a cross-registration class with spelman. if it was morehouse only, we’d call it…morehouse.
Classes I would have liked to take:
“STFU: An Intro to Self-Preservation”
“Econ 203: Balling on a Budget: A Personal Finance Mgmt Seminar”
“Vintage Wine Tasting 101″ ( I feel left out at parties)
I’d like to see my co-workers role in the following:
“Intermediate Critical Thinking”
“Advanced Empathy and Humility”
From my past politics you’d think I’d have more of a problem with the Lincoln U. thing but I really only have a problem with it not being mandatory for all students. Skinny people get diabetes too
@Me fail english?,
“Econ 203: Balling on a Budget: A Personal Finance Mgmt Seminar”
i definitely could have used that class. sh*t, i still can
@Me fail english?,
“Econ 203: Balling on a Budget: A Personal Finance Mgmt Seminar”
Haha! Yes! I think this is a timely class. I bet that mofo would always be filled, every semester.
Maybe it could include an optional “Econ 203a: Stuntin’ w/ a Link Card” lab?
The idea that this is going to help you out in the long run is silly! It’s another way to get more money out of you. They should have students take this at the beginning of their academic careers and then there would’nt be so much fuss. This class does’nt mean we’ll all grow up to have bodies like Hallie Berry or D’angelo in his “How does it feel” video, what ever happen to just being yourself! PLEASE RESPOND TO MY POST VSB’S AND VSS’S
THANKS
@Mr. X,
They should have students take this at the beginning of their academic careers and then there would’nt be so much fuss
they did. its just that some students neglected to take it
@The Champ,
But technically, if a student doesn’t get thatbig until mid-spring semester of Senior year, it’s not like they had the requirement for all 4 years. They weren’t required to do it until last week when they did the weigh in.
@Mr. X,
You should’ve title this post “Go or No Go”. ( I watch too much of The Simpsons).
I definitely think this cheats the kids out of being able to take one more elective that they’d actually be interested in. I lovede being able to bounce around from major to major. From Pre-Med to Econ to Communications to Psychology to Marketing and a smattering of Quantitative Analytics I was all over the place, sampling all types of isht that my teenage brain hadnt been exposed to. Not to mention the stuff I didnt wanna major in, just get a lil taste (PoliSci, Organic Chem, Genetics, Italian, ComLit)Plus I was taking internships (I always had at least 2 jobs in undergrad. I’m half west indian
). I’d be pissed if I had to give up my Astronomy class in favor of “Track”.
@Me fail english?, you just wanted us to know that you took all those classes, didn’t you?
@Panama Jackson,
lOl. Nah, I just like making lists.
@Me fail english?,
“(I always had at least 2 jobs in undergrad. I’m half west indian ).”
You sure about that? Wouldn’t you need at least 4.5 jobs to qualify as a half west indian?
@Ivyette,
LMAO! You right.
Oh, what was I thinking…I left off some classes (inspired by the stupidity I see on Maury)…
Percentages: A Remedial Review
Reproduction 101: Keeping the Small Window from being a 24-7 Drive-thru Window or Installing
SpermBullet-Proof Protection.Reproduction 101: Trap Stars and the Idiots Who Love Them
Reproduction 102: How Genetics Really Work Dumb@$$ and Why a Child’s Appearance, Gender, Eye Color, Hair Color or Lack of Hair and Attractiveness or Lack Thereof is NOT akin to a DNA test.
@Rapture,
lol. This reminds me of some guy who denied the child was his because the baby was “too cute”. It turned out to be his.
@Me fail english?, My favorite was “it can’t be my baby, it looks Mexican and I’m Puerto Rican”. That one was also his LOL!
@Rapture,
LOL! Well those two are better than these fools who say crude stuff like “I only make boys”. I’m not a bio expert, but I coulda sworn that all men make x and y gametes. No?
@Me fail english?, Exactly! You may be no bio expert but you do realize that you are already infinitely more qualified than the Maury participants and the Lincoln people. Spring Semester?
Aight I can smell the hustle from here. Oh yeah Lincoln isn’t far from me. N E ways. I can hear the administration “buy another credit please”. while they like Champ said don’t provide any healthy alternative on campus. Almost sounds like umherikkoh’s prison system. But you ain’t hear that from me. And another thing, body builders are technically labeled as obese should they have to take the health class too? & what about people like me who have “big bones” Okay that was just funny. I think graduating seniors should take lane classes. Find what you fundamentally like get in that lane and stay there.
@WuDaMan,
Aight I can smell the hustle from here. Oh yeah Lincoln isn’t far from me. N E ways. I can hear the administration “buy another credit please”.
hmmm. good point. admin makes a little extra dough to help pay for caps and gowns and fully funded trips to popeyes and shit
Classes graduating seniors need: Personal finance 101. So many people’s parents didn’t teach them how to manage money, and now they’re struggling (at 26) to clean up their consumer debt loads. Unacceptable.
@WordSmith,
i definitely could have used a “how stay the f*ck away from those cats in front of the cafeteria giving away free t-shirts” class
I agree with the sentiments of everyone. There are quite a few things wrong with this policy and most have been mentioned. For instance, BMI is such an inaccurate measure of obesity. So since they have 4 years to complete the course, how then does the school know who needs to take it? Is there a section on the application form where one has to fill out their physical information? Is their a statement in your acceptance letter that states, “We are pleased to inform you that you have been accepted for the current academic year at Lincoln University. However, since you’re a lard arse we’re going to need you to take a non-credit gym class cause we want you to be healthy : ) ?What happens to those who enter their freshman year slim and trim and maybe within the next 4 years, their body changes and they get a little thicker? Secondly, I agree with shay_d_lady when she says that high cholesterol and high blood pressure (I’ll also add diabetes as another stated) are killing folks at ridiculous rates–regardless of size. My father was skinny and he unfortunately had high blood pressure and diabetes. Lastly, as Jade pointed out, living a healthy lifestyle is a choice. It cannot be forced upon a person. I understand the rationale behind these schools, but they’re taking the free will from the students. It’s my personal experience that once you start taking choices away from people, you don’t really get the results you wished for–even if folks comply cause they feel they have no choice. You’re basically sending the message of “You’re not good enough as you are, let us change you into what we want you to be.” And that’s a thing that plagues us too much as it is.
I think there should be more classes focusing on mental health. So I suggest a “How to tell when that chick (or guy) is just nucking futs.” I know it would have saved a lot of guys that I know cause for some reason, dudes love the crazies. A “Stop trying to make that dude your husband when you don’t even know what the hell that means or who the hell you are” class would definitely be in order. I kind of like The One and True Gem’s idea of the stripping to pay your tuition class. The proof is in the bennies of it–physical fitness and money. It’s a win! And it’s gender neutral too!
@Hershey’s Kiss, “I think there should be more classes focusing on mental health. So I suggest a “How to tell when that chick is just nucking futs.”” I know this one…ALL WOMEN ARE NUCKIN FUTS!!
RETREAT!!!
@HabitualLineCrossa, o___O what’chu mean all women are nuckin futs?!
*as I twitch uncontrollably on the left side while handling a butcher knife*
@Hershey’s Kiss,
I think there should be more classes focusing on mental health. So I suggest a “How to tell when that chick (or guy) is just nucking futs.” I know it would have saved a lot of guys that I know cause for some reason, dudes love the crazies. A “Stop trying to make that dude your husband when you don’t even know what the hell that means or who the hell you are” class would definitely be in order
why take a class for all of this when you can easily learn this on vsb?
@The Champ, ahh . . . so true. So how about a Go to VSB 101 class? Is that more to your liking?
GREAT TOPIC! YES!
I am 23….my previous roomate (19) just left my apt to start at Lincoln University in August of this year…..Ironically, my new/current roommate (22) is a Lincoln U. Alum.
From what they’ve both told me, the school health department puts laxative in the cafeteria lunch to promote weightloss. They ACTUALLY tell students this on the tour. To me, it seemed as bit outrageous. until other friends who went away to school confirmed the same bull malarkey!
From my standpoint [being a young thick chocolate woman with a newly hired personal trainer and pictures of Beyonce's non-existent waist to motivate me] I agree that something has to be done. My previous rommate was a bit overweight, 210lbs at only 5’4″, to be exact. We used to workout on the weekend together, runing Prospect Park. She didn’t mind the additional help in her food. However, when I initially heard about the drugs in the food, I thought it was insane because not everyone has slow metabolism. What was going to happen to the people whose bodies actually digest food properly? I feel that its intrusive. Rather than implement a mandatory class, they should create a challenge with a cash prize.; the more students that enter the larger the pool. Or Lincoln could have created some publicity around this, such as partnering with artists (aparently they can afford Fabolous and Nicki Minaj for Homecoming) to create a private party for the person who knocks the most points off their BMI by the end of the year, not semester.
Lincoln would NEVER do this because the institution of higher education is primarily focused on robbing from our youth and throwing them out into the world fat, with a drinking/smoking habbit and sexually repressed; not to mention jobless.
I digress.
@Jackie, Folks leaving college sexually repressed = LIFE FAIL.
@HabitualLineCrossa,
I know it seems farfetched but people in college just up their chances for catching STDs and still come out clueless!
ok im a have to chime in (partly cause this is my 3d sleepless night and we just did a series on women’s body issues on the ship)
in a country that where X% of women and a growing number of men have an unreal expectation of what their body should look like, and most of these folk now have other issues that does not help their cause I find it laughable that an institution of higher education thinks that by students submitting to one class will help their case.
On a personal note, I struggled with my weight (as 90% of women have) most of my life, only to find out while I was a senior in college that I had two things working against me. an under active thyroid and an elevated prolactin level. I will be on medication for the rest of my life, just to keep these two things in balance and my weight from ballooning, so no class could have helped me to lower my BMI. If we as a country really took this seriously we would do more to make sure our children had PE from day one and make sure that they ate nutritious meals in school and always had nutritious options through High School.
@Intellectual Hedonist, and completely revamp the FDA.
@HabitualLineCrossa,
completely revamp the FDA
Yes!
High-Fructose Corn Syrup killed health decades ago.
Was this class a graduation req. 4 years ago? Did these students know that this class was a req.? When I was in undergrad, if we didn’t meet our reqs., then we didn’t graduate. Isn’t that how it usually works? So, if this is somthing the students already knew about this(it’s just new to us, and fodder for the anti-HBCU people), then they need to get on the
exerciseball, and get those credits….My only issues with this is that it should be required of all students, along with a health/nutrition classes. All schools should have such courses as options for their students, HBCU & PWI…I’m sure several schools already have them. Also, if Lincoln is anything like other HBCUs, they need a complete overhaul of the types of food they serve on campus, including on campus restauranta, etc. Fried chicken Wednesdays are fine if you have healthier options available.
@N.I.A. naturally,
Was this class a graduation req. 4 years ago? Did these students know that this class was a req.? When I was in undergrad, if we didn’t meet our reqs., then we didn’t graduate. Isn’t that how it usually works
yea, yes, and yup
I have to agree with those that have already chimed in that this policy is so shortsighted and has little link to the people they are trying to help.
I am a large guy, it runs very heavily (pun intended) in my family. If you looked at my parents and grandparents, you would know that this particular train was heading to Endomorph city.
So, attaching this draconian policy to BMI with no thought to the possibility that weight fluctuation and metabolism MAY BE genetically determined is just plain dumb.
The ACLU is gonna have a field day with this one. Discriminating against larger people? Lincoln’s federal funding should be pulled for this garbage. That will learn ‘em.
@Soula Powa,
EndoMorph City- ilove you for this!
Oh jeez, I hear hit dogs hollering all over this post. I agree with the personal finance 101 requirement, and honestly I see no problem with the Phys Ed course. What they need to do is spruce it up to include nutrition, when/how to eat, lifestyle workout tips. Yes will students still be overweight sure, but at least you did something to help.
And LOL at the hypothetical, “if they were body builders will they be required to take the course too”. Because yes, all the overweight people in our community are body builders lmao.
@Dorian G.,
you never disappoint and sh*t
(yea, i know this comment is at least 76% gay)
Haha 101: Lincoln is just a bad place. – I’ve been to Lincoln, its in the middle of no where PA. Its depressing. Its saddening. The only place worst is Cheyney Univ
@Peysonic Temple,
….and at the rate that BOTH instituions charge for tutition it just proves how students are being robbed!
@Jackie,
Wait how much Lincoln and Cheyney charging heads?? Cuz its like 13th and 14th grade up there.
Ya know, my mama is always complaining about the number of years required of phys-ed to graduate from grammar school/high school. I actually agree with her that it’s telling that kids ain’t required to go to gym everyday like it was in her time. She went to school in Chicago and they had gym every single day. By the time I got to grammar school, it was maybe once or twice a week. And I had to do afterschool b-ball in order to keep active after they stopped having recess. Even in some high schools, the number of years required of gym have slipped from 4 to 2. So, I definitely support more physical activity for children and even adults.
However. I can’t fully back this due a few things:
1. Backing it with a faulty-arse formula such as the BMI index. Um, that index is as much as gospel as Donnie McClurkin’s heterosexuality.
2. Not taking into consideration that not all big folks are PHYSICALLY INACTIVE and/or UNHEALTHY. (another reason why BMI is bollocks)
3. Genetics may play a factor in people’s weight so equating something that is beyond a lot of people’s control to an effing math gen-ed class as a pre-req is shortsighted at best.
Anyhow.
I heard Harvard has a class based on “The Wire”. Dope as hell, no?
@Cheekie,
“I heard Harvard has a class based on “The Wire”. Dope as hell, no?”
Only if it gets people to stop asking me if that’s what Baltimore is really like whenever somebody mentions the show.
@P.,
lol
Hmm. You might have a blessing and curse situation on your hands. Depends on who (by “who”, I mean, “someone with half a brain” vs. “someone who believes everything they see on TV”) is watching it.
@P., um, i been to Baltimore. The Wire is accurate as hell. even dated a chick who lived in the projects (unbeknownst to me until i took her home one night) and i was like, damn, i’ve lived in the hood in a few cities but i aint never felt like i do right now.
lol.
shots.fired.
@Panama Jackson,
Word. I was in Baltimore briefly on like three separate visits. As soon as we pulled into the bus station shet just felt wrong. I’ve caught the Peter Pan to a lot of cities on the Eastern seaboard. And all the bus stations look pretty seedy, but..DAMN. I got off that bus feelin like Tupac. Just mad as hell for no reason.
@Me fail english?, yeah, Baltimore is….questionable. and this is coming from a Newark area girl.
@Me fail english?, “Word. I was in Baltimore briefly on like three separate visits. As soon as we pulled into the bus station shet just felt wrong. I’ve caught the Peter Pan to a lot of cities on the Eastern seaboard. And all the bus stations look pretty seedy, but..DAMN. I got off that bus feelin like Tupac. Just mad as hell for no reason.”
You are DAMN right about that one. I took the bolt bus from NYC to Greenbelt, Maryland stopping in all kindsa f-d up areas. I’m looking at this sh!t like so THIS is the building they was hiding the bodies in. Reminded me of detroit . . . at least they used metal to shutter in the buildings.
@Panama Jackson,
Ay, I never said Baltimore wasn’t as f*cked up as The Wire portrays it to be, I just said I wish people would stop asking me that sh*t.
@Cheekie,
“Not taking into consideration that not all big folks are PHYSICALLY INACTIVE and/or UNHEALTHY. (another reason why BMI is bollocks)”
Excellent point Cheekie one. When people say “obese” on the BMI it’s not what most people consider “obese” to the naked eye. It’s just plain overweight. And vice versa. My mom is around 5’2″ or 5’3″ and weighs something like 112 lbs. I think according to the BMI she’s “normal”. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, there’s no accounting for the fact that most of her weight is in her chest and she’s probably underweight (IMO, maybe cause Im black
). She’s not sickly or anything, it’s just genetic. No matter how many babies she pops out and how much she eats, if it wasnt for being top heavy she’d be considered “underweight”.
@Cheekie,
I heard Harvard has a class based on “The Wire”. Dope as hell, no?
i’m actually mad that they didnt ask me to teach it
we had to take a gym class to graduate. it could have been dance, swimming, weight lifting, etc. that was everyone. i’m not against this stance but i think it should be required of ALL students. BMI is not the only indicator of good health. there are plenty of thin people who have terrible eating habits and drink and smoke. why aren’t they required to take a gym course or change their lifestyle?
@Tunde,
why aren’t they required to take a gym course or change their lifestyle?
because
that policy’s f*cking gay.
how about they stop giving freshman students meal plans with like 250 meals per semester. thats a lot of f*cking food.. on top of that college caf’s have so much garbage – pizza, burgers, wings, pasta bars, fries, etc. how about they start serving only healthy or organic food. how about they take away the little “convenience stores” (or inconvenience stores as i call them) where you can use your meal plan/flex dollars to buy candy and ramen noodles and saltine crackers and sh*t (i remember when i was in school, you could even use your flex dollars at dominoes pizza). you can’t set people up to fail and then penalize them for failing. c’mon now. i gained mad weight when i went to college and i partially blame it on that. you can’t surround people with endless bad food choices which in their mind is basically free since its already paid for as part of their room and board and expect them to always make the best judgement.
@BKSweetheart,
how about they stop giving freshman students meal plans with like 250 meals per semester. thats a lot of f*cking food..
for who? i mean, for an 120 day semester, that averages out to two meals per day.
@The Champ,
I was thinking the same but didnt wanna sound greedy.
That stingy ass meal plan is the reason I was either losing weight while living on campus or broke buying groceries one I got a real kitchen.
@Me fail english?, @The Champ – it sounds like alot but trust me when I was in school, no one could use that many blocks. Who goes to the caf twice in one day? Especially on the weekends. But us freshies were forced to take that meal plan instead of one with less blocks and more flex dollars. We would all have mad blocks left over at the end, luckily we were able to use them to buy groceries and sh*t. Point is I blame that for me gaining like a freshman 40 and being all depressed and suicidal and sh*t (dead serious – I’ve since lost the weight though FYI
) They surround with garbage and only enable you by giving you that many meals. They’re enablers I tell you!!
Although their approach is wrong, something should be done. Folks need to get it together, I am sick and tired of seeing people overweight and hearing them huff n puff like the big bad wolf after 2 steps. I graduated from Howard which required all students to take 4 PE classes (and for some majors, that included swimming). Real talk, those one-credit classes, weren’t easy either.
@Bison Love,
Just curious, which majors had to swim?
@Me fail english?,
Almost all of the College of Arts & Sciences..it was hilarious. You’d have to doggy paddle and sing the school alma mater for like 15 minutes straight.
@Bison Love, I am sick and tired of seeing people overweight and hearing them huff n puff like the big bad wolf after 2 steps.
another winner for the “i don’t do politically correct” award.
@Panama Jackson, political correctness is for girls.
@Bison Love,
welcome and sh*t (i think)
@The Champ,
Thanks, I visit the site all the time but I’ve commented.
For classes:
“No for real they will cut that sh*t” Paying your bills on time 301
“They won’t let me rent/lease/etc” Keeping up with your credit score 101
“Skinny jeans are not appropriate and neither are short skirts and rings on every finger” How to dress for an interview remedial course
“Leave no paper trail Tiger, bad boys move in silence and violence” How to properly creep on your spouse/S.O./etc. remedial edition
“A trapstar is not a meaningful long term employment prospect” Making it through this economy 201
“Jawn/Jon’t is not appropriate here, nahmean” The delicate art of codeswitching 101.
“There are lots of black (wo)men with degrees and no children” The art of humility 101.
@Stank-0, “A trapstar is not a meaningful long term employment prospect” Making it through this economy 201
reminds me of the “you can’t sell dope forever” tees that were popular in Atlanta some years ago. then the recession hit and all the tshirts said, “dope prices are recession proof”
i got beef with the policy solely on execution grounds. it’s a ridiculous solution. now, the president is like, its a step in the right direction, which is a pun on so many levels, but really, what is a step if you dont have the rest of the bridge mapped out?
i think i have an issue in principle with schools trying to cover up problems with ridiculous attempts at solutions, especially ones that single out specific students. now, in this situation, these folks had 4 years to get themselves in “shape” but really, it doesnt account for all kinds of issues. hell, what about Samoans. them folks are just naturally big-boneded. and you know it be samoans at HBCUs. either there or at USC.
plus, if i pay long dough for school, and have paid my fees, you should give me my damn degree. i got a right to be fat.
classes needed:
Closing The Closet 101: Going from Skinny Jeans to clothes you can actually wear to work
Just Say No: Drugs are passe, do those; now its all about credit
The Good Years 476: realizing that chicks who are fine at graduation won’t necessarily be in 10 years and how to decide which one to latch onto
@Panama Jackson,
The Good Years 476: realizing that chicks who are fine at graduation won’t necessarily be in 10 years and how to decide which one to latch onto
this class should be taught in high schools as well
@Panama Jackson, “The Good Years 476: realizing that chicks who are fine at graduation won’t necessarily be in 10 years and how to decide which one to latch onto”
Its not what she looks like but whats inside that counts…
@HabitualLineCrossa, not until we’re 40.
@Panama Jackson, I tried… LOL
I’m pretty much in agreeance with what was mentioned above. As a student graduating in May (God-willing) I would be tight if I had to take some bs class to graduate, even if you gave me 20yrs to fill the requirement because I’m focused on taking all these REAL classes so I can get the fcuk outta here and stop paying you motherfcukers. Geez. And when your “vegetarian” meal looks like a wounded animal that needs to be put down and the sandwich lady is trying to eyefcuk me I’m skipping my happy ass over to the pizza line, dead ass. Now turn your attention to the class schedule:
Weed Dealing/Hair Braiding/Paper Writing 213: Perfecting Your Side Hustle
Yeah I know but send the money: Family Communication 102
Can I help you with that Professor?: Strategic Shonery 301
Signed, Sealed, Delivered: The art of forgery 348
@VeronicaCorningstoneD,
I would like to extend to you an invitation to the pants party.
for real? i have to hit up my cousin. she attends lincoln, and we run a little “curvy” on that side of the family. she might be graduating this year too…*dialing*
@Miss Patterson,
how can you dial with one hand?
@The Champ, i can do a lot of things with one hand. see? *holding up middle finger*
@Miss Patterson,
*dap*
it’s crap. ain’t nobody payin’ a gazillion dollars in student loans or killing themselves to maintain a half a$$ed scholarship for someone to keep them from graduating because they eat really, really, REALLY well. it’s discriminatory and ignorant and you can dress it up however the hell ya feel, but it’s still crap and it stinks. this is not to say that i’m not acknowledging that obesity is a huge issue in the black community. shite, it’s a huge issue all across and up and thru the damn rainbow. i have to commend the university for attempting to contribute to the correction of this issue with its students–that’s cool. really it is. at the same time, you don’t tell a grown person who is paying to get a degree from your school to exercise or he can’t graduate!! i’ll be damned. i wish a mthrckufr would!!
Guys.
Seriously.
-_-
Look at the BMI chart.
Find the weight entry for your height if your BMI was 30.
http://www.whathealth.com/bmi/chart-imperial.html
Chicks have no problem passing this simple requirement. Maybe big boned or muscular dudes might have to run a few laps, but even that’s unlikely if Lincoln U consults the gender-specific charts or the BMI charts for athletes.
BMI of 25 is overweight.
BMI of 30 is obese.
Lincoln U students with BMI of 30+ have bigger worries than this graduation requirement.
heh heh
They have bigger fish to fry.
***snickering***
Heck, diabetes may have already claimed a coupla limbs.
@inHIcotton,
Ok, ok. Those jokes at the end were mean! But I see what you’re saying. 5’3″ and 170 lbs is a significant amount of extra weight. Seems like even with a “special condition” (that only a small percentage of the student body will probably have) you can take it below 170.
I’d still be pissed that I had to give up a good elective for gym
@Me fail english?, Why you still being all selfish and all. You’ll feel better having lost a couple pounds, you’ll live longer so your family will be thankful, and the fellas will enjoy watching you do the cardio…everybody wins.
@inHIcotton,
In reference to the following:
They have bigger fish to fry.
***snickering***
Heck, diabetes may have already claimed a coupla limbs.
They never should have gave you Ninjas the internet!
Foremost, the majority of people who are obese on campus are the staff and personnel. With so many dense fatties on campus, you would figure their salaries would be minute. Wrong.
With the cost of tuition/housing/books and life in general, I wonder how any of these motherf*ckers, rather my peers, are able to over eat?
Tuition at my school has increased from $14,000 in 2005 to $21,000 in 2009. I transfered in last year, when tuition was $19,000.
Courses I wish I could’ve taken:
Student Accounts 101: Since these motherf*ckers will stop at nothing to bring you down, you might as well take your little fake a** work study paycheck and head to the bar with your friends.
Financial Aid 500234abc (available online): Yes, $40,000 a year is a lot, and how not to punch your F.A. advisor when he/she acts like it isn’t.
Summer Semester 101: How to explain to dumb b*tches that if you didn’t have the $40,000 for the Fall and Spring Semesters, then you sure as hell ain’t got it now. (Note: Must pass Financial Aid 500234abc with full Fall and Spring semester balances paid in full).
That is all.
They (University policy) hella foul for that.
Classes all College Students should take:
1. Sifting through the Bullsh*t 101: self-explanatory
2. Cover Your Ass 220: A study of making copies of all your sh*t, copies of assignments (work and academic completed) and being a savage about follow up so your paperwork don’t come up missing when it’s time to graduate, get your financial aid money, annual performance review etc.
3. Hustlenomics 420: These dollars ain’t making sense
cents, but I gotta live anyway. With special emphasis on how to get free sh*t.4. The Joy of Ramen 2: Cooking class for your college budget.
5. Gettin’ Over 350: Naw, I didn’t do the reading, but I’m finsta’ have class participation by making valid points off what I did read. (Associated with Hustlenomics, you didn’t read cause you got 50/11 jobs)
6. Each One Teach One 900: Hella Active on campus support group. Do you find you’re doing more campus and community service than class work?