- rapper. record-setter. roach
from the first black president and the first black head football coach at mississippi state university (sylvester croom. this was a really, really big deal when it happened, btw) to the first black woman to win an oscar for best actress and the first black roach to simultaneously impregnate two mulatto sex symbols, the past decade was filled with numerous black firsts many of us thought we’d never see.
despite this continuous progress, there remains more than a few black firsts i doubt we’ll seeing anytime soon. here’s two of them.
openly gay black male in the NBA or NFL
while former nba-er john amaechi came out after his playing days were over and kobe bryant remains a bitch, we’ll see sarah palin on the cover of black tail before we see an openly gay black male pro athlete.
now, i’m sure that there are many currently gay or bisexual black athletes on NBA and NFL rosters. as far as i know, catching punts and catching penises aren’t mutually exclusive. actually, considering the sheer number of men in each league, i’d be more surprised if there weren’t at least a dozen somewhat popular athletes with an extra spare in their tanks, and i’m positive that each of them have a teammate or three who are fully aware of their situation
but, when you combine the prevailing image of the hyperheterosexual black male with the fact that no other american industry capitalizes and depends more on the allure of the ultra-competitive alpha male than professional team sports, you can understand how an openly gay black man would be the complete antithesis of what many (if not most) professional sports fans and participants think sports are all about.
with the ostracization and threats of physical danger he’d probably face, a black male athlete would need balls the size of lincoln, nebraska to come out while he was still playing (and an actual college degree, because his playing days might be over), and i can’t see anyone making that decision
black blockbuster movie
although black actors and actresses have starred in numerous blockbusters, none of the megabucks movies will smith or zoe saldana or denzel washington have been in would qualify as “black movies“…just movies that happened to star will smith or zoe saldana or denzel washington. as much as we –and, in this case “we” means “not me”-- love and support the tyler perry flicks, a 60 million gross (box office + sales made in barbershops and bodegas) aint sh*t compared to 600.
there are myriad reasons for this (ie: black movies don’t seem to translate well overseas, black movies usually don’t have megabucks marketing campaigns behind them, the IMAX people told hollywood not to produce any multi-million dollar “black” action or science fiction flicks because they dont want n*ggas shooting at those expensive ass screens, etc) but the fact remains that a black movie would have to overcome too many obstacles to reach blockbuster status, and, unless hype williams finally releases belly 2: sincere in africa, i can’t see it happening.
anyway, people of vsb: do you think we’ll see an openly gay black male professional athlete or a black blockbuster in our lifetimes? if so, which do you think would happen first?
also, are their any other black “firsts” we probably won’t see anytime soon?
the carpet is yours
—the champ
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@kamakula,
ah yes. taking it back to the kamakula/luvvie first battles from the fall of 2008. those were some epic contests (until liz took her ball and went home)
We will see the 1st gay athlete 1st. There is only a matter of time before mediatakeout gets photographic proof of Chris Bosh or Randy Foye getting tossed up by some random male stripper.
@Legendary Dash,
to be perfectly honest, i’m surprised that hasn’t happened already. or, maybe they have some pics and are just blackmailing for bandwidth fees
@The Champ, same here. with all the rumors floating out there about artists you know some athletes are soulpolin’. thing is maybe the less than famous ones are the ones that are getting caught and who cares. hell, in DC they STILL ain’t put javaris crittenton on TV. it’s all about Gilbert and javaris went to court too. his ass? got a little snippet written up in the weather section.
@Panama Jackson,
true. i doubt many of the gossip blogs would care if carey davis (the fourth string running back on the steelers) came out the closet
@The Champ, LOL!! Yeah the fourth string folks are barely making the salary of a mid level professional
@bksweetheart,
“Yeah the fourth string folks are barely making the salary of a mid level professional”
ummm…in what profession are mid-level professionals making 800g’s a year? lemme know so i can get back to school and get a degree in whatever field that is
@The Champ, Well according to foxsports.com carey davis makes $375K. So I was a little off LOL…. but still not that much money for a pro-athlete. Especially considering rothlisberger makes 27 million!!
first of all, feels good to be back, hi ya’ll! *waving*
my vote goes to a black blockbuster and champ hit it on the head, no other american industry capitalizes and depends more on the allure of the black alpha male. Holiday Heart on the football field is not what’s poppin for middle America.
although i will say i will be shocked if i see a black blackbuster, lol.
@overit,
“champ hit it on the head”
thats what she said.
@The Champ, you need to step your game up, your responses are becoming predictable.
@michaboa,
yeah, that tends to happen after reading and responding to approximately 250-800 comments a day for almost two years straight
**btw, predict deez**
@The Champ, **btw, predict deez**
predicted- smh
@Yeah…SO?!,
lol, weren’t you the one who predicted it the last time. That was such an awesome comment. And I don’t even like saying awesome, so it was effing awesome.
@Cheekie, thank you, thank you *curtsy*- lol
You know I couldn’t let this one slide… When will he learn?
Slide/learn/know/let/curtsy/etc deez
@michaboa,
Weren’t they always? lol I mean, him saying “[insert anything, and I mean anything here] deez” anything someone roasts him ain’t all that shocking. I thought it was his schtick.
@Cheekie, lol i know but im salty because i didnt get my “welcome and shit”
@michaboa,
you didn’t?
well, welcome and sh*t.
and salt deez
@overit,
“feels good to be back, hi ya’ll! *waving*”
Oh, meant to do this:
*waves back @ overit* Hey, homie!
How about there won’t be a first all black sitcom show that reaches the level of FRIENDS, SEINFELD, or idk…any other #1 rated 30 minute show. Although I like the TP movies, I absolutely abhor those 2 shows he has.
@JumpOnIt,
Missed The Cosby Show era, huh?
@Maximillian,
Aww Shite! You’re right. Cosy AND Fresh Prince. Damn tv just ain’t what it used to be.
@JumpOnIt, if anything, Will Smith is the closest shot we probalby have to getting some shit all the way to the top Black wise now a days. i mean he’s been UBER successful in everything he’s done.
hell, he might actually end up as the president. lol. imagine that. though he’ll have to give up that scientology mess.
@Panama Jackson,
“i mean he’s been UBER successful in everything he’s done.”
Yeah, that mofo was a success genius. Anyone who can cause “Wild Wild West” to make as much money as it did, is the second coming.
ETA:
I didn’t mean to say “was”. That was weird…and creepy.
*backing away from comment*
@Maximillian,
i think a different world had pretty good ratings as well (due to the cosby lead in)
I am thinking a black blockbuster is more popular.
I think if they could manage a budget for a comic book joint… its possible…a black romantic comedy? probably not so much and an openly gay nba or nfl player
hell to the naw.
Black men are the most homophobic creatures on the planet (for the most part) them mofos will bring back jim crow laws for they share a locker room with a gay man….
and your right, Kobe is still a biatch
@shay-d-lady,
“I think if they could manage a budget for a comic book joint…a black romantic comedy”
I do think this would work, but many comics are whiter than prime time television. I’d love to see a Black Panther movie with real Africans or a movie about Storm sans Halle. As for the romantic comedy, do the 2520s as whole know about Love Jones, or Hav Plenty?
@Wuyoung Agent of M.E.,
The Black Panther has never been a really good comic book, and I doubt he is popular or interesting enough to carry his own film. He has been unable to maintain his own series. A reboot of Blade in this vampire obsessed world could do the trick.
@Legendary Dash, You are correct about BP not being that popular. I knew of the character but never read his books until he got hitched to Storm. Storm is probably the only black character that the general public may even recognize. Blade would work.
@Wuyoung Agent of M.E.,
His character is a great idea, but outside of a brief run in the early 90s was not pulled off run as a stand alone character. If Storm had her own movie, he could be introduced, or if Marvel still had control over The Fantastic Four, his original origin could be used. There is also potential to use him in Iron Man and Avengers films. Especially Iron Man, as the primacy of Wakandan technology could be used as a reason for him to come into contact with Tony Stark. *Removes blerd hat.*
@Legendary Dash,
I’m not familiar with the Black Panther (character). Similarly, I think it would be a though sell to the majority who likely would immediately think of the Black Panther Party as I did from reading this. No Blackbuster accolades with that title.
@Caballeroso,
He predates the Black Panther party by a couple of months. The Black Panther leads a African nation that was never conquered by anyone. His country, Wakanda, is the most technologically advanced country in the world. He is a head of state, and put his country first, even if that means alienating other heroes. The main problem with him is that his powers left a lot to be desired which limited his popularity.
@Caballeroso, another thing to add about the Black Panther, he beat the Fantastic Four single-handedly
@Legendary Dash,
I love the idea of this comic (and shall research it)… but the way you describe it? No wonder it didn’t work… Lots of people including comic lovers (who can very easily be one of the most open-minded group of people regardless of color) might not be too comfortable with the idea of technologically super-advanced African contry… Off to e-bay to search for Black Panther.
p.s: is there any fanfiction for comics outside of Anime? I would love to add stories about Black Panther. Lol!
@Legendary Dash, True about BP. He would end up being a supporting character in another movie. I would like to see his pops beating up Steve Rogers during the 40′s in the Captain America movie.
@Caballeroso, He’s a combo of Batman and Iron Man w/o the creepiness, facist tendancies, and chemical adiction.
@Wuyoung Agent of M.E.,
When it was revealed that he joined The Avengers to spy on them, he became awesome in my eyes. He has done some cool things. He beat the hell out of Mephisto in like 30 seconds.
@Legendary Dash,
actually these last couple of years, the BLACK PANTHER has had a pretty successful run in the comic book world… Unfortunately he did just get put in a coma by DR. DOOM… wesley snipes was rumored to play him in a movie, but i guess we all know how that turned out.
btw, my first time to the site. totally diggs.
@Idubbs,
btw, my first time to the site. totally diggs.
Welcome and sh*t.
@Idubbs, welcome to the site! *hauls out welcome wagon*
@Wuyoung Agent of M.E., As for the romantic comedy, do the 2520s as whole know about Love Jones, or Hav Plenty?
even if they did, they probably couldn’t relate. hell, half of Black america can’t relate to love jones and its largely only uber popular b/c so many of us reading negroes are fake ass deep people anyway. and hav plenty? lol. yeah, until you get rid of chenoa maxwell aka the bad movie killer, NOBODY could take that mainstream.
there’s a reason she’s only been in moves with christopher scott-cherot, and i assume that reason is she has pictures of him boning a gay nba player.
@Panama Jackson, So your saying Chenoa Maxwell is like a black Jennifer Tilley? They both are still better at what they do than Monica Calhoun.
@Wuyoung Agent of M.E., not sure that’s true. chenoa maxwell is REALLY bad at what she does. she’s so bad she couldn’t even get into the Trois series. you know who did?
monica calhoun! and at least she made it into a movie seen by more than people with low expecations (the best man). most of us own that. people who own hav plenty and G are pretty much masochists.
@ Panama Jackson
“G”
Oh good gawd. I’m still upset with my sister for giving me this movie as gift. Bootleg version, to boot.
@Wuyoung Agent of M.E.,
monica calhoun will always have a place in my heart for her unexpected (and surprisingly un-flat) ass close-up shot in “the players club”
btw, what are the odds that jamie foxx is going to play a supporting role in a movie starring lisaraye ever again? a million to 1? a billion?
@Panama Jackson, I liked the Best Man when it was called the Big Chill. I stand corrected on my Monica Calhoun statement. I actually watched G and it is now on my list of movies that will make your life worse. It was bad, Black Spring Break Bad.
@shay-d-lady,
Black men are the most homophobic creatures on the planet
lol, i think ya’ll (black women) actually have us beat.
@The Champ,
That is so true. Even being pleasant to a gay guy in public is grounds to get you tagged DL and blackballed by sisters. A big chunk of homophobic behavior is actually posturing for women.
@Legendary Dash,
co to the muthaeffin sign.
Woman, Sexist and Homophobe Aren’t Mutually Exclusive
@Legendary Dash, I won’t lie… I do find it odd when a heterosexual male is cool with a not-so-heterosexual male… mostly tho(I’m guessing) b/c all the men that influenced me growing-up were very ALPHA-male and didn’t play dat “botty bwoy bizness”… Dem Jamaican men can be scary *shivers*
@Yeah…SO?!,
Even when dealing with family members, I make sure to survey the scene for women before he talks to me in public because I know that women will find me laughing it up with a nigga with lip gloss on to be suspect behavior.
@Legendary Dash, I’m telling you… it sucks, but guilt by association *shrugs*…not to mention it’s the DL isht we think about really, cuz with them mofos you NEVER KNOW- a beesh gotta protect her neck(so to speak) ya feel me?
@Legendary Dash,
Women actually have a lot of contradictory behaviors… cf. the woman who does not like other women conundrum… Blame patriarchy (see how I did that? Ha!
)
@The Champ,
But what about all the black women who have or want a gay male friend?
@Maximillian, sissy-gay men are okay but men who women can’t tell are gay because they’re flaming? red alert! it makes us (meaning them) feel very insecure about sleeping with a possibly bisexual man (see HIV and female friends NOT being jealous).
@Maximillian,
But what about all the black women who have or want a gay male friend?
that’s canceled out by the fact that even a hint that a black guy might be “gay-friendly” is enough to potentially put a permanent cramp his dating game.
black male homophobia didn’t make j.l. king a millionaire
@The Champ,
black male homophobia didn’t make j.l. king a millionaire
Bingo.
@The Champ, black male homophobia didn’t make j.l. king a millionaire
lol yes it did. you know why? because he listed it as one of the first signs of down low brothers. a lot of naive women looking for reasons to blame their lack of mandom….
women are not homophobic, they arent afraid of gay men, most women are afraid that their man might be gay, which is a different, although equally disturbing trend,.. but they dont have a problem with outwardly gay men.
Most black men are the opposite. Which is why their wont be an out the closet nfl or nba player fourth string or otherwise. Its not about whether media will accept them… their teammates wont..
@shay-d-lady,
“Black men are the most homophobic creatures on the planet (for the most part) them mofos will bring back jim crow laws for they share a locker room with a gay man….”
You’re right about this. My ultra-liberal 2520 friend from college asked me about this I gave her this answer: I told her it came from the fact that little black boys are always given that you have to be stronger and strive for a certain degree of manliness to make it in a white world set up to see you fail. No weaknesses are tolerated and being a homosexual is viewed as the ulitimate weakness. She had a look on her face like I showed her what was in the brief case from Pulp Fiction after that. That’s my opinion on a black man’s homophobia. Not to mention, the church (who created the don’t ask don’t tell policy), the homophobia of black women, and the homophobia of the rest society.
I could be completely wrong about that, but that’s my guess.
@Wuyoung Agent of M.E., Or you could be completely right because I completely agree with you. Well-written.
@Jara,
honestly, i think its a circle of homophobia that both black men and black women are a part of
@The Champ, I agree. A circle of “which came first: the chicken or the egg?” proportions. Fact: Most black children in U.S. are raised in a household with single black mothers. Where do we learn our first gender stereotypes? Where did the black mothers learn them from? Would we even be alive today if it weren’t for our black mothers finding our fathers who bought into the macho male stereotype sexy? Hmm…
@The Champ, gtfoh.
I agree with shay-d-lady that there is a distinct difference between homophobia and fear of the possibility that your guy might be bi or gay.
@Wuyoung Agent of M.E.,
“She had a look on her face like I showed her what was in the brief case from Pulp Fiction after that.”
*giggling*
@Wuyoung Agent of M.E.,
Someone took their smart pills this morning! Well said.
But it’s really sad overall though.
It’s even worst in African circles… I weep for my brothers. Le Sigh.
@shay-d-lady,
There teammates will accept them. John Amechi noted that a lot of his teammates knew he was gay. It is nearly impossible to spend as much time together as pro-athletes do and not know eachother’s sexuality.
@Legendary Dash, but there is a difference between keeping a “dont ask dont tell secret” and sharing a locker room with an openly gay man….i bet a lot of those guys would have jumped on the bandwagon of hate to assure that they were not associated with any “gayness”
@shay-d-lady,
“them mofos will bring back jim crow laws for they share a locker room with a gay man….”
Lmbo!!!
also you only got 2? did you write your post at the last minute champ? lol
@shay-d-lady,
“also you only got 2?”
thats what she didnt say
I’m going with 1st Black Blockbuster. We won’t be seeing it anytime soon because, well, it has to make money somehow. There could be a movie made in Africa talking about Mansa Musa and his travel to Mecca dispensing gold as he went. The movie could bring about the ceasefire to all conflicts on the continent and everything just because everybody wants to see it.
BUT it wouldn’t make any money because of mass bootlegging.
Others:
@MizzouLegend,
There could be a movie made in Africa talking about Mansa Musa and his travel to Mecca dispensing gold as he went. The movie could bring about the ceasefire to all conflicts on the continent and everything just because everybody wants to see it.
and by “everybody” you mean “the seven hebrew isrealites selling cans of root beer outside of east liberty kuts” right?
Black men forming a coalition to strongly discredit the ‘well hung’ myth.
@Superior motherload,
‘well hung’ myth.”
Grabs package and laughs heartily at this foolishness. Myth? HA!
@Superior motherload, Why would black men want to discredit this again?
@Yeah…SO?!, forgot the crowd participation question already?
here’s another one:
the first black openly male gay rapper to hit #1 on Billboard’s Hip-Hop chart. right up there with no openly gay male nba or nfl player.
@Jara, No I didn’t forget… I thought intially that it would be a list of things some black people actually WANTED… but whatever- keep the party going
I have one to add- the first black olympic diving gold medalist
@Yeah…SO?!,
the first black olympic diving gold medalist
Can happen sooner than you think…
@Yeah…SO?!,
Already been a black olympic speed skating gold medalist in Shani Davis…
@Sula, Really? I just thought with the whole black people being afraid of heights and water the odds were infinitely NOT in our favor *shrugs*
DG,
“Already been a black olympic speed skating gold medalist in Shani Davis…”
Yeah, I watched the Winter Olympics because of this mofo. It was so glorious.
Also, it introduced me to the weirdest sport ever: curling. I mean, seriously, who the f*ck came up with that hot mess??
Which, come to think of it, another addition: First Black curling gold medalist.
@ Cheekie,
” Which, come to think of it, another addition: First Black curling gold medalist.”
Curling is tooo wild!
@Cheekie and miss t-lee, I had to google it (I know I’m nosy) and I just don’t get it… something about sports that look like you would feel stupid while doin it just turns me off…
For those of you who have no clue what curling is and actually give a isht http://www.mindbites.com/lesson/1139-curling-101-an-introduction-to-the-sport
@Cheekie and miss t-lee, I had to google it(hate to be left out)… that isht looks stupid- and why dey gotta do splits again?
@Superior motherload,
lol, yeah. although i think we’ve covered basically every type of coalition possible, i doubt we’ll be seeing that one, ever.
Black “firsts” we won’t see…hmmm…
An episode of MaurySpringerCopsFirst48 without black people…
BET airing ANYTHING of significance…
An end to nursery rhyme “booty music”…
That long promised, never shot Marvin Gaye biopic…
A baptist church that allows you to NOT pay tithes…
A relevant, living civil rights leader…
(yeah, that last one is gonna hurt)
@Tenchi,
“A baptist church that allows you to NOT pay tithes…”
F*&^ing Building Fund!
@Tenchi,
An episode of MaurySpringerCopsFirst48 without black people…
i think i might be one of the only people in the country who’ve pulled a “cops” trifecta. i’ve had them drive past my house before, i’ve known at least one person who was arrested on that show, and my cousin (a cop in cincy) had his own 15 minute segment on the show a couple years ago
@Tenchi, That long promised, never shot Marvin Gaye biopic…
that’s a pun if i’ve EVER seen one…
@Panama Jackson,
I was hoping no one would notice…
Felt slightly dirty as I typed it…
@Tenchi,
You don’t watch B.E.T., do you?
@Monk,
What had happened was…
A couple of days ago I scanned and decided to stop…saw something called “Wacka Flocka Flame” and died inside…
@Tenchi,
A couple of days ago I scanned and decided to stop…saw something called “Wacka Flocka Flame” and died inside…
considering what just happened to him, would this be irony?
actually, nevermind. it wouldn’t be. still, its gotta be something
@The Champ,
Geez, now I gotta start doing news searches on every potential one hit wonder before I make snarky death related comments…
Had no idea…*Taylor Swift shrug*
@Tenchi,
“A couple of days ago I scanned and decided to stop…saw something called “Wacka Flocka Flame” and died inside…”
The first time I saw him was on MTV in the morning and he was doing some interview about getting shot on some Fiddy Cent “Ain’t this interesting even though we’ve heard this story 50-lem infinity times” type sh*t. My people, my people, is that the only thing we gotta interview about? *Florida Evans frown*
@Tenchi, BET aired significant programming prior to being sold by Bob Johnson. Of course, “significant” is a matter of taste. I happen to think Teen Summit and the Flip Wilson comedy with Gladys Knight as his wife and Jaleel White as their son was significant.
BET is too easy of a mark.
@Jara,
They paint the bullseye, I shoot the arrows…
@Jara,
Significance is relative I guess because in my opinion, they have had significant programming…even in recent years. The only thing is Black people don’t (watch or admit to watching) wanna give them their props when they do air things of significance. Also, let’s not forget that B.E.T. stands for Black ENTERTAINMENT Television, emphasis on the “E”.
By the way, check out the S.O.S. special on B.E.T..
@Monk,
I tend to agree with you. I think BET is the easy target for the Reading Negroes League… but as far as entertaining goes, I’ma think they do because they are still in business.
@Tenchi,
“A baptist church that allows you to NOT pay tithes…”
^ or how about a church being remodeled or improved from them finally using the donations for the “building fund”.
@Tenchi,
Every chuch I’ve been to allows you not to pay tithes. Ain’t like they got a gun to your head saying “Run dat ninja…”
They all ask you to pay, but nobody forces you to do it.
“Black men are the most homophobic creatures on the planet (for the most part) them mofos will bring back jim crow laws for they share a locker room with a gay man….”
@Shay-d-lady–this is so funny and so true. Brothers would gladly go to the back of the bus (while singing old negro spirituals) before they share a locker room with John Amici.
@meka,
you know what though, i think the hesitancy for a guy to come out has more to do with the fans and the media than the locker room. like i mentioned before, i’m sure there are gay black male pro athletes, and i’m sure each of them have a teammate or a coach or someone that knows
@meka,
I tend to agree with The Champ… I don’t think if a guy has his boy he has known his entire come out on him, he will just drop him like that. Don’t think so… Will be worried that we (black women) will judge him with that in mind? Yes. Will he have to take precautions to avoid that? Probably… so at the end of the day, I think it’s more of a shared problem than it is a black male problem (like it was so well explained upthread)…
We are still on Kanye’s nuts because he admitted that he thought Rap was homophobic… what does that say about us? *kanyeshrug*
Hmmm… Black first we probably won’t see.
I think we’ll see a black blockbuster (Does “Black Blockbuster” sound like a name for a porno to anyone else?) first. If Will, Denzel, Halle and Morgan ever get together in the right film it could happen. (Just as long as there no Spike Lee floating scenes or 6 ft 5 brothers in drag.)
- Black men as a whole gaining control of our emotions. Collectively we’re messed up between the ears. However, the release of 400 some odd years of emotions would cause the nation to shut down for a few days.
I’m sure I could come up with more but I need some more coffee.
@Wuyoung Agent of M.E, “Black Blockbuster”
that’s got to be out already… it’s just too good of a name. If not, consider this your warning to run and get your copyright filed ASAP!
@Yeah…SO?!, I can’t throw a stick w/o hitting an esquire type, so you warning has been heard!
@Wuyoung Agent of M.E., esquire no, hussleman *slow nod* yassssssss!
@Yeah…SO?!, I get to hear “You should go to law school.” about once a week. Not gonna happen.
@Wuyoung Agent of M.E., wut… it’s only an additional THREE YEARS of your life? – lol… I actually romanticize about going back and studying law, but got-damn-it if that 3-year commitment doesn’t make me wanna curl-up in a corner and rock myself to sleep… not to mention the additional student loan costs- I can’t do it mayne.
@Yeah…SO?!, The thought of paying more student loans makes sad.
@Wuyoung Agent of M.E., *hug*-lol
@Wuyoung Agent of M.E,
However, the release of 400 some odd years of emotions would cause the nation to shut down for a few days
That will be a sight to behold. I predict The Book of Eli: The real version.
@Sula, The Book of Eli was a great movie. It’s not getting the love it deserves. When that emotional release happens we can move forward.
@Wuyoung Agent of M.E.,
I think people are into escapism these days… Reality seems too grim already.
@Sula, Realityit is very grim, but there’s no reason we can’t enjoy ourselves now can we?
Here’s: so others that I would love to see myself.
The First Black Bachelor or Bachelorette: It was mention by a commenter of Racialicious but it rings so true.
The First Black Prime Minister of United Kingdom: If you thought Miss Sonya Sotomayor had a hard time becoming a member of the Supreme Court. Imagine what this person would have to do to get elected.
First Black Supreme Court: My God, 2520s would poop their pampers.
First Black Vice-President USA: I can’t even imagine someone being chosen as a running mate.
The First Black Female President of the USA: Hmm, I would like a movie about this.
The first Black-Own Tech/Car company: The way we keep ourselves up-to-date phones, computers, cars, and social networks. I quite surprise that we have not develop our own OS’s, Vehicles, and designs for fr computers. SMDH
The First black Video game:That has nothing to do with the “hood” or sports. I don’t even play video games but I would like it if black characters were the main characters for big games similar to Halo or Final Fantasy.
@Mr. Gundam,
“The First Black Female President of the USA: Hmm, I would like a movie about this.”
Head of State 2 starring Wanda Sykes?
*snicker*
@miss t-lee,
lol
@Mr. Gundam,
“The First Black Bachelor or Bachelorette: It was mention by a commenter of Racialicious but it rings so true.”
I would like to see this too, but I can’t say I see this happening anytime soon…Hollywood is all about money, and major network ratings would def go down if the bachelor/bachelorette had some melanin (we’re just 12% of the population, so blk ppl can’t carry the ratings of a show by ourselves). Not to mention the stigma of a bunch of 2520s (I love that term) competing for the affections of one of us. I’m not saying it couldn’t happen, but it would have to be a green/blue eyed, straight-haired dude of questionable ethnicity (think Derek Jeter) for it to go over…you couldn’t just go from Idaho farmboy to Allen Iverson…that would be n#gga overload right there…baby steps, baby steps.
Until then, we’ll just have to settle for Ray J, Flav, and NY’s triflin a$$es.
@DG, Uh where have ya’ll been… Flava Flav and Ray J definitely took care of that *checks box next to first black bachelor/bachelorette*
@Yeah…SO?!,
this is true.
@Yeah…SO?!,
They don’t count…one’s Brandy’s lil brother and the other is Weezy’s biological father(look closely…there’s a resemblance). Oh, and they’re on VH1, which rivals BET in the amt. of coonery. This automatically disqualifies both of them from being a certified Bachelor prospect.
@DG, no no no, it counts- plus Champ says it’s true so… *Kanye shrug*
@DG,
Yeah, basic cable arse shows don’t count because they take anyone.
I bet Flav/Ray J or the likes of them wouldn’t have been on ABC though or any other major network. I’m looking for a Black bachelor/bacherette on those types of channels. When will it happen?
@DG,
I don’t Flav/Ray J/New York count.
I’ve noticed on the last couple cycles of the Bachelor/Bachelorette there haven’t been ANY Black folks anywhere.
Early on, they would at least cast one token girl/dude and have them stick around until at least round 2, to make it look good.
Now…they don’t even cast them…lol
*Don’t judge me, I watch this mindless ish when I’m bored…lol
@Yeah…SO?!,
Okay since Flav and Ray J count (and just for good measure, thro in them corny S-curl n#ggas Real & Chance, too), I’ll ask you…would you be interested in any of them mofos outside of a television show?
@DG, “thro in them corny S-curl n#ggas Real & Chance, too” – LMAO (I peed a lil)
Ok for the record- dat isht ain’t s-curl it’s gell, don’t disrespect the s-curl wearin mofos like dat.
To answer your question- do I really need to answer this? seriously? *side eye*
@Yeah…SO?!, Nope, if you notice I NAMED the two shows and cheekie already mention that its on a major network (ABC). By which you notice the lack of any back dating show on either one of the major networks.
@Mr. Gundam, Ok fine- IF we’re talkin major networks or wutever… then… I guess you have a point- hmph… But those shows broke records- RECORDS I TELL YOU!
@Mr. Gundam,
Afro Samurai is a video game, but I get your point.
@Mr. Gundam, First Black Supreme Court: My God, 2520s would poop their pampers.
do you mean like an ENTIRE supreme court full of black justices or do you just not count Thurgood Marshall and/or Clarence Thomas at all?
@Panama Jackson, I mean that black would be the majority. So just think of today’s supreme court in reverse when it comes to race.
@Panama Jackson,
That’s what I was thinking like, “Ain’t Clarence Thomas punka*s in there right now?”
@Mr. Gundam,
Just thought of another reading this list…
A Black Female Pope….
(How’s that for putting it WELL out of reach?)
@Tenchi,
Yeah, that’s like when we live on the sun type out of reach.
We are still trying to get women at all on the altar… or even get priests to marry to no avail.
Actually, let me run that by my momma and document her reaction. It shall be hilarious.
@Mr. Gundam,
Adding: First Black Pope (all Catholics would drink the world’s biggest batch of special Kool-aid!)
@Mr. Gundam With that honor, the first black pope would mix up the first 5,000 gallon tank of special Kool-Aid mixed just right for Catholics to commit mass suicide (end of days).
@Mr. Gundam,
The first Black-Own Tech/Car company: The way we keep ourselves up-to-date phones, computers, cars, and social networks. I quite surprise that we have not develop our own OS’s, Vehicles, and designs for fr computers. SMDH
I think that has a lot of potential of happening… and there are a lot of small firms/tech companies owned by black people.
But I’m with you… I have been talking to some friends of mine about a Tata Motors – African style, “Can handle your rough roads with no customs to pay”… Shoot, you heard it hear first. *off to write a business plan. Lol!*
I didn’t think we would have a black president in my lifetime…I am still amazed. So, on the strength of that alone I would suggest that anything is possible…and there will be many other firsts for black folks in the near and distant future……
When one brave athlete decides to come out first, they all will follow suit..its just a matter of time.
@QueenT,
“I didn’t think we would have a black president in my lifetime…I am still amazed.”
I repeated the sentence “Our president is going to be black.” for about a month just so it could sink in.
@Wuyoung Agent of M.E.,
“I repeated the sentence “Our president is going to be black.” for about a month just so it could sink in.”
Ha! I kept repeating it, too. I did with that “surreal” look on my face….like, “What world IS this?” kinda feeling. It was so strange and incredible at the same time.
Black first we probably won’t see…
1. Blacks not starring in a Popeyes commercial
2.Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson (remember those two?) admitting black + white doesn’t always equal racism.
@Ivyette,
“1. Blacks not starring in a Popeyes commercial”
OMG, great one! Like, I wish Popeyes would be a dayum Irishman as the lead in their commercials talmbout, “Finger linkin’ good canjun style Louisian Kitchen down home cookin’ honey biscuits chicken!! MMM…mmmm…MMMM!”
In the next 40 years we will see openly black gay pro athlete/s & at least 1 blockbuster black movie. Tough to have a universal definition of, Black Movie but in almost every sense we will have it. We will also have openly gay black males in the military which carries the same if not more crushing weight in the psyche of mankind than openly gay pro athletes. The openly gay warrior soldier archetype will happen first & may provide part of the story for the black blockbuster movie and whose actor/s could also be the one/s who go pro after a stint in the military. Say goodbye ,eat sh*t and die, traditions of fear, cultural bigotry & the mysterious indluential hand of the illuminati.
@Triple Crown, Since the “don’t ask don’t tell” debate has come up again I replace “homosexual” with the word “colored” when I hear those who are against it speak. It makes my skin crawl.
@Wuyoung Agent of M.E.,
Yup! I heard a retired general or something or the other, with a heavy Oklahoma-type accent, trying to explain how it would be “hard for the men or women” in the barracks. Say word? *smh*
@Sula, For a group of people who pride themselves on discipline and order I find them funny. I’ve never served but I’ve always been told that discipline is a reflection of leadership (I think Avon Barksdale said that in Remember the Titans too). If they follow orders in the way that they claim to this shouldn’t be a problem. A teacher I had in high school said this once, “When a soldier is told to do something, he says “yes sir!” and does it.” Everything else should fall into line.
@Wuyoung Agent of M.E.,
Exactly. And the reporter (this was on Tuesday’s All Things considered on NPR) asked him something along the lines of, well the policy is “Don’t ask, don’t tell” so that implies there are already gay people in the military, so if it hasn’t disturbed anybody how will knowing disturb it?
I was thisclose to expect him to say something as backwards as “but you can’t trust them guys, they will jump on the other soldiers”… His statements were that simplistically ignorant.
I just don’t understand why as a whole, people are so gung-ho about the gheys. I really have a hard time understanding how it affects them to the point where there are whole movements against it… and someone better NOT bring up religion… *smh*
@Wuyoung Agent of M.E., LOL
I don’t think I’ll ever be able to see anybody from The Wire as anyone but their Wire characters, like when Stringer Bell was Michael Scott’s boss and Beadie was his girl. I’ve also seen Daniels pop up on countless shows and he’ll always be Daniels.
@Sula, Personally, I’m more concerned about what kind of person they are than what kind of person they are sleeping with at night.
@Wuyoung Agent of M.E.,
Exactly! *smh*
@Triple Crown,
We will also have openly gay black males in the military which carries the same if not more crushing weight in the psyche of mankind than openly gay pro athletes.
see, i dont think so. mainly because soldiers don’t rely on fan/media support for their income.
For a black blockbuster to happen, it’s blackness would have to be so diluted, I don’t know that I’d be interested in seeing it anyway.
@Afrodyte,
Roots did happen, though it was a TV mini-series. A black family epic that had Will Smith as the principle lead could do business abroad. Will and Jada starring in Mama Day could do numbers. I said the gay athlete first because I played on a couple of teams with gay players, everyone on the team knew they were gay, and it was not an issue.
@Legendary Dash,
The Pursuit of Happyness was successful… because the theme is more universal than anything else.
I think for Black movies to become potential blockbusters, there has to be a substantial push for marketing in areas with high black populations (and easy access to cinemas)… Think Paris etc…
@Afrodyte,
For a black blockbuster to happen, it’s blackness would have to be so diluted
the closest we’ve come to that so far is probably “the matrix reloaded”. seriously, between the fact that it had more n*ggas in it than “barbershop”, and the whole “fighting the man/illuminati” premise, you can argue that the matrix is the blackest movie series ever
@The Champ,
That or the Nutty Professor…
-I co-sign on never being able to see a video game that doesn’t present the few black characters that are in it, as car thieves and hos.
- When the hell will a black engineer, IT professional get his/her props a.k.a Black Bill Gates or Steve Jobs?? Why the f*ck aren’t there mega-sized billboards of James McLurkin posted throughout Bed-Stuy Brooklyn!? Ninjas wanna act like they’re bad-ass in some stupid, crazy white-boy/Columbine Kid/ shooter game; but they don’t know what ninjas like my dude McLurkin contributed to programming protocols of Swarm Intelligence. Yeah folks, not some stupid iRobot ish with Will “SemiScientology” Smith, but REAL god-damned robot swarms!!
When is the black nerd gonna be put in the spotlight, and be asked to develop major apps etc…? Oh yeah, ‘we’ (not meaning me or most VSB/VSSs) don’t like to read…..
*how you know how to say the word ‘octagon’ n*gga?
Ize can read, suh!!!.*
@GeekChicness, ewwww… you are pissed this morning
@GeekChicness,
I agree with ya. When I was college, me and my roommates kept a poster of a list of black inventors, what they invented and the US Patent numbers because we were all engineering majors and itw as a good motivating factor for us to stay in school. There are a lot of VSBs and VSSs that are doing big things that don’t publicize like it needs, especially for the kids, and we all know, Wu-Tang is for the children.
@GeekChicness,
When is the black nerd gonna be put in the spotlight, and be asked to develop major apps etc…?
Now that would be AWESOME!!! The thing is they are out there, just not celebrated as they should.
I am rooting for someone to become the next (Black) Bill Gates or at the very least (Black) Steve Jobs… Join me in the prayers. Lol!
I decided to briefly come out of lurk mode just to make this post.
I don’t think that we will ever see black students having the HIGHEST scores across the board on standardized tests(ACT, SAT, LSAT, MCAT, GRE,etc) on both the high school and college levels.
We’ve got to find a way to make intelligence cool. Of course, the people on this site are exempt because it’s clear that the IQs on here are off the charts!!!
This is a very cool site. I’ve had lots of laughs while lurking on here.
Peace!!!!!!!!
@Eliblue, well thank you for joining our foray into daily entertainment and intelligence.
vavavavoom.
@Eliblue,
welcome and sh*t
I don’t think we’ll be seeing the first Black Disney prince anytime soon. Damn shame! Finally get a Black Disney princess, but they name her Tiana (might as well have named her Keesha, think: Magic School Bus), she’s a frog most of the movie, and her lover is some racially ambiguous looking dude who Disney assumes is ethnic-enough looking to appease us hued individuals. Can’t get nothing right!
@Anike Love,
“I don’t think we’ll be seeing the first Black Disney prince anytime soon.”
Disney’s insistence on making the couple interracial for The Princess and the Frog makes me wonder if the first Black prince would be with a white princess. Like, would they go there? I read the Princess and the Frog prince was going to be white, but they changed him (is the current one suppoed to be Latino?). Anyhow, it makes me wonder if they’d actually go there…
@Cheekie,
Princess and Frog could’ve been worse…since it was set in NOLA, they could’ve been real authentic and gotten your boy (see above pic) to voice the prince…
Moral of the story: Be thankful for what you got…lol
@Cheekie,
I’ma be nice today, I’m gonna leave Disney alone.
*I lied.
Eff a Disney.
*snicker*
@miss t-lee,
*pout*
Hmph.
@Anike Love,
Finally get a Black Disney princess, but they name her Tiana
Just for knowledge, she was named Maddy at first… While they were testing out the name, the response was lukewarm at best, and hostile at worst. So they renamed her midscript… So it was “us” who decided on the Tiana… which makes sense to me. I want a black princess character, little black girls can identify with. More little black girls will know a Tiana before they know a Maddy… so that made sense to me.
And although I believe they could have made the prince BLACK, I still found the movie entertaining and the message positive. She did NOT wait for the prince to save her… They worked together to find the solution… now that’s a princess I can stand behind!
LOL..Champkins I’d wager a strong 65% of both leagues are switch hitters, just off observations from afar young and of course my trusty infrared super spider sense DL detector …Let me tell ya’ll something the late E.Lynn Harris didn;t pull those stories out the air my friends and truth is always stranger than fiction.
But to answer your question I think they;d rather give up a testicle than give up the “image” of hypermasculine manly men LLS
@OrangeStar616,
“Let me tell ya’ll something the late E.Lynn Harris didn;t pull those stories out the air my friends and truth is always stranger than fiction.”
Yep. I’m sure there are more than a few Basil’s running round chere.
@OrangeStar616,
65 percent? lol, damn. can’t even get a “half”?
@OrangeStar616,
Exhibit A of why this problem might never go away…
To be honest, I don’t put nothing pass my ninjas… I’m pretty sure we’ll live to see all these things happen *shrugs*
@Yeah…SO?!,
I’m pretty sure we’ll live to see all these things happen *shrugs*
what type of turds to you use when you drop them in punchbowls? human? dog? elephant? i’m curious and sh*t
@The Champ, Aww… my bad- looks like you got a little on your teeth, you should do something about that.
I need to gather myself before I can even finish reading this post because looking at that picture just gave me a severe flashback to my first week on FAMU’s campus when I first encountered the giant FAMU flying roaches on the set.
@klysha,
I never encountered those roaches.
@Legendary Dash,
You don’t want to. Ugh…
Trust and believe.
@Legendary Dash, I didn’t see them much after my freshman year but that first week was traumatic enough…I’m from Alabama so I’m no stranger to large flying insects…but I don’t think any of our roaches were as large or as fearless as the flying roaches I saw my first week at FAMU in fall of 1995.
@klysha,
Yeah, the whole state of FL got winged insects the size of helicopters…a mosquito bite can cause some serious hemorrhaging…
BTW, shout out to the Freshman Class of ’95…
@Legendary Dash,
“I never encountered those roaches.”
(see above post pic)
@Legendary Dash, “I never encountered those roaches.”
Maybe you were just that used to them. (smile, it’s Friday):)
@klysha,
did they have gold teeth too?
@The Champ, Probably…I’m sure if I got close enough I’d see them shining….this was Florida afterall….home of Trick Daddy and T-payne
How about the first horror movie where it’s the black chick who is the sole survivor (and doesn’t fall running from the villian)?
Probably won’t see the 1st black PR rep for PETA complaining about the mass slaughter of innocent chickens for use in commerical food products (I’m jus sayin’).
@Caballeroso,
Probably won’t see the 1st black PR rep for PETA complaining about the mass slaughter of innocent chickens for use in commerical food products (I’m jus sayin’).
Real talk, frat. I will be a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooonggg time before that happens.
@ComicBookGuy,
Probably won’t see the 1st black PR rep for PETA complaining about the mass slaughter of innocent chickens for use in commerical food products (I’m jus sayin’).
Real talk, frat. I will be a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooonggg time before that happens.
i agree. as much as sistas love fur, we’ll since another “firm” album before we see that
don’t you mean belly 3? there is already a belly 2. lol
@Tunde,
you lie!!!
@The Champ, It’s true. The Game is in it though and it was beyond terrible.
Let’s see…..
A black director winning a Best Director Oscar
Better yet, a black director with black leading actors in a film winning Best Director at the Oscars
Wait wait, I got it……. a black director with black leading actors in a film that does not demean or embarrass black people winning an Oscar for Best Director
With all the drama surrounding Tim Tebow and the draft and how people say he plays like a “black quarterback”…….
A black coach winning the Super Bowl with a black quarterback.
I think the black blockbuster film will happen first, but the real question is, will a black person direct it?
@ComicBookGuy, “a black director with black leading actors in a film that does not demean or embarrass black people winning an Oscar”
I stand corrected, this isht ain’t ever gon happen
@ComicBookGuy, You know “Precious” had a black director and cast(well most of the beeshes were mulatto, but let it ride) right? We gettin close… I retract my last statement.
@Yeah…SO?!,
Yeah, I just peeped that when you mentioned Lee Daniels. We’ll see how it goes.
Yeah…SO?!,
“You know “Precious” had a black director and cast(well most of the beeshes were mulatto, but let it ride) right? We gettin close… I retract my last statement.”
I didn’t see the film yet, but wasn’t there some huge controversy about it being demeaning to Black folks. Always showing us as downtrodden? If any Black film was going to get attention — call me cynical — but I’m not surprised this film got as much as it did. Us ‘Po ‘Po Black folks…
@ComicBookGuy,
“Yeah, I just peeped that when you mentioned Lee Daniels. We’ll see how it goes.”
Whatsherface that directed “The Hurt Locker” probably got that in the bag. One, because she is the ex-wife of James Cameron (legacy type sh*t), and two because she will be the first female director to win it, and three, she already got the Golden Globe for it. She’s the frontrunner. That would be one hell of an (awesome) upset.
@Cheekie, Well Cheek, honestly I didn’t see it either- ahem *cough* but he black, 2520 people like it, we gettin awards and isht *Kanye shrug*… I mean we opening doors am I right? i.e. bright-side
@Yeah…SO?! ,
Yeah, you’re ultimately right. We may not like the ways the doors are being opened, but I AM glad they’re being opened. Sometimes we gotta deal with folks like Tyler Perry to get a name for ourselves. lol
@ComicBookGuy, How in the hell does one play like a “black quaterback”?
@La Bakir,
Ok?!?!?
Someone needs their azz kicked.
@La Bakir,
Make one read, then run. Allegedly.
@La Bakir,
Pretty much, a black quarterback is more known for running the ball like a running back as much as he passes, a la Michael Vick Vince Young and Randall Cunningham. Tim Tebow will probably go down as probably the best college football player ever and has the SEC conference record for rushing touchdowns…..as a quarterback. Most black quarterbacks aren’t considered pocket passers, guys that sit back and just throw the ball. They usually make plays with their feet and run if things don’t pan out to where they can throw the ball. Critics also feel like that they run because they don’t have the proper “mechanics” to throw a football and they say the same thing about Tim Tebow. All that is bullsh*t to me because it is all about Ws to be me. Critics feel like a quarterback that runs as much as he passes won’t win a Super Bowl, which I feel like is a jab at black quarterbacks that aren’t pocket passers, which I also think is bullsh*t.
Sorry for that long response. That sh*t gets me hot.
@ComicBookGuy, Thanks for the response….I totally understand now. I knew it wasn’t a good thing to play like a black quarterback.
SB: how was the dentist yesterday?
@La Bakir,
Everything went well, my dear. Thanks for asking. I can actually chew food on that side of my mouth now without any pain. The only thing that sucks is having cheap ass dental insurance. Kids, take care of your teeth because a good job may come with horrible insurance.
@ComicBookGuy, That’s good. Yeah, I’m thankful for my dental insurance…and well that I don’t have many problems with my “teef”.
Glad you can chew son…we don’t need any accidental eating disorders.
@La Bakir,
Usually involves running/scrambling to elude pressure…a non-pocket passer, if you will…ex: Mike Vick, Vince Young
Strangely enough, playing like a black quarterback usually keeps your quarterback healthy and injury-free…plus, a lot of 2520 quarterbacks play like this as well
@DG,
“plus, a lot of 2520 quarterbacks play like this as well”
Exactly…which is why that Black QB line sounds dumb as heyll to me.
@miss t-lee,
I totally agree. I saw it in an article online. Tripped me out.
@ComicBookGuy,
“A black director winning a Best Director Oscar”
This speaks to my heart. I would CLOWN should that happen. I mean, I know we’re being recognized in acting, but there are so many of us who try to represent behing the scenes. And, furthermore, it is my goal and dream to become the first Black woman winning for screenplay.
@Cheekie,
Kick the door down on them.
@Cheekie, Good for you Cheek… You can definitely do it- Just don’t put anymore black men in dresses for me ok? Thanks!
@Yeah…SO?!,
Girl, you ain’t gotta worry about none of that bullsh*t. In fact, I’m making a note to make my characters Black but just telling a good story, aside from race. Black folks do regular ish too. Don’t always gotta be about racial struggle (which, I do love movies that bring this to the forefront, it’s just that I don’t think the more subtle aspects have been portrayed well yet) and cookouts. I see so many White leads in movies that could’ve easily been played by a Black actor…and it wouldn’t have made a lick of difference. I wrote an argument against Black leads not being “mainstream” enough at my blog (that I’m now treating like a stepchild…my sis and I need to get on that. lol)
@Cheekie, Hold-up! There’s more to black folks than struggle and cookouts? o_O
But seriously, I couldn’t agree more… you would think more black writers, producers and directors would get this
Shout out to Lee Daniels- which reminds me *exits to find ComicBookGuy*
@Yeah..SO?!,
Ummmm, here I am. What you looking for me for?
@ComicBookGuy, Check your responses boo…
*side note* I’m likin dat sideboob on you- lol
@Yeah…SO?!,
Why thank you, my dear. Yours is looking lovely as well. And with that, I leave you with this…
“Just don’t forget our deal, Lois. I sit through this and later tonight I get anal. You hear me? No matter how neat I want the house you have to clean it.”
-Peter Lowenbrau Griffin.
@CosmicBookGuy, :-O… deal-lol
@Yeah…SO?!,
@ComicBookGuy, …. a black director with black leading actors in a film that does not demean or embarrass black people winning an Oscar for Best Director.
I believe this will be made law by 2013: the Oscar nomination board will implement an “Anti-Precious-Madea-Monster’s Ball-Any Movie w/ the Word ‘Mama’ in its Title” clause in their requirements for black film nominees. Perhaps this will solve the dilemma?
@GeekChicness,
I really hope it does.
@ComicBookGuy,
I think the black blockbuster film will happen first, but the real question is, will a black person direct it?
unless fuqua reincarnates denzel to make “training day 2: the other side of the game”, probably not
@The Champ,
Yeah, it makes me wonder, even though the Oscars pissed on “The Color Purple”, would it have even gotten that far if Hollyweird’s darling Steven Spielberg hadn’t directed it?
I think we’ll never see:
1. a black coach in the NHL
2. An all black prime time drama that lasts more than a season on one of the big three networks ABC, CBS, or NBC
@Mr. Kay,
The Black NHL coach has happened already.
@Legendary Dash, I’m talking about an NHL head coach. Right now there is only a goalie coach for the Coyotes
@Mr. Kay, Dirk Graham was head coach for awhile back in the 90s for The Blackhawks.
@Legendary Dash, that’s what’s up, I didn’t know that. Thanks!
My vote is for the openly gay black male athlete….I expect that within the next 5 years or so. The fact that black athletes participate in the congratulatory butt smack….one of the most widely accepted homoerotic acts I can think of … lets me know that acceptance of a homosexual teammate can’t be too far behind. Now I’m not sure how an openly gay teammate would change the dynamic of the congratulatory butt smack…..might mark the end of the practice….
@klysha,
The fact that black athletes participate in the congratulatory butt smack….one of the most widely accepted homoerotic acts I can think of … lets me know that acceptance of a homosexual teammate can’t be too far behind.
i think the leaping chest bump is a tad gayer, but thats just me
@The Champ, good point…might be a tie
@The Champ,
lmfao @ “LEAPING chest bump”. That particular choice of word cracked me up for a good half a minute.
I think the fact that Hollywood has through the years quashed any and all movies showing a black man actually beating white people (Toussaint, Nat Turner, etc) makes it safe to say that there will not be a black-buster (that sounds so BET-ish) anytime soon…
And we’ll probably see the openly gay athlete after the gay rapper is outed.
@Maximillian,
I forgot all about the infamous gay rapper.
@miss t-lee, I didn’t LOL
the percentages are even higher in the hip hop community/hollywierd
@OrangeStar616,
I guess I kinda forgot since there was supposedly a book coming out, or heyll maybe it was released and I missed it. LOL
Did you ever see that one documentary talking about all the homoerotic images in hip-hop?
@miss t-lee, didn’t see that but these days the whole culture of hip hop as ironic as it seems, caters to the facade, and the imposters run rampant in the industry baby, it provides cover, community, image etc LLS…….something like a perfect alibi for the naive and unsuspecting!!!
also, are their any other black “firsts” we probably won’t see anytime soon?
1) A black man dominating Formula 1, NASCAR, or any other professional racing.
2) A black man or woman that doesn’t have to neuter their “blackness” to be accepted in politics on a national and international level.
3) Commercials featuring Black folks without “funky soul” music in the background.
4) A black neighborhood where blacks own the gas station, liquour store, beauty supply shop, urban apparel store, and fish and wings spot.
5) A Black drama where all the 2520s are the bad guys and it’s not a blaxploitation movie.
6) A legitimate program line-up on BET and TVOne that has dramas, comedies, news, and action/suspense shows.
@Humble_One aka The Market, Lewis Hamilton already dominates Formula One. A black man also dominates motorcross.
TVOne is getting there on the programming tip. “That Girl” is not great by any means, but it amuses.
If BET’s run with the game is successful, I could see them expanding their original programming line-up. Reggie Hudlin was trying to get his run on The Black Panther turned into a TV movie and show on BET.
@Legendary Dash,
A black man also dominates motorcross.
Yeah, Bubba Stewart has a full trophy case at the crib. Boy is a beast.
@Humble_One aka The Market,
I thought I remembered reading something about a Brother in nascar in the 80′s or maybe 90′s…I can’t remember for certain though.
He wasn’t dominating though, so I get your point.
@Humble_One aka The Market,
@Legendary Dash and Comicbook Guy
I am aware of both of those guys. But I was thinking more along the lines of the public face of those sports. When you think F1 you can only name a handful of brothers. Same with motorcross.
@Humble_One aka The Market, Lewis and Bubba are the faces of their sports. After Shumacher’s failed retirement Lewis took over the top spot on the best team in the world, and was pushed hard by them. Bubba was marketed as the Tiger of his sport. I don’t even follow motorcross and I knew about him before he made his debut.
@Legendary Dash,
I don’t keep up with motorcross like that but I don’t see Bubba’s name like I’ve see Ricky Carmichael or Jeremy Mcgrath. Off the top of my head I remember Bubba in one ommercial. Lewis Hamilton I agree with. Formula One is probably the most diverse of all the racing leagues. I guess a better “first” would be Indy, Grand-Am, and NASCAR.
@Humble_One aka The Market, 1. isn’t there already a black man dominating formula 1? well, not sure if he’s “dominating” cuz i don’t keep up with formula 1, but he’s definitely up in there.
3. those “soulful” mcdonalds commercials irk the hell outta me. do you really have to sing about big macs and coffee dranks?
6. eh….i do give tv1 props for airing a different world reruns though
“belly 2: sincere in africa”
I can’t…I just can’t. *dying*
“do you think we’ll see an openly gay black male professional athlete or a black blockbuster in our lifetimes? if so, which do you think would happen first? ”
I always wonder how an openly gay Black male professional athlete would be handled in the media. And by the team. Got a glimpse of this hypothetical situation on “The Game” and I wonder if that’s really close to reality. And I also wonder why a Black Blockbuster wouldn’t translate well overseas…I mean, there are Black folks over there, right? If I had to guess though, I’d say the Black blockbuster would happen first.
“also, are their any other black “firsts” we probably won’t see anytime soon?”
1. The first official VSB BBQ.
@Cheekie,
“The first official VSB BBQ”
They already had the BBQ. The only way to get invited was to comply with Champ’s request to _____________ deez.
@Humble_One aka The Market,
Yeah, so I heard. I still believe it is an urban legend.
@Cheekie,
I still believe it is an urban legend.
the bbq or the giant deez?
@The Champ,
The bbq. And I don’t think you filled in the blank with the right word. Type “giant” in the thesaurus and look in the antonyms section.
Okay, this post made me want to see the first Black blockbuster about the first openly gay male athlete. And the Oscars would eat that ish up.
@Cheekie,
While u bullsh#tin…I think a story like that would get alot of attention from the Academy folks…
Ur a screenwriter…you should work on that…
@DG,
“While u bullsh#tin…I think a story like that would get alot of attention from the Academy folks…”
lol
I’m not though. I’m so sincere. They seriously WOULD eat that ish up. And add a White Knight to the mix (maybe a white coach who inspires everyone to accept him) would be Oscar platinum.
Should I write it though, there would be no White Knight because that ish irks me to NO end.
@Cheekie, “No Oscar for you” without White Knight… that’s the game- lol
@Yeah…SO?!,
lol…yeah, it’s the cold cruel world. Maybe if I write it I’ll have a chance when there’s another one of those fad like “indie movies are worthy to watch, by golly!” or “biopic about dead muscian who redeems himself from drugs!”.
@Cheekie, or throw some bollywood dancing in there- that’s a sure win… I’d watch it
@Cheekie,
A movie with no White Knight is like a sandwich w/out the Miracle *(h)Whip….
*emphasis on the (h)
@DG,
“emphasis on the (h)”
This just made me LOL for real.
@DG,
“Miracle *(h)Whip….
*emphasis on the (h)”
I really hope that was a Family Guy reference because as per my comment on here recently, that turns me on (when it shouldn’t).
…
You’re a dude, right? lol
@Cheekie,
Indeed it was…although I suppose Cool (h) Whip would’ve been more accurate…please forgive
Oh, and indeed I am…giggity (lol)
@DG,
Yup, Cool (h)Whip, but I liked your play on the reference.
I imagine you did the *Quagmire pelvic thrust* after that giggity? lol
@Cheekie,
who would play the actor?
@The Champ,
Ain’t no actor in the movie, Champers.
Or you mean who would BE the actor? lol, I’m messin’ with ya.
Answer: Will Smith. If it’s basketball or something, though. Or he can guarantee the Oscar win by gaining a bunch of weight for a football movie. Can ya’ll imagine Will with a defense-type FB body?
I could’ve sworn Avatar was a Black movie. Pandora or whatever the planet was was suose to be Africa, right?
@Monk,
That movie had white guilt for imperialism written all over it.
@ComicBookGuy,
And I ate it up with a spoon!
@Monk, pffffft….don’t even get me started on that movie. Had me wanting to get a soap box screaming “the revolution won’t be televised” with a “final call” newspaper in my left hand and a 45 in my right.
@Monk,
Supposedly, “Avatar” was James Cameron’s “Pocahontas”.
@Monk, uh wut are ya’ll talmbout… Avatar is clearly a remake of Dances with Wolves in spaces- *side eye*
Black woman as president
Black movie where the 2520 who swoops in to save the day is rejected and told to take is pale arse back where he came from (think Avatar)
Nikki Minaj’s real arse
@La Bakir,
Black movie where the 2520 who swoops in to save the day is rejected and told to take is pale arse back where he came from (think Avatar)
That’s kinda what the Black Panther movie should be like. Like “Hey, man. Tow yo ass back to where you came from. We eatin over here.”
@ComicBookGuy, LOL…my dad could star in that film. then he can use his fav term “cracka ass cracka”
@La Bakir,
I have borrowed your dad’s phrase, sprinkle it liberally throughout conversation. Makes me smile ruefully:)
@EbonyI,
That’s awesome. It’s apart of his daily vocab. He’s a corrections officer and he constantly tells me about the cracka ass crackas he works with and when the revolution goes down (inmates vs. guards)…little do they know he’s riding w/ the inmates..lol
@La Bakir,
Black movie where the 2520 who swoops in to save the day is rejected and told to take is pale arse back where he came from (think Avatar)
this reminds me of that scene in “x” where the white college girl asks malcolm if there’s anything she can do for the cause, and he says no and walks away. they should have made a sequel with just her going up to random black people/orgs. and asking if they needed help, and getting rejected in different ways each time.
@The Champ, this made me gaffaw! Thanks!
@The Champ, LMAO…Malcolm was so gangster!
@The Champ,
“this reminds me of that scene in “x” where the white college girl asks malcolm if there’s anything she can do for the cause, and he says no and walks away. they should have made a sequel with just her going up to random black people/orgs. and asking if they needed help, and getting rejected in different ways each time.”
I would buy this movie in both DVD and Blu-ray and I don’t have a player for the latter, but it sounds so incredibly great. And the commentary for that mofo would be golden.
@The Champ,
As much as I loved Pacino in Scent of a Woman, Denzel got robbed that year at the Oscars.
@ComicBookGuy, Yessir…and then they give him one for “Training Day” smh…man, Denzel had me actually thinking Malcolm was a chocolate brother. His imitation of Malcolm’s voice was SICK. The way he personified his looks….
sorry…I absolutely adore Malcolm X
@La Bakir,
I have definitely peeped that. That movie right there made him my favorite actor period.
@ComicBookGuy, Yeah man…Denzel was the man in the film. Thumbs up to Spike too.
@ComicBookGuy,
Word to the tenth power. It is by far my favorite performance of his. And word to La Bakir, he straight up BECAME Malcolm X. It was so creepy. I remember hearing a recording of Malcolm X speaking on the radio a few years ago and thought it was a clip from the movie.
I think a black blockbuster movie is possible, but it would have to be something that a diverse # of ppl could relate to (i.e., not just us), or have some hellafied cinematography. I dare say, the movie would have to star a lot of us, but not necessarily cater to us…if that makes any sense.
A few of my relatives and I have always discussed movies and what movies have been successful. One thought that we threw around was a remake of Shaka Zulu. For those of us old enough to remember, this story was made into a tv miniseries (a la’ Roots) back in the late 80′s. Imagine it being updated into a Braveheart/300/Gladiator type movie. Would require the right director, and some clever marketing, but I think it could do well. I hope I haven’t said too much in case there are any potential screenwriters/directors/producers on here (in that case, I want some gotd#mn royalties for this).
@DG,
One thought that we threw around was a remake of Shaka Zulu. For those of us old enough to remember, this story was made into a tv miniseries (a la’ Roots) back in the late 80’s. Imagine it being updated into a Braveheart/300/Gladiator type movie
thats the thing though. all of those movies involved either white people fighting other whites, or white people fighting coloreds. i dont know how well a flick with a bunch of mandingos spearing the sh*t out of white people from 120 minutes would do
@The Champ,
That would kick so much ass. I loved that mini-series as a kid. Shaka was bad ass.
@ComicBookGuy,
Hells yeah…I remember my brother’s throwing sticks in the back yard like they were Shaka throwing spears…hilarious.
@miss t-lee,
I think every little black boy who saw that mini-series as a kid did that because I know I did.
@ComicBookGuy,
Yes it would…
As a fellow comic book fan, I kinda expected that you would appreciate it.
BTW, there has been mention of a Luke Cage/Iron Fist movie being done. With all the success of comic-based movies lately (hell, Disney owns Marvel now), no telling what movies will be coming down the pipeline.
@DG,
I like how both characters are being written in the comics nowadays. They aren’t bit characters anymore. When Luke Cage got props from Captain America about his leadership qualities, a brother almost shed a tear. He has been in the forefront for Marvel the past 5 years. Disney is going to make some things happen movie-wise for Marvel.
@DG, Cage has been getting a ton of page time since Alias. He and Mrs. Cage need their on book. As for the Luke Cage/Iron Fist movie, I’d watch that. A huge super powered brother with a white super powered wife trying to raise their little girl with the help of his Kung Fu Billionare best friend… what’s not to like.
@DG,
What would be even funnier is if add that Iron Fist has a black fiancee’, Misty Knight.
@ComicBookGuy,
I actually re-watched it recently… Yeah, Shaka was a bad-ass mothertrucker… And the sorcerer hairline’s? Priceless!
@The Champ,
That’s why it would require clever marketing…you can’t just come out and have a bunch of Zulus getting tribal on 2520s in the previews…naw, man…you gotta ease them into that mess…although after Braveheart and 300, I think cinematic slaughtering is less of a concern than it was years ago. Besides, if the movie were kept somewhat authentic and true to history…a lot of the violence in such a movie would be more tribe against tribe.
@DG,
Love it! *singing Skaka Zulu theme…..zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom-zoom, zoom-zoom, zoom……..*
@legitimate_soul,
Oops! Shaka Zulu
Oh, another one:
First Black movie that Jenifer Lewis is NOT in.
@Cheekie, does anyone know how old that woman is?
@La Bakir,
Hell, I doubt she’s human.
@Cheekie, Same ish I was thinking.
@La Bakir,
Y’all are hilarious.
Thank you
and would you like peppers or ginger to your salted ahem ‘deez’
@michaboa,
whipped cream
@The Champ,
Foolish.
A black governor in the South. Sorry, aint gonna happen.
@The Smoking Ace, i guess you’re one of those folks who doesn’t count Virginia as the South either, huh?
@Panama Jackson,
Yup. Douglas Wilder did that.
@The Smoking Ace,
welcome and sh*t
@The Champ, Okay, let me reposition that.
A black man that is governor of Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Tennessee, and Texas.
A BLACK 1ST:
The ONE & ONLY
2000 – 2010 MindBoggling DESIGN…
Have a Great Weekend GOOD PEOPLE!
@CIRESLADY1,
i’m confused?
(and yea, that question mark there isnt a typo)
@The Champ,
and so am I?
@Sula,
same here?
You’re killing me softly with the IMAX screens and Belly 2…co-workers looking at me like I’m deranged. I literally LOL’d.
@NIC,
You’re killing me softly with the IMAX screens and Belly 2…co-workers looking at me like I’m deranged
this is why apple invented the ipad.
Don’t ever say never. A lot of folks thought a black president would never be seen in their lifetime of that you could never get thugs to the polls. It can happen.
@legitimate_soul,
by “thugs to the polls” you mean “internet thugs to the polls on blackgirl online” right?
I don’t know…maybe it’s this headache that I’ve had since 3am or maybe it’s lack of sleep because of said headache. But I’m really trying to understand similarity between black male homophobia and black women being careful with whom they’re intimate for health reasons.
I’m quite liberal. My oldest friend is gay and has been gay since 1st grade. I have no problem with that. I do, however, have a problem with the dude who’s having same s*x s*x (notice that I didn’t say homosexual sex) while also sleeping with women who are unaware.
Some women will accept honesty about the situation. My cousin dated a guy, a police officer in Atlanta, who would go to a park and get head from gay men. She knew about it and protected herself. They were together for several years.
Sorry if this is incoherent. Ima blame on the meds.
@meka,
“My cousin dated a guy, a police officer in Atlanta, who would go to a park and get head from gay men. She knew about it and protected herself. They were together for several years.”
On the real? Wow.
You cousin is a much better woman than I will ever be.
@meka,
But I’m really trying to understand similarity between black male homophobia and black women being careful with whom they’re intimate for health reasons.
where do you think black male homophobia stems from?
not saying its all women’s fault, but many black males grow up thinking that having a hyperheterosexualized image is the only way you’re going to be able to attract black women, and homophobia is a by-product of that pressure. this is part of the reason why black men die from hypertension at 47; years of keeping up an ultra-masculine facade and keeping everything (emotions, feelings, etc) inside of you.
and, while your cousin’s case is an unfortunate one, its the exception rather than the rule. black women (not black men) have created the idea of this black gay boogieman going around stabbing cities full of innocent sistas with hiv and sh*t infected d*cks. if thats not homophobia, i dont know what is
Looks like this film has some potential
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfRPyvSywdo&feature=player_embedded
Champ, Ima have to respectfully but wholeheartedly disagree with your response especially that black women drive black male homophobia. Think about it. When little boys hurt themselves, women jump up and “baby” them. It’s daddy, uncle, male figure who says “Boy stop being a sissy and stop all that crying!” THAT my friend, is the source of black male homophobia. Oh, and don’t let a little boy want to play with dolls! All hell will break loose.
Again, I don’t understand how a woman protecting her health is considered homophobia. (I’m not talking about truly homophobic black women.)
Well according to foxsports.com carey davis makes $375K. So I was a little off LOL…. but still not that much money for a pro-athlete. Especially considering rothlisberger makes 27 million!!
@BKSweetheart, sorry for the double post click the wrong “reply” damn these fancy ass thingy majigger so called “blog” sites lol
…and furthermore, if you think about it “Boy stop being a sissy” is reinforced at every step of a black man’s life. It’s part of team sports. It’s part of home life if there’s a straight male figure around. It’s part of church.
@meka, I agree w/ everything you’ve been saying in regards to this topic. My ex would often say things like “men don’t giggle. men aren’t supposed to ticklish” and be dead ass serious. He’s scared of horses b/c his father pressured him into riding one when he was little and didn’t want to. He’s is a “man’s man” and is a lil screwed up as a result of his father’s influence. He’s gotten a little better though in reference to gay men b/c his uncle is gay.
@meka,
“if you think about it “Boy stop being a sissy” is reinforced at every step of a black man’s life. It’s part of team sports. It’s part of home life if there’s a straight male figure around. It’s part of church.”
True, and a lot of sistas say this to their sons….they don’t always hear it from men…
Now for an actual response to the question… No I don’t think we will ever have a “black” movie ever reach Avatar status… I believe in one of your (yes you Champ) posts a month or so ago referencing the movie Precious, you said something along the lines where 2520s only want to see movies where blacks are poor or abused or exacerbating already existing black stereotypes i.e. Training Day (king kong aint got sh*t on me!!), Monsters Ball, Antoine Fisher, etc. If its a black movie, it better tug at a motherf*cker’s heartstrings so that the good liberal 2520 folk can all feel sorry for poor little blackie and feel vindicated in their continual struggle to prove that they are not really racists.
Oh yeah, and an openly gay NFL/NBA player… sh*t aint happening unless dude has a death wish. You know those backwater middle america bible belt psychos aint supporting “no damn faggotry!!” lol.
and the first black roach to simultaneously impregnate two mulatto sex symbols
and kobe bryant remains a bitch, we’ll see sarah palin on the cover of black tail before we see an openly gay black male pro athlete
High Five goes to The Champ, this literally made me laugh out loud
I think the first openly gay Black athlete will happen first and it’s only a matter of time but it’s very possible that a Black Blockbuster film could happen within the next couple of years since DreamGirls came close (didn’t it? …sort of?).
@DG-Yes, I’ve heard some women say those things to their sons. But in my experience, black men are more likely to perpetuate the negative aspects of being a “real man.”
I don’t know. Maybe it’s a Kentucky thing.
My daughter likes to say that I’m going to “make” my oldest nephew gay because I shower him with affection. So I understand your point.
@Wuyoung Agent of M.E. & Sula–
The nicest guy in the world won’t negate my desire to protect my health.
Obviously, honesty is the best policy. In my opinion, homophobia prevents men, mostly, of all stripes from being honest about who they are and what they enjoy. As I mentioned above, my cousin’s significant other was honest about his sex addiction and she accepted that and protected herself.
My freaking blackberry won’t let me reply directly to a comment. Sorry.
a black man with a show on FOX that’s a hit like glen beck or sean hannity.
Champ, can you do me a solid and take Lil’ Wayne’s picture off here? It’s givin’ me the creeps. I mean, why he gotta look at me like that?
@Cheekie,
I imagine you walkin’ by your PC screen and Weezy’s eyes start following you…kinda like an old portrait in a Scooby-Doo cartoon.
Y’know he’s a goblin…he can do stuff like that.
@ldubbs–
My flaming gay black Republican coworker aspires to have his own show on Fox. So you might see that sooner rather than later.
@meka,
Please let this happen. Please God. Please.
@meka,
gay, black, and republican… i’m just bedeviled by such a combination… not that anything is wrong with being a republican, but i mean, really now.
@ldubbs and Cheekie–the Fox folks might frown on the gay thing but would quickly embrace his anti-gay rights stance on everything. Oh, and he’s a bit anti-white so that might cancel out the anti-gayness.
@meka,
woah now… and he’s anti-white?!??! just a complete mind explosion… that dude will never get a show on fox… eeeevvvrrr…
@meka,
Wow, that would quite the interesting media blitz should he get a job on Fox. But like you said, unlikely…
@sula..yes a guys boy all his life will drop him if he comes out of the closet..
it happens all the time..
Wow @ the pic, he does resemble a roach of some sort.
The End
Quite confused.
If a blockbuster starring black people doesn’t constitute a black blockbuster, what does?
How then are other blockbusters white, if starring a particular race is not the defining criteria?
We will definitely see an openly gay black professional athlete before we see a major blockbuster movie. Unfortunately, mainstreet, the heartland of America, does not support our movies the way we support their movies. Even if we put out a great family dramedy, it will never pull the big numbers.
a black head of state in the uk… europe even
never will happen..
living here and knowing it sucks for this…
(septimus severus – a libyan ceasar – only counts if you want to take it that far back… )
Firsts we might never see? A BLACK triathlete.
Ever heard of the Ironman? If you don’t have white friends, then you probably haven’t. But you’re ‘very smart brothas’ so you’re probably familiar with this phenom.
I’m a triathlete. I’m black/light brown.
I rarely see any of us at my races. I’m tryna to be the first to shatter my ‘firsts we might never see’.
not sure when it will happen. but ise gonna try
-angel
LMAO @ “roach”….then I continue to read only to see a reference to Sarah Palin on Black Tail..LOL
My Black First:
Hugh Hefner with 3 black girlfriends?